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[Ray From Cleveland]

There is a company pie, but the country is not a pie. Why do we give tax cuts to corporations?

If your city or state is trying to attract a company that could bring 800 jobs to your area, but they are considering other cities to open up or move, what is the first thing your city does to attract them to your city or state? That's right, tax abatements.

They work every time it's tried. Lower costs for the company and they just may bring those jobs to your area and everybody benefits.

It works the same way on a worldwide level. Some move the entire company out of the country, and others just move their corporate offices out of the country because taxes are lower if you operate in America but not an official American company.

Yes there is a national pie.....it is chock full of GDPs
Yes, that pie may be bigger or smaller next year but there is a definite size to our national economy
What we do know is that workers are getting a smaller and smaller slice of that GDP pie. So should we go over and take pie away from rich people and give it to poor people?
Of course not
But we should not continue national economic policies that encourage the wealthy to gain more pie. We need more policies that help working Americans to get and keep more pie

No, there is no national pie. If that were true, I could ask my boss for a raise tomorrow, and he would say he'd love to give me a raise, but he can't because the rich people have all the money. Or I could go to the bank for a loan, and they would tell me they would give me a loan if the rich didn't have all the money.

That's never happened and never will.

If you want more pie, buy more pie. Nothing is stopping you from buying stock in your company if they are large enough to be in the market. If they are not, you can buy stock in other companies and share their success that way. So we already have that system you speak of, it's just that nobody is going to knock at your front door and hand it to you.

Companies cater to the customer, and it's the American consumer that calls the shots. When we collectively start to buy products from companies that produce in America, provide good paying monkey jobs, that's when you'll see industry focus on sharing that pie you speak of. Until that time, companies will focus on providing us with the cheap products we demand.

You keep confusing an individual job with the nations economy
You are negotiating within a continually diminishing slice of pie. As you negotiate, your boss will tell you....I'd like to pay you more ...but someone else will work for less....by the way...I need to cut your pension plan
Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

Believe it or not, you hit the nail on the head. An employees worth is what your company can pay another person to do the same quality of work. That's it. Supply and demand is what your worth is.

The way to increase your worth is to make yourself more valuable; do work that less people can do.

Anybody can stock shelves, inspect parts, make french fries, deliver pizzas. Less people can build houses, remodel houses, do plumbing or electrical work, repair and maintain computers, take care of patients in the hospital, troubleshoot HVAC systems.

Years ago I was repairing medical equipment so my company wanted me to go to electronics school. It became tedious after a while holding down a full-time job and going to school at nights. So I asked my teacher what kind of money I could make in electronics if I stayed one year and got my FCC license? He told me around 16K. Unhappy with his answer, I asked what I could make if I stuck around two years and got my associates degree? He said about 18K a year.

That was back in the early 80's, but even then, very crappy money. Electronics is hard, it takes some talent to understand. It's all math. So why the little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics. Supply and demand.

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes there is a national pie.....it is chock full of GDPs
Yes, that pie may be bigger or smaller next year but there is a definite size to our national economy
What we do know is that workers are getting a smaller and smaller slice of that GDP pie. So should we go over and take pie away from rich people and give it to poor people?
Of course not
But we should not continue national economic policies that encourage the wealthy to gain more pie. We need more policies that help working Americans to get and keep more pie

No, there is no national pie. If that were true, I could ask my boss for a raise tomorrow, and he would say he'd love to give me a raise, but he can't because the rich people have all the money. Or I could go to the bank for a loan, and they would tell me they would give me a loan if the rich didn't have all the money.

That's never happened and never will.

If you want more pie, buy more pie. Nothing is stopping you from buying stock in your company if they are large enough to be in the market. If they are not, you can buy stock in other companies and share their success that way. So we already have that system you speak of, it's just that nobody is going to knock at your front door and hand it to you.

Companies cater to the customer, and it's the American consumer that calls the shots. When we collectively start to buy products from companies that produce in America, provide good paying monkey jobs, that's when you'll see industry focus on sharing that pie you speak of. Until that time, companies will focus on providing us with the cheap products we demand.

You keep confusing an individual job with the nations economy
You are negotiating within a continually diminishing slice of pie. As you negotiate, your boss will tell you....I'd like to pay you more ...but someone else will work for less....by the way...I need to cut your pension plan
Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

Believe it or not, you hit the nail on the head. An employees worth is what your company can pay another person to do the same quality of work. That's it. Supply and demand is what your worth is.

