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[buckeye45_73]

Hispanic Custodians On Auraria Campus Claim Discrimination « CBS Denver

Denver is pretty liberal, so it's pretty funny, but I love this profound statement!

“If I could speak English I wouldn’t have the problems that exist,” said Ribota.

No shit!!!!!!!!!!


OMG and here is the most racist, most descriminating statement ever:

The Auraria Campus believes employees should understand some basic English.

 

[hoosier88]

The 4th from the end para of the URL says that all other CO universities have to provide translations to their staff, if needed. That's a neat trick - how did this particular campus avoid that provision?

& if basic English is a bona fide qualification for the positions, How did the complainants get hired? Did the campus test for basic English skills? If not, doesn't that undermine the argument that English skills are required? If no English test nor interview was required, that argues that basic English isn't a bona fide requirement.

& besides, you can't have maintenance personnel working with equipment & chemicals if they don't understand instructions or labels. The immediate supervision for these employees should have IDed any problems, & arranged for short-term & long-term cures for any deficiencies. (English classes, for instance, with a time limit for basic English competency.)

& yah, even in Colorado, everybody should be able to communicate in English. Denver used to have a fair ESL program - surely there are night classes or some program somewhere where these employees could work on the English. If it's a given for their positions, they should be encouraged to better their English - if it's a condition for the slots, they probably shouldn't be paid for attending. (Maybe the college could offer tutoring in English?)

More details would be helpful - How long have these workers held these jobs? Have they performed well? & so on.

 

[buckeye45_73]

The 4th from the end para of the URL says that all other CO universities have to provide translations to their staff, if needed. That's a neat trick - how did this particular campus avoid that provision?

& if basic English is a bona fide qualification for the positions, How did the complainants get hired? Did the campus test for basic English skills? If not, doesn't that undermine the argument that English skills are required? If no English test nor interview was required, that argues that basic English isn't a bona fide requirement.

& besides, you can't have maintenance personnel working with equipment & chemicals if they don't understand instructions or labels. The immediate supervision for these employees should have IDed any problems, & arranged for short-term & long-term cures for any deficiencies. (English classes, for instance, with a time limit for basic English competency.)

& yah, even in Colorado, everybody should be able to communicate in English. Denver used to have a fair ESL program - surely there are night classes or some program somewhere where these employees could work on the English. If it's a given for their positions, they should be encouraged to better their English - if it's a condition for the slots, they probably shouldn't be paid for attending. (Maybe the college could offer tutoring in English?)

More details would be helpful - How long have these workers held these jobs? Have they performed well? & so on.

Good points....I just like the profound statements and quit this bilingual crap.

 

[konradv]

I can't believe we're still hearing this kind of crap with regard to Spanish. It's a bona fide American language, whether anyone likes it or not. It's the main language of Puerto Rico and when it becomes a state the last vestige of "otherness" will have to drop away. So, get used to it.

 

[RoadVirus]

This is America. We speak English. If you can't grasp that, you know where the door is. There is no reason why we should accomodate those that can't speak English. It's all part of that assimilation thing. Speak English or leave!

 

[hoosier88]

I can't believe we're still hearing this kind of crap with regard to Spanish. It's a bona fide American language, whether anyone likes it or not. It's the main language of Puerto Rico and when it becomes a state the last vestige of "otherness" will have to drop away. So, get used to it.

Yah, it's an American language, no doubt. America, named for an Italian mapmaker (?) who never set foot here. Well, it's a funny world.

The resistance to recognizing Spanish in N. Am is that then, you'd have to look @ the Native People's languages & cultures, & decide whether to recognize them or not. & once you recognize them, you have to wonder what became of them, & their speakers & their culture. Which makes our heads hurt, thank you v. much, & hey, it's time for a McMeal!

So no, I expect we'll have this rear guard action right up until the end of time - & given the way K-12 civics/history books are written, for @ least a generation after that, too.

 

[konradv]

This is America. We speak English. If you can't grasp that, you know where the door is. There is no reason why we should accomodate those that can't speak English. It's all part of that assimilation thing. Speak English or leave!

Puerto Rico will likely become a state and Spanish is the main language there. I'm afraid your attitude just won't cut it. Learn Spanish or get left behind.

 

[blastoff]

Ask Canadian businesses how much fun it is to have to print everything in English and French, not to mention additional expenses that get passed along to their consumers.

But, hey, if you don't want to learn English that's fine. We're always gonna need folks to clean our toilets and whatnot.

