Snopes Confirmed: Obama's agenda is to Overwhelm the system

[St.Blues]

snopes.com: Obama's Agenda: Overwhelm the System

Rahm Emanuel cynically said, "You never want a crisis to go to waste." It is now becoming clear that the crisis he was referring to is Barack Obama's presidency.

Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.Â

Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

(click link for the list of things)

With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.

Full article: Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com <---i did cut a few things out in the quote above so if you want to see it all click it.

Lets discuss the article.

Obama is a face... An aggressive face.. He's controlled by International Wealth.
He's not in this alone... All of DC is part of it and their cheerleaders are the media.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

More proof that cons are stupid. What Snopes is confirming here isn't that Obama is trying to overwhelm the system, what they are confirming is that somebody wrote an opinion piece about it. I certainly hope somebody has already bought this up

Yes and people said this guy didn't know obama ever and wasn't his friend or anything in college, yet snopes confirmed that he was and wrote this about obama.

There was a list of claims in the article, do you feel one of this guy's claims are wrong about obama?

Which claim? Tell me why you think its wrong, and we can discuss just like I asked to do in the first post.

 

[Hope_and_change]

As Glenn has shown over the past few weeks, President Obama has a real problem with the truth:. Whether it's stories about doctors cutting off feet and ripping out tonsils for money or even the story about his mom's battle with health insurance companies -- a growing number of his stories end up being false. Obama's speech on the ongoing debt last night was no exception as he came up with an interesting, yet not true, analysis of the economic situation America finds herself in. Read more at GlennBeck.com.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

snopes.com: Obama's Agenda: Overwhelm the System



Full article: Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com <---i did cut a few things out in the quote above so if you want to see it all click it.

Lets discuss the article.

PP? Are you getting stupider lately?

What snopes confirmed is that the person attributed for writing the opinion piece did in fact write it.

What a stupid article. It claims that Obama is overwhelming the system with demand for entitlements. He has cut Medicare reimbursements and plans to cut it more. By stopping Social Security COLA, he's actually cut into Social Security. The deficit spending has been due to the recession, and unfunded wars and programs he inherited.

The "cuts" he made to medicare are actually overrun by the "spending" on the same program in The health care bill.

He has far surpassed even the spendaholic Bush in his annual spending thus far. Our spending and debt growth are reaching a rate that we, as a country, cant sustain for much longer. Then obama proposes even more govt spending and programs in other area's when we are already broke. The dots dont seem that far apart to me.

If Obama wanted he could end afghanistan and iraq and could have drawn down years ago when he took over but he didn't, instead he got us into a 3rd conflict with libya.

The above is where what I've seen in the last 3 years (almost) conflicts with what you said, below is a seperate question for you.


Bush was in recession too yet his defecit spending, while atrocious, was so much less than obama's......how do you explain this vast difference?

 

[L.K.Eder]

More proof that cons are stupid. What Snopes is confirming here isn't that Obama is trying to overwhelm the system, what they are confirming is that somebody wrote an opinion piece about it. I certainly hope somebody has already bought this up

Yes and people said this guy didn't know obama ever and wasn't his friend or anything in college, yet snopes confirmed that he was and wrote this about obama.

There was a list of claims in the article, do you feel one of this guy's claims are wrong about obama?

Which claim? Tell me why you think its wrong, and we can discuss just like I asked to do in the first post.

read the snopes article again, they do not confirm what you say they are.

 

[BlindBoo]

Snopes most certainly did not confirm this in any way shape or form, and your link goes to a snope page about some one else's opinion peice and not the President.

Typical however, it will rouse the wacko's

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

No vote has raised the debt level by 9 trillion.

Do you understand what you wrote? Did they have a smaller debt ceiling vote that increased the debt to 9 trillion. DUH!!!!

House and Senate Republicans (except the 4 House Republicans and 5 Senate Republicans who voted nay) voted to raise the debt ceiling from $14.294 trillion to $23.102 trillion: a nearly $9 trillion increase to accommodate the additional debt wracked up by their budget over the next decade.

A picture speaks a thousand words sometimes, in this case its 10,000

 

[Ravi]

More proof that cons are stupid. What Snopes is confirming here isn't that Obama is trying to overwhelm the system, what they are confirming is that somebody wrote an opinion piece about it. I certainly hope somebody has already bought this up

Yes and people said this guy didn't know obama ever and wasn't his friend or anything in college, yet snopes confirmed that he was and wrote this about obama.

There was a list of claims in the article, do you feel one of this guy's claims are wrong about obama?

Which claim? Tell me why you think its wrong, and we can discuss just like I asked to do in the first post.

read the snopes article again, they do not confirm what you say they are.

Next up, the toilet cleaning crew that worked at Columbia in 1983.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Yes and people said this guy didn't know obama ever and wasn't his friend or anything in college, yet snopes confirmed that he was and wrote this about obama.

There was a list of claims in the article, do you feel one of this guy's claims are wrong about obama?

Which claim? Tell me why you think its wrong, and we can discuss just like I asked to do in the first post.

read the snopes article again, they do not confirm what you say they are.

Next up, the toilet cleaning crew that worked at Columbia in 1983.

why are you attacking the messenger, ravi.

why

WHY!

 

[ba1614]

As Glenn has shown over the past few weeks, President Obama has a real problem with the truth:. Whether it's stories about doctors cutting off feet and ripping out tonsils for money or even the story about his mom's battle with health insurance companies -- a growing number of his stories end up being false. Obama's speech on the ongoing debt last night was no exception as he came up with an interesting, yet not true, analysis of the economic situation America finds herself in. Read more at GlennBeck.com.

