Taking Well-Meaning Pro Life Efforts Too Far

mom4 said:
How would it be a lie? An adoptive father who would love, care for, protect and provide for a child IS the father of the child. Ask any adoptive parent. The bond created by giving of yourself to this little one makes you by right the parent.

I would never conceal the fact that the child was adopted. As a child grew old enough to understand this word and ask questions, they would be answered truthfully. I don't discuss pornography, masturbation, torture, etc. with my children (ages 3-8). They are too young to understand and deal with this type of subject. Just so, I would delay the revelation of the hideous conception of the adopted child until it was old enough.

Gotcha. Sorry, I thought the meaning was that one would simply claim that the husband was the biological father.

That will be a tough one when you tell the child who the biological father is though. Specially the circumstances.
 
Johnney said:
so you would punish the girl even further and make her carry someones bastard that was forced upon her? even though she didnt want to?

Yes. It's like if someone gets in a car accident caused by a drunk driver and loses their legs. It's horrible. It's not fair. It shouldn't have happened, But it did. The answer is not to kill a human life. Sorry.
 
theim said:
Yes. It's like if someone gets in a car accident caused by a drunk driver and loses their legs. It's horrible. It's not fair. It shouldn't have happened, But it did. The answer is not to kill a human life. Sorry.

You would *make* them carry to full term? And if they didn't? How do you suppose you'd enforce this demand? Abuse? Leave them? How?

Might I suggest you tell your future wife up front, and warn her that the same will be required of any children if necessary.... It's guaranteed to save you a LOT of money in wedding costs.
 
theim said:
Yes. It's like if someone gets in a car accident caused by a drunk driver and loses their legs. It's horrible. It's not fair. It shouldn't have happened, But it did. The answer is not to kill a human life. Sorry.
but the thing is is your missing a leg, nothing you can do about it. there is something to do about a rape baby, if its so chosen.
sorry
 
Bonnie said:
There is adoption?
Bonnie, as far as I know, Loyola University Med. Center a Catholic teaching hospital, takes rape cases. They prepare rape kit for police, etc. Also do
D & C, which is not technically an abortion, but prevents pregnancy.
 
Johnney said:
but the thing is is your missing a leg, nothing you can do about it. there is something to do about a rape baby, if its so chosen.
sorry

yeah, killing a human being. That could be the solution to my current problem with money (I barely have any), but just because its possible does not neccesarily mean its right.
 
Shattered said:
You would *make* them carry to full term? And if they didn't? How do you suppose you'd enforce this demand? Abuse? Leave them? How?

Might I suggest you tell your future wife up front, and warn her that the same will be required of any children if necessary.... It's guaranteed to save you a LOT of money in wedding costs.

I'd throw em in the dungeon. Gimme a break. I would most likely find out my wife's stance on abortion before marrying her. But to humor you, yes, there would probly be some problems which would probly result in one of us leaving the other, seeing as how our very veiws of life and death differ so much.
 
theim said:
yeah, killing a human being. That could be the solution to my current problem with money (I barely have any), but just because its possible does not neccesarily mean its right.
maybe not for you, but for some other couple or parents or whatever, it could be
 
theim said:
I'd throw em in the dungeon. Gimme a break. I would most likely find out my wife's stance on abortion before marrying her. But to humor you, yes, there would probly be some problems which would probly result in one of us leaving the other, seeing as how our very veiws of life and death differ so much.

You gotta be kidding me.. You'd leave your wife because she was raped, and didn't want to carry the resulting baby? That's not even human.
 
Shattered said:
You gotta be kidding me.. You'd leave your wife because she was raped, and didn't want to carry the resulting baby? That's not even human.
that is kind of extreme
 
Shattered said:
You gotta be kidding me.. You'd leave your wife because she was raped, and didn't want to carry the resulting baby? That's not even human.

I wouldn't marry anyone who supported abortion anway so its really a moot point.
 
Johnney said:
that is kind of extreme

He said it - not me. He just didn't put it quite as bluntly, but instead cloaked it in milder words, like "problems, and resulting"...
 
theim said:
I wouldn't marry anyone who supported abortion anway so its really a moot point.

Maybe when the conversation comes up, you'd better spring the rape scenario on her, and mention that any female children will be subjected to the same torture, because I don't think that anyone thinks that far ahead...
 
Are you even listening? I would never leave my wife for wanting to have an abortion because I would never MARRY someone who was pro-abortion.
 
theim said:
Are you even listening? I would never leave my wife for wanting to have an abortion because I would never MARRY someone who was pro-abortion.
but you can never tell until something like that happens. sure they may be against it now, but what happens 10-15 years down the road. people change which side of the fence they want to be on.

oh and Shattered, i knew that, i was jsut commenting on it and chose yours to quote
 
*sigh* All I was saying is that I would have a lot of trouble living with and sleeping with someone who allowed the death of a human being to alleviate their own suffering.
 
theim said:
*sigh* All I was saying is that I would have a lot of trouble living with and sleeping with someone who allowed the death of a human being to alleviate their own suffering.

You think the suffering from rape can be *alleviated*? Not even close. However, where do you get off stating the woman should suffer even more just because of your beliefs?
 
Shattered said:
You think the suffering from rape can be *alleviated*? Not even close. However, where do you get off stating the woman should suffer even more just because of your beliefs?

This is why I will not marry a pro-choice woman, as I said in my last 3 replies. I would not want a person to suffer just because of my beliefs.
 
theim said:
This is why I will not marry a pro-choice woman, as I said in my last 3 replies. I would not want a person to suffer just because of my beliefs.

I'm not pro choice. *However* even I can admit that there are some situations in life where some things may need to be altered for the betterment of the person involved. The instance in this conversation, and if the mothers life is in danger by carrying to term.

We're also talking about the morning after pill, here, wherein you have something like a 72 HOUR (not day) window. Not an abortion performed by a doctor 6 weeks into the pregnancy.
 
Johnney Wrote:
so you would punish the girl even further and make her carry someones bastard that was forced upon her? even though she didnt want to?

so you would kill an innocent person because his or her father is a criminal?
 

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