Should Jeff Sessions Have Recused Himself?

[Dragonlady]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

Jeff Sessions said his ethics advisors and he, had already decided that he would have to recuse himself because of his closeness to the campaign which was being investigated in the Russian Connection case and that this was before the enlightenment that we all got when it was found out that he had lied about his Russian meetings.... in other words he did not make his decision to recuse himself due to Democrats as you stated.

Rather he recused himself in an effort to appease the Democrats. That wasn't good enough for them, and many of them including Pelosi, suggested that he resign.

Bullshit. He recused himself because he worked for the campaign which meant he had a conflict of interest.

Given Don Jr.'s meeting with the Russian lawyer and Sessions subsequent settlement of the lawsuit she was involved in for pennies on the dollar, Sessions is more than likely now under investigation himself.

He would have been an idiot not to recuse himself.

 

[occupied]

So what is your point? That even though Session recuses himself, he he should step down as AG? That's what the Dems wanted him to do.

He merely recused himself from an investigation which has no basis in fact, believing that the pack of Democrat jackals would quit snapping at Trump's heels. Probably a bad move on his part because Donald Trump knows this whole "Russian collusion" thing is bullshit. That shows a lack of confidence on Session's part.

Do you seriously believe Trump is afraid of being investigated by his own AG? Hardly.

The only point I am trying to get into your thick skull is that Sessions did what the law and ethical guildelines clearly says he should do and you seem to have a big problem with that. The very idea of an AG that is loyal to the president is against the intention of the office. He should be devoted to the rule of law and the constitution of the US in the most non political way possible.

Sessions was not required by law to recuse himself.

I also said "Ethical Guidelines". To maintain the integrity of the office and the illusion that it is never to be a political office the AG is held to higher standard of ethics and political non-involvement than practically anyone else in government. Sessions knows this, why don't you?

 

[JGalt]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

Jeff Sessions said his ethics advisors and he, had already decided that he would have to recuse himself because of his closeness to the campaign which was being investigated in the Russian Connection case and that this was before the enlightenment that we all got when it was found out that he had lied about his Russian meetings.... in other words he did not make his decision to recuse himself due to Democrats as you stated.

Rather he recused himself in an effort to appease the Democrats. That wasn't good enough for them, and many of them including Pelosi, suggested that he resign.

Bullshit. He recused himself because he worked for the campaign which meant he had a conflict of interest.

Given Don Jr.'s meeting with the Russian lawyer and Sessions subsequent settlement of the lawsuit she was involved in for pennies on the dollar, Sessions is more than likely now under investigation himself.

He would have been an idiot not to recuse himself.

More nothingburger. How about some meat once in awhile?

 

[JGalt]

So what is your point? That even though Session recuses himself, he he should step down as AG? That's what the Dems wanted him to do.

He merely recused himself from an investigation which has no basis in fact, believing that the pack of Democrat jackals would quit snapping at Trump's heels. Probably a bad move on his part because Donald Trump knows this whole "Russian collusion" thing is bullshit. That shows a lack of confidence on Session's part.

Do you seriously believe Trump is afraid of being investigated by his own AG? Hardly.

The only point I am trying to get into your thick skull is that Sessions did what the law and ethical guildelines clearly says he should do and you seem to have a big problem with that. The very idea of an AG that is loyal to the president is against the intention of the office. He should be devoted to the rule of law and the constitution of the US in the most non political way possible.

Sessions was not required by law to recuse himself.

I also said "Ethical Guidelines". To maintain the integrity of the office and the illusion that it is never to be a political office the AG is held to higher standard of ethics and political non-involvement than practically anyone else in government. Sessions knows this, why don't you?

If "ethical guidelines" are such an important thing, why didn't you bring this up when Eric Holder was giving assault weapons to Mexican druggies?

More double stand. Every day another nothingburger with a large order of double standard.

