"Palestine" to Deny Citizenship to 45% of its Pal Residents

[Billo_Really]

Geez the illiterate Jew hater gets exposed, and starts babbling in tongues. What a fucking freak show.

Nothing shows your racist, psychotic brain more, than your accusations of the jew-hating-jew.

Keep it up, so the entire world can see just how fucked you really are.

 

[Billo_Really]

i treat people with respect when they treat me with respect, and i usually treat them with respect even if they do not treat me that way. but when they don't treat me that way, it is my call on the respect/disrespect angle, and a crap shoot...i may, or i may not.

and i am not talking about it anymore because i don't like talking about people in the third person.

Loinboy would like to compliment reabhloideach on his sense of decency.

Loinboy would also like to say to reabhloideach, in regards to Hossfly, he does have a funny side, albeit a little dark.

 

[patrickcaturday]

Docmauser's post is truly deceptive as Reabhloideach states especially to individuals such as myself who are not as tech savey as they probably should be, I guess I am not a GENIUS. My question to docmauser is why he did not seperate the two and provide seperate links to each so there would be no confusion, I hope that it was not a deliberate deception on his part. ...This would have the effect of depriving them of the right to the land or for compensation to that land something Israel has acknowledged they have at least twice before in UN resolutions 181 and 273 !!! Once again thanks Reabhloideach and I hope that I will not be fooled by that trick again !!!

Oh, bog off!

Oh I am just cut to the quick by your debating skills, I hope I don't get blood on the floor. Yoy must have been the envy of your high school class, oh I forgot you didn't make it that far, maybe grade school, still to advanced for you, well at least your kindergarten.

P.S. next time try quoting the whole post unless that is to hard for you !!!

 

[docmauser1]

He doesn't give a shit about Palestinian refugees or Palestinian's in general.

That palistaniacally silly allegation can't be more further from the truth, of course. There's no refuge from reality.

You should read his other posts applauding ethnic cleansing, the illegal occupation, the immoral blockade, etc. Even in the OP, he tried to spin comments by the Palestinian ambassador into another "wipe Israel off the map" speech. If you want to compliment him, that's your business. I just want to offer you a little more information as to what it is you are complimenting. Why should they have to leave an area that has been home to them for generations?

Because they're settling-squatting losers, of course, and the progressive international community should seriously consider putting an end to the palistanian national-socialist enterprise and undertake a noble task of their humanitarin relocation so that the latter become productive members of the international community.

 

[irosie91]

for those who have forgotten or simply never knew----efforts to get CITIZENSHIP for palestinian "refugees" have been resisted in the past-----because once a palestinian "refugee" has a citizenship----MOST OF THE WORLD defines him as no longer a "REFUGEE" A few decades ago Canada offered to provide citizenship to a significant number of palestinians----to EASE THE PROBLEM-----angry muslims threatened terrorist action to avert the evil. In general ---muslims define even those palestinians who settled elsewhere and do get a citizensihip as REFUGEES FOREVER and forever in the fight to destroy "THE ZIONIST ENTITY"

 

[P F Tinmore]

He doesn't give a shit about Palestinian refugees or Palestinian's in general.

That palistaniacally silly allegation can't be more further from the truth, of course. There's no refuge from reality.

You should read his other posts applauding ethnic cleansing, the illegal occupation, the immoral blockade, etc. Even in the OP, he tried to spin comments by the Palestinian ambassador into another "wipe Israel off the map" speech. If you want to compliment him, that's your business. I just want to offer you a little more information as to what it is you are complimenting. Why should they have to leave an area that has been home to them for generations?

Because they're settling-squatting losers, of course, and the progressive international community should seriously consider putting an end to the palistanian national-socialist enterprise and undertake a noble task of their humanitarin relocation so that the latter become productive members of the international community.

so that the latter become productive members of the international community

Like they were before Israel stole all their stuff.

 

[SAYIT]

Te underlined part is a hyper-link to the source material, genius

Or are you too busy spewing nonsense to actually check?

Docmauser's post is truly deceptive as Reabhloideach states especially to individuals such as myself who are not as tech savey as they probably should be, I guess I am not a GENIUS. My question to docmauser is why he did not seperate the two and provide seperate links to each so there would be no confusion, I hope that it was not a deliberate deception on his part.

I did not realize that the underlined part was from two articles until Reabhloideach pointed it out and was really confused because the last paragraph is not in line with what the Ambassador has said in the past !!!. In an article in the Daily star some time ago ( I have not been able to find it ) Abdullah states that the reason that the refugees would not be given automatic citizenship is that it would automatically void their refugee status and thus terminate their UN Right of Return. This would make all future claims against Israel for land that they were driven off of in the 48 and 67 war null and void. This would have the effect of depriving them of the right to the land or for compensation to that land something Israel has acknowledged they have at least twice before in UN resolutions 181 and 273 !!!

