Repenting Homosexuals

[mikegriffith1]

Yes, I personally know people who used to engage in homosexual conduct and who repented of it and abandoned it.

The gay rights folks don't like to talk about the tens of thousands of people who have left the gay lifestyle. The website of the organization Parents and Friends of Ex-Gay (PFOX) is one good place to find accounts of people who have done this.

Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX) - Help, hope & community for ex-gays, parents, friends

 

[Lysistrata]

Yes, I personally know people who used to engage in homosexual conduct and who repented of it and abandoned it.

The gay rights folks don't like to talk about the tens of thousands of people who have left the gay lifestyle. The website of the organization Parents and Friends of Ex-Gay (PFOX) is one good place to find accounts of people who have done this.

Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX) - Help, hope & community for ex-gays, parents, friends

Why is it so necessary for heterosexuals to force LGBTs into the heterosexual lifestyle? There seems to be an obsession here.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Yes, I personally know people who used to engage in homosexual conduct and who repented of it and abandoned it.

The gay rights folks don't like to talk about the tens of thousands of people who have left the gay lifestyle. The website of the organization Parents and Friends of Ex-Gay (PFOX) is one good place to find accounts of people who have done this.

Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX) - Help, hope & community for ex-gays, parents, friends

Why is it so necessary for heterosexuals to force LGBTs into the heterosexual lifestyle? There seems to be an obsession here.

Huh? Just Huh? Who said anything about "forcing" anyone into this or that lifestyle? The only "obsession" here is your obsession to see anyone who questions homosexuality as a would-be oppressor.

 

[Lysistrata]

Yes, I personally know people who used to engage in homosexual conduct and who repented of it and abandoned it.

The gay rights folks don't like to talk about the tens of thousands of people who have left the gay lifestyle. The website of the organization Parents and Friends of Ex-Gay (PFOX) is one good place to find accounts of people who have done this.

Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX) - Help, hope & community for ex-gays, parents, friends

Why is it so necessary for heterosexuals to force LGBTs into the heterosexual lifestyle? There seems to be an obsession here.

Huh? Just Huh? Who said anything about "forcing" anyone into this or that lifestyle? The only "obsession" here is your obsession to see anyone who questions homosexuality as a would-be oppressor.

Why would you "question" homosexuality? I'm trying to find out what your point is. Some heterosexuals, seemingly including you, are behaving very aggressively toward LGBTs, who are not doing the same toward you. What is this scapegoating thing about? LGBTs aren't trying to interfere with your legal rights and freedoms, but you seem to want to structure society so that they are at a disadvantage.

frankie graham sees to be having cows because Pete Buttigieg is gay and married, but Buttigieg doesn't seem to be having cows because graham is heterosexual and married.

What's happening? As they say now, stay in your own lane.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, I personally know people who used to engage in homosexual conduct and who repented of it and abandoned it.

The gay rights folks don't like to talk about the tens of thousands of people who have left the gay lifestyle. The website of the organization Parents and Friends of Ex-Gay (PFOX) is one good place to find accounts of people who have done this.

Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX) - Help, hope & community for ex-gays, parents, friends

LOL

Pray away the Gay

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Scat eating sodomites will burn in the pits of hell.

Are you nervous about something? What happens to the fornicators and the adulterers? If you had sex before you were married, or violated your vows in marriage, what do you think is going to happen to you?

Did you appear to take your marriage vows clothed in pure white?

I have repented for my sins. I have bathed in the blood of the lord...what about you?

I have a feeling YOU may be a scat eating sodomite yourself.

Turn or burn.

You are nuts. european-ancestored ex-Catholic heterosexual woman from the Jersey 'burbs, now living in Virginia. No. I'm not a fundie. On whose nightstand did you leave your purity ring?

That explains a lot...a Catholic. You should wash yourself in the blood of Jesus and repent your sins. If the shit eaters repented for their sins and did not return to them they would also receive forgiveness and avoid the fires of hell.

You live in a crazy mental world. I'm glad I'm not in it. I'm sorry for what you are going through. Please get some help.

I will pragy for you so that you will not boil in the

Scat eating sodomites will burn in the pits of hell.

Are you nervous about something? What happens to the fornicators and the adulterers? If you had sex before you were married, or violated your vows in marriage, what do you think is going to happen to you?

Did you appear to take your marriage vows clothed in pure white?

I have repented for my sins. I have bathed in the blood of the lord...what about you?

I have a feeling YOU may be a scat eating sodomite yourself.

Turn or burn.

