Tea Party=The New Nazi Party?

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What a fucking ridiculous comparison to make. Sheesh.

yet you can refute none of the comparisons?

The attitude that the nation needs saving. The shrill assaults on elected members of a democratically elected government. The populist nonsense that we need a revolution---starting with a Tea Party like revolt. The insistence that things are as bad in contemporary society as they were during the colonial times. The divisive calls that demonize other citizens as the enemy within. Demanding a party take over of the government...leading to one party Tea Party rule.

 

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sound familiar?
"I consider this Reichstag (Democratic led Congress---Congress Critters) utterly outdated and I am convinced that it will have to be dissolved, because it no longer reflects the will of the people."

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What a fucking ridiculous comparison to make. Sheesh.

"A worldwide economic depression again throws Germany into hyperinflation and massive employment.

And then what we had predicted occurred.

The state went bankrupt in every area of public life.

If it weren't for us, there would be no hope left for Germany.

We were persecuted, humiliated, condemned."

 

[Big Fitz]

From Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels' Diary

April 13, 1926

"Hitler was there. Tall healthy and vigorous." "I like him. He puts us to shame with his kindness." "We met. We asked questions. He gave brilliant replies." "I love him."

"The social issue, completely new insights. He has it all thought out." Hitler's ideal: "a mixture of collectivism and individualism. Production must remain a matter for individuals, big corporations, trusts, etc, all to be nationalized. This is what we discuss."

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I'm watching the documentary: The Goebbels Experiment. I got to thinking about the correlations between the Nazi's in Germany and the Conservatives in America.

Before using the Tea Party name, as a name for a movement, took hold in the imagination of the popular right wing nutso-sphere---Dale Robertson was using Tea Party dot org, as a name in September of 2004 (as far as I can tell).

Who is Dale and what why do I and others call him a leader and founder of the Tea Party movement?

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There is no denying Dale was using the name Tea Party, and calling for conservatives to take back the GOP. Dale is a lair, and a propagandist. There is no denying Dale Robertson was involved with starting and helping tom organize Tea Party rallies in Texas, before they got scared with him and his racist ideology. There is no denying the right is distancing themselves from Robertson with deceit and deception as to how he is connected to them. Dale is at Tea Party events in 2009.

In a brief bio on his website, he lies about his military career. According to the website,

Dale served his nation first as a U.S. Marine. After completing his duties with the Corps, he reenlisted into the U.S. Navy and became a U.S. Naval Officer. During his distinguished time of service, Dale’s Battle Group was first to the scene on 9/11 as well as first to launch an offensive in Afghanistan. He was stationed on the USS Sacramento which was the life blood of the Battle Group. He faithfully served our nation with Honor and Integrity, retiring after 22 years.

But a Freedom of Information Act request by blogger Jonn Lilyea at This Ain't Hell reveals that Robertson was discharged from the U.S. Marine Corps Reserves after serving less than a year. That is quite an embellishment from the record he claims on his website. Robertson's statement is, in fact, riddled with falsehoods.

Read more: STORY RETRACTED | Fake Tea Partier Also a Phony Soldier | NewsBusters.org

I post a few links from the right wing blowhardo-sphere and others.

‘N-Word’ Sign Dogs Would-Be Tea Party Leader The Washington Independent

STORY RETRACTED | Fake Tea Partier Also a Phony Soldier | NewsBusters.org

'Warning: Tea Party In Danger': Leader Slams Palin As 'Wolf In Sheep's Clothing' | TPMMuckraker

Tea Partier Tells Mediaite Racist Sign Was Forged; We Have Him On Record Defending Its Use Alan Colmes' Liberaland

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back to the Nazi Party/Tea Party correlations.

Bush was the GOP and conservative pick to lead the nation. What did Bush do in 2008? He all but nationalized the banks as he called for individual responsibilities, etc.
Sound familiar? What did Hitler call for? (see above quote from the diary of Joseph Goebbels)

We have Tea Party people speaking about how they view the nation. How they view fellow citizens as outsiders. We have Tea Party rallies where people speak openly about challenging the will of the Republic (the vote) with armed insurrection.

there's lots more...

I'll be back.


dD

Oh this is too rich. Trying to paint the Tea Party as Nazis when the evidence is plain the opposite is true.

And you neg rep me for stating the truth of it.

