Our Poiltics Are Different

[rikules]

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a progressive doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a progressive is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products
banned for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a progressive is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to
better his situation.
A progressive wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Progressives demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A progressive non-believer wants any mention of God and religion
silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about
shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A progressive demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends
can have a good laugh.

A progressive won't laugh or pass it on. Sometimes truth hurts to much.

"If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a progressive doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed."

not really true

I know lots of democrats and liberals who own guns, many of whom hunt

however
if a conservative doesn't like drugs he outlaws them
if a conservative doesn't like abortion he outlaws it
if a conservative hates homosexuals he tries to criminalize them


"If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a progressive is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products
banned for everyone."


again
you go to the extreme.
most liberals do eat meat
most liberals are not trying to outlaw meat products...

where-as
when a conservatiuve doesn't like drugs
he outlaws them
when a conservative doesn't like liberals
he makes up outrageous lies about them


"If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a progressive is homosexual, he demands legislated respect."

now you are REALLY and TRUELY lying
if a conservative is a homosexual he joins the log cabin republicans and is banned from repulican party activities

if a conservative is a homosexual he remains in the closet and has to silently suffer while listening to other conservatives mock and ridicule homosexuals

if a conservative is a homosexual he has to remain silent while conservative republicans try to criminalize homosexuality

and I fail to see why homosexuals demanding to be given equal rights is a bad thing.

as American citizens they deserve equal rights.




"If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to
better his situation.
A progressive wonders who is going to take care of him."

now you are just making things up.

lots of un-employed conservatives recieve government aid


"If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Progressives demand that those they don't like be shut down."


more crap

lots of conservatives have actively worked to boycott (silence and shut down) shows they don't like

cons/christians have banned books they find offensive
banned movies they found offensive
boycotted writers and actors they found offensive


"If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A progressive non-believer wants any mention of God and religion
silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)"

more misinforation.
conservatives DEMAND that America b e declared a christian nation
conservatives DEMAND that "merry christmas" be shouted from the roof tops while "happy holidays" be banned
conservatives actively work to silen ce atheists and non-chrstians while demanding that THEIR religion be given special status

you are a fkn liar


"If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about
shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A progressive demands that the rest of us pay for his."


more crap

conservatives eat fatty foods, drink too much alcohol, refuse to diet and exercise

by the time they are in their 40s they are fat and have heart, leg, lung, back problem s

so they trudge off to the doctors (still refusing to diet, eat healthy or exercise) and demand expensive treatmenst paid for buy other peoples insurance money or medicaid and medicare



"If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends
can have a good laugh."

and they will all believe it even though it
a. is mosly not true
and
b. can easily be applied to conservatives as well


"A progressive won't laugh or pass it on. Sometimes truth hurts to much."

like the truth that it is mostly nonsense and you are a deranged lying lunatic

 

[MaggieMae]

you live in a damn cave or what?

speaking of shit- what's hillary doing???????????


While you were watching the oil spill, the New York failed terrorist bombing and other critical crises, Hillary Clinton signed the small arms treaty with the UN.
OBAMA FINDS LEGAL WAY AROUND THE 2ND AMENDMENT AND USES IT. IF THIS PASSES, THERE COULD BE WAR
On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States
On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments



nothing happening with guns? right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where's your link to that biased piece of shit? Nevermind: If you saw it on the Internet, it must be true.

International Gun Ban Treaty? | FactCheck.org
Much of what this e-mail claims is simply false. A "complete ban on all weapons for US citizens" isn’t possible under our Constitution, according to the Supreme Court, which held just last year that:

Read more at the S.O.U.R.C.E.D link, dummy.

the treaty itself you dumbass
direct interventions could include restrictions on the carrying of different
kinds of weapons, targeted policing for the search and seizure of firearms, so-called
gun-free zones established by public authorities and communities in defined
geographic areas, restrictions on the availability of alcohol in high-violence areas,
and weapons-for-development activities.


ODS HOME PAGE

try page 15- have someone read it to you

For the United States to sign any treaty, it requires 3/4 of the Senate to approve and the president's signature. Dumb ass.

Hillary Clinton has no authority to sign treaties. Dumb ass.

