radicals form group calling for defense of mueller

[del]

Their timing could not be better. A day after reports surfaced that President Trump wanted to fire special counsel Robert S. Mueller III in December (in addition to an earlier effort in June), five veteran Republicans have formed a new organization, Republicans for the Rule of Law, seeking to restrain the president from doing exactly that. Bill Kristol (editor at large for the Weekly Standard), Mona Charen (a veteran of the Ronald Reagan administration who recently made a splash at the Conservative Political Action Conference), Linda Chavez (another Reagan administration veteran), Sarah Longwell (a longtime GOP consultant and chairman of the Log Cabin Republicans) and Andy Zwick (executive director of the Foundation for Constitutional Government) launched the group.

Opinion | Just in time: A new Republican group seeks to protect Mueller

only radicals believe in the rule of law now, it seems.

video at link

 

[Moonglow]

It's one man ego against another man's ignorance...

 

[BluesLegend]

Does the Constitution grant the president the authority to fire Mueller? Well there you have it, this is why the branches of government are separate, congress doesn't rule the executive branch.

 

[del]

Does the Constitution grant the president the authority to fire Mueller? Well there you have it, this is why the branches of government are separate, congress doesn't rule the executive branch.

please show where in the constitution special counsels are mentioned

i'll wait

 

[L.K.Eder]

Does the Constitution grant the president the authority to fire Mueller? Well there you have it, this is why the branches of government are separate, congress doesn't rule the executive branch.

please cite the passage in the constitution granting the president the authority to fire a special counsel.

i can cite this:

§ 600.7 Conduct and accountability.

(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.


HAHAHAHA

 

[OldLady]

Does the Constitution grant the president the authority to fire Mueller? Well there you have it, this is why the branches of government are separate, congress doesn't rule the executive branch.

please cite the passage in the constitution granting the president the authority to fire a special counsel.

i can cite this:

§ 600.7 Conduct and accountability.

(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.


HAHAHAHA

But Sarah Sanders SEZ (yesterday at the daily press briefing) that they have been told that the President can fire him. So there.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Does the Constitution grant the president the authority to fire Mueller? Well there you have it, this is why the branches of government are separate, congress doesn't rule the executive branch.

please cite the passage in the constitution granting the president the authority to fire a special counsel.

i can cite this:

§ 600.7 Conduct and accountability.

(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.


HAHAHAHA

But Sarah Sanders SEZ (yesterday at the daily press briefing) that they have been told that the President can fire him. So there.

he can order rosenstein to fire mueller. that's about it.

 

[TNHarley]

I find it weird everyone but trump is talking about trump firing him..

 

[del]

it worked out well for nixon

i say go for it

 

[TNHarley]

I also find it weird the "law and order party" wants all the criminals to walk free

 

[del]

I find it weird everyone but trump is talking about trump firing him..

you should get out more.

he's talked and tweeted about it, and tried to do it at least once.

 

[OldLady]

Does the Constitution grant the president the authority to fire Mueller? Well there you have it, this is why the branches of government are separate, congress doesn't rule the executive branch.

please cite the passage in the constitution granting the president the authority to fire a special counsel.

i can cite this:

§ 600.7 Conduct and accountability.

(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.


HAHAHAHA

But Sarah Sanders SEZ (yesterday at the daily press briefing) that they have been told that the President can fire him. So there.

he can order rosenstein to fire mueller. that's about it.

The reporter specifically asked her that way---Mueller, not Rosenstein. She said what she said, which means someone has told the President he can do it.

 

[TNHarley]

I find it weird everyone but trump is talking about trump firing him..

you should get out more.

he's talked and tweeted about it, and tried to do it at least once.

He has talked about firing him? I have seen him ridicule him but thats about it. Of course, im not in to social media and all that shit

 

[OldLady]

I find it weird everyone but trump is talking about trump firing him..

you should get out more.

he's talked and tweeted about it, and tried to do it at least once.

twice
and he said "we'll see." "We'll see" is his way of saying "I'm going to do something unpopular and I don't feel like listening to you bitch about it, so I'm just going to say we'll see."

