Snopes Confirmed: Obama's agenda is to Overwhelm the system

[hellofromwarsaw]

Every opposition is against raising the ceiling- but this is the first time a lockstep bunch of looons think it doesn't matter and vote against EVERYTHING anyway!! Will be a rerun of 1948 and the do nothing congress, except no "Dewey Wins" this time. Lyin' cheatin' demagogue propagandizing Pubs never change...

 

[Greenbeard]

Post up. Show us were it was even suggested.

It wasn't suggested, it was passed on April 15 by House Republicans, who voted nearly unanimously for it (when brought to a vote in the Senate it failed, but still received the support of nearly every Republican). This is the Republican budget.

H.CON.RES.34
Latest Title: Establishing the budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2012 and setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2013 through 2021.
Sponsor: Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] (introduced 4/11/2011)

The bit where they raise the debt ceiling to accommodate their deficits is in Section 101:

(5) DEBT SUBJECT TO LIMIT- Pursuant to section 301(a)(5) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, the appropriate levels of the public debt are as follows:

Fiscal year 2012: $16,204,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2013: $17,177,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2014: $17,951,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2015: $18,697,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2016: $19,503,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2017: $20,245,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2018: $20,968,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2019: $21,699,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2020: $22,408,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2021: $23,102,000,000,000.

Keep in mind that the debt ceiling right now is $14.294 trillion.

 

[Oddball]

The left was against raising the debt limit before they were for it.

And the right was for it in April when they voted to raise the debt ceiling by $9 trillion to accommodate the next ten years of deficits in the House Republicans' budget.

Post up. Show us were it was even suggested.

He only posts what OIRA tells him to...Nothing more.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

Wrong again!

 

[B. Kidd]

The left was against raising the debt limit before they were for it.

Why is raising the debt limit ok now?

B/c a dem is in the WH.


Suck balls tyrants.

You should run for office with that as your campaign slogan. 'Suck Balls Tyrants'. It has a better ring to it than 'Hope and Change'.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

snopes.com: Obama's Agenda: Overwhelm the System

Rahm Emanuel cynically said, "You never want a crisis to go to waste." It is now becoming clear that the crisis he was referring to is Barack Obama's presidency.

Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.Â

Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

(click link for the list of things)

With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.

Full article: Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com <---i did cut a few things out in the quote above so if you want to see it all click it.

Lets discuss the article.

PP? Are you getting stupider lately?

What snopes confirmed is that the person attributed for writing the opinion piece did in fact write it.

so you dont want to discuss the material in the article but attack the messanger instead. Ok.

People were saying that the guy never said this stuff yet he did, now what do you think of all the different actions by obama in light of these things the guy said about him and the things obama is actually doing and saying himself?

There was a list in the article, pick one you think was not accurate and lets discuss why it is or isn't.

Or we can call each other stupid and do nothing to expand our own horizons......................

 

[Two Thumbs]

The left was against raising the debt limit before they were for it.

And the right was for it in April when they voted to raise the debt ceiling by $9 trillion to accommodate the next ten years of deficits in the House Republicans' budget.

dontcha think it's time we stopped that non-sense?

$14.4 Trillion in the hole and they want to up it another 2-3 trillion.

 

[8537]

The left was against raising the debt limit before they were for it.

Why is raising the debt limit ok now?

B/c a dem is in the WH.


Suck balls tyrants.

The right was for raising the debt limit before they were against it.

Neither side has clean hands here.

 

[mmmjvpssm]

More proof that cons are stupid. What Snopes is confirming here isn't that Obama is trying to overwhelm the system, what they are confirming is that somebody wrote an opinion piece about it. I certainly hope somebody has already bought this up

 

[Two Thumbs]

The left was against raising the debt limit before they were for it.

Why is raising the debt limit ok now?

B/c a dem is in the WH.


Suck balls tyrants.

You should run for office with that as your campaign slogan. 'Suck Balls Tyrants'. It has a better ring to it than 'Hope and Change'.

I'd cut the spending to the bone, quickly.

I'd check the emergency budget for when the gov runs out of money, list all the non-ecential depts, that don't get funded in these times, sort by cost and start deleting.

 

[Full-Auto]

Post up. Show us were it was even suggested.

It wasn't suggested, it was passed on April 15 by House Republicans, who voted nearly unanimously for it (when brought to a vote in the Senate it failed, but still received the support of nearly every Republican). This is the Republican budget.

H.CON.RES.34
Latest Title: Establishing the budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2012 and setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2013 through 2021.
Sponsor: Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] (introduced 4/11/2011)

The bit where they raise the debt ceiling to accommodate their deficits is in Section 101:

(5) DEBT SUBJECT TO LIMIT- Pursuant to section 301(a)(5) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, the appropriate levels of the public debt are as follows:

Fiscal year 2012: $16,204,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2013: $17,177,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2014: $17,951,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2015: $18,697,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2016: $19,503,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2017: $20,245,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2018: $20,968,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2019: $21,699,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2020: $22,408,000,000,000.

Fiscal year 2021: $23,102,000,000,000.

Keep in mind that the debt ceiling right now is $14.294 trillion.

No vote has raised the debt level by 9 trillion.