You are nuts. european-ancestored ex-Catholic heterosexual woman from the Jersey 'burbs, now living in Virginia. No. I'm not a fundie. On whose nightstand did you leave your purity ring?

That explains a lot...a Catholic. You should wash yourself in the blood of Jesus and repent your sins. If the shit eaters repented for their sins and did not return to them they would also receive forgiveness and avoid the fires of hell.

You live in a crazy mental world. I'm glad I'm not in it. I'm sorry for what you are going through. Please get some help.

You are the one defending evil. Not me. Turn or burn...ex-Catholic.

 

[ding]

You don't have an option I agree with. It's not an even or kind of answer. It's way more complicated than you make it.

Then complicate it for us.

I don't have it all worked out.

But I can start on it with you.

Do you believe the Bible is God's perfect word?

Or do you believe it is man's understanding of God's perfect word?

No. It is not God's perfect word.

No. It is not man's understanding of God's perfect word.

It is writings that were audited by an elite group of scholars that found it to be an accurate representation of humanity and a superior philosphy for society to follow.

I can't read minds. I don't what the motives of the writers were. I suspect some of the Old Testament was designed to be a weapon used for military purposes. I suspect a lot of the New Testament was politically motivated. I think other parts of the Old Testament is a history book occassionally flavored with delicious embellishments to add emphasis to the story.

I see. Before I get into this with you, can you tell me how long you have believed that "It is writings that were audited by an elite group of scholars that found it to be an accurate representation of humanity and a superior philosphy for society to follow?"

Since late 2011 or early 2012 ish. So about 7-8 years.

OK, so you've lived a lie for 7 or 8 years.

Where do you think the accounts of the Bible came from exactly?

 

[ding]

You would have to abandon Christianity because why?

Seriously, dude, your criteria seems more than a little stringent and not even close to the mark.

To be a Christian, you only need to believe that God so loved mankind that he chose to be born into this world to testify to the truth and sacrificed himself to reconcile justice with mercy (.i.e. he paid for our sins). If one truly believes that, God will do the rest if we pay attention to him. Everything else will work itself out along that journey.

It is perfectly acceptable to have disagreements with what you PERCEIVE the bible says. You do not need to have perfect understanding. That can only come in time.

Because it teaches lies about homosexuality.

How do you know that exactly? What lies is it teaching?

That homosexuals are all reprobates with dysfunctional minds. That probably isn't true or nobody would hire them to work for their company.

You got all of that from the Bible?

Can you tell me what you believe homosexuals are?

It is all clearly explained in Roman's Chapter One.

I believe homosexuals are weird human beings but human beings nonetheless.

They are also a convenient scapegoat because we always have at least some homosexuals in any society. They are always a super minority thus ok to blame for all societies problems without offending the non homosexual majority. They know there is something weird about them homos anyways, so they buy it hook, line and sinker.

First of all they aren't weird. They are different. Specifically, their attraction to the same sex. That's what's different. Otherwise, they are just like everyone else, broken human beings for the most part.

They aren't scapegoats. No one is blaming them for anything that I am aware of. Yes, we should leave what is done in the bedroom in the bedroom. No, we shouldn't raise any one sin above another sin unless it is a mortal sin. I don't think promiscuity is a mortal sin. There's something about perpetual venial sins but no one is being murdered or bearing false witness against a neighbor or taking what's not theirs, right?

But is it clearly explained in Romans? If it were clearly explained in Romans you should be able to explain it to me in your own words, right? Go ahead because I don't believe you can.

 

[ding]

I have zero interest in living my life for other people. I am who I am. Don't like it? Tough shit.

Good for you.

According to Catholic thought, sin is anything which distances us from God.

We are distant when it comes to this topic, but quite close in a great deal of many others.

I like to start from positions of agreement and work from there. I find it much more productive. So I appreciate your comment that we are close in mindset on many things. I did suspect that.

But on this topic are you certain that we disagree? I'm not sure we agree on everything, but I don't believe we are as distant as you might believe. Here's why...

I met a friend in an online forum about ten years ago. Let's call him, Paul. Paul is an elderly gentleman and a devout Catholic. In fact, he almost became a priest but was washed out because he was considered to be too conservative for his superiors at that time. It seems that Paul took too much issue with Vatican II. Me being born in 1961, Vatican II was all I ever knew. But I digress. I met him at a time when I was finding my way back to faith. I considered him to be my mentor. I greatly respected him and his opinion. He is a much better man than I and a much much better Catholic than I.

