President Obama sides with citizens infuriating Dicators and Republicans.

[The T]

Am I the only person who is sick and tired of that Bush Lied crap?

He had Powell do it

I don't know and I don't care....We non-interventionist types are like that.

I do know that American air power will be nowhere to be seen, so it's fairly safe to say that the vote from America was....

"Present"

Libya resolution: UN security council air strikes vote - as it happened | World news | guardian.co.uk

Voting for the resolution

Permanent members: United States, Britain, France
Non-permanent members:: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Colombia, Gabon, Lebanon, Nigeria, Portugal, South Africa

Abstentions

Permanent members: Russia, China
Non-permanent members: Germany, Brazil, India

It took FRANCE and Britain...and NOT obama for it.

Sorry...FAIL in Leadership of Obama...

 

[WillowTree]

Today President Obama made it clear that Libyan Dictator Qaddafi could no longer slaughter citizens seeking an end to his 42 year rule which infuritated Despots, Dictators, Theocrats, Terrorists, American Conservatives and Republicans.

I guess when President George W. Bush was talking about democracy "flowering" in the Middle East..this isn't exactly what he meant.

Good to know he's talking tough. Meanwhile, Britain and France and actually cracking on with getting a 'no fly' zone in place.

Good for them. Not the US though. We've gone through enough shit for the middle east.

 

[Dot Com]

Am I the only person who is sick and tired of that Bush Lied crap?

He had Powell do it

Libya resolution: UN security council air strikes vote - as it happened | World news | guardian.co.uk

Voting for the resolution

Permanent members: United States, Britain, France
Non-permanent members:: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Colombia, Gabon, Lebanon, Nigeria, Portugal, South Africa

Abstentions

Permanent members: Russia, China
Non-permanent members: Germany, Brazil, India

POWELL was against GW Bush...Try again?

I'm not going to waste my time educating dopes like yourself suffice it to say, Powell was used as a fall guy to lie to the U.N. Why do you think he has next to no credibility now.

READ A BOOK ONCE IN A WHILE TEA BAGGERS!!!

the T and Oddball agreeing w/ each other LOL

 

[The T]

He had Powell do it

Libya resolution: UN security council air strikes vote - as it happened | World news | guardian.co.uk

POWELL was against GW Bush...Try again?

I'm not going to waste my time educating dopes like yourself suffice it to say, Powell was used as a fall guy to lie to the U.N. Why do you think he has next to no credibility now.

READ A BOOK ONCE IN A WHILE TEA BAGGERS!!!

the T and Oddball agreeing w/ each other LOL

*I* used to think NO ONE was this stupid...Congrats for upping the ante.

 

[Trajan]

still waiting sallow...Bahrain, Yemen? anytime now...hurry people are dieing and I have a Tee time....

 

[Oddball]

The impending resignation of Hillary is now starting to make a lot more sense to me.

 

[The T]

The impending resignation of Hillary is now starting to make a lot more sense to me.

It certainly is.

 

[KissMy]

Today President Obama made it clear that Libyan Dictator Qaddafi could no longer slaughter citizens seeking an end to his 42 year rule which infuritated Despots, Dictators, Theocrats, Terrorists, American Conservatives and Republicans.

I guess when President George W. Bush was talking about democracy "flowering" in the Middle East..this isn't exactly what he meant.

Pre-Obama, For years republicans secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning for a “regime change” in 2011.

 

[Trajan]

The impending resignation of Hillary is now starting to make a lot more sense to me.

check this......frankly I almost feel sorry for her....its 3:00 am, she picks up the phone...and it friggin Obama changing his mind again.


European governments “completely puzzled” about U.S. position on Libya
Posted By Josh Rogin Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's meetings in Paris with the G8 foreign ministers on Monday left her European interlocutors with more questions than answers about the Obama administration's stance on intervention in Libya.

Inside the foreign ministers' meeting, a loud and contentious debate erupted about whether to move forward with stronger action to halt Col. Muammar al-Qaddafi's campaign against the Libyan rebels and the violence being perpetrated against civilians. Britain and France argued for immediate action while Germany and Russia opposed such a move, according to two European diplomats who were briefed on the meeting.

Clinton stayed out of the fray, repeating the administration's position that all options are on the table but not specifically endorsing any particular step. She also did not voice support for stronger action in the near term, such as a no-fly zone or military aid to the rebels, both diplomats said.