Do you understand what you wrote? Did they have a smaller debt ceiling vote that increased the debt to 9 trillion. DUH!!!!

 

[Two Thumbs]

The left was against raising the debt limit before they were for it.

Why is raising the debt limit ok now?

B/c a dem is in the WH.


Suck balls tyrants.

The right was for raising the debt limit before they were against it.

Neither side has clean hands here.

Never thought a bit of John Kerry humor would get any responses.


I'll never claim republicans don't vote that shit up themselves.

BUT

For once some of them are against it, for a change. But instead of thanking gawd for some fiscal sanity, it gets played out that they want to kill seniors and destroy America.

utter fucking non-sense.

 

[Two Thumbs]

More proof that cons are stupid. What Snopes is confirming here isn't that Obama is trying to overwhelm the system, what they are confirming is that somebody wrote an opinion piece about it. I certainly hope somebody has already bought this up

yes

Are you the lead top head guy of the Dept of reduntant redundancies?

Respond to the meat of the subject, if you have the balls.

 

[Stashman]

snopes.com: Obama's Agenda: Overwhelm the System

Rahm Emanuel cynically said, "You never want a crisis to go to waste." It is now becoming clear that the crisis he was referring to is Barack Obama's presidency.

Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.Â

Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

(click link for the list of things)

With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.

Full article: Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com <---i did cut a few things out in the quote above so if you want to see it all click it.

Lets discuss the article.

Even though I agree that the agenda is to overwhelm the system I don't agree with the idea that it's Obama's idea. The U.S. President is but a puppet and always has been. Obama is just another player in a long line of puppet presidents acting as tools for the elite globalist agenda.

The last real president we have had was JFK who refused to be pulled into the world government agenda. It's like brick road that leads to global government, each president simply laying down his bricks and the next one takes his place. America poses a problem for these folks and their aims to get world government implemented. The problem they are having is the rights we have here in America, and how will fight to keep them.

They are testing our complacency to see how far they can get. The more complacent we are the further they can go towards their goal. The American patriot act was a big boon for them, and unfortunately most Americans said nothing about it. They want to bankrupt this country than come in and say world government and a world currency is the only solution out of it.

 

[L.K.Eder]

snopes.com: Obama's Agenda: Overwhelm the System



Full article: Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com <---i did cut a few things out in the quote above so if you want to see it all click it.

Lets discuss the article.

PP? Are you getting stupider lately?

What snopes confirmed is that the person attributed for writing the opinion piece did in fact write it.

so you dont want to discuss the material in the article but attack the messanger instead. Ok.

People were saying that the guy never said this stuff yet he did, now what do you think of all the different actions by obama in light of these things the guy said about him and the things obama is actually doing and saying himself?

There was a list in the article, pick one you think was not accurate and lets discuss why it is or isn't.

Or we can call each other stupid and do nothing to expand our own horizons......................

if someone shows up at my door in pissed pants scratching his ass, i won't take his message seriously, no matter what it is.

 

[AmericanFirst]

who started swinging this axe?


If the republicans want to stop this economic disastor then all they have to do is pass a clean bill to raise the debt limit.

The right crashed the world economy with their historically failed ideas and now started swinging this axe to finish the country off.

They have the country to the bathtub and are trying to finish the job.

The right is marching to Grover Norquist's tune.

Wrong idiot. It is the left that are the America hating socialists that are trying to bankrupt America. They are the ones in dc right now not doing their jobs.

 

[Zander]

I doubt Obama's intentions are to "overwhelm" the system. He's simply not smart enough.

 

[Greenbeard]

No vote has raised the debt level by 9 trillion.

Do you understand what you wrote? Did they have a smaller debt ceiling vote that increased the debt to 9 trillion. DUH!!!!

House and Senate Republicans (except the 4 House Republicans and 5 Senate Republicans who voted nay) voted to raise the debt ceiling from $14.294 trillion to $23.102 trillion: a nearly $9 trillion increase to accommodate the additional debt wracked up by their budget over the next decade.

 

[Flopper]

snopes.com: Obama's Agenda: Overwhelm the System

Rahm Emanuel cynically said, "You never want a crisis to go to waste." It is now becoming clear that the crisis he was referring to is Barack Obama's presidency.

Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.Â

Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

(click link for the list of things)

With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.

Full article: Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com <---i did cut a few things out in the quote above so if you want to see it all click it.

Lets discuss the article.

PP? Are you getting stupider lately?

What snopes confirmed is that the person attributed for writing the opinion piece did in fact write it.

What a stupid article. It claims that Obama is overwhelming the system with demand for entitlements. He has cut Medicare reimbursements and plans to cut it more. By stopping Social Security COLA, he's actually cut into Social Security. The deficit spending has been due to the recession, and unfunded wars and programs he inherited.

 

[Zander]

No vote has raised the debt level by 9 trillion.

Do you understand what you wrote? Did they have a smaller debt ceiling vote that increased the debt to 9 trillion. DUH!!!!

House and Senate Republicans (except the 4 House Republicans and 5 Senate Republicans who voted nay) voted to raise the debt ceiling from $14.294 trillion to $23.102 trillion: a nearly $9 trillion increase to accommodate the additional debt wracked up by their budget over the next decade.