In our conversations, Paul would make passing comments about his wife as everyone else does. Apparently she was the less devout Catholic in the marriage. Anyway, after several years, Paul reveals that his wife is a man. He later told me that he was worried about what I would think about him. Can you imagine that? He was worried about what I would think? It didn't change anything for me. I love Paul. I feel bad that he ever worried about what I would think. Why would it make any difference to me? Paul is a good man. God loves good men. For that matter, God loves all men. Even the bad ones.

Long story short, Paul and I discussed this subject in great depth. I argued that he wasn't sinning and he argued that he was. He thought I went to great lengths (i.e. convoluted logic) to rationalize my beliefs. And maybe at that time I did, but today I could not say it any simpler than if one believes that God so loved mankind that he chose to be born into this world to testify to the truth and sacrificed himself to reconcile justice with mercy (.i.e. he paid for our sins), then everything else will work itself out along that journey. I hold this to be true as long as one does not rationalize his behaviors.

So, are you certain we are distant when it comes to this topic?

Paul was sinning. He was right.

Maybe. But do you believe you are the judge of him? Isn't it for the judge to decide?

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Have you ever heard of a homosexual that *repented of the sin of homosexuality?

If not, does this prove that Romans 1 is true?

If so, does this prove that Romans 1 is a lie?

*Repent means to stop doing it.

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[Wyatt earp]

Have you ever heard of a homosexual that *repented of the sin of homosexuality?

If not, does this prove that Romans 1 is true?

If so, does this prove that Romans 1 is a lie?

*Repent means to stop doing it.

Repent doesn't mean stop doing it..



re·pent
/rəˈpent/
Learn to pronounce
verb

1. feel or express sincere regret or remorse about one's wrongdoing or sin.
   "the priest urged his listeners to repent"
   synonyms: feel remorse for, regret, be sorry for, rue, reproach oneself for, be ashamed of, feel contrite about, wish that one had not done something;

.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Those who spread hate on homosexuals need to repent

Ok we love you but stop taking it up the butt...


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[SweetSue92]

I have zero interest in living my life for other people. I am who I am. Don't like it? Tough shit.

Good for you.

According to Catholic thought, sin is anything which distances us from God.

We are distant when it comes to this topic, but quite close in a great deal of many others.

I like to start from positions of agreement and work from there. I find it much more productive. So I appreciate your comment that we are close in mindset on many things. I did suspect that.

But on this topic are you certain that we disagree? I'm not sure we agree on everything, but I don't believe we are as distant as you might believe. Here's why...

I met a friend in an online forum about ten years ago. Let's call him, Paul. Paul is an elderly gentleman and a devout Catholic. In fact, he almost became a priest but was washed out because he was considered to be too conservative for his superiors at that time. It seems that Paul took too much issue with Vatican II. Me being born in 1961, Vatican II was all I ever knew. But I digress. I met him at a time when I was finding my way back to faith. I considered him to be my mentor. I greatly respected him and his opinion. He is a much better man than I and a much much better Catholic than I.

In our conversations, Paul would make passing comments about his wife as everyone else does. Apparently she was the less devout Catholic in the marriage. Anyway, after several years, Paul reveals that his wife is a man. He later told me that he was worried about what I would think about him. Can you imagine that? He was worried about what I would think? It didn't change anything for me. I love Paul. I feel bad that he ever worried about what I would think. Why would it make any difference to me? Paul is a good man. God loves good men. For that matter, God loves all men. Even the bad ones.

Long story short, Paul and I discussed this subject in great depth. I argued that he wasn't sinning and he argued that he was. He thought I went to great lengths (i.e. convoluted logic) to rationalize my beliefs. And maybe at that time I did, but today I could not say it any simpler than if one believes that God so loved mankind that he chose to be born into this world to testify to the truth and sacrificed himself to reconcile justice with mercy (.i.e. he paid for our sins), then everything else will work itself out along that journey. I hold this to be true as long as one does not rationalize his behaviors.

So, are you certain we are distant when it comes to this topic?

Paul was sinning. He was right.

Maybe. But do you believe you are the judge of him? Isn't it for the judge to decide?

You usurped God, I hope you realize. God already told Paul what was going was sin. And Paul knew this. Then comes you, telling him, no no, no worries, this is not sin.

So here you are, accusing me of judging Paul, when in reality you have judged the God of all what is a Bad Judge and telling Paul and God that his commandments are wrong.

To be honest, ding. I have no use for this kind of "Christianity".

 

[SweetSue92]

Have you ever heard of a homosexual that *repented of the sin of homosexuality?

If not, does this prove that Romans 1 is true?