 

[Dragonlady]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

Jeff Sessions said his ethics advisors and he, had already decided that he would have to recuse himself because of his closeness to the campaign which was being investigated in the Russian Connection case and that this was before the enlightenment that we all got when it was found out that he had lied about his Russian meetings.... in other words he did not make his decision to recuse himself due to Democrats as you stated.

Rather he recused himself in an effort to appease the Democrats. That wasn't good enough for them, and many of them including Pelosi, suggested that he resign.

Bullshit. He recused himself because he worked for the campaign which meant he had a conflict of interest.

Given Don Jr.'s meeting with the Russian lawyer and Sessions subsequent settlement of the lawsuit she was involved in for pennies on the dollar, Sessions is more than likely now under investigation himself.

He would have been an idiot not to recuse himself.

More nothingburger. How about some meat once in awhile?

When Trumpanzees parrot Donnie's lines and tweets, like "nothing burger" you come across of zombies who can't think for themselves.

What was in the dossier Ms. V. gave Junior? Why did Junior lie about who attended that meeting - twice? Was the 8th guy in the room her client? Why did Sessions settle the money laundering case she was involved in for 3 cents on the dollar and no admission of guilt? I'll bet Mueller is asking himself these very same questions.

 

[occupied]

So what is your point? That even though Session recuses himself, he he should step down as AG? That's what the Dems wanted him to do.

He merely recused himself from an investigation which has no basis in fact, believing that the pack of Democrat jackals would quit snapping at Trump's heels. Probably a bad move on his part because Donald Trump knows this whole "Russian collusion" thing is bullshit. That shows a lack of confidence on Session's part.

Do you seriously believe Trump is afraid of being investigated by his own AG? Hardly.

The only point I am trying to get into your thick skull is that Sessions did what the law and ethical guildelines clearly says he should do and you seem to have a big problem with that. The very idea of an AG that is loyal to the president is against the intention of the office. He should be devoted to the rule of law and the constitution of the US in the most non political way possible.

Sessions was not required by law to recuse himself.

I also said "Ethical Guidelines". To maintain the integrity of the office and the illusion that it is never to be a political office the AG is held to higher standard of ethics and political non-involvement than practically anyone else in government. Sessions knows this, why don't you?

If "ethical guidelines" are such an important thing, why didn't you bring this up when Eric Holder was giving assault weapons to Mexican druggies?

More double stand. Every day another nothingburger with a large order of double standard.

I called the whole thing a idiotic ill-conceived exercise and maybe the most bungled investigation ever, so what does that have to do with your inability to comprehend what the office of AG is supposed to be and do? The president does not just call up the AG or call him to the White House for a sermon or really have the right to expect anything in particular of him other than to serve the laws of this nation. His loyalty is to the rule of law and the citizens of the US and not to the president.

 

[Reasonable]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

It was the right thing to do which is why Trump was against it.
He's a morally repugnant man.

 

[JGalt]

Of course there is one scenario that nobody's considered:

The interview where he made his comment about Sessions took place on a Wednesday. Trump's Twitter feed was oddly silent today. But if you look at the White House page, you'll see that while everyone was looking over there because of his "Sessions" comment, Mike Pence was putting together a commission on voter fraud, Trump sent 18 nominations for district judges and cabinet appointment to the Senate, and he he continued an executive order dealing with transnational criminal organizations.

So what is he up to? As with most magicians, you watch the hand that is doing something. But what is going on in the other hand?

While the news cycle is busy with the Sessions comment story, I think he has something up his sleeve. Something big. Something he's going to unleash possible Thursday or Friday.

But nobody will be paying attention because they'll still be talking about the Sessions comment all weekend. Stay tuned.

 

[occupied]

Of course there is one scenario that nobody's considered:

The interview where he made his comment about Sessions took place on a Wednesday. Trump's Twitter feed was oddly silent today. But if you look at the White House page, you'll see that while everyone was looking over there because of his "Sessions" comment, Mike Pence was putting together a commission on voter fraud, Trump sent 18 nominations for district judges and cabinet appointment to the Senate, and he he continued an executive order dealing with transnational criminal organizations.