Maybe we should concentrate on Israel's lack of integrity and basic dishonesty instead of distorting the PA's attempt to secure the rights of the refugees.

Frankly PatCat, for one who pretends to be concerned about the plight of those poor, poor put-upon "Palestinians," you sure come up lame when faced with the reality of their true agenda. The exclusion of 56% of current residents of what may someday constitute a "Palestinian" state from citizenship (not to mention the 1.6 million "Palestinians" inside Israel) is their way of creating a two-tiered class of citizens ... first on board get all the benefits. Your desire to deflect this conversation into an "Israel's lack of integrity" one proves not "Israel's lack of integrity" but rather your own and your fraudulent "concern" for those hapless "Palestinians."

"But the state Abdullah foresees would deny equal participation, and hence fair representation at the United Nations and other international bodies, not only to the 5.3 million refugees living outside historic Palestine, as Goodwin-Gill warned, but also to nearly two million inside the 1967 territories. These comprise 45% of the West Bank’s Palestinian population and a whopping 67% of the Gaza Strip’s, excluding a total of 56% of the proposed state’s residents from citizenship. And this does not count 1.6 million Palestinians inside Israel, including hundreds of thousands of internally-displaced refugees."
Who would be considered a citizen in a new state of Palestine? | Mondoweiss

 

[P F Tinmore]

Docmauser's post is truly deceptive as Reabhloideach states especially to individuals such as myself who are not as tech savey as they probably should be, I guess I am not a GENIUS. My question to docmauser is why he did not seperate the two and provide seperate links to each so there would be no confusion, I hope that it was not a deliberate deception on his part.

I did not realize that the underlined part was from two articles until Reabhloideach pointed it out and was really confused because the last paragraph is not in line with what the Ambassador has said in the past !!!. In an article in the Daily star some time ago ( I have not been able to find it ) Abdullah states that the reason that the refugees would not be given automatic citizenship is that it would automatically void their refugee status and thus terminate their UN Right of Return. This would make all future claims against Israel for land that they were driven off of in the 48 and 67 war null and void. This would have the effect of depriving them of the right to the land or for compensation to that land something Israel has acknowledged they have at least twice before in UN resolutions 181 and 273 !!!

Maybe we should concentrate on Israel's lack of integrity and basic dishonesty instead of distorting the PA's attempt to secure the rights of the refugees.

Frankly PatCat, for one who pretends to be concerned about the plight of those poor, poor put-upon "Palestinians," you sure come up lame when faced with the reality of their true agenda. The exclusion of 56% of current residents of what may someday constitute a "Palestinian" state from citizenship (not to mention the 1.6 million "Palestinians" inside Israel) is their way of creating a two-tiered class of citizens ... first on board get all the benefits. Your desire to deflect this conversation into an "Israel's lack of integrity" one proves not "Israel's lack of integrity" but rather your own and your fraudulent "concern" for those hapless "Palestinians."

"But the state Abdullah foresees would deny equal participation, and hence fair representation at the United Nations and other international bodies, not only to the 5.3 million refugees living outside historic Palestine, as Goodwin-Gill warned, but also to nearly two million inside the 1967 territories. These comprise 45% of the West Bank’s Palestinian population and a whopping 67% of the Gaza Strip’s, excluding a total of 56% of the proposed state’s residents from citizenship. And this does not count 1.6 million Palestinians inside Israel, including hundreds of thousands of internally-displaced refugees."
Who would be considered a citizen in a new state of Palestine? | Mondoweiss

They will remain refugees until they go back to their homes.

How could it be any different? That makes perfect sense.

 

[irosie91]

He doesn't give a shit about Palestinian refugees or Palestinian's in general.

That palistaniacally silly allegation can't be more further from the truth, of course. There's no refuge from reality.Because they're settling-squatting losers, of course, and the progressive international community should seriously consider putting an end to the palistanian national-socialist enterprise and undertake a noble task of their humanitarin relocation so that the latter become productive members of the international community.

so that the latter become productive members of the international community

Like they were before Israel stole all their stuff.

Could you expound on that idea------uhm a concept of A PRODUCTIVE CONTRIBUTING ARAB PALESTINE-------sometime in history? I am opened to anything------any little crumb of something good out of the place or in the place when it was controlled by either ararabs or turks ------or even from arabs when it was controlled by the brits......??????? Are you calling cholera, malaria, polio, tuberculosis and leprosy epidemics a "contribution to the world"?

 

[sealadaigh]

my compliments though. it is nice to finally see a zionist concerned about the welfare of the refugees. good on you.