If so, does this prove that Romans 1 is a lie?

*Repent means to stop doing it.

Repent doesn't mean stop doing it..



re·pent
/rəˈpent/
Learn to pronounce
verb

1. feel or express sincere regret or remorse about one's wrongdoing or sin.
   "the priest urged his listeners to repent"
   synonyms: feel remorse for, regret, be sorry for, rue, reproach oneself for, be ashamed of, feel contrite about, wish that one had not done something;

.

Every single mention in the Bible of repentance means a turning from sin. You understand this too. IOW you can't repent from adultery but continue to have sex with your mistress every night. If you do, you haven't repented.

 

[ding]

Good for you.

According to Catholic thought, sin is anything which distances us from God.

We are distant when it comes to this topic, but quite close in a great deal of many others.

I like to start from positions of agreement and work from there. I find it much more productive. So I appreciate your comment that we are close in mindset on many things. I did suspect that.

But on this topic are you certain that we disagree? I'm not sure we agree on everything, but I don't believe we are as distant as you might believe. Here's why...

I met a friend in an online forum about ten years ago. Let's call him, Paul. Paul is an elderly gentleman and a devout Catholic. In fact, he almost became a priest but was washed out because he was considered to be too conservative for his superiors at that time. It seems that Paul took too much issue with Vatican II. Me being born in 1961, Vatican II was all I ever knew. But I digress. I met him at a time when I was finding my way back to faith. I considered him to be my mentor. I greatly respected him and his opinion. He is a much better man than I and a much much better Catholic than I.

In our conversations, Paul would make passing comments about his wife as everyone else does. Apparently she was the less devout Catholic in the marriage. Anyway, after several years, Paul reveals that his wife is a man. He later told me that he was worried about what I would think about him. Can you imagine that? He was worried about what I would think? It didn't change anything for me. I love Paul. I feel bad that he ever worried about what I would think. Why would it make any difference to me? Paul is a good man. God loves good men. For that matter, God loves all men. Even the bad ones.

Long story short, Paul and I discussed this subject in great depth. I argued that he wasn't sinning and he argued that he was. He thought I went to great lengths (i.e. convoluted logic) to rationalize my beliefs. And maybe at that time I did, but today I could not say it any simpler than if one believes that God so loved mankind that he chose to be born into this world to testify to the truth and sacrificed himself to reconcile justice with mercy (.i.e. he paid for our sins), then everything else will work itself out along that journey. I hold this to be true as long as one does not rationalize his behaviors.

So, are you certain we are distant when it comes to this topic?

Paul was sinning. He was right.

Maybe. But do you believe you are the judge of him? Isn't it for the judge to decide?

You usurped God, I hope you realize. God already told Paul what was going was sin. And Paul knew this. Then comes you, telling him, no no, no worries, this is not sin.

So here you are, accusing me of judging Paul, when in reality you have judged the God of all what is a Bad Judge and telling Paul and God that his commandments are wrong.

To be honest, ding. I have no use for this kind of "Christianity".

I did no such thing, my dear.

I didn't accuse you of judging anyone. I asked you a question. Are you the decider of who has sinned or is God?

 

[SweetSue92]

We are distant when it comes to this topic, but quite close in a great deal of many others.

I like to start from positions of agreement and work from there. I find it much more productive. So I appreciate your comment that we are close in mindset on many things. I did suspect that.

But on this topic are you certain that we disagree? I'm not sure we agree on everything, but I don't believe we are as distant as you might believe. Here's why...

I met a friend in an online forum about ten years ago. Let's call him, Paul. Paul is an elderly gentleman and a devout Catholic. In fact, he almost became a priest but was washed out because he was considered to be too conservative for his superiors at that time. It seems that Paul took too much issue with Vatican II. Me being born in 1961, Vatican II was all I ever knew. But I digress. I met him at a time when I was finding my way back to faith. I considered him to be my mentor. I greatly respected him and his opinion. He is a much better man than I and a much much better Catholic than I.

In our conversations, Paul would make passing comments about his wife as everyone else does. Apparently she was the less devout Catholic in the marriage. Anyway, after several years, Paul reveals that his wife is a man. He later told me that he was worried about what I would think about him. Can you imagine that? He was worried about what I would think? It didn't change anything for me. I love Paul. I feel bad that he ever worried about what I would think. Why would it make any difference to me? Paul is a good man. God loves good men. For that matter, God loves all men. Even the bad ones.

