The 50 most developed countries in the world and Universal Healthcare.

[buckeye45_73]

“Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens?”

Because conservatives have successfully propagated the lie that in addition to being ‘too expensive,’ providing all Americans access to affordable healthcare will ‘destroy capitalism’ and make America ‘socialist’ – when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.

Commies gotta commie....let me know when you come out with the Ferrari 4 all program

 

[danielpalos]

So in America, you don't want women to be free to decide for themselves what to do. You should think of moving to a Muslim country.

the decision should be made before they have unprotected sex. I have lived and worked in muslims countries, I have no interest in ever going to one again for any reason.

So you think that people should live how you tell them to.

NO, I think that every human being has the right to life and freedom. That includes human beings in the womb. I am ok with the morning after pill, condoms, BC pills, diaphrams, contraceptive foam, and every other form of birth control, but once that heart starts beating, its a human being and killing it is murder.

If its ok to kill an unborn up to the moment of birth, why not extend that to 2 years of age if the kid becomes a problem or inconvenience? What magically changes at the instant of birth that its ok to kill one moment and not the next?

A fetus vs a live being. So much for you having a science degree.

"A fetus isn't alive! That's SCIENCE . . . because I'm sure it is!"

why should we believe the right wing cares more about natural rights in abortion threads than on the border?

 

[Cecilie1200]

I love tacos, but my heritage is English, Irish, and German.
but that's not really any of your business, is it?

Hey, if wetbacks can come to this country illegally, I can make fun of them and their ignorance of soap.

I have no problem with that, and I feel free to make fun of ignorant liberals and their lack of knowledge about economics, race relations, immigration, taxes, slavery, and just about everything else. their new liberal/socialist spokeswoman AOC is a constant source of jokes with her idiotic comments.

I'm a Libertarian, not a Dem. Please try again.

you seem clueless and Causeless; not enough fiber in your diet?

I’m a vegetarian, now go take a bath, and spread the word among beaners.

Congratulations. I was able to tolerate your IQ measured in negative numbers, but your racism has finally motivated me to relegate you to the ground underneath the garbage dumpster where you have so manifestly belonged for so long.

Goodbye, and good riddance.

FLUSH!

 

[Cecilie1200]

I have no problem with that, and I feel free to make fun of ignorant liberals and their lack of knowledge about economics, race relations, immigration, taxes, slavery, and just about everything else. their new liberal/socialist spokeswoman AOC is a constant source of jokes with her idiotic comments.

I'm a Libertarian, not a Dem. Please try again.

most libertarians do not condone murder of innocents. Rand Paul and his father Ron both are anti abortion. but as I said earlier, you are free to believe whatever you want------------------until the liberal thought police take full control. Orwell and Rand saw it coming and wrote books about it.

Books of fiction, like the bible.

your opinion, and you have the right to express it. Yes, Rand and Orwell wrote fiction, but their fiction has proven true. As to the
Bible, again your opinion, most americans disagree.

what I find interesting, is that all of you non believers are always to angry and intolerant of any beliefs that differ from yours, Could that be because deep down inside you aren't that sure what you believe? and are trying to convince yourself?

But you never responded to my idea about a national referendum on abortion, why not let all americans vote on it? or even state by state? Why do you want to dictate your OPINIONS on others? I thought libertarians were about freedom for all.

I find the atheists to be a lot more tolerant than the so-called fundamentalist Christians. They want to decide who the sinners are and aren't, and they want to be able to discriminate, and they want the laws of the land to back them up in their ability to treat others badly. That's intolerance with balls!

I just heard, "I think agreeing with me equals tolerance!"

I find atheists to largely be a bunch of smug, self-satisfied hypocrites who are only "tolerant" and "non-judgemental" of themselves . . . as witness YOUR post in admiration of them.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Discrimination is a basic human right. It's what normal people call "freedom of choice."

So it’s ok not to serve blacks in a restaurant? Gawd, you’re stoopid.

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

Lying isn't just a violation of man's laws. It's one of the 10 Commandments. Under Biblical law, violation of any of othe 10 Commandments was punishable by death. It's noteable that you opporse abortion and homosexuality, neither of which God mentioned in the Big 10 of sins, but you think it's OK for politicians to lie to the public in an election campaign, even though though that's illegal under both secular law and Biblical law.

But of course Trump lies, and lies , and lies, so of course you're good with it.