"The way the U.S. acted was to let the Germans and the Russians block everything, which announced for us an alignment with the Germans as far as we are concerned," one of the diplomats told The Cable.

Clinton's unwillingness to commit the United States to a specific position led many in the room to wonder exactly where the administration stood on the situation in Libya.

"Frankly we are just completely puzzled," the diplomat said. "We are wondering if this is a priority for the United States."

On the same day, Clinton had a short meeting with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, in which Sarkozy pressed Clinton to come out more forcefully in favor of action in Libya. She declined Sarkozy's request, according to a government source familiar with the meeting.

Sarkozy told Clinton that "we need action now" and she responded to him, "there are difficulties," the source said, explaining that Clinton was referring to China and Russia's opposition to intervention at the United Nations. Sarkozy replied that the United States should at least try to overcome the difficulties by leading a strong push at the U.N., but Clinton simply repeated, "There are difficulties."

One diplomat, who supports stronger action in Libya, contended that the United States' lack of clarity on this issue is only strengthening those who oppose action.

"The risk we run is to look weak because we've asked him to leave and we aren't taking any action to support our rhetoric and that has consequences on the ground and in the region," said the European diplomat.

British and French frustration with the lack of international will to intervene in Libya is growing. British Prime Minister David Cameron said on Tuesday that Arab sentiment was, "if you don't show your support for the Libyan people and for democracy at this time, you are saying you will intervene only when it's about your security, but you won't help when it's about our democracy."

France sent letters on Wednesday to all the members of the U.N. Security Council, which is discussing a Lebanon-sponsored resolution to implement a no-fly zone, calling on them to support the resolution, as has been requested by the Arab League.

"Together, we can save the martyred people of Libya. It is now a matter of days, if not hours. The worst would be that the appeal of the League of the Arab States and the Security Council decisions be overruled by the force of arms," the letter stated.

French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe wrote on his blog, "It is not enough to proclaim, as did almost all of the major democracies that ‘Qaddafi must go.' We must give ourselves the means to effectively assist those who took up arms against his dictatorship."

In an interview with the BBC on Wednesday in Cairo, Clinton pointed to the U.N. Security Council as the proper venue for any decision to be made and she pushed back at the contention by the British and the French that the U.S. was dragging its feet.


more at-

European governments

 

[The T]

Today President Obama made it clear that Libyan Dictator Qaddafi could no longer slaughter citizens seeking an end to his 42 year rule which infuritated Despots, Dictators, Theocrats, Terrorists, American Conservatives and Republicans.

I guess when President George W. Bush was talking about democracy "flowering" in the Middle East..this isn't exactly what he meant.

Pre-Obama, For years republicans secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning for a “regime change” in 2011.

Destined to be a classic around here.

 

[Oddball]

Am I the only person who is sick and tired of that Bush Lied crap?

He had Powell do it

Libya resolution: UN security council air strikes vote - as it happened | World news | guardian.co.uk

Voting for the resolution

Permanent members: United States, Britain, France
Non-permanent members:: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Colombia, Gabon, Lebanon, Nigeria, Portugal, South Africa

Abstentions

Permanent members: Russia, China
Non-permanent members: Germany, Brazil, India

Let's take that vote at face value.

If you know that your UN delegate is going to vote that way, what stops you from getting out in front of them and, at least, acting like a leader?

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[LordBrownTrout]

still waiting sallow...Bahrain, Yemen? anytime now...hurry people are dieing and I have a Tee time....

Whew!! Just in time. O just picked the women's tourney brackets. I was starting to get concerned.

 

[The T]

Am I the only person who is sick and tired of that Bush Lied crap?

He had Powell do it

Libya resolution: UN security council air strikes vote - as it happened | World news | guardian.co.uk

Voting for the resolution

Permanent members: United States, Britain, France
Non-permanent members:: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Colombia, Gabon, Lebanon, Nigeria, Portugal, South Africa

Abstentions

Permanent members: Russia, China
Non-permanent members: Germany, Brazil, India

Let's take that vote at face value.

If you know that your UN delegate is going to vote that way, what stops you from getting out in front of them and, at least, acting like a leader?

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Highlighted for effect. Thing is? There isn't ANY leadership...only followinjg what the EU has become...but fancy the EU LEADING in this instance when they were waiting for OBAMA to do so?


Guess they couldn't wait any longer...and ODD that the EU financially is moving away from their Socialistic tendancies...because they cannot afford it? But yet Der Leader...the Ammaculatd OBAMA...follows behind in their trail by a few years of what they are rejecting?

