Shocker: Americans Want to Choose Their Own Health Care

[Listening]

Shocker Americans Want to Choose Their Own Health Care - Sarah Jean Seman

Seventy-five percent (75%) say individuals should have the right to choose between different types of health insurance including some that cost more and cover just about all medical procedures and some that cost less while covering only major medical procedures. Just 10% disagree, while slightly more (15%) are undecided.

Even more (83%) believe individuals should have the right to choose between different types of health insurance including some with high deductibles and lower premiums and others with lower deductibles and higher premiums. Only six percent (6%) oppose this kind of choice, while 10% are not sure.

Support for these choices is little changed in nearly two years of regular tracking.

Most voters (76%) also believe that employers and individuals should be allowed to buy health insurance plans across state lines, something that is not allowed under the new health care law. That’s the highest level of support measured since April.

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Can't wait to hear Frankie flapping his oversized lips about those "Junk Plans" that nobody said anything about before they screwed Obama over.

 

[Mr. H.]

I can't afford the cheapest mother scratching ACA policy.

IF I had access to a policy that had no maternity, no drug abuse, no mental health provisions... I could afford it.

There used to be a "buffet" of policies out there, but now we are all on the exact same policy.

Socialism- ya can't beat it. With a fucking stick.

 

[Listening]

Let's hear what piss-for-brains JakeStarkey has to say about this one.

After all......

Don’t forget, the penalty for not having health care coverage will increase every year. In 2014, the maximum fee per family was $285. In 2015, the fee will increase to $325 per adult or two percent of income, in 2016 this rises to 2.5 percent of income. The penalty continues to rise until it caps at the average national premium for the bronze plan.

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It just keeps getting better and better all the time.

 

[Mr. H.]

For a family of three earning a gross of $80,000/year, here are the numbers.

$1,000/month premium, $13,000 deductible, $12,000 out of pocket.

They don't ask you what are your mortgage payments. They don't ask what are your home/auto insurance payments. They don't ask what are your real estate taxes. They don't ask what are your utility bills, grocery bills, car payments, education expenses.

ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS HOW FUCKING POOR YOU ARE.

And they don't give a FLYING FUCK about anyone else.

Fuck this shit.

 

[candycorn]

Back in 2012...you said you'd leave the board if Obama won.
He won.
You're still here.

Why'd you lie?

 

[Care4all]

Sounds like what people want is something like Medicare, where they are covered across state lines and they get to choose most any doctor they want....

My husband and I have NEVER had a real choice in our plans because we always get insurance thru our employers, and were always limited to the 3 plans or so, our employer chose to offer us... it would be great if we actually had a real choice in health care coverage but I don't see that ever happening or employers ever being that generous in their offerings of insurance policy choices...20 years ago we might have had a wider selection of plans, maybe 6 to choose from, but it was still NOT much of a selection to choose from....

 

[william the wie]

Let's face it Obamacare is a political disaster of epic proportions regardless of merits as in a Democratic adviser, Gruber, admitted only the D lock on the stupid vote could get the president reelected in 2012. With that kind of message to present/defend in 2016 there are definite problems for the Ds.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Shocker Americans Want to Choose Their Own Health Care - Sarah Jean Seman

Seventy-five percent (75%) say...

how many Americans believe in Big Foot, alien abductions and UFOs?

 

[hipeter924]

I can't afford the cheapest mother scratching ACA policy.

IF I had access to a policy that had no maternity, no drug abuse, no mental health provisions... I could afford it.

There used to be a "buffet" of policies out there, but now we are all on the exact same policy.

Socialism- ya can't beat it. With a fucking stick.

I only need a policy that covers the rare broken leg or accident, and maybe a visit to the doctor every six months, as I really don't need to go too often. But even if I find one like that, it is sure to be at least $160-200 a month.

 

[william the wie]

The Ds have a political suicide pact and it is called ACA.

 

[Care4all]

Let's face it Obamacare is a political disaster of epic proportions regardless of merits as in a Democratic adviser, Gruber, admitted only the D lock on the stupid vote could get the president reelected in 2012. With that kind of message to present/defend in 2016 there are definite problems for the Ds.

Actually, if you are on the Exchange, your choices are much, much, much greater than what most employer's offer as choices....BUT NOTE, none are affordable, without a subsidy, (and the insurance thru ones work is not affordable without the employer contribution either) but there are lot's of choices available from high deductibles/ lower monthly premiums to lower deductibles with higher monthly premiums, with or without dental coverage, with or without infertility coverage, with or without coverage for your kids, deductibles for pharma included in plan's deductible, or no deductible for drugs at all if generic etc etc etc....

 

[Care4all]

it would be awesome if health care insurance choices were greater, but when you can only afford to get insurance thru your employer as a benefit, your choices are very limited.

 

[Mr. H.]

I can't afford the cheapest mother scratching ACA policy.

IF I had access to a policy that had no maternity, no drug abuse, no mental health provisions... I could afford it.

There used to be a "buffet" of policies out there, but now we are all on the exact same policy.

Socialism- ya can't beat it. With a fucking stick.

I only need a policy that covers the rare broken leg or accident, and maybe a visit to the doctor every six months, as I really don't need to go too often. But even if I find one like that, it is sure to be at least $160-200 a month.

Well- surprise! That shit has long gone out the window. Where the fuck have you been?

We are now ALL under ONE policy- we are now all equal.

BUT- being equal, we must pay for those who cannot afford the premiums by paying higher premiums ourselves.

This is the MOST fucked up bullshit.

