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It looks like both tax ID and Social Security numbers may apply to temporary workers. I guess it depends on the nature of the job, depending whether they obtain a SS or tax ID number? Not sure?Not to mention that non-resident aliens are also issued SS cards when they're hired for seasonal work (like picking fruit). They have to file taxes, so they need a SS number.
I think they are issued tax ID numbers, but I could be wrong.
I believe you are correct. However, most illegals are "borrowing" the social security number of a citizen. The government is well aware of the problem, but do nothing. The IRS cannot notify people when their number is being used. They act like it's none of our business because the numbers belong to government, not us. Of course, if an illegal alien using your number owes taxes, you are held responsible.
Yes, it's time to ensure that only citizens vote. If illegals can use our numbers, sign up for Obamacare and receive welfare, they can damn sure vote. We all need to re-register with proof of citizenship. Everyone, even the poor, have birth certificates.
In the United States, a Social Security number (SSN) is a nine-digit number issued to U.S. citizens, permanent residents, and temporary (working) residents under section 205(c)(2) of the Social Security Act, codified as 42 U.S.C. § 405(c)(2).
How many cases of voter fraud were reported in 2012?
Yeah, that's actually not correct but Republicans are so in love with the idea that millions of people cheat in each election so they run with it without understanding what the claims are.How many cases of voter fraud were reported in 2012?
North Carolina Board of Elections found over 35,000 cases of people with same first name, last name, date of birth and last 4 of ss# who voted in North Carolina and at least one other state, Comrade. Think 35,000 votes can't make a difference?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=..._4USTSP18ylyKO4Qg&sig2=kzPan7fhm-epKX-UFOOECw
The source of that joy is a Wednesday report by Kim Strach, executive director of the N.C. Board of Elections. Strachs office did a cross-check of voters in 28 states and found 765 registered voters who shared identifying information name, date of birth, and last four digits of Social Security number with voters in another state. Thousands more shared first and last names, plus birth dates.
Slam dunk. Voter fraud. Right?
Not exactly. The report doesnt say why those names are on the rolls of two states. Strach told a legislative oversight committee that she doesnt know yet. It could be that people registered to vote in a new state without telling their former state they had left. It could be that those who shared names and birth dates merely had common names. It could be that in the rush of an election, precinct workers made mistakes marking who voted.
N.C. voter fraud! (Or maybe not.) | CharlotteObserver.com
RALEIGH, N.C. -
One of the more compelling arguments for voter identification is the suppression of voter fraud. But for North Carolina, the number of cases of voter fraud reported by the state Board of Elections is minimal.
In 2012, nearly 7 million ballots were cast in the general and two primary elections. Of those 6,947,317 ballots, the state Board of Elections said 121 alleged cases of voter fraud were referred to the appropriate district attorney's office.
That means of the nearly 7 million votes cast, voter fraud accounted for 0.00174 percent of the ballots.
Looking back at the 2010 election cycle -- which was not a presidential year -- 3.79 million ballots were cast and only 28 cases of voter fraud were turned over to the appropriate DA's office. So in 2010, voter fraud accounted for 0.000738 percent of ballots cast.
Widespread voter fraud not an issue in NC, data shows - WNCN: News, Weather
In November 2011, I telephoned the N.C. Board of Elections in Raleigh, requesting documentation on the number of suspected fraud cases in N.C. by year starting in 2000 through 2010. In response to my inquiry, I received a chart listing types of voter fraud, the number of cases referred to respective district attorneys office by type for each year 2000 through 2010.
Additionally, the letter related the State Board of Elections, to the greatest extent permitted by resources, investigates all allegations of voter fraud. Most allegations prove to be unfounded, lack criminal intent, or cannot be substantiated; however, we refer matters to the appropriate district attorneys office for their consideration. This is, incidentally, consistent with a five-year voter fraud study, 2000 through 2007, conducted by the US Department of Justice, President George W. Bush Administration.
Conclusion: There were 86 suspected fraud cases found out of 300 million votes cast. FACT: There is no substantiated evidence that voter fraud has compromised the integrity of our election process, state or national.
COLUMN: Upon examination, voter fraud in NC is rare - Columns - Gaston Gazette
How about they start putting your picture on your Social Security card? That would solve the problem. Of course, it would mean people having to go get their picture taken, which is far easier than registering to vote or going to the polls and shouldn't be an issue. I know the libs think some people cannot accomplish such a difficult task. I suppose ACORN could organize some bus trips and make sure people get where they need to go.
Thing is, if people would be willing to go get their pic taken for their SS cards, they might as well go into the DMV and get a free picture ID. We should offer them for free if they are needed for voting. It's okay, the rest of us are used to paying for everything already.