 

[Valerie]

FTR:





9-13.000 - Obtaining Evidence | USAM | Department of Justice

U.S. Attorneys » Resources » U.S. Attorneys' Manual » Title 9: Criminal

9-13.420 - Searches of Premises of Subject Attorneys
NOTE: For purposes of this policy only, "subject" includes an attorney who is a "suspect, subject or target," or an attorney who is related by blood or marriage to a suspect, or who is believed to be in possession of contraband or the fruits or instrumentalities of a crime. This policy also applies to searches of business organizations where such searches involve materials in the possession of individuals serving in the capacity of legal advisor to the organization. Search warrants for "documentary materials" held by an attorney who is a "disinterested third party" (that is, any attorney who is not a subject) are governed by 28 C.F.R. 59.4 and USAM 9-19.221 et seq. See also 42 U.S.C. Section 2000aa-11(a)(3).

There are occasions when effective law enforcement may require the issuance of a search warrant for the premises of an attorney who is a subject of an investigation, and who also is or may be engaged in the practice of law on behalf of clients. Because of the potential effects of this type of search on legitimate attorney-client relationships and because of the possibility that, during such a search, the government may encounter material protected by a legitimate claim of privilege, it is important that close control be exercised over this type of search. Therefore, the following guidelines should be followed with respect to such searches:

1. Alternatives to Search Warrants. In order to avoid impinging on valid attorney-client relationships, prosecutors are expected to take the least intrusive approach consistent with vigorous and effective law enforcement when evidence is sought from an attorney actively engaged in the practice of law. Consideration should be given to obtaining information from other sources or through the use of a subpoena, unless such efforts could compromise the criminal investigation or prosecution, or could result in the obstruction or destruction of evidence, or would otherwise be ineffective. NOTE: Prior approval must be obtained from the Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division to issue a subpoena to an attorney relating to the representation of a client. See USAM 9-13.410.
2. Authorization by United States Attorney or Assistant Attorney General. No application for such a search warrant may be made to a court without the express approval of the United States Attorney or pertinent Assistant Attorney General. Ordinarily, authorization of an application for such a search warrant is appropriate when there is a strong need for the information or material and less intrusive means have been considered and rejected.
3. Prior Consultation. In addition to obtaining approval from the United States Attorney or the pertinent Assistant Attorney General, and before seeking judicial authorization for the search warrant, the federal prosecutor must consult with the Criminal Division. NOTE: Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Criminal Division as early as possible regarding a possible search of an attorney's office. Telephone No. (202) 305-4023; Fax No. (202) 305-0562.
   To facilitate the consultation, the prosecutor should submit the attached form (see Criminal Resource Manual at 265) containing relevant information about the proposed search along with a draft copy of the proposed search warrant, affidavit in support thereof, and any special instructions to the searching agents regarding search procedures and procedures to be followed to ensure that the prosecution team is not "tainted" by any privileged material inadvertently seized during the search. This information should be submitted to the Criminal Division through the Office of Enforcement Operations. This procedure does not preclude any United States Attorney or Assistant Attorney General from discussing the matter personally with the Assistant Attorney General of the Criminal Division.
   
   If exigent circumstances prevent such prior consultation, the Criminal Division should be notified of the search as promptly as possible. In all cases, the Criminal Division should be provided as promptly as possible with a copy of the judicially authorized search warrant, search warrant affidavit, and any special instructions to the searching agents.
   
   The Criminal Division is committed to ensuring that consultation regarding attorney search warrant requests will not delay investigations. Timely processing will be assisted if the Criminal Division is provided as much information about the search as early as possible. The Criminal Division should also be informed of any deadlines.
   