The hypocrisy is truly mystifying in it's depth.

 

[Jaaaman]

The liberal mindset defies logic. Dante and his examples here are right from the textbook.

 

[Oddball]

some of the 'more' I promised...


these look just like posts straight off the Tea Party blogs and web sites.


"We need a firm hand in Germany (America). Let's put an end to all the experiments and empty words, and start getting down to serious work. Throw out the Jews (Democrats, Liberals, Leftists, Socialists---other Americans), who refuse to become real Germans (Americans). Give them a good beating too."


"I'm so despondent about everything. Everything I try goes totally wrong. There's no escape from this hole here. I feel drained. So far, I still haven't found a real purpose in life." "Sometimes, I'm afraid to get out of bed in the morning. There's nothing to get up for."

"My life lacks any meaning. I'm meandering aimlessly. Lost in the universe. Lack of money is oppressive, what a terrible fate. Why bother to read these wretched newspapers, it just makes you feel more stupid."

"Politics is killing me."

Now I'm certain that there is no Earthly measure to describe the depths of your sheer stupidity.

You, as much as anyone else, should know damned well that any psycho troll can post any meaningless crap they can want on the innertubes.

After all, you do so, all day every day, right here.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Oh this is too rich. Trying to paint the Tea Party as Nazis when the evidence is plain the opposite is true.

...

The hypocrisy is truly mystifying in it's depth.

"...a good government can no more exist without propaganda than good propaganda without a good government. One needs to augment the other."

"And even if today's Jewish newspapers (liberal press) still believe they can intimidate the National Socialist (Tea Party) movement with veiled threats, even if they believe they have permission to circumvent our emergency decrees---They should take care, for one day our patience will run dry and then the Jews (liberals, socialists, Democrats, leftists) will have their brazen, lying mouths stuffed once and for all."


sounds eerily like a speech at a Tea Party rally.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

some of the 'more' I promised...


these look just like posts straight off the Tea Party blogs and web sites.


"We need a firm hand in Germany (America). Let's put an end to all the experiments and empty words, and start getting down to serious work. Throw out the Jews (Democrats, Liberals, Leftists, Socialists---other Americans), who refuse to become real Germans (Americans). Give them a good beating too."


"I'm so despondent about everything. Everything I try goes totally wrong. There's no escape from this hole here. I feel drained. So far, I still haven't found a real purpose in life." "Sometimes, I'm afraid to get out of bed in the morning. There's nothing to get up for."

"My life lacks any meaning. I'm meandering aimlessly. Lost in the universe. Lack of money is oppressive, what a terrible fate. Why bother to read these wretched newspapers, it just makes you feel more stupid."

"Politics is killing me."

Now I'm certain that there is no Earthly measure to describe the depths of your sheer stupidity.

You, as much as anyone else, should know damned well that any psycho troll can post any meaningless crap they can want on the innertubes.

After all, you do so, all day every day, right here.

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these look just like posts straight off the Tea Party blogs and web sites.


"We need a firm hand in Germany (America). Let's put an end to all the experiments and empty words, and start getting down to serious work. Throw out the Jews (Democrats, Liberals, Leftists, Socialists---other Americans), who refuse to become real Germans (Americans). Give them a good beating too."


"I'm so despondent about everything. Everything I try goes totally wrong. There's no escape from this hole here. I feel drained. So far, I still haven't found a real purpose in life." "Sometimes, I'm afraid to get out of bed in the morning. There's nothing to get up for."

"My life lacks any meaning. I'm meandering aimlessly. Lost in the universe. Lack of money is oppressive, what a terrible fate. Why bother to read these wretched newspapers, it just makes you feel more stupid."

"Politics is killing me."

 

[Oddball]

Right...Because we know that every anonymous schmuck posting crap on the interwebs means each and every word of it.

Please, continue making a bigger fool of yourself than "normal"...As though that's at all possible..

 

[Big Fitz]

Oh this is too rich. Trying to paint the Tea Party as Nazis when the evidence is plain the opposite is true.

...

The hypocrisy is truly mystifying in it's depth.

"...a good government can no more exist without propaganda than good propaganda without a good government. One needs to augment the other."

