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Yep.
Emma, here you are, intelligent, and clearly well versed in healthcare, but cannot see the clear dots that have to be connected.
Totalist philosophies have, as their hallmark, been for 'the people,' but opposed to the individual.
That is the clear difference as compared to democracy.
Here we have an administration which claims to provide better healthcare at a lower cost. Logic and experience must tell you that the material quoted by Navy has as its money saving key the reduction of services, and we can see who will shoulder the reduction.
One of the posts above actually posits that old folks really want to die, and the language is just trying to codify their wishes.
Shocking and absurd.
Let me pose a hypothetical, but one based on history in the healthcare field, and you tell me the different future that you can see:
The probable, not definite, not possible, but probable, result of the instituting of the ObamaCare Healthcare Plan. The 'Public Option,' and ultimately all plans will use capitation to save money:
1. Capitation, also called bundling, is a fixed payment remitted at regular intervals to a medical provider by a managed care organization for an enrolled patient.
a. The primary care physician gets a fixed payment based on the number of patients signed up by him, or assigned to him.
b. The payment is whether or not the patients are seen. So if the payment is $10, but it costs the doctor $50 to see the patient, he will limit the number of public plan patients he sees.
c. The patient will require a referral to see a specialist, and the program will deduct payment from the doctor for each such referral.
d. Thus the primary care physician is incentivized not to see patients nor to refer to specialists.
2. While this was the procedure in the early days of HMOs, to institute it today does not recognize current demographics.
a. While younger patients can withstand longer waits for an appointment, and would probably recover from a flu, or sprain, this is not the case for our older population.
b. The nature of the complaint often involves more serious medical problems, as the elderly have more diabetes, circulatory, and malignancies.
c. While current medical environment requires more frequent visits, the plan in question inveighs against this.
Hmmmm.....I wonder who she is referring to about, "their wishes". Because I've treated probably at least 1,000 patients with DNR status.....I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. I'll give her one thing....she knows about the business and impersonal aspect of healthcare. But she knows nothing about the personal aspect, it seems.
Emma, here you are, intelligent, and clearly well versed in healthcare, but cannot see the clear dots that have to be connected.
Totalist philosophies have, as their hallmark, been for 'the people,' but opposed to the individual.
That is the clear difference as compared to democracy.
Here we have an administration which claims to provide better healthcare at a lower cost. Logic and experience must tell you that the material quoted by Navy has as its money saving key the reduction of services, and we can see who will shoulder the reduction.
One of the posts above actually posits that old folks really want to die, and the language is just trying to codify their wishes.
Shocking and absurd.
Let me pose a hypothetical, but one based on history in the healthcare field, and you tell me the different future that you can see:
The probable, not definite, not possible, but probable, result of the instituting of the ObamaCare Healthcare Plan. The 'Public Option,' and ultimately all plans will use capitation to save money:
1. Capitation, also called bundling, is a fixed payment remitted at regular intervals to a medical provider by a managed care organization for an enrolled patient.
a. The primary care physician gets a fixed payment based on the number of patients signed up by him, or assigned to him.
b. The payment is whether or not the patients are seen. So if the payment is $10, but it costs the doctor $50 to see the patient, he will limit the number of public plan patients he sees.
c. The patient will require a referral to see a specialist, and the program will deduct payment from the doctor for each such referral.
d. Thus the primary care physician is incentivized not to see patients nor to refer to specialists.
2. While this was the procedure in the early days of HMOs, to institute it today does not recognize current demographics.
a. While younger patients can withstand longer waits for an appointment, and would probably recover from a flu, or sprain, this is not the case for our older population.
b. The nature of the complaint often involves more serious medical problems, as the elderly have more diabetes, circulatory, and malignancies.
c. While current medical environment requires more frequent visits, the plan in question inveighs against this.
Hmmmm.....I wonder who she is referring to about, "their wishes". Because I've treated probably at least 1,000 patients with DNR status.....I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. I'll give her one thing....she knows about the business and impersonal aspect of healthcare. But she knows nothing about the personal aspect, it seems.
I wasn't trying to hide who I was referring to.
But if you are justifying an absurd idea that the elderly really want to die, then why do they go to a physician in the first place?
Sorry, MS, you have a good heart, but absolutely no understanding of human nature. And those are exactly the criteria manupulated by the lefties in this administration.
Lenin had an apt phrase for those kind of folks, who could be convinced that the collective was more important than the individual.
For those of you who think that this is a potential injustice or atrocity, please, go to work in an emergency room, or ambulance for about 4 years, and then come back and give your opinion about advanced directives. I'm SURE, that your opinion will have done a 180 degree turn by then.
Hmmmm.....I wonder who she is referring to about, "their wishes". Because I've treated probably at least 1,000 patients with DNR status.....I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. I'll give her one thing....she knows about the business and impersonal aspect of healthcare. But she knows nothing about the personal aspect, it seems.
I wasn't trying to hide who I was referring to.
