Solution to Voter ID?

[KNB]

Dumbfuck....so you claim there has never been any voter fraud in the US.

You have proven you are irrelevant here.

North Carolina Republican House Speaker Thom Tillis said that there isn't any widespread voter fraud in North Carolina.

Would you care to refute the Republican House Speaker of North Carolina?

 

[1776]

Shitstain...you claim there is NO FRAUD then move the goalposts to "no widespread fraud."

Typical piece of shit.

Oh, you need to explain how all those Democrap voters are oppressed not being able to drive a car, get a beer, board a plane, cash a check....since you claim they don't have IDs.

But at least their crackdealer doesn't ask for ID, I'm sure you know.

Dumbfuck....so you claim there has never been any voter fraud in the US.

You have proven you are irrelevant here.

North Carolina Republican House Speaker Thom Tillis said that there isn't any widespread voter fraud in North Carolina.

Would you care to refute the Republican House Speaker of North Carolina?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Presuming for the moment, you;re asking me...
Irrelevant. The compelling interest exists regarless.

It's irrelevant that you're trying to fix a problem that you can't even prove is a problem? Someone has to be able to point to widespread evidence of voter fraud to be able to constantly complain that voter fraud is a widespread problem that requires immediate attention.

If you can find even a thousand documented cases of voter fraud, nationwide, since 2000, out of a population of 300m+, then it isn't a problem that requires immediate attention.

So what is the real reason that so many Conservatives want voter ID laws if it isn't to stop voter fraud since voter fraud in virtually non-existent?

If you can find one case of voter fraud, that is one case too many, and requires a solution.

Nonsense.

Particularly when that one case of fraud did not alter the outcome of any election.

Those seeking to commit fraud should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, where the suspect is afforded comprehensive due process. But such a prosecution should be predicated on facts and evidence and on a case by case basis, not under a ‘presumption of guilt’ as most on the right advocate.

Moreover, rare and isolated incidents of fraud, where the outcome of no election has been altered, and the will of the voters is respected, does not constitute sufficient evidence in support of manifesting an unwarranted, undue burden to the fundamental right to vote, such as requiring a voter to provide a state-issued photo ID when he has already registered to vote, has already documented his identity and citizenship, and where his name remains on the voter registration logs as an eligible voter.

 

[rightwinger]

Stupid fuck white trash....the state of NC just did an audit and found THOUSANDS of voter fraud cases.

Only a piece of shit like you would come on the internet claiming nobody has ever forged a name at a polling place or via absentee ballots when Democraps have had dead people voting in Chicago for decades.

Shitbag....uh it's called forgery.

Oh look someone signed your name on a check....so you're ok with it.

Do it

Walk up to a polling place and make a perfect forgery of a signature

If it is so easy.....why hasn't it been done over the last 200 years?


Where is your voter fraud? Where at the thousands of people walking up to the polls only to find someone has already voted in their name?

Fact is, there are none

None were related to improper ID stupidfuck

Try again

 

[rightwinger]

I have a solution to voter ID

signatures.....been working for 200 years

Illiterate people are disenfranchised?

That should go over well....

I agree signatures are not the solution. Too many illiterate folks out there. They would simply mark an "X" in lieu of their signature. Anyone wanting to committ voter fraud could just claim illiteracy and mark an "X".

How many people have you met in your lifetime that sign their name with an X

I haven't met one yet

 

[KNB]

Shitstain...you claim there is NO FRAUD then move the goalposts to "no widespread fraud."

Typical piece of shit.

Oh, you need to explain how all those Democrap voters are oppressed not being able to drive a car, get a beer, board a plane, cash a check....since you claim they don't have IDs.

But at least their crackdealer doesn't ask for ID, I'm sure you know.

Would you care to refute the Republican House Speaker of North Carolina?

 

[rightwinger]

Presuming for the moment, you;re asking me...
Irrelevant. The compelling interest exists regarless.

It's irrelevant that you're trying to fix a problem that you can't even prove is a problem? Someone has to be able to point to widespread evidence of voter fraud to be able to constantly complain that voter fraud is a widespread problem that requires immediate attention.