No Stone unturned...Guess Obama can't tell that those stones have already been turned over? Perhaps the EU shoulda left a sticky-note or two to tell us NOT to follow their path?

 

[Zander]

He is an amazing leader.

 

[Dot Com]

Your post is a "present". ZZZzzz Add to that The T's posts. All blather. C ya trolls. :wave:

 

[The T]

Your post is a "present". ZZZzzz Add to that The T's posts. All blather. C ya trolls. :wave:

Does this mean you renounce USMB? GOOD.

Get lost ya fuckin' TROLL.

 

[blu]

Today President Obama made it clear that Libyan Dictator Qaddafi could no longer slaughter citizens seeking an end to his 42 year rule which infuritated Despots, Dictators, Theocrats, Terrorists, American Conservatives and Republicans.

Real easy to do, after the UN and EU have done all the heavy lifting.

I'd actually be behind him, if he came out and said that this is none of America's affair and we need to let people on the other side of the world deal with their own problems.

But nope...He dithered, played golf, filled out his brackets and is doing the shuffle off to Rio, after limply jumping on the pile like a safety at the end of a football play.

Basically, he voted "present" again.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Today President Obama made it clear that Libyan Dictator Qaddafi could no longer slaughter citizens seeking an end to his 42 year rule which infuritated Despots, Dictators, Theocrats, Terrorists, American Conservatives and Republicans.

I guess when President George W. Bush was talking about democracy "flowering" in the Middle East..this isn't exactly what he meant.

Absolute proof that liberals live in a world of their own.

Newsflash, Qaddafi has been killing his citizens for a month now, what makes you think Obama's posturing is going to change anything?

By the way, guess who said this:

This is the greatest opportunity to realign our interests and our values

Oops, I guess that was obvious, even if it does sound like Bush.

How Obama turned on a dime toward war | The Cable

The sad thing here is that if Bush had been calling for us to go to war in Libya, and had not gone to Congress for permission before publicly committing us to a third war in the Middle East, you would be screaming for his impeachment.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The Sec of State was the one who also demanded that military action be an option to counter Q's slaughtering of civilians. That demand goes beyond a no-fly zone and was inserted in the resolution at her insistence. They both deserve praise. Repubs/conservatives/Theocrats will be upset no doubt.

Funny how the people who were actually there when the decision was made say you got the facts wrong.

"In the case of Libya, they just threw out their playbook," said Steve Clemons, the foreign policy chief at the New America Foundation. "The fact that Obama pivoted on a dime shows that the White House is flying without a strategy and that we have a reactive presidency right now and not a strategic one."
Inside the administration, senior officials were lined up on both sides. Pushing for military intervention was a group of NSC staffers including Samantha Power, NSC senior director for multilateral engagement; Gayle Smith, NSC senior director for global development; and Mike McFaul, NSC senior director for Russia. .
On the other side of the ledger were some Obama administration officials who were reportedly wary of the second- and third-degree effects of committing to a lengthy military mission in Libya. These officials included National Security Advisor Tom Donilon and Deputy National Security Advisor Denis McDonough. Defense Secretary Robert Gates was also opposed to attacking Libya and had said as much in several public statements.

How Obama turned on a dime toward war | The Cable

 

[The T]

Today President Obama made it clear that Libyan Dictator Qaddafi could no longer slaughter citizens seeking an end to his 42 year rule which infuritated Despots, Dictators, Theocrats, Terrorists, American Conservatives and Republicans.

I guess when President George W. Bush was talking about democracy "flowering" in the Middle East..this isn't exactly what he meant.

Absolute proof that liberals live in a world of their own.

Newsflash, Qaddafi has been killing his citizens for a month now, what makes you think Obama's posturing is going to change anything?

By the way, guess who said this:

This is the greatest opportunity to realign our interests and our values

How Obama turned on a dime toward war | The Cable

The sad thing here is that if Bush had been calling for us to go to war in Libya, and had not gone to Congress for permission before publicly committing us to a third war in the Middle East, you would be screaming for his impeachment.

Oops, I guess that was obvious, even if it foes sound like Bush.

Obama as it shows appears to be a political oppritunist...And when it takes a couple of EU signees to lead in the UN because of his inaction?

Sallow? Bud? You really need to wake the HELL UP. Obama is taking your country down the path of destruction...and you appear to applaud it.

The POTUS is making you, ME, and this Republic look like inept ASSHOLES...and you seem NOT to care...

Why?