Sen Joe McCarthy: American Patriot and Hero

[Wry Catcher]

boy... talk about revisionist history...

i can't decide if it's more evil or more dumb.

maybe both?

Maybe both, kinda depends on the source. I have no doubt evil (defined in the sense of any means justifies the goal) when members of the Ministry of Truth (think Limbaugh, Hannity) use the mass media to pervert history. Dumb when posters on this board repeat the distortions of the spin jockeys, neo-conservatives and loney far right (think Sharon Angle, Michelle Bachman, Rand Paul).
[I may have coined a term: "Spin Jockey", kinda describes conservative radio 'personalities' rather well]
toot my own horn, why not!

 

[manifold]

Had Zappa died of an OD he'd get radio play too just like The Doors, Janis and Hendrix.

Maybe.

Or if he had any talent, he'd get radio play too just like Zeppelin, The Stones, Rush and Tull.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Had Zappa died of an OD he'd get radio play too just like The Doors, Janis and Hendrix.

Maybe.

Or if he had any talent, he'd get radio play too just like Zeppelin, The Stones, Rush and Tull.

--

but to be fair, Zappa had tons of talent. Just ask any real musician. What Zappa didn't have is a hugely wide audience. But he did have millions of fans. Many of his fans were professional musicians maybe including the ones you have tried to emulate.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The Russians are coming!

The Russians are coming!

No wait...nothing to worry about.

It's only the Chinese.

Jonathan Winters

 

[manifold]

Had Zappa died of an OD he'd get radio play too just like The Doors, Janis and Hendrix.

Maybe.

Or if he had any talent, he'd get radio play too just like Zeppelin, The Stones, Rush and Tull.

--

but to be fair, Zappa had tons of talent. Just ask any real musician. What Zappa didn't have is a hugely wide audience. But he did have millions of fans. Many of his fans were professional musicians maybe including the ones you have tried to emulate.

I'm aware of that. But still, not my cup of tea.

One thing is for sure, Zappa was 100,000 times the musician that McCarthy was an American hero.

 

[Mr Natural]

Had Zappa died of an OD he'd get radio play too just like The Doors, Janis and Hendrix.

Maybe.

Or if he had any talent, he'd get radio play too just like Zeppelin, The Stones, Rush and Tull.

It's a shame he wasted his talent on a comedy act, and one that wasn't even that amusing or clever.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Yea Sandy Bergler was such a creepy A*shole. Typical Democrat. It probably was him who nicked that memo. McCarthy outed many actual Communists. History has shown this to be fact. Most if not all he investigated were Communists. He felt he was doing the right thing for our country by going after these Communists. He does get a bad rap. But look who controls our MSM? Hollywood is full of Ultra-Liberals,Socialists,Progressives,or what ever they're calling themselves these days. They're responsible for all of the negative propaganda against McCarthy. Our News Media is and has been controlled by these same Socialists for many years. So it's no surprise McCarthy gets such a bad rap in the MSM. Just look at who controls the Media propaganda. Most he investigated were Communists. People should take a more balanced approach towards the man. Hey just my opinion anyway. Thanks for your post.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

My opinion of folks looking to revise history in McCarthy's favor is pretty low.

McCarthy is an example of the old adage that even if you're 100% right (which he most definitely was not), the ends don't justify the means. McCarthy's type will always be the greatest danger to democracy: Power hungry opportunists who will lie, cheat, and steal to further their own agenda.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Maybe.

Or if he had any talent, he'd get radio play too just like Zeppelin, The Stones, Rush and Tull.

--

but to be fair, Zappa had tons of talent. Just ask any real musician. What Zappa didn't have is a hugely wide audience. But he did have millions of fans. Many of his fans were professional musicians maybe including the ones you have tried to emulate.

I'm aware of that. But still, not my cup of tea.

One thing is for sure, Zappa was 100,000 times the musician that McCarthy was an American hero.

poor uncle Joe, the Irish-Male typhoid Mary.

 

[Father Time]

Yea Sandy Bergler was such a creepy A*shole. Typical Democrat. It probably was him who nicked that memo. McCarthy outed many actual Communists. History has shown this to be fact. Most if not all he investigated were Communists. He felt he was doing the right thing for our country by going after these Communists. He does get a bad rap. But look who controls our MSM? Hollywood is full of Ultra-Liberals,Socialists,Progressives,or what ever they're calling themselves these days. They're responsible for all of the negative propaganda against McCarthy. Our News Media is and has been controlled by these same Socialists for many years. So it's no surprise McCarthy gets such a bad rap in the MSM. Just look at who controls the Media propaganda. Most he investigated were Communists. People should take a more balanced approach towards the man. Hey just my opinion anyway. Thanks for your post.