Ahhh, yes. The ever-popular "But TTTRUUUUUMMMMPPPP!!! I don't care what the topic is, I MUST TALK ABOUT TRRRRRRRUUUUMMMMPPPP!!!!" argument.

Sounds like a surrender to ME.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

If you have a right to discriminate, then not allowing blacks into your restaurant would be a basic right. It's not.

You think just like a whiny hater.

If a restaurant owners only wants to serve left handed gay Asians, that should be his right.

False. If he only wants to serve a certain clientele, he can open a private club, and solicit members from among his preferred clientele.

If he wants a license to serve the public, he has to abide by the non-discrimation laws that govern that license, and serve the public.

Gosh, I love having the First Amendment and its meaning and its proper application explained to me by a brain-damaged foreigner who doesn't live under the Constitution and has absolutely no heritage with it or stake in it. There actually are not words to express my opinion of the Constitutional "wisdom" and "expertise" here.

No wonder you admire atheists so much. You share their utterly unwarranted arrogance and belief in superiority you can't even remotely achieve.

 

[bripat9643]

It's not OK, but the government has no authority to tell private businesses what to do.

Again, you claim that you're a libertarian, but you just proved you aren't.

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

If you have a right to discriminate, then not allowing blacks into your restaurant would be a basic right. It's not.

You think just like a whiny hater.

If a restaurant owners only wants to serve left handed gay Asians, that should be his right.

False. If he only wants to serve a certain clientele, he can open a private club, and solicit members from among his preferred clientele.

If he wants a license to serve the public, he has to abide by the non-discrimation laws that govern that license, and serve the public.

ROFL! You can't claim that someone's opinion on how things should be is wrong. At least, not without a good reason. You have none. You simply stated what the law says. Redfish and I are saying the law is wrong. If you believe it's right, then give a reason. Don't waste our time by telling us what the law says.

 

[bripat9643]

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

If you have a right to discriminate, then not allowing blacks into your restaurant would be a basic right. It's not.

You think just like a whiny hater.

If a restaurant owners only wants to serve left handed gay Asians, that should be his right.

False. If he only wants to serve a certain clientele, he can open a private club, and solicit members from among his preferred clientele.

If he wants a license to serve the public, he has to abide by the non-discrimation laws that govern that license, and serve the public.

did you notice the word "should" in my post? you don't look so stupid if you read before responding.

She pretended not to notice it because she can't win that argument.

 

[Taz]

All countries that have a public system also allow citizens to have private care as well. But at least everyone is covered, and the people don't spit on the poor for needing healthcare, like you do.

No one in the USA is denied medical care, everyone is "covered". It has always been that way, those of us who pay cover those who can't or won't. It would be the same under socialized medicine, except that those who pay would also have to pay for a massive inefficient government bureaucracy.

The government in Canada sets standards but it's the hospitals themselves who administer their own hospitals.

"the government in Canada sets standards" that's why Canadians who can afford it come to the USA when seriously ill. If you live in Canada and like it, that's great, that system wont work here and we don't want it here. We have the best medical care in the entire world and do not want to change it. End of Story.

Canadians are free to seek out health care wherever they want. Their prescription drugs are also much cheaper.

Really sick of hearing that smug, superior line in connection with countries that only have "cheaper drugs" because the US is actually propping them up.

Pharmaceutical companies would be a whole lot less cooperative about the artificially low drug prices countries like Canada demand if they weren't able to recoup the losses by charging Americans more. And they wouldn't even consider spending the money on R&D to develop new drugs if it wasn't for the US.

So really, Canada and nations like it are the reason why medications cost so much in the US.

Drug companies like to gouge Americans because they fall for it so easily.

 

[Taz]

So in America, you don't want women to be free to decide for themselves what to do. You should think of moving to a Muslim country.

the decision should be made before they have unprotected sex. I have lived and worked in muslims countries, I have no interest in ever going to one again for any reason.

So you think that people should live how you tell them to.

NO, I think that every human being has the right to life and freedom. That includes human beings in the womb. I am ok with the morning after pill, condoms, BC pills, diaphrams, contraceptive foam, and every other form of birth control, but once that heart starts beating, its a human being and killing it is murder.

If its ok to kill an unborn up to the moment of birth, why not extend that to 2 years of age if the kid becomes a problem or inconvenience? What magically changes at the instant of birth that its ok to kill one moment and not the next?

A fetus vs a live being. So much for you having a science degree.

"A fetus isn't alive! That's SCIENCE . . . because I'm sure it is!"