   
4. Safeguarding Procedures and Contents of the Affidavit. Procedures should be designed to ensure that privileged materials are not improperly viewed, seized or retained during the course of the search. While the procedures to be followed should be tailored to the facts of each case and the requirements and judicial preferences and precedents of each district, in all cases a prosecutor must employ adequate precautions to ensure that the materials are reviewed for privilege claims and that any privileged documents are returned to the attorney from whom they were seized.
5. Conducting the Search. The search warrant should be drawn as specifically as possible, consistent with the requirements of the investigation, to minimize the need to search and review privileged material to which no exception applies.
   While every effort should be made to avoid viewing privileged material, the search may require limited review of arguably privileged material to ascertain whether the material is covered by the warrant. Therefore, to protect the attorney-client privilege and to ensure that the investigation is not compromised by exposure to privileged material relating to the investigation or to defense strategy, a "privilege team" should be designated, consisting of agents and lawyers not involved in the underlying investigation.
   
   Instructions should be given and thoroughly discussed with the privilege team prior to the search. The instructions should set forth procedures designed to minimize the intrusion into privileged material, and should ensure that the privilege team does not disclose any information to the investigation/prosecution team unless and until so instructed by the attorney in charge of the privilege team. Privilege team lawyers should be available either on or off-site, to advise the agents during the course of the search, but should not participate in the search itself.
   
   The affidavit in support of the search warrant may attach any written instructions or, at a minimum, should generally state the government's intention to employ procedures designed to ensure that attorney-client privileges are not violated.
   
   If it is anticipated that computers will be searched or seized, prosecutors are expected to follow the procedures set forth in the current edition of Searching and Seizing Computers, published by CCIPS.
   
   
6. Review Procedures. The following review procedures should be discussed prior to approval of any warrant, consistent with the practice in your district, the circumstances of the investigation and the volume of materials seized.
   • Who will conduct the review, i.e., a privilege team, a judicial officer, or a special master.
   • Whether all documents will be submitted to a judicial officer or special master or only those which a privilege team has determined to be arguably privileged or arguably subject to an exception to the privilege.
   • Whether copies of all seized materials will be provided to the subject attorney (or a legal representative) in order that: a) disruption of the law firm's operation is minimized; and b) the subject is afforded an opportunity to participate in the process of submitting disputed documents to the court by raising specific claims of privilege. To the extent possible, providing copies of seized records is encouraged, where such disclosure will not impede or obstruct the investigation.
   • Whether appropriate arrangements have been made for storage and handling of electronic evidence and procedures developed for searching computer data (i.e., procedures which recognize the universal nature of computer seizure and are designed to avoid review of materials implicating the privilege of innocent clients).

These guidelines are set forth solely for the purpose of internal Department of Justice guidance. They are not intended to, do not, and may not be relied upon to create any rights, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law by any party in any matter, civil or criminal, nor do they place any limitations on otherwise lawful investigative or litigative prerogatives of the Department of Justice.

See the Criminal Resource Manual at 265, for an attorney office search warrant form.

[cited in Criminal Resource Manual 265]

 

[Valerie]

FBI Raid


Approved by Rosenstein

"Mueller brought information involving Cohen to Rosenstein, who decided that the inquiry should be handled by federal prosecutors in New York, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Under Justice Department regulations, Mueller must consult with Rosenstein about how to handle evidence and matters that may fall outside his jurisdiction."

 

[Valerie]

Justice Department followed the law in FBI raid on Michael Cohen.

Donald Trump has it backwards on 'an attack on our country'

 

[TNHarley]

"many people have said i need to fire him. Well see what happens"
I stand corrected

 

[OldLady]

Justice Department followed the law in FBI raid on Michael Cohen.

Donald Trump has it backwards on 'an attack on our country'

Yeah, well what's new. My god, maybe he should fire ANOTHER advisor or two. The man really has no clue, does he? Domestically, we will survive and mop up his mess when he's out. His lame-brainess doesn't do well in foreign policy, though. That could be a disaster.

 

[del]

I find it weird everyone but trump is talking about trump firing him..

you should get out more.

he's talked and tweeted about it, and tried to do it at least once.

He has talked about firing him? I have seen him ridicule him but thats about it. Of course, im not in to social media and all that shit

neither am i.