He doesn't give a shit about Palestinian refugees or Palestinian's in general. You should read his other posts applauding ethnic cleansing, the illegal occupation, the immoral blockade, etc. Even in the OP, he tried to spin comments by the Palestinian ambassador into another "wipe Israel off the map" speech. If you want to compliment him, that's your business. I just want to offer you a little more information as to what it is you are complimenting.

i think a solution to their plight, and an obvious problem for all parties, is to have the various western powers involved absorb them into their countries, with israel paying reparations similar to the way the vuctims of the holocaust were paid...well, without a middle man like the bank leuim involved. hell, i bet even the USA could absorb most of them.

Why should they have to leave an area that has been home to them for generations?

i'm sorry if i was unclear.

i do not think they should be forced to leave at all.. i think they all have a right to return to their homes absolutely and in accordance with the letter of international law and that i support that unequivocally.

however, such a just and fair solution may well prove impracticable and i think those refugees could be offered an incentive of such a proportion that they very willing leave the refugee camps and begin their lives in another country with as little feelings of remorse as possible. acctually, i think it would be funny, in a perverse sort of way, if part of the offer to those palstinians who did seek to take up residence elsewhere would be thaat they be allowed citizenship in the state where there former residence was located...the diaspora palestinians. can you imagine millions of american palestinians having voting rights in israel, not unlike many american jews have.

the refugees, of course, are a huge problem, but they are a problem of israel's making and israel should be forced, if need be, to either follow the letter of the law or make reparations to all those who seek it. every time i read that israel is advocating that the countries that have the palestinian camps should absorb those refugees makes my jaw drop and i am stunned by the sheer audacity and arrogance of such a proposal. never have i ever heard such a proposal and in is ridiculous, and it originates and stems from the unconscionable bigotry that all arab people are the same. a saudi isn't a lebanese isn't an algerian isn't a syrian, isn't a tunisian isn't a jordanian etc, etc, etc., and their suggestion is not at all unlike, with a few significant what they unjustly slam helen thomas for.

i hope that is a little more clear...please, no...do not put me in the group of people who doen't believe that every legal refugee from palestine has an absolute right of return...

 

[docmauser1]

Oh, bog off!

Oh I am just cut to the quick by your debating skills, I hope I don't get blood on the floor. Yoy must have been the envy of your high school class, oh I forgot you didn't make it that far, maybe grade school, still to advanced for you, well at least your kindergarten.P.S. next time try quoting the whole post unless that is to hard for you !!!

Hilariously psychidelic drivel!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Docmauser's post is truly deceptive as Reabhloideach states especially to individuals such as myself who are not as tech savey as they probably should be, I guess I am not a GENIUS. My question to docmauser is why he did not seperate the two and provide seperate links to each so there would be no confusion, I hope that it was not a deliberate deception on his part.

I did not realize that the underlined part was from two articles until Reabhloideach pointed it out and was really confused because the last paragraph is not in line with what the Ambassador has said in the past !!!. In an article in the Daily star some time ago ( I have not been able to find it ) Abdullah states that the reason that the refugees would not be given automatic citizenship is that it would automatically void their refugee status and thus terminate their UN Right of Return. This would make all future claims against Israel for land that they were driven off of in the 48 and 67 war null and void. This would have the effect of depriving them of the right to the land or for compensation to that land something Israel has acknowledged they have at least twice before in UN resolutions 181 and 273 !!!

Maybe we should concentrate on Israel's lack of integrity and basic dishonesty instead of distorting the PA's attempt to secure the rights of the refugees.

Frankly PatCat, for one who pretends to be concerned about the plight of those poor, poor put-upon "Palestinians," you sure come up lame when faced with the reality of their true agenda. The exclusion of 56% of current residents of what may someday constitute a "Palestinian" state from citizenship (not to mention the 1.6 million "Palestinians" inside Israel) is their way of creating a two-tiered class of citizens ... first on board get all the benefits. Your desire to deflect this conversation into an "Israel's lack of integrity" one proves not "Israel's lack of integrity" but rather your own and your fraudulent "concern" for those hapless "Palestinians."

"But the state Abdullah foresees would deny equal participation, and hence fair representation at the United Nations and other international bodies, not only to the 5.3 million refugees living outside historic Palestine, as Goodwin-Gill warned, but also to nearly two million inside the 1967 territories. These comprise 45% of the West Bank’s Palestinian population and a whopping 67% of the Gaza Strip’s, excluding a total of 56% of the proposed state’s residents from citizenship. And this does not count 1.6 million Palestinians inside Israel, including hundreds of thousands of internally-displaced refugees."
Who would be considered a citizen in a new state of Palestine? | Mondoweiss

They will remain refugees until they go back to their homes.

How could it be any different? That makes perfect sense.

But the ones born in Syria don't have a home outside Syria.
The ones born in Jordan don't have a home outside Jordan.
Their only home is the camps their Arab buddies stuck them in.

 

[docmauser1]

He doesn't give a shit about Palestinian refugees or Palestinian's in general.