Yes he gets such a bad rap because all MSM is controlled by a massive socialist conspiracy. Uh huh

 

[rightwinger]

Had Zappa died of an OD he'd get radio play too just like The Doors, Janis and Hendrix.

Maybe.

Or if he had any talent, he'd get radio play too just like Zeppelin, The Stones, Rush and Tull.

It's a shame he wasted his talent on a comedy act, and one that wasn't even that amusing or clever.

Zappa was little more than a comedy act that appealed to adolescent males who would giggle at his records. If he had talent, he sold out in order to grind out songs for his limited fanbase.

Weird Al plays a mean accordian too....doesn't make him a great musical talent

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Unfortunately his history has been written by the Ultra-Liberals/Socialists/Progressives/Communists. Look at who controls the propaganda in Hollywood and our MSM. There you will find all your answers. McCarthy went after Communists at a time when this was necessary. Did he always do the right thing? Probably not but it is true that most if not all he went after were affiliated with Communists. He really does get a bad rap. His life should be looked at in a much more balanced fashion. The Hollywood & MSM Socialists/Progressives have grossly distorted his history. That's a real shame.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's totally appropriate and not at all unexpected that the people who have their McCarthy opinions spoofed to them and never bother checking their veracity also have a low opinion of Zappa as a comedian of dubious musical talent.

Go take "Blacklisted by History" by Evans and "Shut Up n Play Yer Guitar" out of your local library this weekend. You know where the library is, right? It's the building where you meet your dealer to but your paraquat laced Afghan Kush.

Go play this in 7/8 Reagge

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6cplMM3d_Q]YouTube - Steve Vai On His Audition for Frank Zappa's Band[/ame]

 

[Modbert]

Watch this Frank:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJyaBxYjWcQ]YouTube - The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street 1/3[/ame]

All three parts.

The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill, and suspicion can destroy, and the thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own: for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.

 

[rightwinger]

It's totally appropriate and not at all unexpected that the people who have their McCarthy opinions spoofed to them and never bother checking their veracity also have a low opinion of Zappa as a comedian of dubious musical talent.

Go take "Blacklisted by History" by Evans and "Shut Up n Play Yer Guitar" out of your local library this weekend. You know where the library is, right? It's the building where you meet your dealer to but your paraquat laced Afghan Kush.

Go play this in 7/8 Reagge

YouTube - Steve Vai On His Audition for Frank Zappa's Band

Zappa was fun if you were drunk and listening with your friends. A good ole "Dynamo Hum" sing along.

He was a novelty act good for a laugh or two. Most people outgrew him

Seems Frankie never did

 

[Synthaholic]

It's totally appropriate and not at all unexpected that the people who have their McCarthy opinions spoofed to them and never bother checking their veracity also have a low opinion of Zappa as a comedian of dubious musical talent.

Go take "Blacklisted by History" by Evans and "Shut Up n Play Yer Guitar" out of your local library this weekend. You know where the library is, right? It's the building where you meet your dealer to but your paraquat laced Afghan Kush.

Go play this in 7/8 Reagge

YouTube - Steve Vai On His Audition for Frank Zappa's Band

Zappa was fun if you were drunk and listening with your friends. A good ole "Dynamo Hum" sing along.

He was a novelty act good for a laugh or two. Most people outgrew him

Seems Frankie never did

No, sorry. Zappa is one of the few true musical geniuses of the 20th century.

Hey, Van Gogh didn't have that many fans until well after his death, also.

 

[JakeStarkey]

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Here goes PC with historical revision based on a new reality with new definitions without provenance provided for the "key" documents.

Well, the girl from Columbia College, Missouri, is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[HUGGY]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO2iiovYq70&feature=related]YouTube - JOSEPH MCCARTHY VS JOSEPH WELCH[/ame]

 

[JakeStarkey]

boy... talk about revisionist history...

i can't decide if it's more evil or more dumb.

maybe both?

What empowers the evil is that the effort is deliberate, an attempt to revise history with an unreality supported by unreal 'facts.' The bastard far right are entitled to their opinions but not to their own reality.

 

[rdean]

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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

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