If you can find even a thousand documented cases of voter fraud, nationwide, since 2000, out of a population of 300m+, then it isn't a problem that requires immediate attention.

So what is the real reason that so many Conservatives want voter ID laws if it isn't to stop voter fraud since voter fraud in virtually non-existent?

If you can find one case of voter fraud, that is one case too many, and requires a solution. You, and the Democrat party's continuous assertion that dead people have the right to vote, is total BS. And, that is true regardless of who these dead people are voting for. Multiple voting and dead people voting are minor aspects of the problem, but one that can be easily fixed with a requirement for a photo ID.

Many states already have a requirement for voters to have photo IDs, and there is no valid reason why that should not apply to the rest.

We don't know how much voter fraud exists, because the cost of investigating it is a budget buster for most county election supervisors. Consequently, voter fraud is easy to accomplish, difficult to detect, and has relatively minor consequences if one is caught doing it. And that means that it is highly likely to be occurring, and very likely to be occurring on a massive scale.

Absentee balloting is a much bigger problem, and allows people to vote in multiple states. Computer matching between states has shown this to be a major problem resulting in possibly millions of double voting. Not to mention the fact that many of those absentee ballots do not come from the people whose names appear on them.

Yes, we do have substantial voter fraud, and we have no concept of just how broad and deep it goes.

At what cost?

Is it worth it to prevent one thousand people from voting just to prevent one possible voter fraud?

 

[1776]

Liberal logic...

No ID = No voter fraud
No ID = No underage drinking
No ID = No illegal driving
No ID = No illegal bank transactions

 

[1776]

We understand white trash like you needs to keep with this lie since you are a criminal that votes 2-3 times to keep your welfare goodies coming.

Stupid fuck white trash....the state of NC just did an audit and found THOUSANDS of voter fraud cases.

Only a piece of shit like you would come on the internet claiming nobody has ever forged a name at a polling place or via absentee ballots when Democraps have had dead people voting in Chicago for decades.

Do it

Walk up to a polling place and make a perfect forgery of a signature

If it is so easy.....why hasn't it been done over the last 200 years?


Where is your voter fraud? Where at the thousands of people walking up to the polls only to find someone has already voted in their name?

Fact is, there are none

None were related to improper ID stupidfuck

Try again

 

[rightwinger]

Shitbag....uh it's called forgery.

Oh look someone signed your name on a check....so you're ok with it.

Do it

Walk up to a polling place and make a perfect forgery of a signature

If it is so easy.....why hasn't it been done over the last 200 years?


Where is your voter fraud? Where at the thousands of people walking up to the polls only to find someone has already voted in their name?

Fact is, there are none

Exactly.

Hence the fact voter ‘fraud’ by identity is a myth, a contrivance of the partisan right who take as an article of religious faith that republicans are losing elections as a consequence of ‘fraud,’ when in fact republicans are losing elections because voters are rejecting their failed policies and agenda.

The propaganda arm of the Republican Party, Foxnews would be all over a single case of someone showing up to vote and finding someone had voted in their name

They have yet to do a single story

 

[KNB]

Liberal logic...

No ID = No voter fraud
No ID = No underage drinking
No ID = No illegal driving
No ID = No illegal bank transactions

Would Teabagger logic be, "IDs don't stop underage drinking or drunk driving but it will definitely stop voter fraud that doesn't exist in the first place"?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Liberal logic...

No ID = No voter fraud
No ID = No underage drinking
No ID = No illegal driving
No ID = No illegal bank transactions

Conservative ignorance.

Driving a car, buying beer, or engaging in banking transactions aren’t fundamental Constitutional rights.

Voting is.

 

[1776]

Cocksucker...I don't fully support the Tea Party, shut the fuck up.

So you admit people violate the law regarding IDs, yet claim they won't violate the law when it is easier without an ID....

Why is it ok to ask for someone's ID driving their car? Just take their word for it, or have them sign something, eh idiot?