That palistaniacally silly allegation can't be more further from the truth, of course. There's no refuge from reality.Because they're settling-squatting losers, of course, and the progressive international community should seriously consider putting an end to the palistanian national-socialist enterprise and undertake a noble task of their humanitarin relocation so that the latter become productive members of the international community.

Like they were before Israel stole all their stuff.

Ahhh! Now we know why palistanians think they had it all! - The stuff was strong.

 

[docmauser1]

They will remain refugees until they go back to their homes.

For all intents and purposes they've returned, of course. About 800,000 jews had been kicked out of the arab countries with their sweet property and holding confiscated. That was, basically, an exchange of populations. Jews were eventually absorbed, arabs were denied absorption by their alleged brethren and remain, of course, occupational refugees.

 

[Roudy]

Geez the illiterate Jew hater gets exposed, and starts babbling in tongues. What a fucking freak show.

Nothing shows your racist, psychotic brain more, than your accusations of the jew-hating-jew.

Keep it up, so the entire world can see just how fucked you really are.

Thanks I will. To show how fucked up you are. You really have nothing but this wimpy moron who likes to play a tough guy persona.

 

[Roudy]

They will remain refugees until they go back to their homes.

For all intents and purposes they've returned, of course. About 800,000 jews had been kicked out of the arab countries with their sweet property and holding confiscated. That was, basically, an exchange of populations. Jews were eventually absorbed, arabs were denied absorption by their alleged brethren and remain, of course, occupational refugees.

Somewhere in all this "research" Islamist cocksuckers like groinboy claim to have made, they never mention the ethnic cleansing the Arab animals committed in Jews. Now why is that?

 

[Roudy]

Frankly PatCat, for one who pretends to be concerned about the plight of those poor, poor put-upon "Palestinians," you sure come up lame when faced with the reality of their true agenda. The exclusion of 56% of current residents of what may someday constitute a "Palestinian" state from citizenship (not to mention the 1.6 million "Palestinians" inside Israel) is their way of creating a two-tiered class of citizens ... first on board get all the benefits. Your desire to deflect this conversation into an "Israel's lack of integrity" one proves not "Israel's lack of integrity" but rather your own and your fraudulent "concern" for those hapless "Palestinians."

"But the state Abdullah foresees would deny equal participation, and hence fair representation at the United Nations and other international bodies, not only to the 5.3 million refugees living outside historic Palestine, as Goodwin-Gill warned, but also to nearly two million inside the 1967 territories. These comprise 45% of the West Bank’s Palestinian population and a whopping 67% of the Gaza Strip’s, excluding a total of 56% of the proposed state’s residents from citizenship. And this does not count 1.6 million Palestinians inside Israel, including hundreds of thousands of internally-displaced refugees."
Who would be considered a citizen in a new state of Palestine? | Mondoweiss

They will remain refugees until they go back to their homes.

How could it be any different? That makes perfect sense.

But the ones born in Syria don't have a home outside Syria.
The ones born in Jordan don't have a home outside Jordan.
Their only home is the camps their Arab buddies stuck them in.

Hey you're not supposed to speak the truth. We're supposed to pretend these Arab invaders have been in that land for "thousands of years". Yeah right!

 

[P F Tinmore]

They will remain refugees until they go back to their homes.

For all intents and purposes they've returned, of course. About 800,000 jews had been kicked out of the arab countries with their sweet property and holding confiscated. That was, basically, an exchange of populations. Jews were eventually absorbed, arabs were denied absorption by their alleged brethren and remain, of course, occupational refugees.

Somewhere in all this "research" Islamist cocksuckers like groinboy claim to have made, they never mention the ethnic cleansing the Arab animals committed in Jews. Now why is that?

The Palestinians had nothing to do with that. Why should it be mentioned.

 

[Hossfly]

For all intents and purposes they've returned, of course. About 800,000 jews had been kicked out of the arab countries with their sweet property and holding confiscated. That was, basically, an exchange of populations. Jews were eventually absorbed, arabs were denied absorption by their alleged brethren and remain, of course, occupational refugees.

Somewhere in all this "research" Islamist cocksuckers like groinboy claim to have made, they never mention the ethnic cleansing the Arab animals committed in Jews. Now why is that?

The Palestinians had nothing to do with that. Why should it be mentioned.

Tinmore, are you trying to imply Palestinians are innocent, misunderstood, mistreated and maligned people who have nothing in common with Arabs?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Somewhere in all this "research" Islamist cocksuckers like groinboy claim to have made, they never mention the ethnic cleansing the Arab animals committed in Jews. Now why is that?

The Palestinians had nothing to do with that. Why should it be mentioned.

Tinmore, are you trying to imply Palestinians are innocent, misunderstood, mistreated and maligned people who have nothing in common with Arabs?

The Palestinians have nothing to do with other countries. Why do people keep bringing them up?