Bill Clinton says he doesn't have a problem with photo IDs to vote and offered this unusual solution. Hillary might push for it as well. So, Dems, what say you?
Bill Clinton Offers a Voter ID Solution That We Can All Agree On?
How many cases of voter fraud were reported in 2012?
Since you can't find any cases of voter fraud then that must mean that millions of voters outsmarted the legal system, right? So millions of "dumbocraps" cheated the system and voted illegally to elect Obama so he could redistribute all of the wealth from the poor to the rich?How many cases of voter fraud were reported in 2012?
How much effort did law enforcement or the voter board put toward actually finding it or ensuring it did not happen..
Kinda like asking a cop how many speeders he got while sitting with his free donut and coffee on break
How many cases of voter fraud were reported in 2012?
North Carolina Board of Elections found over 35,000 cases of people with same first name, last name, date of birth and last 4 of ss# who voted in North Carolina and at least one other state, Comrade. Think 35,000 votes can't make a difference?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=..._4USTSP18ylyKO4Qg&sig2=kzPan7fhm-epKX-UFOOECw
Yeah, that's actually not correct but Republicans are so in love with the idea that millions of people cheat in each election so they run with it without understanding what the claims are.How many cases of voter fraud were reported in 2012?
North Carolina Board of Elections found over 35,000 cases of people with same first name, last name, date of birth and last 4 of ss# who voted in North Carolina and at least one other state, Comrade. Think 35,000 votes can't make a difference?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=..._4USTSP18ylyKO4Qg&sig2=kzPan7fhm-epKX-UFOOECw
RALEIGH, N.C. -
One of the more compelling arguments for voter identification is the suppression of voter fraud. But for North Carolina, the number of cases of voter fraud reported by the state Board of Elections is minimal.
In 2012, nearly 7 million ballots were cast in the general and two primary elections. Of those 6,947,317 ballots, the state Board of Elections said 121 alleged cases of voter fraud were referred to the appropriate district attorney's office.
That means of the nearly 7 million votes cast, voter fraud accounted for 0.00174 percent of the ballots.
Looking back at the 2010 election cycle -- which was not a presidential year -- 3.79 million ballots were cast and only 28 cases of voter fraud were turned over to the appropriate DA's office. So in 2010, voter fraud accounted for 0.000738 percent of ballots cast.
Widespread voter fraud not an issue in NC, data shows - WNCN: News, Weather
In November 2011, I telephoned the N.C. Board of Elections in Raleigh, requesting documentation on the number of suspected fraud cases in N.C. by year starting in 2000 through 2010. In response to my inquiry, I received a chart listing types of voter fraud, the number of cases referred to respective district attorneys office by type for each year 2000 through 2010.
Additionally, the letter related the State Board of Elections, to the greatest extent permitted by resources, investigates all allegations of voter fraud. Most allegations prove to be unfounded, lack criminal intent, or cannot be substantiated; however, we refer matters to the appropriate district attorneys office for their consideration. This is, incidentally, consistent with a five-year voter fraud study, 2000 through 2007, conducted by the US Department of Justice, President George W. Bush Administration.
Conclusion: There were 86 suspected fraud cases found out of 300 million votes cast. FACT: There is no substantiated evidence that voter fraud has compromised the integrity of our election process, state or national.
COLUMN: Upon examination, voter fraud in NC is rare - Columns - Gaston Gazette
But none of that matters because yokels are going to believe whatever they want to believe, regardless of facts or evidence. Like the Bible.
Voter ID is in no need of a solution, and there is no problem, thats what you and others on the right refuse to understand, what you and others on the right remain willfully ignorant of for purely partisan reasons.Solution to Voter ID?
Voter fraud by identity is a non-issue, it is virtually nonexistent, as no elections outcome has been altered as a consequence of voter fraud.
Absent any evidence in support of voter ID, it manifests an unwarranted burden to the fundamental right to vote.
Citizens are required to document their identity when they register to vote, subsequent to that they should be allowed to vote absent interference by the state.
How about they start putting your picture on your Social Security card? That would solve the problem. Of course, it would mean people having to go get their picture taken, which is far easier than registering to vote or going to the polls and shouldn't be an issue. I know the libs think some people cannot accomplish such a difficult task. I suppose ACORN could organize some bus trips and make sure people get where they need to go.
Thing is, if people would be willing to go get their pic taken for their SS cards, they might as well go into the DMV and get a free picture ID. We should offer them for free if they are needed for voting. It's okay, the rest of us are used to paying for everything already.
Bill Clinton says he doesn't have a problem with photo IDs to vote and offered this unusual solution. Hillary might push for it as well. So, Dems, what say you?