The obama bullshits so much he doesn't know when he's telling the truth.

 

[St.Blues]

House and Senate Republicans (except the 4 House Republicans and 5 Senate Republicans who voted nay) voted to raise the debt ceiling from $14.294 trillion to $23.102 trillion: a nearly $9 trillion increase to accommodate the additional debt wracked up by their budget over the next decade.

A picture speaks a thousand words sometimes, in this case its 10,000

Yes, and while all this is going on US Senator Jack Reed continues to investigate Sun Tan oil companies. What a man!

 

[LibocalypseNow]

It's the Community Organizer way. It's all in Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals.' Chaos and division is what all Community Organizers seek to create. This President loves this. The man wont even present his own Debt plan. What kind of President doesn't step up and present their own plan? All he's done so far is criticize & insult others' plans. It's a good lesson learned for Americans. Don't elect inexperienced Marxist Community Organizers as Presidents in the future. This is what you get.

 

[Ravi]

read the snopes article again, they do not confirm what you say they are.

Next up, the toilet cleaning crew that worked at Columbia in 1983.

why are you attacking the messenger, ravi.

why

WHY!

I have relatives living in Texas. Ron Paul is a senator from Texas. Therefore, the following is true:

Ron Paul wishes to become president so he can implement his plan to breed humans with hamsters.

Snopes will verify that I wrote this.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Next up, the toilet cleaning crew that worked at Columbia in 1983.

why are you attacking the messenger, ravi.

why

WHY!

I have relatives living in Texas. Ron Paul is a senator from Texas. Therefore, the following is true:

Ron Paul wishes to become president so he can implement his plan to breed humans with hamsters.

Snopes will verify that I wrote this.

ah, a senator like pelosi?
are you sharing the seecret sources with a certain highly intelligent super-poster?

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

More proof that cons are stupid. What Snopes is confirming here isn't that Obama is trying to overwhelm the system, what they are confirming is that somebody wrote an opinion piece about it. I certainly hope somebody has already bought this up

Yes and people said this guy didn't know obama ever and wasn't his friend or anything in college, yet snopes confirmed that he was and wrote this about obama.

There was a list of claims in the article, do you feel one of this guy's claims are wrong about obama?

Which claim? Tell me why you think its wrong, and we can discuss just like I asked to do in the first post.

read the snopes article again, they do not confirm what you say they are.

people siad this guy didn't know obama and others who knew that he knew obama said the guy never wrote the article...like i said snopes confirmed this.

NOW, back to the topic, There is a list of claims in the article do you find any of these claims to be wrong? Which claim? Why is it wrong in your opinion?

As I said at the end of the first post "Lets discuss the article"

 

[Ravi]

why are you attacking the messenger, ravi.

why

WHY!

I have relatives living in Texas. Ron Paul is a senator from Texas. Therefore, the following is true:

Ron Paul wishes to become president so he can implement his plan to breed humans with hamsters.

Snopes will verify that I wrote this.

ah, a senator like pelosi?
are you sharing the seecret sources with a certain highly intelligent super-poster?

I frown at your flippancy.

This is serious business. Ron Paul aims to create humsters, a super race of tireless nocturnal libertarians.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

read the snopes article again, they do not confirm what you say they are.

Next up, the toilet cleaning crew that worked at Columbia in 1983.

why are you attacking the messenger, ravi.

why

WHY!

Im starting to think the 2 of you actually know the stuff mentioned in the article is true.

Deflect and distract all you want, i'll be here to point out how much you two are running from the article itself.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Next up, the toilet cleaning crew that worked at Columbia in 1983.

why are you attacking the messenger, ravi.

why

WHY!

Im starting to think the 2 of you actually know the stuff mentioned in the article is true.

i know what the snopes article says. and what they confirm.

you got it wrong at least twice.

first: the title of the thread

second: that snopes confirmed that root knew obama in columbia.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

And there you have it folks

L.K. Elder can not refute any of the statements written in the artcle Bravo sir, bravo

 

[Flopper]

PP? Are you getting stupider lately?

What snopes confirmed is that the person attributed for writing the opinion piece did in fact write it.

What a stupid article. It claims that Obama is overwhelming the system with demand for entitlements. He has cut Medicare reimbursements and plans to cut it more. By stopping Social Security COLA, he's actually cut into Social Security. The deficit spending has been due to the recession, and unfunded wars and programs he inherited.

The "cuts" he made to medicare are actually overrun by the "spending" on the same program in The health care bill.

He has far surpassed even the spendaholic Bush in his annual spending thus far. Our spending and debt growth are reaching a rate that we, as a country, cant sustain for much longer. Then obama proposes even more govt spending and programs in other area's when we are already broke. The dots dont seem that far apart to me.

If Obama wanted he could end afghanistan and iraq and could have drawn down years ago when he took over but he didn't, instead he got us into a 3rd conflict with libya.

The above is where what I've seen in the last 3 years (almost) conflicts with what you said, below is a seperate question for you.


Bush was in recession too yet his defecit spending, while atrocious, was so much less than obama's......how do you explain this vast difference?

Most of the defict spending that was done by the administration was the direct result of the recession. The jobs bill, unemployment extensions, and other stimulus will run out and certainly won't be renewed. Obama has brought troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan and more are scheduled plus his spending reduction proposal phases out Iraq and Afghanistan entirely within ten years. The corporate bailouts are being paid back, and some will show a profit. That leaves only the Healthcare bill which the CBO has said it will reduce cost over time. Also Medicare reimbursements are being cut as way of financing parts or the Healthcare law.