So what is he up to? As with most magicians, you watch the hand that is doing something. But what is going on in the other hand?

While the news cycle is busy with the Sessions comment story, I think he has something up his sleeve. Something big. Something he's going to unleash possible Thursday or Friday.

But nobody will be paying attention because they'll still be talking about the Sessions comment all weekend. Stay tuned.

All that stuff is what the White House staff does while the president does whatever. Your man is not playing some sort of three-dimensional chess here, If he has anything up his sleeve it's sole purpose will be to distract from his Russia troubles, it will not work for being an obvious distraction tactic and only add to the appearance of guilt.

 

[oreo]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

Sessions didn't have a choice. He lied under oath to congress during his confirmation hearing, stating that he had no Russian contact during the campaign, when he had met with the Russian ambassador twice. Not only did he lie, but he had filled out an application form just prior to the confirmation hearing checking a box that he had no contact with any Russians--and signed it. Then refused to go back to congress, under oath and get questioned over it.

"Attorney General Jeff Sessions had two contacts with Russian envoy Sergey Kislyak during the presidential campaign, Justice Department officials confirmed. The Washington Post first reported the meetings Wednesday. When he was asked in his confirmation hearing what he would do if there was evidence anyone associated with Donald Trump’s presidential campaign had communicated with the Russians, Sessions replied that he wasn’t aware of any such “activities,” and added, “I did not have communications with the Russians.” A questionnaire he filled out for the committee also asked whether he had had contact with the Russians, to which Sessions, according to the Post, wrote, “No.”
Jeff Sessions spoke twice with Russian envoy during presidential campaign: Department of Justice

This is standard motus de operende of Trump & company. They lie, they get caught, then lie again, then get caught again. It's been a weekly repeat of lie after lie.

Apparently there's been a lot of heat going on between Sessions & Trump over this. Obviously Trump thought Sessions could have protected him from the Russian invasion, but it wouldn't have helped. By not recusing himself, this Russian investigation would have brought him in as an accomplice to a coverup. At any rate, Sessions offered to resign but Trump refused his resignation.
Sessions offered to resign before Trump’s trip abroad

 

[Rambunctious]

It appears that Mueller's investigation has swung into the unmasking of Americans and the former members of the Obama intell hacks like Comey himself.

 

[bripat9643]

He shouldn't have said that. Why shouldn't it have been a surprise when he said it?

If Trump had a problem with what he said in the confirmation hearing he should have withdrawn the nomination then, not start backstabbing after 5 months. Hey I voted for the guy, but when he fucks up, I have no problem saying it. Sessions is doing a good job, Trump had no reason to go there.


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I look at it this way: Trump didn't fire him. And if Sessions doesn't get an attitude over the whole thing, he'll probably just try harder to gain Trump's approval.

The Justice Department could use a good house-cleaning. Sessions needs to get on the stick and start rooting out the Obama-sympathizers and leakers.

Amazed at how many of you want Trump to repeat all of Nixon's mistakes.

willful amnesia

or some kind of black magic spell Trump has put over them?

It's no spell and few of them even remember the particulars of Nixon's downfall. It's entirely a feeling that the ends justify the means, the core philosophy of fascism. The certainty that Trump must prevail by fair means or foul has been the hallmark of everything Trump has ever done.

You morons would try to claim that not letting someone cut in front of you is fascism. If anyone who believe the ends justifies the means, it's the left.

 

[bripat9643]

So what is your point? That even though Session recuses himself, he he should step down as AG? That's what the Dems wanted him to do.

He merely recused himself from an investigation which has no basis in fact, believing that the pack of Democrat jackals would quit snapping at Trump's heels. Probably a bad move on his part because Donald Trump knows this whole "Russian collusion" thing is bullshit. That shows a lack of confidence on Session's part.

Do you seriously believe Trump is afraid of being investigated by his own AG? Hardly.