The way to increase your worth is to make yourself more valuable; do work that less people can do.

Anybody can stock shelves, inspect parts, make french fries, deliver pizzas. Less people can build houses, remodel houses, do plumbing or electrical work, repair and maintain computers, take care of patients in the hospital, troubleshoot HVAC systems.

Years ago I was repairing medical equipment so my company wanted me to go to electronics school. It became tedious after a while holding down a full-time job and going to school at nights. So I asked my teacher what kind of money I could make in electronics if I stayed one year and got my FCC license? He told me around 16K. Unhappy with his answer, I asked what I could make if I stuck around two years and got my associates degree? He said about 18K a year.

That was back in the early 80's, but even then, very crappy money. Electronics is hard, it takes some talent to understand. It's all math. So why the little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics. Supply and demand.

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

No need to invoke socialism is there?

Just because we do less for the rich does not mean we are now socialist

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

so what?? whether they get the benefits of capitalism through low prices or higher wages does not matter. All workers are customers too!!

 

[rightwinger]

Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

so what?? whether they get the benefits of capitalism through low prices or higher wages does not matter. All workers are customers too!!

Very true....and when you cut the ability of workers to be customers the whole economy suffers

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No need to invoke socialism is there?

yes you said you wanted govt to help the workers not the free market to help the workers. 1+1=2

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

when you cut the ability of workers to be customers the whole economy suffers[/QUOTE]

if they get lower prices their ability to be customers is increased. Do you understand?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

so what?? whether they get the benefits of capitalism through low prices or higher wages does not matter. All workers are customers too!!

Very true....and when you cut the ability of workers to be customers the whole economy suffers

The only people that cut the ability of the workers to be customers are the workers themselves. That's the point behind one trying to advance themselves and not the government, because the government is incapable of doing anything like that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, there is no national pie. If that were true, I could ask my boss for a raise tomorrow, and he would say he'd love to give me a raise, but he can't because the rich people have all the money. Or I could go to the bank for a loan, and they would tell me they would give me a loan if the rich didn't have all the money.

That's never happened and never will.

If you want more pie, buy more pie. Nothing is stopping you from buying stock in your company if they are large enough to be in the market. If they are not, you can buy stock in other companies and share their success that way. So we already have that system you speak of, it's just that nobody is going to knock at your front door and hand it to you.

Companies cater to the customer, and it's the American consumer that calls the shots. When we collectively start to buy products from companies that produce in America, provide good paying monkey jobs, that's when you'll see industry focus on sharing that pie you speak of. Until that time, companies will focus on providing us with the cheap products we demand.

You keep confusing an individual job with the nations economy
You are negotiating within a continually diminishing slice of pie. As you negotiate, your boss will tell you....I'd like to pay you more ...but someone else will work for less....by the way...I need to cut your pension plan
Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

Believe it or not, you hit the nail on the head. An employees worth is what your company can pay another person to do the same quality of work. That's it. Supply and demand is what your worth is.

The way to increase your worth is to make yourself more valuable; do work that less people can do.

Anybody can stock shelves, inspect parts, make french fries, deliver pizzas. Less people can build houses, remodel houses, do plumbing or electrical work, repair and maintain computers, take care of patients in the hospital, troubleshoot HVAC systems.

Years ago I was repairing medical equipment so my company wanted me to go to electronics school. It became tedious after a while holding down a full-time job and going to school at nights. So I asked my teacher what kind of money I could make in electronics if I stayed one year and got my FCC license? He told me around 16K. Unhappy with his answer, I asked what I could make if I stuck around two years and got my associates degree? He said about 18K a year.

That was back in the early 80's, but even then, very crappy money. Electronics is hard, it takes some talent to understand. It's all math. So why the little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics. Supply and demand.

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

No need to invoke socialism is there?

Just because we do less for the rich does not mean we are now socialist

I don't understand your response.

You said the federal government should do something to make the companies overpay their workers. You can't do that in a free capitalist society. You can only do that through dictatorships, Communism or Socialism.

 

[rightwinger]

You keep confusing an individual job with the nations economy
You are negotiating within a continually diminishing slice of pie. As you negotiate, your boss will tell you....I'd like to pay you more ...but someone else will work for less....by the way...I need to cut your pension plan
Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

Believe it or not, you hit the nail on the head. An employees worth is what your company can pay another person to do the same quality of work. That's it. Supply and demand is what your worth is.