"And even if today's Jewish newspapers (liberal press) still believe they can intimidate the National Socialist (Tea Party) movement with veiled threats, even if they believe they have permission to circumvent our emergency decrees---They should take care, for one day our patience will run dry and then the Jews (liberals, socialists, Democrats, leftists) will have their brazen, lying mouths stuffed once and for all."


sounds eerily like a speech at a Tea Party rally.

Thankfully sane people recognize such a blatant lie as calling Tea Parties socialist as what it is. Their goals are utterly opposite.

Nazis got National Health Care. Obama Administration passed National Health Care.

Nazis used Racial Identity politics. Obama Administration uses Racial Identity Politics

Nazi supporters bullied and attacked their ideological enemies. Obama use bully tactics to intimidate their ideological enemies.

Nazi supporters forced corporations under their control. The Obama Administration has brought a large part of the auto industry under it's direct control with the Medical and insurance industries next.

Nazi's disarmed their populace. The Obama Administration wants to disarm the populace.

Nazis blamed the attrocities they caused on opposition groups they demagogued (Reichstad fire and Krystallnacht). The Obama Administration is demogoguing groups they see as opposition and trying to blame them for actions they have not done.

But, like a few others, I suspect you're just doing your master's bidding. Do you get paid by the post, or word count?

 

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Pathos. Does it explain the appeal of the Tea Party to angry and frustrated folks who would march to a Nazi drum if given the chance?

Pathos:

Pathos is related to the words pathetic, sympathy and empathy.

Whenever you accept an claim based on how it makes you feel without fully analyzing the rationale behind the claim, you are acting on pathos. They may be any emotions: love, fear, patriotism, guilt, hate or joy. A majority of arguments in the popular press are heavily dependent on pathetic appeals.

The more people react without full consideration for the WHY, the more effective an argument can be. Although the pathetic appeal can be manipulative, it is the cornerstone of moving people to action. Many arguments are able to persuade people logically, but the apathetic audience may not follow through on the call to action.

Appeals to pathos touch a nerve and compel people to not only listen, but to also take the next step and act in the world.

Logos_Ethos_Pathos

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Right...Because we know that every anonymous schmuck posting crap on the interwebs means each and every word of it.

Please, continue making a fool of yourself.

every anonymous schmuck on the internet? where do I use the quotes of schmucks on the internet, except in pointing out that one of the founders of the Tea Party movement is a man who started teaparty.org back in 2004?

Some schmuck. Unlike you, he persuaded an awful lot of people to buy his angry bullshit. Your angry bullshit? Not selling very well at the moment.

 

[Big Fitz]

Pathos. Does it explain the appeal of the Tea Party to angry and frustrated folks who would march to a Nazi drum if given the chance?

Pathos:

Pathos is related to the words pathetic, sympathy and empathy.

Whenever you accept an claim based on how it makes you feel without fully analyzing the rationale behind the claim, you are acting on pathos. They may be any emotions: love, fear, patriotism, guilt, hate or joy. A majority of arguments in the popular press are heavily dependent on pathetic appeals.

The more people react without full consideration for the WHY, the more effective an argument can be. Although the pathetic appeal can be manipulative, it is the cornerstone of moving people to action. Many arguments are able to persuade people logically, but the apathetic audience may not follow through on the call to action.

Appeals to pathos touch a nerve and compel people to not only listen, but to also take the next step and act in the world.

Logos_Ethos_Pathos

Sorry, conservatives do not march to the state's drums like the lock step leftists currently running the show. Liberty is incomparable with a totalitarian federal government.

 

[Oddball]

Right...Because we know that every anonymous schmuck posting crap on the interwebs means each and every word of it.

Please, continue making a fool of yourself.

every anonymous schmuck on the internet? where do I use the quotes of schmucks on the internet, except in pointing out that one of the founders of the Tea Party movement is a man who started teaparty.org back in 2004?

Some schmuck. Unlike you, he persuaded an awful lot of people to buy his angry bullshit. Your angry bullshit? Not selling very well at the moment.

Angry bullshit sells all day to angry borderline psychos like you.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Oh this is too rich. Trying to paint the Tea Party as Nazis when the evidence is plain the opposite is true.

...

The hypocrisy is truly mystifying in it's depth.

"...a good government can no more exist without propaganda than good propaganda without a good government. One needs to augment the other."