Hillary never signed a U.N. gun ban Treaty

 

[Foxfyre]

Yes everybody deserves the right to aspire to peace as he or she defines that, respect as a person, a good life, respite from that which offends, and the best that life has to offer.

Everybody doesn't DESERVE all that though. Those willing to work to obtain it, and those with the ability, deserve it and those unwilling to do what they can to achieve it, don't deserve it.

Under the intent of the U.S. Constitution, short of infringing the rights of others, everybody has the right to be the kind of person they wish to be, do what they can to live the kind of life they wish to live, think what they want, believe what they do, and prosper as much as they are able.

And other than defense of their own Constitutional rights, nobody has the right to require or demand that others provide any of that for them.

 

[Tom Clancy]

No one wants your fucking guns

No, they just don't want him to have his guns either.

To pretend otherwise is to ignore 50+ years of Democrat policy.

No one is campaigning on taking anyones guns, no laws in are progress.

You people make shit up to spew hate.

Again, talking out of your ass..

Are you not reading about Kagan?

Politics | Gun rights among Supreme Court's final decisions | Seattle Times Newspaper


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Actually, It seems you never want to admit that some people on the Left Do want to Restrict Guns..

And when I mean Restrict I mean putting silly Gun Restrictions, since they can't Directly Ban Guns (Since the 2nd Amendment is still in Effect and will be as long as this country stands.)

It's called Loopholes, Simple and Effective.


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TM, I suggest you actually stop claiming yourself to be the Know-it-all of Everything.. Hence your name. Realize that most of what you say is pure Bias and Partisan Hack nonsense.

 

[Tom Clancy]

If you are a conservative, you worship Big Business and the wealthy.
If you are progressive, you see the value of hard work and small businesses.[/font][/color][/size]

I really hope your kidding...

 

[Modbert]

OP, give a link to your post.

 

[Foxfyre]

OP, give a link to your post.

I believe it is from an unsourced email that has been circulating for a couple of years now Modbert. I don't think an original source is probably available, but there is no danger of copyright infringement.

 

[MaggieMae]

No, they just don't want him to have his guns either.

To pretend otherwise is to ignore 50+ years of Democrat policy.

No one is campaigning on taking anyones guns, no laws in are progress.

You people make shit up to spew hate.

Again, talking out of your ass..

Are you not reading about Kagan?

Politics | Gun rights among Supreme Court's final decisions | Seattle Times Newspaper


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Actually, It seems you never want to admit that some people on the Left Do want to Restrict Guns..

And when I mean Restrict I mean putting silly Gun Restrictions, since they can't Directly Ban Guns (Since the 2nd Amendment is still in Effect and will be as long as this country stands.)

It's called Loopholes, Simple and Effective.


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TM, I suggest you actually stop claiming yourself to be the Know-it-all of Everything.. Hence your name. Realize that most of what you say is pure Bias and Partisan Hack nonsense.

The Supreme Court just ruled on the Second Amendment issue (the Chicago lawsuit), and of course Kagan isn't yet a Justice. So what's she got to do with it?

 

[Madeline]

If you are a conservative, you worship Big Business and the wealthy.
If you are progressive, you see the value of hard work and small businesses.[/font][/color][/size]

I really hope your kidding...

Nope.

 

[logical4u]

Okie dokie, then let's discuss guns. Hate them, wish no one had one, envy the UK....and am a conservative. Just like Jim Brady, Ronald Regan and others. One does not have to be a kool aid drinking conservative to realize living in groups is more dangerous if everyone and his brother has a weapon. Yanno, sometimes the gun nuts are wrong.

In January 1994, the National Rifle Association declared: "When Bill Clinton signed the Brady bill into law on November 30, a drop of blood dripped from the finger of the sovereign American citizen ... The executioner's tool is the Brady bill - now the Brady law ... [T]hey'll go house to house, kicking in the law-abiding gun owners' doors." (NRA, "Line Up and Shut Up. Face Forward. Stay in Line. Last Name First," American Rifleman 32, January 1994)

Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

If you are a conservative, you worship Big Business and the wealthy.
If you are progressive, you see the value of hard work and small businesses.