Liberal logic...

No ID = No voter fraud
No ID = No underage drinking
No ID = No illegal driving
No ID = No illegal bank transactions

Would Teabagger logic be, "IDs don't stop underage drinking or drunk driving but it will definitely stop voter fraud that doesn't exist in the first place"?

 

[Moonglow]

I like the idea of dying the thumb after voting..

 

[KNB]

So you admit people violate the law regarding IDs, yet claim they won't violate the law when it is easier without an ID....

No. I said that voter IDs will not stop voter fraud because voter fraud is not a relevant problem in the first place. The North Carolina Republican House Speaker agrees with me.

It's not about stopping voter fraud, it's about stopping as many voters as possible who don't vote Republican. Every argument that you give is complete fucking bullshit. Everyone knows the truth except for Republican Teabaggers who keep claiming that the lack of evidence of widespread voter fraud is proof of widespread voter fraud.

 

[1776]

Shitstain...so ensuring someone's 1 vote fully counts by only allowing legal US resident voters to vote once....doesn't mean shit to scum like you.

You're ok if some felon, illegal, etc steals their vote by voting more than once or actually uses their name and votes in their place.

Requring an ID to determine the people elected to actually create laws regarding voting, drinking alcohol, driving a car, etc....is too deep for your inferior ape brain.

No ID required to verify someone's vote regarding people put in charge of a city, state or the nation.....insane. Most countries view that as insane.

Liberal logic...

No ID = No voter fraud
No ID = No underage drinking
No ID = No illegal driving
No ID = No illegal bank transactions

Conservative ignorance.

Driving a car, buying beer, or engaging in banking transactions aren’t fundamental Constitutional rights.

Voting is.

 

[1776]

Criminal...you support other criminals violating the law, we get it.

You claim because some "adult" buys booze for teens that means IDs to buy alcohol should banned. If that adult doesn't buy them booze, then goodluck to those teens walking out of the store with booze without an ID.

I bet you think it is RACIST to ask for IDs to cash your welfare check....

So you admit people violate the law regarding IDs, yet claim they won't violate the law when it is easier without an ID....

No. I said that voter IDs will not stop voter fraud because voter fraud is not a relevant problem in the first place. The North Carolina Republican House Speaker agrees with me.

It's not about stopping voter fraud, it's about stopping as many voters as possible who don't vote Republican. Every argument that you give is complete fucking bullshit. Everyone knows the truth except for Republican Teabaggers who keep claiming that the lack of evidence of widespread voter fraud is proof of widespread voter fraud.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Shitstain...so ensuring someone's 1 vote fully counts by only allowing legal US resident voters to vote once....doesn't mean shit to scum like you.

You're ok if some felon, illegal, etc steals their vote by voting more than once or actually uses their name and votes in their place.

Requring an ID to determine the people elected to actually create laws regarding voting, drinking alcohol, driving a car, etc....is too deep for your inferior ape brain.

No ID required to verify someone's vote regarding people put in charge of a city, state or the nation.....insane. Most countries view that as insane.

Liberal logic...

No ID = No voter fraud
No ID = No underage drinking
No ID = No illegal driving
No ID = No illegal bank transactions

Conservative ignorance.

Driving a car, buying beer, or engaging in banking transactions aren’t fundamental Constitutional rights.

Voting is.

None of which has anything to do with the fact that voting is a fundamental right and the other activities you note requiring a state-issued photo ID are not.

 

[KNB]

Criminal...you support other criminals violating the law, we get it.

You claim because some "adult" buys booze for teens that means IDs to buy alcohol should banned. If that adult doesn't buy them booze, then goodluck to those teens walking out of the store with booze without an ID.

I bet you think it is RACIST to ask for IDs to cash your welfare check....

I didn't claim that IDs should be banned or that teenagers should drink alcohol. I said that all of your bullshit about voter fraud is complete bullshit because there isn't any widespread voter fraud in the first place.

 

[1776]

Why does OBAMACARE require IDs.....you stupid mother fuckers.