 

[william the wie]

Let's face it Obamacare is a political disaster of epic proportions regardless of merits as in a Democratic adviser, Gruber, admitted only the D lock on the stupid vote could get the president reelected in 2012. With that kind of message to present/defend in 2016 there are definite problems for the Ds.

Actually, if you are on the Exchange, your choices are much, much, much greater than what most employer's offer as choices....BUT NOTE, none are affordable, without a subsidy, (and the insurance thru ones work is not affordable without the employer contribution either) but there are lot's of choices available from high deductibles/ lower monthly premiums to lower deductibles with higher monthly premiums, with or without dental coverage, with or without infertility coverage, with or without coverage for your kids, deductibles for pharma included in plan's deductible, or no deductible for drugs at all if generic etc etc etc....

What does that have to do with Obamacare being a political disaster..And as full disclosure since my wife is a retiree from Mayo Clinic Jacksonville I don't have a financial dog in this fight.

 

[AgentSparky]

I can't afford the cheapest mother scratching ACA policy.

IF I had access to a policy that had no maternity, no drug abuse, no mental health provisions... I could afford it.

There used to be a "buffet" of policies out there, but now we are all on the exact same policy.

The same thing is happening to me.I use pay $180 per month for my Horizon policy. Then November of last year I was I received a letter from them stating I was losing my policy due to the new Obamacare minimal requirements. Then in December of 2013, I was offered a policy from Horizon that I can have a similar policy for $220. per month for 2014.

Now I got kicked to Obamacare which is telling me I must purchase their minimal policy which covers maternity, juvenile dental, drug rehabilitation among other things I don't need starting at $500 per month.

I can't afford it so it looks like I have to try for medicade, which my Doctor doesn't accept. So it now looks like I'm going not going to keep my doctor.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The Ds have a political suicide pact and it is called ACA.

ok try taking it away from people

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I can't afford the cheapest mother scratching ACA policy.

IF I had access to a policy that had no maternity, no drug abuse, no mental health provisions... I could afford it.

There used to be a "buffet" of policies out there, but now we are all on the exact same policy.

The same thing is happening to me.I use pay $180 per month for my Horizon policy. Then November of last year I was I received a letter from them stating I was losing my policy due to the new Obamacare minimal requirements. Then in December of 2013, I was offered a policy from Horizon that I can have a similar policy for $220. per month for 2014.

Now I got kicked to Obamacare which is telling me I must purchase their minimal policy which covers maternity, juvenile dental, drug rehabilitation among other things I don't need starting at $500 per month.

I can't afford it so it looks like I have to try for medicade, which my Doctor doesn't accept. So it now looks like I'm going not going to keep my doctor.

you had a policy with what? you are comparing them. you appear to be lying through omission

 

[hipeter924]

I can't afford the cheapest mother scratching ACA policy.

IF I had access to a policy that had no maternity, no drug abuse, no mental health provisions... I could afford it.

There used to be a "buffet" of policies out there, but now we are all on the exact same policy.

Socialism- ya can't beat it. With a fucking stick.

I only need a policy that covers the rare broken leg or accident, and maybe a visit to the doctor every six months, as I really don't need to go too often. But even if I find one like that, it is sure to be at least $160-200 a month.

Well- surprise! That shit has long gone out the window. Where the fuck have you been?

We are now ALL under ONE policy- we are now all equal.

BUT- being equal, we must pay for those who cannot afford the premiums by paying higher premiums ourselves.

This is the MOST fucked up bullshit.

Not necessarily, as some still exist. But obviously the minimum where I am is at least $150 or more.

 

[Mr. H.]

I can't afford the cheapest mother scratching ACA policy.

IF I had access to a policy that had no maternity, no drug abuse, no mental health provisions... I could afford it.

There used to be a "buffet" of policies out there, but now we are all on the exact same policy.

Socialism- ya can't beat it. With a fucking stick.

I only need a policy that covers the rare broken leg or accident, and maybe a visit to the doctor every six months, as I really don't need to go too often. But even if I find one like that, it is sure to be at least $160-200 a month.

Well- surprise! That shit has long gone out the window. Where the fuck have you been?

We are now ALL under ONE policy- we are now all equal.

BUT- being equal, we must pay for those who cannot afford the premiums by paying higher premiums ourselves.

This is the MOST fucked up bullshit.

Not necessarily, as some still exist. But obviously the minimum where I am is at least $150 or more.

$150 or more what?

Are you one of those bitches for whom I am paying $1,000/month to insure?

 

[Care4all]

Let's face it Obamacare is a political disaster of epic proportions regardless of merits as in a Democratic adviser, Gruber, admitted only the D lock on the stupid vote could get the president reelected in 2012. With that kind of message to present/defend in 2016 there are definite problems for the Ds.

Actually, if you are on the Exchange, your choices are much, much, much greater than what most employer's offer as choices....BUT NOTE, none are affordable, without a subsidy, (and the insurance thru ones work is not affordable without the employer contribution either) but there are lot's of choices available from high deductibles/ lower monthly premiums to lower deductibles with higher monthly premiums, with or without dental coverage, with or without infertility coverage, with or without coverage for your kids, deductibles for pharma included in plan's deductible, or no deductible for drugs at all if generic etc etc etc....

What does that have to do with Obamacare being a political disaster..And as full disclosure since my wife is a retiree from Mayo Clinic Jacksonville I don't have a financial dog in this fight.

I was just trying to tie in your rant, with the thread's op....and the link for the op.... if you were just ranting for the sake of ranting and not trying to make a comment on the thread's actual topic, then...my mistake...