 

[Katzndogz]

If Puerto Rico becomes a state, then they will just have to learn English. The whole nation isn't going to change to accommodate them.

 

[longknife]

Just saw a political commentary on local tv here in Vegas where a representative of the Philippine/Asian community was bragging how the population had grown to the point where Tagalog would soon be required to be added to the local BALLOTS!!!!!

And, while I'm fluent in Spanish, IT IS NOT an "American language". It was only spoken in a small portion of the present-day United States.

 

[konradv]

If Puerto Rico becomes a state, then they will just have to learn English. The whole nation isn't going to change to accommodate them.

We already have Spanish versions of just about everything. In the future it's the people that can't speak both that are going to be cleaning the toilets. Who's going to hire someone for an executive position, if they can't speak to the customers and workers?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Some people need to get out more. Travel. See the world. Learn how these things are handled elsewhere.

 

[novasteve]

Fuck it, what's so special about hispancis that they get all of these accomodations and signs. I want signs put up in Yiddish. That's what my ancestors spoke. except they had to be bothered to learn english. So hispanics get special treatment, and I'm being discriminated against as a result.

 

[novasteve]

If Puerto Rico becomes a state, then they will just have to learn English. The whole nation isn't going to change to accommodate them.

We already have Spanish versions of just about everything. In the future it's the people that can't speak both that are going to be cleaning the toilets. Who's going to hire someone for an executive position, if they can't speak to the customers and workers?

Are spanish speakers too stupid to learn english or are they being enabled to not learn english? What's so special abotu them that they get all these signs put up, but my ethnic group doesn't? How is that equality? Why can't I hvae yiddish and german and russian put up on signs too?

 

[novasteve]

I thought libs say they come here for better lives and to become Americans. But if they are expected to learn English not only do they refuse, but actually threaten to sue?


Libbies, can you explain this to me how your claims make sense? Or do I need to kill some brain cells before I will understand liberal logic?

Deviant, cocksucking prancing sissies.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Just saw a political commentary on local tv here in Vegas where a representative of the Philippine/Asian community was bragging how the population had grown to the point where Tagalog would soon be required to be added to the local BALLOTS!!!!!

And, while I'm fluent in Spanish, IT IS NOT an "American language". It was only spoken in a small portion of the present-day United States.

This is exactly why I support that all Government Documents, including ballots, be in English only.

In order to vote, you must be a citizen. In order to be a citizen, you must prove that you read, write, and speak English. Requirements for Applying for Citizenship in the United States - FindLaw

 

[TemplarKormac]

Geesh, this liberal ideology that people should be accommodated instead of motivated is purely pervasive!

No concessions for foreigners and immigrants. Learn English, or get the hell out of my country. It's that simple.

 

[Decus]

If we insist on becoming a Tower of Babel my vote is that Chinese becomes an official language. My reasons are simple: they helped build this country, part of my family is Chinese and....they increasingly "own" this country.

English should be made the only official language of the US. If we don't do this soon we are inviting trouble.

 

[hoosier88]

If Puerto Rico becomes a state, then they will just have to learn English. The whole nation isn't going to change to accommodate them.

(My bold)

I'm sure the Iroquois, the Cherokee, Navajo, Sioux & on & on would heartily agree with you. (& where are they now?)

That's the problem when you go blundering about the World, staking a claim to lands already held. PR & the Philippines were already occupied & governed when we decided to have a war. PR hardly resisted, they were restive under Spanish rule. In Cuba, we had some fight. In the Philippines, we co-opted the revolutionaries, escorted the Spanish out, & then claimed the islands for ourselves, & dissolved our eternal pal-ship with the revolutionaries. A long war ensued there.

For that matter, TX & the entire present-day SW of the US were either Spanish or Native Peoples' land when we first ran into them.

& after absorbing the Native Peoples, French, Germans, Dutch, Italians, Jews, Catholics, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, Black, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Hmong & lots & lots of other peoples along the way - it's far too late to be crying Nativist.

 

[Mac1958]

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Well, the answer here is obvious.

Expecting people who live and work in America to actually understand fundamental English might hurt their feelings. It's up to us to make life easier for these people by accomodating them in any way possible, no matter what. Their feelings should never be hurt. It's in the Constitution, look it up.

People who move to, live in, and work in America shouldn't have to assimilate until they're damn good and ready to, if ever. Expectations and standards aren't fair and should be discouraged and/or avoided at all times.

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