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    Those who oppose the personal mandate, do you also oppose the mandate requiring people to buy car insurance?

    Is not the reasoning behind the two (making people buy insurance so others don't have to cover their costs when they get in an accident or go to the ER) the same?
     
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    Ahh finally someone posts this quandry.
     
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    It should also be mentioned, The Mandate was originally a Republican idea..Back in the Clinton years. I believe Orrin Hatch was one of the first people to intruduce the idea.
     
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    That's not what financial responsibility laws regarding auto insurance are meant to address.

    Auto liability insurance is not for your vehicle, it's for the property you damage while using it, or the people you injure.

    This question comes up all the time. You must have heard this before.
     
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    If you don't want to pay, don't get sick, get hit by a car, get hit by a stray bullet...

    In all likelihood, you're going to go to a hospital or clinic at some point in your life. If you don't have insurance, you're likely to only go when it's serious. This has led to ERs being flooded with cases they shouldn't be dealing with. This is a drain on everyone, and the hospital either raises prices for everyone else or gets the money from taxpayers. In my hometown, most of the ERs were shut down because they couldn't afford it anymore, due in large part to this very problem.

    Now, you can say 'what about free clinics?', but then you're back to the same problem- how to pay for it. If it's public, it's still tax money- you've not really solved the problem, though you might alleviate it by offering regular care to prevent major complications. You can say it should be left to private parties, but those parties are too few in number and resources, which is why we have this problem to begin with- and the same objection goes both ways: why can't churches and non-profits buy people car insurance, too?
    Very nice...
    See above.

    So the objection to the mandate is that there are wetbacks and other criminals in existence?
     
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    And mandated health insurance isn't about your body. It's about the taxdollars you cost when you show up in the ER because you didn't get regular healthcare because you had no insurance. Both are about the way your actions/choices effect other people.
     
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    Wondering what would happen in the automobile insurance market place if the government mandated that drivers could wait until they had an accident before purchasing their liability and collision policies by simply paying a small annual fine with their taxes? What would happen to auto insurance rates? And when the rates exploded what if the government rejected the increases in premiums? Does that sound like a system that would work?
     
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    I would not be opposed to the Health Insurance mandate if it were not that the only option they want to provide is a bureaucratic nightmare with the specific designs of forcing us into another social program trap.

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    So it's the Public option and management at the federal level you oppose, rather than the mandate itself?
     
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