English must not be your first language. Maybe get some reading lessons.

 

[Taz]

Hey, if wetbacks can come to this country illegally, I can make fun of them and their ignorance of soap.

I have no problem with that, and I feel free to make fun of ignorant liberals and their lack of knowledge about economics, race relations, immigration, taxes, slavery, and just about everything else. their new liberal/socialist spokeswoman AOC is a constant source of jokes with her idiotic comments.

I'm a Libertarian, not a Dem. Please try again.

you seem clueless and Causeless; not enough fiber in your diet?

I’m a vegetarian, now go take a bath, and spread the word among beaners.

Congratulations. I was able to tolerate your IQ measured in negative numbers, but your racism has finally motivated me to relegate you to the ground underneath the garbage dumpster where you have so manifestly belonged for so long.

Goodbye, and good riddance.

FLUSH!

Why are you so grumpy? And btw, go shave your bush, I'm sure it's really very hairy.

 

[Taz]

So discrimination ISN'T a human right. Thanks for walking that back.

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

If you have a right to discriminate, then not allowing blacks into your restaurant would be a basic right. It's not.

You think just like a whiny hater.

If a restaurant owners only wants to serve left handed gay Asians, that should be his right.

False. If he only wants to serve a certain clientele, he can open a private club, and solicit members from among his preferred clientele.

If he wants a license to serve the public, he has to abide by the non-discrimation laws that govern that license, and serve the public.

ROFL! You can't claim that someone's opinion on how things should be is wrong. At least, not without a good reason. You have none. You simply stated what the law says. Redfish and I are saying the law is wrong. If you believe it's right, then give a reason. Don't waste our time by telling us what the law says.

You have to serve gay people, suck it up, princess and go back in the closet.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes it is. Lying is also part of the human right known as freedom of speech. That doesn't make lying good. That fact that some behavior isn't admirable doesn't mean government is justified in making it against the law. Should government make adultery against the law?

You think just like a liberal.

If you have a right to discriminate, then not allowing blacks into your restaurant would be a basic right. It's not.

You think just like a whiny hater.

If a restaurant owners only wants to serve left handed gay Asians, that should be his right.

False. If he only wants to serve a certain clientele, he can open a private club, and solicit members from among his preferred clientele.

If he wants a license to serve the public, he has to abide by the non-discrimation laws that govern that license, and serve the public.

ROFL! You can't claim that someone's opinion on how things should be is wrong. At least, not without a good reason. You have none. You simply stated what the law says. Redfish and I are saying the law is wrong. If you believe it's right, then give a reason. Don't waste our time by telling us what the law says.

You have to serve gay people, suck it up, princess and go back in the closet.

We know what the law says, snowflake. That isn't what this discussion is about.

Once again you demonstrate that you're not a libertarian. No libertarian supports laws that require you to serve who the law designates.

 

[bripat9643]

I have no problem with that, and I feel free to make fun of ignorant liberals and their lack of knowledge about economics, race relations, immigration, taxes, slavery, and just about everything else. their new liberal/socialist spokeswoman AOC is a constant source of jokes with her idiotic comments.

I'm a Libertarian, not a Dem. Please try again.

you seem clueless and Causeless; not enough fiber in your diet?

I’m a vegetarian, now go take a bath, and spread the word among beaners.

Congratulations. I was able to tolerate your IQ measured in negative numbers, but your racism has finally motivated me to relegate you to the ground underneath the garbage dumpster where you have so manifestly belonged for so long.

Goodbye, and good riddance.

FLUSH!

Why are you so grumpy? And btw, go shave your bush, I'm sure it's really very hairy.

She's tired of dealing with morons like you, as am I.

 

[bripat9643]

No one in the USA is denied medical care, everyone is "covered". It has always been that way, those of us who pay cover those who can't or won't. It would be the same under socialized medicine, except that those who pay would also have to pay for a massive inefficient government bureaucracy.

The government in Canada sets standards but it's the hospitals themselves who administer their own hospitals.

"the government in Canada sets standards" that's why Canadians who can afford it come to the USA when seriously ill. If you live in Canada and like it, that's great, that system wont work here and we don't want it here. We have the best medical care in the entire world and do not want to change it. End of Story.

Canadians are free to seek out health care wherever they want. Their prescription drugs are also much cheaper.

Really sick of hearing that smug, superior line in connection with countries that only have "cheaper drugs" because the US is actually propping them up.

