So you love socialism ?????

[BULLDOG]

Only because Sweden cut back on their social programs which both of our parties refuse to do.

BULLSHIT. Sweden is much better at taking care of their citizens than we are.

They cut back. They unlike us they balanced their budget.
How Sweden created a model economy | sweden.se

I did not say anything about how much better or not better they were with their social programs.
I personally would rather have what I work for rather than giving the government 57% or so of it.
That is the basic premises of what America is all about.
Low taxes, less Federal government.

Scandinavia Isn’t A Socialist Paradise

The Federalist? You're kidding, right?

Just as good as any of the lefts sites.

That's funny.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The elephant in the room is the fact Socialism has never worked....never in history

Countries with no socialism whatsoever have never worked either.

First, leftwing turds like you claim there are no such countries, so how can you possible make that claim? The less government interferes in the economy, the better a country does economically. That's what the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom shows, and that's what history shows.

There are no such countries? Gee, if it's such a good idea to have no socialist institutions, you'd think that sort of nation would be common.

 

[peach174]

we ain't cut back on permanent war and profligate expenditures on war weapons ...

Because that is the main purpose of our Federal Government.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The elephant in the room is the fact Socialism has never worked....never in history

Countries with no socialism whatsoever have never worked either.

That was a really stupid response, Dumb Deer

European Democratic Socialism is working just fine.

 

[NYcarbineer]

we ain't cut back on permanent war and profligate expenditures on war weapons ...

Because that is the main purpose of our Federal Government.

Permanent war and profligate defense spending are the main purpose of the Federal Government.

That's all you need to know about the neocon warmonger Right.

 

[bripat9643]

OK, ok Nat. If Socialism is sooo wonderful, then tell all of us which nation under a Socialist government has economically kicked our ass, and has lower prices for their goods than we do!

I am not speaking of services, I am speaking of goods. Why? Because the money saved on goods more than pays for the higher rate on services.

You have the floor Nat, we want your input to prove your theory! Show us all!

Well, I could write a long thesis in just addressing your question.....

First, I never stated that "socialism is sooo wonderful"...Most of us sane folks want to mitigate the often oppressive extortion of raw capitalism with a healthy dose of social and ethical incentives...

What "oppressive extortion of raw capitalism?"

Second, it is indeed true that our IPads and IPhones are cheaper than what a Dane or a Swede shells out for the same product.....So, despite the "heartache" of having to spend more for a Samsung product, that average Dane and Swede may have to contend with a longer life span, less morbidity with their health status and an overall "happiness" rating three times higher than the average Alabaman or Okie.

Oh, the tragedy of it all, don't you think?

Their better health has nothing to do with the quality of their healthcare system. It has to do with the fact that they aren't inundated with refugees from every third world country, and with the fact that they don't have a permanent underclass of people who were raised in the government plantation.

 

[bripat9643]

There are elements of "socialism" in America. Obviously. Always have been, always will be.

The question is the degree. Where we exist on the overall spectrum.

You're not "not socialist" one day, then "socialist" the next.

Conservatives are convincing people that "socialism" is good by attacking "socialist" elements that people like.

How in the world do they not see this?
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"Socialism" is at the root of our calling ourselves UNITED States......

That's pathetic.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The elephant in the room is the fact Socialism has never worked....never in history

Countries with no socialism whatsoever have never worked either.

That was a really stupid response, Dumb Deer

European Democratic Socialism is working just fine.

I love how you change the name to make it all better, socialism has never worked....and never will. It's just a fact

 

[nat4900]

E Pluribus Unum ? out of many, one (the motto of the US).

Heck we fought a long and ultra-bloody Civil War on behalf of social unity.

 

[peach174]

If they are doing so fine, why do some want to move?
150 Million Adults Worldwide Would Migrate to the U.S.

150 million want to move to America from their social and communist countries.
Why are we moving towards it?

How many of them are from Sweden?

It says in the link.

No it doesn't. Read your own damn link.

Only 1% want to move to Sweden and 23% want to come to America.
If it is so great why does only 1% want to move there?

Sweden is doing just fine.
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Sweden is a capitalist country. See all those products on the shelves? They were produced by private companies and corporations. The store itself is owned by a private corporation. The government takes no part in the business of supplying the population with food.

You were saying?

So you'tr saying the proper blend of capitalist and socialist programs is a good thing? I agree. We just went too far to the capitalist side, and need to move the other way some.

We went to far on both sides.

 

[bripat9643]

Harry is not giving them Hell...Hell No...Harry tells them the Truth and "they think its Hell"

You quoted Harry telling a big fat Democrat lie.

 

[thanatos144]

Sweden is doing just fine.
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So posting random pictures of a supermarket is your argument ?


Lmao......

Swedish supermarkets.

With American labels? Lmao

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You actually think Sweden doesn't have the same products we do? That's just dumb.

Not in English dipshit

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[BULLDOG]

If they are doing so fine, why do some want to move?
150 Million Adults Worldwide Would Migrate to the U.S.

150 million want to move to America from their social and communist countries.
Why are we moving towards it?

How many of them are from Sweden?

It says in the link.

No it doesn't. Read your own damn link.

Only 1% want to move to Sweden and 23% want to come to America.
If it is so great why does only 1% want to move there?

whats up with that

sounds like the lefties have been trying to bs everyone again

i saw that in the link as well

--LOL

No BS. The link says how many want to move to Sweden. he poster implied Sweden citizens wanted to move here.

 

[bripat9643]

E Pluribus Unum ? out of many, one (the motto of the US).

Heck we fought a long and ultra-bloody Civil War on behalf of social unity.

And you're proud of that? 850,000 people killed just so half of them would remain within some arbitrary political boundary?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

If someone had floated the idea of socialism to the Founding Fathers they would have looked at them like they had worms coming out their ears

 

[bripat9643]

"Socialism" is at the root of our calling ourselves UNITED States......

E Pluribus Unum ? out of many, one (the motto of the US).

So?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The elephant in the room is the fact Socialism has never worked....never in history

Countries with no socialism whatsoever have never worked either.

That was a really stupid response, Dumb Deer

European Democratic Socialism is working just fine.

I love how you change the name to make it all better, socialism has never worked....and never will. It's just a fact

Socialism works just fine, if you do it right. Like all economic systems it has its failings which is why countries you'd call socialist are usually mixed economies, as are we only they, in general, do it better than we do.

This dogma that socialism never works is simply annoying, and utterly untrue.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If someone had floated the idea of socialism to the Founding Fathers they would have looked at them like they had worms coming out their ears

Think so huh?

1. “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
— Thomas Jefferson, 1802 letter to Secretary of State Albert Gallatin.

2. “I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
— Thomas Jefferson.

3. “The power of all corporations ought to be limited, […] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.”
— James Madison

 

[peach174]

we ain't cut back on permanent war and profligate expenditures on war weapons ...

Because that is the main purpose of our Federal Government.

Permanent war and profligate defense spending are the main purpose of the Federal Government.

That's all you need to know about the neocon warmonger Right.

It would not be permanent if we were allowed to wipe out the numbers of Muslim terrorists and keep them small.

 

[BULLDOG]

Sweden is doing just fine.
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So posting random pictures of a supermarket is your argument ?


Lmao......

Swedish supermarkets.

With American labels? Lmao

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You actually think Sweden doesn't have the same products we do? That's just dumb.

Not in English dipshit

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Yes, in English. There are English labeled products on the shelves of every country in the world, just like there are Spanish labels at the grocery store here. It's called export.