student escorted out of class for not saying the pledge

[RadiomanATL]

Teacher needs to have some disciplinary action.

Child was non-disruptive. That is one of the only times a child needs to be escorted from the classroom.

 

[CMike]

Hey they don't have to say the Pledge. They can find a private arabic school that better serves their allegiance.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Hey they don't have to say the Pledge. They can find a private arabic school that better serves their allegiance.

And it sounds like you would fit in just fine there yourself.

 

[blu]

Hey they don't have to say the Pledge. They can find a private arabic school that better serves their allegiance.

why would you force someone to say a pledge in a free country?

red herring and deflection btw.

 

[Kalam]

Hey they don't have to say the Pledge. They can find a private arabic school that better serves their allegiance.

I wouldn't bring up dual loyalties if I were you, Jonathan Pollard.

 

[SFC Ollie]

you hate them because people aren't forced to do something daily in a free country???

I seldom use the word hate. I can't stand them because they always seem to work against freedom of religion, and they work against the protection of the flag.

which of those did they fight against in this case?

Don't try to male more of what I say than I do not like the ACLU. And that I show utmost respect for the Flag of the United States. And just leave it at that.

 

[Dr Grump]

I seldom use the word hate. I can't stand them because they always seem to work against freedom of religion, and they work against the protection of the flag.

1) No, they work for freedom FROM religion.
2) Depends on what people see in the flag.

 

[Coyote]

Hey they don't have to say the Pledge. They can find a private arabic school that better serves their allegiance.

As the days go by, we face the increasing inevitability that we are alone in a godless, uninhabited, hostile and meaningless universe. Still, you've got to laugh, haven't you?

 

[Dr Grump]

Hey they don't have to say the Pledge. They can find a private arabic school that better serves their allegiance.

Wow! You must be a real patriot!

 

[SFC Ollie]

I seldom use the word hate. I can't stand them because they always seem to work against freedom of religion, and they work against the protection of the flag.

1) No, they work for freedom FROM religion.
2) Depends on what people see in the flag.

Freedom from religion is not one of our rightss in the constitution.

Maybe this should be a separate thread; What I see in the flag is a symbol of the freedoms that Americans have fought, bled, and died for for over 200 years. Of course i do not expect others to agree with that.

 

[Anguille]

good ......

Why?

Call me simple, but it's tradition in my book .....

If you really care about tradition then you must prefer the original time honored traditional version of the Pledge. Not the adulterated version from the McCarthy era.

 

[rightwinger]

"With Liberty and justice for all"

 

[Anguille]

"
The Montgomery school system's student handbook contains a section about "Patriotic Exercises" that reads: "You cannot be required to say a pledge, sing an anthem, or take part in patriotic exercises. No one will be permitted to intentionally embarrass you if you choose not to participate."
The incident began on a Wednesday in late January, when the girl did not stand for the pledge. Her teacher yelled at her, demanded that she stand and then sent her to the office for her defiance, Quereshi said. The school system confirmed the sequence of events.
The next morning, the girl again refused to stand for the pledge. This time, the teacher called two school police officers to the classroom to escort the girl to the office."


I attended Montgomery County schools. I can't believe this crap is still going on!! The teacher needs to be disciplined.

 

[Samson]

good ......

Why?

Call me simple, but it's tradition in my book .....

What are you? 100 years old?

I was a little surprised to read: "The Supreme Court ruled in 1943 that students cannot be forced to salute the flag."

Apparently the "tradition" has been illegal for the past 67 years.

 

[Dr Grump]

Freedom from religion is not one of our rightss in the constitution.

Maybe this should be a separate thread; What I see in the flag is a symbol of the freedoms that Americans have fought, bled, and died for for over 200 years. Of course i do not expect others to agree with that.

1) You need a piece of paper to tell you that it's wrong to try and instill your religion on folk who don't think the same as you?

2) I think Americans did fight for those things during the beginning of its history. And I think since world war II its heart has been in the right place, but its foreign policy has failed miserably...

 

[Coyote]

I seldom use the word hate. I can't stand them because they always seem to work against freedom of religion, and they work against the protection of the flag.

1) No, they work for freedom FROM religion.
2) Depends on what people see in the flag.

Freedom from religion is not one of our rightss in the constitution.

Maybe this should be a separate thread; What I see in the flag is a symbol of the freedoms that Americans have fought, bled, and died for for over 200 years. Of course i do not expect others to agree with that.

Just tackling #1....what is the difference between "freedom of religion" and "freedom from religion"?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Freedom from religion is not one of our rightss in the constitution.

Maybe this should be a separate thread; What I see in the flag is a symbol of the freedoms that Americans have fought, bled, and died for for over 200 years. Of course i do not expect others to agree with that.

1) You need a piece of paper to tell you that it's wrong to try and instill your religion on folk who don't think the same as you?

2) I think Americans did fight for those things during the beginning of its history. And I think since world war II its heart has been in the right place, but its foreign policy has failed miserably...

People have freedom of speech , they can talk about their religion all they want. You nor I have to listen, And I have closed my door in the face of many who have done that. But to force the military from helping or supporting the BSA because the word God is in their pledge, and to demand that a cross in the middle of the desert be removed because it offends one person is all BS.

 

[Dr Grump]

People have freedom of speech , they can talk about their religion all they want. You nor I have to listen, And I have closed my door in the face of many who have done that. But to force the military from helping or supporting the BSA because the word God is in their pledge, and to demand that a cross in the middle of the desert be removed because it offends one person is all BS.

I'm pretty sure the ACLU only goes after those symbols etc when they are in a public place or government installed.

What cross in what desert?

 

[uptownlivin90]

I seldom use the word hate. I can't stand them because they always seem to work against freedom of religion, and they work against the protection of the flag.

1) No, they work for freedom FROM religion.
2) Depends on what people see in the flag.

Freedom from religion is not one of our rightss in the constitution.

Maybe this should be a separate thread; What I see in the flag is a symbol of the freedoms that Americans have fought, bled, and died for for over 200 years. Of course i do not expect others to agree with that.

American soldiers faught and died so that young children wouldn't be dragged out of classrooms by police for not saying a damn pledge like this is stalinist russia or something.

I'm seriously getting tired of you old "tea bagging" patriots and your bullshit.

You call Obama a "communist" and "socialist", when it's you old ass farts that live off our SOCIALIST tax dollars through medicare and social security and whine whenever the Hell you don't get your way. Then you want to make this nation look like SOCIALIST CHINA and have kids dragged out of classrooms because they don't recite, in unison, some pledge. Really? I was right there saying kids shouldn't be singing songs in class to Mr. Obama and that it looked creepy. Just as they shouldn't be singing songs to Obama, kids shouldn't be forced to recite indoctrinating pledges.

Playing the national anthem at sports events is quite enough. Respect of the constitution and patriotism is something to be taught in the home and not forced on people in the school system. Just like religious values and bullshit "tolerance of homosexuals" values, it cuts BOTH WAYS. Don't force your values and beliefs on other's children and they won't force them on yours.

 

[uptownlivin90]

People have freedom of speech , they can talk about their religion all they want. You nor I have to listen, And I have closed my door in the face of many who have done that. But to force the military from helping or supporting the BSA because the word God is in their pledge, and to demand that a cross in the middle of the desert be removed because it offends one person is all BS.

I'm pretty sure the ACLU only goes after those symbols etc when they are in a public place or government installed.

What cross in what desert?

The one that God himself built (with tax payer dollars I'm sure... lazy socialist bastard) to save the wicked from their sins.

They all hate the ACLU until the ACLU defends they're own bullshit in court.