Long story short, Paul and I discussed this subject in great depth. I argued that he wasn't sinning and he argued that he was. He thought I went to great lengths (i.e. convoluted logic) to rationalize my beliefs. And maybe at that time I did, but today I could not say it any simpler than if one believes that God so loved mankind that he chose to be born into this world to testify to the truth and sacrificed himself to reconcile justice with mercy (.i.e. he paid for our sins), then everything else will work itself out along that journey. I hold this to be true as long as one does not rationalize his behaviors.

So, are you certain we are distant when it comes to this topic?

Paul was sinning. He was right.

Maybe. But do you believe you are the judge of him? Isn't it for the judge to decide?

You usurped God, I hope you realize. God already told Paul what was going was sin. And Paul knew this. Then comes you, telling him, no no, no worries, this is not sin.

So here you are, accusing me of judging Paul, when in reality you have judged the God of all what is a Bad Judge and telling Paul and God that his commandments are wrong.

To be honest, ding. I have no use for this kind of "Christianity".

I did no such thing, my dear.

I didn't accuse you of judging anyone. I asked you a question. Are you the decider of who has sinned or is God?

No, God is. It's in His Word. And if you don't believe the Word than why even bother to call yourself a Christian? Why believe any of it? Or are YOU the arbiter, able to choose the things you like and discard what you don't?

I guess you're the decider. Right?

 

[ding]

I like to start from positions of agreement and work from there. I find it much more productive. So I appreciate your comment that we are close in mindset on many things. I did suspect that.

But on this topic are you certain that we disagree? I'm not sure we agree on everything, but I don't believe we are as distant as you might believe. Here's why...

I met a friend in an online forum about ten years ago. Let's call him, Paul. Paul is an elderly gentleman and a devout Catholic. In fact, he almost became a priest but was washed out because he was considered to be too conservative for his superiors at that time. It seems that Paul took too much issue with Vatican II. Me being born in 1961, Vatican II was all I ever knew. But I digress. I met him at a time when I was finding my way back to faith. I considered him to be my mentor. I greatly respected him and his opinion. He is a much better man than I and a much much better Catholic than I.

In our conversations, Paul would make passing comments about his wife as everyone else does. Apparently she was the less devout Catholic in the marriage. Anyway, after several years, Paul reveals that his wife is a man. He later told me that he was worried about what I would think about him. Can you imagine that? He was worried about what I would think? It didn't change anything for me. I love Paul. I feel bad that he ever worried about what I would think. Why would it make any difference to me? Paul is a good man. God loves good men. For that matter, God loves all men. Even the bad ones.

Long story short, Paul and I discussed this subject in great depth. I argued that he wasn't sinning and he argued that he was. He thought I went to great lengths (i.e. convoluted logic) to rationalize my beliefs. And maybe at that time I did, but today I could not say it any simpler than if one believes that God so loved mankind that he chose to be born into this world to testify to the truth and sacrificed himself to reconcile justice with mercy (.i.e. he paid for our sins), then everything else will work itself out along that journey. I hold this to be true as long as one does not rationalize his behaviors.

So, are you certain we are distant when it comes to this topic?

Paul was sinning. He was right.

Maybe. But do you believe you are the judge of him? Isn't it for the judge to decide?

You usurped God, I hope you realize. God already told Paul what was going was sin. And Paul knew this. Then comes you, telling him, no no, no worries, this is not sin.

So here you are, accusing me of judging Paul, when in reality you have judged the God of all what is a Bad Judge and telling Paul and God that his commandments are wrong.

To be honest, ding. I have no use for this kind of "Christianity".

I did no such thing, my dear.

I didn't accuse you of judging anyone. I asked you a question. Are you the decider of who has sinned or is God?

No, God is. It's in His Word. And if you don't believe the Word than why even bother to call yourself a Christian? Why believe any of it? Or are YOU the arbiter, able to choose the things you like and discard what you don't?

I guess you're the decider. Right?

Do you place the Bible above God or God above the Bible?

 

[ding]

I guess you're the decider. Right?

My argument is that God is the decider.

If you recall I answered maybe. You are the only one who has decided.

 

[ding]

Paul was sinning. He was right.

Maybe.

See?

 

[Polishprince]

Have you ever heard of a homosexual that *repented of the sin of homosexuality?

If not, does this prove that Romans 1 is true?

If so, does this prove that Romans 1 is a lie?

*Repent means to stop doing it.

Sure, that's happened plenty of times.

I was reading about Dr. Paul Cameron. He being a homosexual at aged 3, and straightened himself out at age 10.

There have been plenty of others as well, who decided for one reason or another to give up the anal intercourse habit and stay on the straight and narrow.