Bill Clinton Offers a Voter ID Solution That We Can All Agree On?
How about they start putting your picture on your Social Security card? That would solve the problem. Of course, it would mean people having to go get their picture taken, which is far easier than registering to vote or going to the polls and shouldn't be an issue. I know the libs think some people cannot accomplish such a difficult task. I suppose ACORN could organize some bus trips and make sure people get where they need to go.
Thing is, if people would be willing to go get their pic taken for their SS cards, they might as well go into the DMV and get a free picture ID. We should offer them for free if they are needed for voting. It's okay, the rest of us are used to paying for everything already.
Bill Clinton says he doesn't have a problem with photo IDs to vote and offered this unusual solution. Hillary might push for it as well. So, Dems, what say you?
Bill Clinton Offers a Voter ID Solution That We Can All Agree On?
How about they start putting your picture on your Social Security card? That would solve the problem. Of course, it would mean people having to go get their picture taken, which is far easier than registering to vote or going to the polls and shouldn't be an issue. I know the libs think some people cannot accomplish such a difficult task. I suppose ACORN could organize some bus trips and make sure people get where they need to go.
Thing is, if people would be willing to go get their pic taken for their SS cards, they might as well go into the DMV and get a free picture ID. We should offer them for free if they are needed for voting. It's okay, the rest of us are used to paying for everything already.
Bill Clinton says he doesn't have a problem with photo IDs to vote and offered this unusual solution. Hillary might push for it as well. So, Dems, what say you?
Bill Clinton Offers a Voter ID Solution That We Can All Agree On?
How about they start putting your picture on your Social Security card? That would solve the problem. Of course, it would mean people having to go get their picture taken, which is far easier than registering to vote or going to the polls and shouldn't be an issue. I know the libs think some people cannot accomplish such a difficult task. I suppose ACORN could organize some bus trips and make sure people get where they need to go.
Thing is, if people would be willing to go get their pic taken for their SS cards, they might as well go into the DMV and get a free picture ID. We should offer them for free if they are needed for voting. It's okay, the rest of us are used to paying for everything already.
Bill Clinton says he doesn't have a problem with photo IDs to vote and offered this unusual solution. Hillary might push for it as well. So, Dems, what say you?
Bill Clinton Offers a Voter ID Solution That We Can All Agree On?
Social security cards are issued at birth now, I don't think a photo would be much help, children change so much. Plus resident aliens are issued cards and their not eligible to vote. Nothing wrong with the way it's being done.
LOL, that's probably why Clinton came up with this. I don't think any kind of ID is going to stop cheating since it's not really the people walking into the polls to vote that cause the problem. It's cheating within the system, from dishonest poll workers to those counting the votes.
Everyone should be required to re-register prior to the next election and no more motor voter registration. That method only insures millions of legal ballots that only about 30% of the legal voters will bother to use. That's a lot of extra ballots to play around with and not worry about getting caught.
Until people admit where the real cheating is and address it, don't expect our voting system to be honest and fair.
Presuming for the moment, you;re asking me...How many documented cases of voter fraud were there in 2012?
It's irrelevant that you're trying to fix a problem that you can't even prove is a problem? Someone has to be able to point to widespread evidence of voter fraud to be able to constantly complain that voter fraud is a widespread problem that requires immediate attention.Presuming for the moment, you;re asking me...How many documented cases of voter fraud were there in 2012?
Irrelevant. The compelling interest exists regarless.
Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted announced Wednesday that his office found 17 non-citizens illegally cast ballots in the 2012 presidential election -- and has referred the case for possible prosecution.
The alleged crime would be a notable case of voter fraud in a key swing state. By law, only American citizens are allowed the privilege of casting ballots for the nation's leaders.
Ohio officials say that did not stop some from getting around the system.
"I have a responsibility to uphold election law, and under both federal and state law you must be a citizen to vote," said Husted, a Republican who has aggressively tried to investigate voter fraud cases in his state.
Husted also found that 274 non-citizens remain on the voting rolls.
President Obama beat Mitt Romney in Ohio by just 2 percentage points in November 2012.
As part of Ohio's efforts to clean up the voting rolls, election officials discovered that more than 257,000 dead people were still listed as active voters. Their names and status, Husted said, have since been removed.
Melowese Richardson, 58, is serving five years in prison after being convicted of four counts of voter fraud. Prosecutors said she repeatedly had voted in the name of her sister, who has been in a coma since 2003, and that the illegal votes Richardson cast were counted in both the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. She also was accused of illegally voting in November's election in the names of other people, including her granddaughter India Richardson, who told Fox News that "it wasn't a big deal."