The way to increase your worth is to make yourself more valuable; do work that less people can do.

Anybody can stock shelves, inspect parts, make french fries, deliver pizzas. Less people can build houses, remodel houses, do plumbing or electrical work, repair and maintain computers, take care of patients in the hospital, troubleshoot HVAC systems.

Years ago I was repairing medical equipment so my company wanted me to go to electronics school. It became tedious after a while holding down a full-time job and going to school at nights. So I asked my teacher what kind of money I could make in electronics if I stayed one year and got my FCC license? He told me around 16K. Unhappy with his answer, I asked what I could make if I stuck around two years and got my associates degree? He said about 18K a year.

That was back in the early 80's, but even then, very crappy money. Electronics is hard, it takes some talent to understand. It's all math. So why the little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics. Supply and demand.

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

No need to invoke socialism is there?

Just because we do less for the rich does not mean we are now socialist

I don't understand your response.

You said the federal government should do something to make the companies overpay their workers. You can't do that in a free capitalist society. You can only do that through dictatorships, Communism or Socialism.

That is not necessarily the only solution. Government could suggest that workers receive a pay scale percentage similar to what they received thirty years ago

I the absence of increases in worker pay, tax rates can be adjusted upwards to pay for more medical care, low cost education, housing subsidies. It can be paid for by adjusting corporate and high end tax rates to what they were 30 years ago

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. It can be paid for by adjusting corporate and high end tax rates to what they were 30 years ago

you've earned 46 times now that corporate taxes are highest in world and that it drove 10 million jobs off shore. Do you want to drive another 10 million jobs off shore??

greater wealth from the stone age to here comes from the supply of new inventions not govt action since govt does not invent a thing. Do you understand ot must we do this for the 47th time?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Believe it or not, you hit the nail on the head. An employees worth is what your company can pay another person to do the same quality of work. That's it. Supply and demand is what your worth is.

The way to increase your worth is to make yourself more valuable; do work that less people can do.

Anybody can stock shelves, inspect parts, make french fries, deliver pizzas. Less people can build houses, remodel houses, do plumbing or electrical work, repair and maintain computers, take care of patients in the hospital, troubleshoot HVAC systems.

Years ago I was repairing medical equipment so my company wanted me to go to electronics school. It became tedious after a while holding down a full-time job and going to school at nights. So I asked my teacher what kind of money I could make in electronics if I stayed one year and got my FCC license? He told me around 16K. Unhappy with his answer, I asked what I could make if I stuck around two years and got my associates degree? He said about 18K a year.

That was back in the early 80's, but even then, very crappy money. Electronics is hard, it takes some talent to understand. It's all math. So why the little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics. Supply and demand.

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

No need to invoke socialism is there?

Just because we do less for the rich does not mean we are now socialist

I don't understand your response.

You said the federal government should do something to make the companies overpay their workers. You can't do that in a free capitalist society. You can only do that through dictatorships, Communism or Socialism.

That is not necessarily the only solution. Government could suggest that workers receive a pay scale percentage similar to what they received thirty years ago

I the absence of increases in worker pay, tax rates can be adjusted upwards to pay for more medical care, low cost education, housing subsidies. It can be paid for by adjusting corporate and high end tax rates to what they were 30 years ago

It could. And what started happening to our jobs 30 years ago?

 

[rightwinger]

. It can be paid for by adjusting corporate and high end tax rates to what they were 30 years ago

you've earned 46 times now that corporate taxes are highest in world and that it drove 10 million jobs off shore. Do you want to drive another 10 million jobs off shore??

greater wealth from the stone age to here comes from the supply of new inventions not govt action since govt does not invent a thing. Do you understand ot must we do this for the 47th time?

Again with that lie. U.S. corporations do not pay the highest in the world. Accountants and lawyers make sure of that. They also have lobbyists ensuring they get favorable treatment in the tax code

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Again with that lie. U.S. corporations do not pay the highest in the world.e

rates are highest in world. To avoid rates they move off shore. You have learned this 56 times. Shall we go for 57?????

 

[rightwinger]

Again with that lie. U.S. corporations do not pay the highest in the world.e

rates are highest in world. To avoid rates they move off shore. You have learned this 56 times. Shall we go for 57?????