The only point I am trying to get into your thick skull is that Sessions did what the law and ethical guildlines clearly says he should do and you seem to have a big problem with that. The very idea of an AG that is loyal to the president is against the intention of the office. He should be devoted to the rule of law and the constitution of the US in the most non political way possible.

What law says that? If we were talking about a system that wasn't thoroughly corrupt, you might have a point, but the reality is that the whole case against Sessions was trumped up bullshit, and it was just a means to hobble the Trump administration. Sessions should have told them to stuff it.

 

[jillian]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

of course he had to recuse. he's a potential target of the investigation.

it isn't a "witch Hunt" you insane twit or the wouldn't be surrounded by Russians and lying about it.

wacko

"Investigated" for having a meeting with the Russian Ambassador during the campaign?

The same Russian Ambassador who would sit with the Democrats in Congress?

Here's a quiz for you, sweetmeat: How many Democrats can you identify by name in this picture? That's the Russian Ambassador standing in the middle:

Maybe we should have an investigation into them as well.

if the meetings with Sessions was a nothing burger, he should not have presented his lies under oath....about the meetings

Making up your own version of the story doesn't necessarily mean mean you know what you're talking about. Sessions never lied under oath, you told a deliberate lie yourself, liar.

Want proof?

Did Sessions 'Lie'? - FactCheck.org

Like I said, just one more in a big plate of nothingburgers. Jeez, with all those nothingburgers you leftists keep snarfing down, one would think ya'll wouldn't be so fat.

I watched it, and he lied...he did not even address Franken's question, he inserted a memorized script that did not even address the question franken was asking him, which basically was...if the story is true that was being reported...what would you do? Would you recuse yourself? that's what franken wanted to know.... but Sessions inserted his memorized and carefully written script.

kilsiak met with no other Senators on Sessions committee that he claimed he met him under...... 24 other senators on the same committee were not approached by Ambassador Kilsiak....and you buy in to the garbage he was just ''doing his job as a member of this committee'' and not due to the campaign connection he had...then I have a bridge in brooklyn to sell you!

you realize they're delusional, right?

 

[blackhawk]

If Sessions hadn't recused himself the left would screaming it's a whitewashed investigation and coverup he did the right thing. We have seen what a partisan and political AG looks like with Eric Holder I really don't want that again.

 

[basquebromance]

Wouldn't be the worst idea for President Trump to explore the possibility of AG Ted Cruz. Lyin Ted has been an ally since Jan 20 and is willing to fight.

 

[bendog]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

Once he agreed to work with Trump he should have stayed loyal to him and should have been with him for better and for worse. All Trump Administration has to be one for all and all for one otherwise they will be eaten a piece at a time by Soros&Co. Flynn was their first success but there may be more, we don't want it.

That's how it works in Russia

 

[bendog]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

Imo he's a racist, but racists can also be patriots and honest, and I think Sessions is both. I also think he is the only one of the bunch who honestly may have just omitted listing his meetings with the Russian ambassador. There was one that looked a little iffy, but Sessions may very well have thought there was a distinction in his roles as senator and trump surrogate. His integrity is important to him, so recusal was the only way for him to go.

 

[2aguy]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

No...there was no reason to.....loretta lynch didn't recuse herself from any of the investigations in the obama administration, from the IRS scandal to the hilary scandals from her illegal servers to her foundation....and in fact, from reports in the press, she actively colluded to block those investigations.....

And it wasn't a matter of being loyal to Trump...it was a matter of doing his job, and not bowing down to the whims of the democrats who were trying to attack Trump and his people any way they could get away with....and that he recused himself shows he isn't a fighter....

 

[RightyTighty]

What do you think? Should he have recused himself at the request of the Democrats, from the "muh Russian" witch hunt, or should he have remained loyal to Trump?

Once he agreed to work with Trump he should have stayed loyal to him and should have been with him for better and for worse. All Trump Administration has to be one for all and all for one otherwise they will be eaten a piece at a time by Soros&Co. Flynn was their first success but there may be more, we don't want it.

He serves the law, not the Orange Menace.