"And even if today's Jewish newspapers (liberal press) still believe they can intimidate the National Socialist (Tea Party) movement with veiled threats, even if they believe they have permission to circumvent our emergency decrees---They should take care, for one day our patience will run dry and then the Jews (liberals, socialists, Democrats, leftists) will have their brazen, lying mouths stuffed once and for all."


sounds eerily like a speech at a Tea Party rally.

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Nazi supporters forced corporations under their control. The Obama Administration has brought a large part of the auto industry under it's direct control with the Medical and insurance industries next....

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President George W. Bush, the choice of conservatives in 2000 and 2004, just about nationalized the banks in 2008. The auto industry took a government bailout.

I was not speaking about socialism. You are. Deflection is silly here. I am drawing comparisons between the Nazi Party speech and attitudes to it's fellow citizens and government and those of the Tea Party.


None has refuted any comparisons yet---or even tried to.

The comparisons stand

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Pathos. Does it explain the appeal of the Tea Party to angry and frustrated folks who would march to a Nazi drum if given the chance?

Pathos:

Pathos is related to the words pathetic, sympathy and empathy.

Whenever you accept an claim based on how it makes you feel without fully analyzing the rationale behind the claim, you are acting on pathos. They may be any emotions: love, fear, patriotism, guilt, hate or joy. A majority of arguments in the popular press are heavily dependent on pathetic appeals.

The more people react without full consideration for the WHY, the more effective an argument can be. Although the pathetic appeal can be manipulative, it is the cornerstone of moving people to action. Many arguments are able to persuade people logically, but the apathetic audience may not follow through on the call to action.

Appeals to pathos touch a nerve and compel people to not only listen, but to also take the next step and act in the world.

Logos_Ethos_Pathos

Sorry, conservatives do not march to the state's drums like the lock step leftists currently running the show. Liberty is incomparable with a totalitarian federal government.

Really?

Seems like yesterday the conservatives were calling the Democrats stupid for not doing what they did when they were in power---follow the leader. As a matter of fact, look at the votes. Lock step and marching to a drum is what the GOP under conservative dominance has done since 1978.

Since 1978? Liberals in the Democratic party have fought amongst themselves in primaries and when in control. Ted Kennedy challenged a sitting President. When was the last time a Republican challenged a sitting President?

Shit, 1968...LBJ had credible primary challengers lined up against him

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Right...Because we know that every anonymous schmuck posting crap on the interwebs means each and every word of it.

Please, continue making a fool of yourself.

every anonymous schmuck on the internet? where do I use the quotes of schmucks on the internet, except in pointing out that one of the founders of the Tea Party movement is a man who started teaparty.org back in 2004?

Some schmuck. Unlike you, he persuaded an awful lot of people to buy his angry bullshit. Your angry bullshit? Not selling very well at the moment.

Angry bullshit sells all day to angry borderline psychos like you.

Angry? Hardly. Never did the I hate Bush or other hate things.

 

[elvis]

the Hitler card seems to be the new weapon of the Left. It sort of goes along with the race card.

 

[Oddball]

every anonymous schmuck on the internet? where do I use the quotes of schmucks on the internet, except in pointing out that one of the founders of the Tea Party movement is a man who started teaparty.org back in 2004?

Some schmuck. Unlike you, he persuaded an awful lot of people to buy his angry bullshit. Your angry bullshit? Not selling very well at the moment.

Angry bullshit sells all day to angry borderline psychos like you.

Angry? Hardly. Never did the I hate Bush or other hate things.

You don't have to say it in so many words....Your not-at-all veiled anger comes across every day, in every way.

Steer clear of post offices, OK?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

the Hitler card seems to be the new weapon of the Left. It sort of goes along with the race card.

FOX News?

"Now meetings are becoming a real pleasure. We have a new subject that grips us all, we have enthusiasm, energy and absolute commitment for our cause, we have audiences that respond passionately. We can speak from the heart and we no longer need to spare our enemies' feelings. For the election, we're generating large amounts of money, and this will put an end to all our financial problems. I set the propaganda machinery in motion, and an hour later the printing presses were chattering away.

Our propaganda is considered to be exemplary, not just by the German press, but by the international press, too. We have acquired so much expertise in this field during previous election campaigns that we can overcome our opponents. We frighten them, and they hardly dare utter a word. Now we will show what the apparatus can achieve, if you know how to use it."