What they actually PAY is less than the world average

Let them move to Somalia if they are not happy

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

. It can be paid for by adjusting corporate and high end tax rates to what they were 30 years ago

you've earned 46 times now that corporate taxes are highest in world and that it drove 10 million jobs off shore. Do you want to drive another 10 million jobs off shore??

greater wealth from the stone age to here comes from the supply of new inventions not govt action since govt does not invent a thing. Do you understand ot must we do this for the 47th time?

Again with that lie. U.S. corporations do not pay the highest in the world. Accountants and lawyers make sure of that. They also have lobbyists ensuring they get favorable treatment in the tax code

That all depends on the industry. Some are paying nothing and others are paying close to 30%. If you're one of those that are paying 30%, it makes sense to move the hell out of the US. Hell, just move north a couple hundred miles because the Canadian corporate tax rate is about 10%.

 

[bripat9643]

No, there is no national pie. If that were true, I could ask my boss for a raise tomorrow, and he would say he'd love to give me a raise, but he can't because the rich people have all the money. Or I could go to the bank for a loan, and they would tell me they would give me a loan if the rich didn't have all the money.

That's never happened and never will.

If you want more pie, buy more pie. Nothing is stopping you from buying stock in your company if they are large enough to be in the market. If they are not, you can buy stock in other companies and share their success that way. So we already have that system you speak of, it's just that nobody is going to knock at your front door and hand it to you.

Companies cater to the customer, and it's the American consumer that calls the shots. When we collectively start to buy products from companies that produce in America, provide good paying monkey jobs, that's when you'll see industry focus on sharing that pie you speak of. Until that time, companies will focus on providing us with the cheap products we demand.

You keep confusing an individual job with the nations economy
You are negotiating within a continually diminishing slice of pie. As you negotiate, your boss will tell you....I'd like to pay you more ...but someone else will work for less....by the way...I need to cut your pension plan
Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

Believe it or not, you hit the nail on the head. An employees worth is what your company can pay another person to do the same quality of work. That's it. Supply and demand is what your worth is.

The way to increase your worth is to make yourself more valuable; do work that less people can do.

Anybody can stock shelves, inspect parts, make french fries, deliver pizzas. Less people can build houses, remodel houses, do plumbing or electrical work, repair and maintain computers, take care of patients in the hospital, troubleshoot HVAC systems.

Years ago I was repairing medical equipment so my company wanted me to go to electronics school. It became tedious after a while holding down a full-time job and going to school at nights. So I asked my teacher what kind of money I could make in electronics if I stayed one year and got my FCC license? He told me around 16K. Unhappy with his answer, I asked what I could make if I stuck around two years and got my associates degree? He said about 18K a year.

That was back in the early 80's, but even then, very crappy money. Electronics is hard, it takes some talent to understand. It's all math. So why the little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics. Supply and demand.

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

No need to invoke socialism is there?

Just because we do less for the rich does not mean we are now socialist

We don't do anything for the rich, dumbass. Do you imagine there is some government agency that decides who will be rich and how much money they will have?

You are truly a bonehead.

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[bripat9643]

You keep confusing an individual job with the nations economy
You are negotiating within a continually diminishing slice of pie. As you negotiate, your boss will tell you....I'd like to pay you more ...but someone else will work for less....by the way...I need to cut your pension plan
Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

Believe it or not, you hit the nail on the head. An employees worth is what your company can pay another person to do the same quality of work. That's it. Supply and demand is what your worth is.

The way to increase your worth is to make yourself more valuable; do work that less people can do.

Anybody can stock shelves, inspect parts, make french fries, deliver pizzas. Less people can build houses, remodel houses, do plumbing or electrical work, repair and maintain computers, take care of patients in the hospital, troubleshoot HVAC systems.

Years ago I was repairing medical equipment so my company wanted me to go to electronics school. It became tedious after a while holding down a full-time job and going to school at nights. So I asked my teacher what kind of money I could make in electronics if I stayed one year and got my FCC license? He told me around 16K. Unhappy with his answer, I asked what I could make if I stuck around two years and got my associates degree? He said about 18K a year.

That was back in the early 80's, but even then, very crappy money. Electronics is hard, it takes some talent to understand. It's all math. So why the little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics. Supply and demand.

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

No need to invoke socialism is there?

Just because we do less for the rich does not mean we are now socialist

I don't understand your response.