BBC NEWS | UK | Johnson on increase in fatal stabbings

The number of knife deaths in areas targeted by an anti-knife crime scheme has risen, the Home Office has said.

In the first nine months of the Tackling Knives Action Programme, 126 people died after being attacked with a knife or other sharp object - seven more than in the same period the previous year.

But Home Secretary Alan Johnson insisted some progress was being made in the battle against knife crime. He said he was encouraged that the number of stabbings overall was down.

I believe the thefts are out of control in the UK. If it isn't chained down (with really, really heavy chain), it is stolen. Why don't you move there so you could learn to appreciate hiding in your own home when the violent gangs are in your neighborhood, and you are afraid of leaving your home for the fear of being stabbed? It sounds like a great life.

I would prefer all my neighbors to have guns; if I yell, they would come, the police would have an easier job.

 

[MaggieMae]

OP, give a link to your post.

Dude.com
Libapocalypse.com
BigFitz.com

Could be from anywhere. I've seen variations for years.

 

[gettingold]

Where's your link to that biased piece of shit? Nevermind: If you saw it on the Internet, it must be true.

International Gun Ban Treaty? | FactCheck.org
Much of what this e-mail claims is simply false. A "complete ban on all weapons for US citizens" isn’t possible under our Constitution, according to the Supreme Court, which held just last year that:

Read more at the S.O.U.R.C.E.D link, dummy.

the treaty itself you dumbass
direct interventions could include restrictions on the carrying of different
kinds of weapons, targeted policing for the search and seizure of firearms, so-called
gun-free zones established by public authorities and communities in defined
geographic areas, restrictions on the availability of alcohol in high-violence areas,
and weapons-for-development activities.


ODS HOME PAGE

try page 15- have someone read it to you

For the United States to sign any treaty, it requires 3/4 of the Senate to approve and the president's signature. Dumb ass.

Hillary Clinton has no authority to sign treaties. Dumb ass.

Hillary never signed a U.N. gun ban Treaty

you really are a dumbass. she certainly has the authority to SIGN it.

It doesn't go into effect unless it's ratified

 

[MaggieMae]

the treaty itself you dumbass
direct interventions could include restrictions on the carrying of different
kinds of weapons, targeted policing for the search and seizure of firearms, so-called
gun-free zones established by public authorities and communities in defined
geographic areas, restrictions on the availability of alcohol in high-violence areas,
and weapons-for-development activities.


ODS HOME PAGE

try page 15- have someone read it to you

For the United States to sign any treaty, it requires 3/4 of the Senate to approve and the president's signature. Dumb ass.

Hillary Clinton has no authority to sign treaties. Dumb ass.

Hillary never signed a U.N. gun ban Treaty

you really are a dumbass. she certainly has the authority to SIGN it.

It doesn't go into effect unless it's ratified

A half admission you were dead wrong. Congratulations. She can sign it as intent only.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a progressive is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products
banned for everyone.

Never seen anyone other than PETA trying to ban meat

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a progressive is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is homosexual, he hides the fact and takes anti-homosexual stands. If a progressive is homosexual he demands respect from the legislature. It is conservatives pushing laws to desriminate against gays

Shut up faggot.

 

[Woyzeck]

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a progressive is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products
banned for everyone.

Never seen anyone other than PETA trying to ban meat

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a progressive is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is homosexual, he hides the fact and takes anti-homosexual stands. If a progressive is homosexual he demands respect from the legislature. It is conservatives pushing laws to desriminate against gays

Shut up faggot.

Way to prove a generalization correct, you're doing wonders for yourself.

 

[Coyote]

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a progressive doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a progressive is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products
banned for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a progressive is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to
better his situation.
A progressive wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Progressives demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A progressive non-believer wants any mention of God and religion
silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about
shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A progressive demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends
can have a good laugh.

A progressive won't laugh or pass it on. Sometimes truth hurts to much.

....and sometimes...."truth" is just another series of well worn cliches....

Oh wait....that wouldn't be truth then.

 

[Foxfyre]

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a progressive doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a progressive is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products
banned for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a progressive is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to
better his situation.
A progressive wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Progressives demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A progressive non-believer wants any mention of God and religion
silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about
shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A progressive demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends
can have a good laugh.