Pharmaceutical companies would be a whole lot less cooperative about the artificially low drug prices countries like Canada demand if they weren't able to recoup the losses by charging Americans more. And they wouldn't even consider spending the money on R&D to develop new drugs if it wasn't for the US.

So really, Canada and nations like it are the reason why medications cost so much in the US.

Drug companies like to gouge Americans because they fall for it so easily.

Your children will pay the price when government decides to control drug prices.

 

[Taz]

I'm a Libertarian, not a Dem. Please try again.

you seem clueless and Causeless; not enough fiber in your diet?

I’m a vegetarian, now go take a bath, and spread the word among beaners.

Congratulations. I was able to tolerate your IQ measured in negative numbers, but your racism has finally motivated me to relegate you to the ground underneath the garbage dumpster where you have so manifestly belonged for so long.

Goodbye, and good riddance.

FLUSH!

Why are you so grumpy? And btw, go shave your bush, I'm sure it's really very hairy.

She's tired of dealing with morons like you, as am I.

You're just tired of being wrong.

 

[Taz]

The government in Canada sets standards but it's the hospitals themselves who administer their own hospitals.

"the government in Canada sets standards" that's why Canadians who can afford it come to the USA when seriously ill. If you live in Canada and like it, that's great, that system wont work here and we don't want it here. We have the best medical care in the entire world and do not want to change it. End of Story.

Canadians are free to seek out health care wherever they want. Their prescription drugs are also much cheaper.

Really sick of hearing that smug, superior line in connection with countries that only have "cheaper drugs" because the US is actually propping them up.

Pharmaceutical companies would be a whole lot less cooperative about the artificially low drug prices countries like Canada demand if they weren't able to recoup the losses by charging Americans more. And they wouldn't even consider spending the money on R&D to develop new drugs if it wasn't for the US.

So really, Canada and nations like it are the reason why medications cost so much in the US.

Drug companies like to gouge Americans because they fall for it so easily.

Your children will pay the price when government decides to control drug prices.

If government controls prices we'll all pay less.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I'm a Libertarian, not a Dem. Please try again.

you seem clueless and Causeless; not enough fiber in your diet?

I’m a vegetarian, now go take a bath, and spread the word among beaners.

Congratulations. I was able to tolerate your IQ measured in negative numbers, but your racism has finally motivated me to relegate you to the ground underneath the garbage dumpster where you have so manifestly belonged for so long.

Goodbye, and good riddance.

FLUSH!

Why are you so grumpy? And btw, go shave your bush, I'm sure it's really very hairy.

She's tired of dealing with morons like you, as am I.

I am, but that's not it. I have a long-standing policy of never wasting time on racists. Someone starts spouting racial epithets, and they get filed in the round, swirling porcelain file.

 

[bripat9643]

"the government in Canada sets standards" that's why Canadians who can afford it come to the USA when seriously ill. If you live in Canada and like it, that's great, that system wont work here and we don't want it here. We have the best medical care in the entire world and do not want to change it. End of Story.

Canadians are free to seek out health care wherever they want. Their prescription drugs are also much cheaper.

Really sick of hearing that smug, superior line in connection with countries that only have "cheaper drugs" because the US is actually propping them up.

Pharmaceutical companies would be a whole lot less cooperative about the artificially low drug prices countries like Canada demand if they weren't able to recoup the losses by charging Americans more. And they wouldn't even consider spending the money on R&D to develop new drugs if it wasn't for the US.

So really, Canada and nations like it are the reason why medications cost so much in the US.

Drug companies like to gouge Americans because they fall for it so easily.

Your children will pay the price when government decides to control drug prices.

If government controls prices we'll all pay less.

There won't be any new drugs, you fucking dumbass. Drug companies aren't going to invest billions of dollars if they can't recoup their costs.

 

[bripat9643]

you seem clueless and Causeless; not enough fiber in your diet?

I’m a vegetarian, now go take a bath, and spread the word among beaners.

Congratulations. I was able to tolerate your IQ measured in negative numbers, but your racism has finally motivated me to relegate you to the ground underneath the garbage dumpster where you have so manifestly belonged for so long.

Goodbye, and good riddance.

FLUSH!

Why are you so grumpy? And btw, go shave your bush, I'm sure it's really very hairy.

She's tired of dealing with morons like you, as am I.

I am, but that's not it. I have a long-standing policy of never wasting time on racists. Someone starts spouting racial epithets, and they get filed in the round, swirling porcelain file.

I didn't notice until you pointed it out.