You said the federal government should do something to make the companies overpay their workers. You can't do that in a free capitalist society. You can only do that through dictatorships, Communism or Socialism.

BINGO!

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[rightwinger]

You keep confusing an individual job with the nations economy
You are negotiating within a continually diminishing slice of pie. As you negotiate, your boss will tell you....I'd like to pay you more ...but someone else will work for less....by the way...I need to cut your pension plan
Yes customers call the shots. Employers used to share more of that revenue with their employees

Believe it or not, you hit the nail on the head. An employees worth is what your company can pay another person to do the same quality of work. That's it. Supply and demand is what your worth is.

The way to increase your worth is to make yourself more valuable; do work that less people can do.

Anybody can stock shelves, inspect parts, make french fries, deliver pizzas. Less people can build houses, remodel houses, do plumbing or electrical work, repair and maintain computers, take care of patients in the hospital, troubleshoot HVAC systems.

Years ago I was repairing medical equipment so my company wanted me to go to electronics school. It became tedious after a while holding down a full-time job and going to school at nights. So I asked my teacher what kind of money I could make in electronics if I stayed one year and got my FCC license? He told me around 16K. Unhappy with his answer, I asked what I could make if I stuck around two years and got my associates degree? He said about 18K a year.

That was back in the early 80's, but even then, very crappy money. Electronics is hard, it takes some talent to understand. It's all math. So why the little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics. Supply and demand.

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

No need to invoke socialism is there?

Just because we do less for the rich does not mean we are now socialist

We don't do anything for the rich, dumbass. Do you imagine there is some government agency that decides who will be rich and how much money they will have?

You are truly a bonehead.

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We follow the golden rule
He who has the gold, makes the rules

The rich write the tax code. They decide on exemptions from taxes. They decide on subsidies. They pay less than they have in 40 years

 

[Thinker101]

Believe it or not, you hit the nail on the head. An employees worth is what your company can pay another person to do the same quality of work. That's it. Supply and demand is what your worth is.

The way to increase your worth is to make yourself more valuable; do work that less people can do.

Anybody can stock shelves, inspect parts, make french fries, deliver pizzas. Less people can build houses, remodel houses, do plumbing or electrical work, repair and maintain computers, take care of patients in the hospital, troubleshoot HVAC systems.

Years ago I was repairing medical equipment so my company wanted me to go to electronics school. It became tedious after a while holding down a full-time job and going to school at nights. So I asked my teacher what kind of money I could make in electronics if I stayed one year and got my FCC license? He told me around 16K. Unhappy with his answer, I asked what I could make if I stuck around two years and got my associates degree? He said about 18K a year.

That was back in the early 80's, but even then, very crappy money. Electronics is hard, it takes some talent to understand. It's all math. So why the little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics. Supply and demand.

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

No need to invoke socialism is there?

Just because we do less for the rich does not mean we are now socialist

We don't do anything for the rich, dumbass. Do you imagine there is some government agency that decides who will be rich and how much money they will have?

You are truly a bonehead.

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We follow the golden rule
He who has the gold, makes the rules

The rich write the tax code. They decide on exemptions from taxes. They decide on subsidies. They pay less than they have in 40 years

Yet they pay the most in taxes...go figure.

 

[rightwinger]

Again you drop down to the individual level when we are talking about national policy. Yes YOU may be able to enhance your bargaining position. But it will come at the expense of another employees bargaining position....there is no net gain
We are looking at the nationwide workers slice of the pie which has diminished. We need to change national policy to help the workers instead of the one percent

So what do you propose we do, turn to Socialism so government oversees all businesses?

Nobody wants to overpay labor. You don't, I don't, consumers don't, businesses don't. Everybody is looking for cheaper which is part of our immigrant problem.

No need to invoke socialism is there?

Just because we do less for the rich does not mean we are now socialist

We don't do anything for the rich, dumbass. Do you imagine there is some government agency that decides who will be rich and how much money they will have?

You are truly a bonehead.

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We follow the golden rule
He who has the gold, makes the rules

The rich write the tax code. They decide on exemptions from taxes. They decide on subsidies. They pay less than they have in 40 years

Yet they pay the most in taxes...go figure.

Kind of works out that way when they overwhelmingly walk away with most of the income
Of course, if they wanted to cut down on what they pay, they could always allow more money to trickle down to the workers

Ha...Ha....just kidding
Easier to buy a Congressman and rewrite the code in your favor