But if you are justifying an absurd idea that the elderly really want to die, then why do they go to a physician in the first place?
Sorry, MS, you have a good heart, but absolutely no understanding of human nature. And those are exactly the criteria manupulated by the lefties in this administration.
Lenin had an apt phrase for those kind of folks, who could be convinced that the collective was more important than the individual.
Ha, that's a laugh. I have absolutely no business comprehension, because that is not what I went to college to do. It is not what I wanted to do. But I've been in healthcare for 13 years, and I DO understand advanced directives, DNR orders/ POST forms....and what they entail.
For those of you who think that this is a potential injustice or atrocity, please, go to work in an emergency room, or ambulance for about 4 years, and then come back and give your opinion about advanced directives. I'm SURE, that your opinion will have done a 180 degree turn by then.
OK, I can wait.
Are you finished patting yourself on the back?
"Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage."
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase
Did you get that?
"...people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care..."
Enough with your anecdotal self-aggrandizing data.
"...go to work in an emergency room, or ambulance ..."
OR
"...enormous 91 percent ..."
Let me pose a hypothetical, but one based on history in the healthcare field, and you tell me the different future that you can see
I wasn't trying to hide who I was referring to.
But if you are justifying an absurd idea that the elderly really want to die, then why do they go to a physician in the first place?
Sorry, MS, you have a good heart, but absolutely no understanding of human nature. And those are exactly the criteria manupulated by the lefties in this administration.
Lenin had an apt phrase for those kind of folks, who could be convinced that the collective was more important than the individual.
Ha, that's a laugh. I have absolutely no business comprehension, because that is not what I went to college to do. It is not what I wanted to do. But I've been in healthcare for 13 years, and I DO understand advanced directives, DNR orders/ POST forms....and what they entail.
What you don't understand is that thinking people who get what the ObamaCare is aimed at do not want it.
Unless you are appealing to the leftist view that they know better than the 'proletariat.'
That is why the administration is in such a rush to get it through.
But if you are justifying an absurd idea that the elderly really want to die, then why do they go to a physician in the first place?
What in the world does that have to do with advance directives?For those of you who think that this is a potential injustice or atrocity, please, go to work in an emergency room, or ambulance for about 4 years, and then come back and give your opinion about advanced directives. I'm SURE, that your opinion will have done a 180 degree turn by then.
OK, I can wait.
Are you finished patting yourself on the back?
"Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage."
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase
Did you get that?
"...people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care..."
Enough with your anecdotal self-aggrandizing data.
"...go to work in an emergency room, or ambulance ..."
OR
"...enormous 91 percent ..."
For those of you who think that this is a potential injustice or atrocity, please, go to work in an emergency room, or ambulance for about 4 years, and then come back and give your opinion about advanced directives. I'm SURE, that your opinion will have done a 180 degree turn by then.
OK, I can wait.
Are you finished patting yourself on the back?
"Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage."
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase
Did you get that?
"...people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care..."
Enough with your anecdotal self-aggrandizing data.
"...go to work in an emergency room, or ambulance ..."
OR
"...enormous 91 percent ..."
What does whether or not someone is pleased with their healthcare have to do with advance directives?
But if you are justifying an absurd idea that the elderly really want to die, then why do they go to a physician in the first place?
That wasn't his point.
I'm just curious chic. Are you suggesting that only someone who hated their healthcare, and their life, would choose to sign a living will? Is that what you are implying? I know 20 year olds with living wills.
"I believe that the reason that this has been placed in the bill, is not to kill the elderly. It is to respect their wishes."
Shocking and absurd.
"I believe that the reason that this has been placed in the bill, is not to kill the elderly. It is to respect their wishes."
Shocking and absurd.
First, my apologies to her. I didn't realize she is a she.
Second, what is so 'shocking and absurd' about respecting someone's wishes and honoring an advance directive?
I just wanted to know why you feel respecting someone's wishes and honoring an advance directive is 'shocking and absurd', since you have felt the need to post that twice."I believe that the reason that this has been placed in the bill, is not to kill the elderly. It is to respect their wishes."
Shocking and absurd.
First, my apologies to her. I didn't realize she is a she.
Second, what is so 'shocking and absurd' about respecting someone's wishes and honoring an advance directive?
Did you neglect the rest of the post because you are unfamiliar with those mentioned, or because you are familiar, and would have to admit that doing away with our seniors is part and parcel of their 'health' plan?
My apologies. In New York, the forms are referred to as MOLST forms. We call them POST forms, in TN.
Here's a link:
Compassion and Support - End-of-Life and Palliative Care Planning, MOLST for New York State
Whether we like it or not, we are all going to have to make that decision eventually.
Nothing at all, thanks."I believe that the reason that this has been placed in the bill, is not to kill the elderly. It is to respect their wishes."
Shocking and absurd.
First, my apologies to her. I didn't realize she is a she.
Second, what is so 'shocking and absurd' about respecting someone's wishes and honoring an advance directive?