A progressive won't laugh or pass it on. Sometimes truth hurts to much.

....and sometimes...."truth" is just another series of well worn cliches....

Oh wait....that wouldn't be truth then.

Are you saying that all cliches are false?

 

[Coyote]

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a progressive doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a progressive is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products
banned for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a progressive is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to
better his situation.
A progressive wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Progressives demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A progressive non-believer wants any mention of God and religion
silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about
shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A progressive demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends
can have a good laugh.

A progressive won't laugh or pass it on. Sometimes truth hurts to much.

....and sometimes...."truth" is just another series of well worn cliches....

Oh wait....that wouldn't be truth then.

Are you saying that all cliches are false?

Sometimes they are - sometimes they aren't.

Most of these are since he is taking the views of extremists and portraying them as the views of all liberals. Gets old and tired.

For example - would this be true:

If a conservative is homosexual, he gets drummed out of his party
If a progressive is homosexual, he gets to quietly lead his own life

 

[Nosmo King]

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A progressive non-believer wants any mention of God and religion
silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

What's a foreign religion? Russian Orthodox?

And why is it Conservatives can see a religion as "foreign"?

 

[Coyote]

hmmmm....here's one for "truth".....an old article, but still relevant.





Perverted, God-Hating Frenchies vs. Inbred, Sex-Obsessed Yokels
I was waiting to go on a conservative talk radio show and heard the host say that John Kerry and his supporters "have no God" because they don't stand up to evil. He went on to claim that "even the mention of God terrifies them." As for religious people who go to church regularly but vote Democratic, he said, "I see them as sort of phonies."

Then I came on, and his question to me was, "Why do secular people think we're all a bunch of intolerant people?"

I've heard similarly clueless statements from liberals who simultaneously talk about the need for fairness then compare the Bush administration to the Taliban or the Nazis.

I'm not going to attempt to bring peace to the land right now but thought it might be worthwhile to sketch the top ways that liberals misunderstand well-meaning religious conservatives, and vice versa.

TRUTH ABOUT LIBERALS #1
They're Just As Moral As Conservatives

We've seen a wave of commentary suggesting that George W. Bush's re-election was a victory of people who cared about morality over those who didn't. "As a class, liberals no longer are merely the vigorous opponents of the Right; they are spiteful enemies of civilization's core decency and traditions," writes Mike Thompson, in Human Events Online. Columnist Ben Giles spelled out liberal depravity with greater specificity. "I'm sure the Kerry cabal has a lot to say regarding...conducting an orgy, the preeminent natural herb for curbing the side effects of herpes, how to pick out the right stripper and midget for a ménage à trois, how to redistribute someone else's wealth to pimps, whores and welfare brats, how to rid one's nation of Judeo-Christian ethics..."

The idea that this was a victory for people who care about morality over those who don't is galling to liberals because, for many of them, the number one issue in this election was Iraq -- and their opposition to the incumbent administration was almost entirely grounded in moral concerns. It's not like liberals objected because their own family members were dying. Rather, they believe that launching any war unless absolutely justified is profoundly immoral, a position also articulated by the Pope. One can disagree, but I would love the opportunity to watch Anne Coulter tell the Pope his opposition to the war isn't based on morality. Liberals also believe that a morally indefensible policy was sold dishonestly - a gross moral breach compounded by another.

Conservatives ask why the opposition to Bush seems hateful. The answer: liberals believe that what Bush did is worse than what other presidents, Democratic or Republican, have done because it involves the unnecessary and therefore immoral shedding of human blood.


TRUTH ABOUT CONSERVATIVES #1
They're Just As Smart As Liberals

Liberals tend to view people who take the Bible very seriously as yokels opposed to science, knowledge and thinking. New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd said the Bush administration is about "replacing science with religion, and facts with faith. We're entering another dark age, more creationist than cutting edge." Novelist Jane Smiley declared the election a triumph for the forces of "ignorance." Privately, liberals friends have told me that Bush voters are "morons," "idiots" and "peanut heads." The idea that red state voters chose Bush because they're ignorant or uneducated is bigoted, not to mention inaccurate. The least educated voters, people with no high school diploma favored Kerry 50%-49%.

Conversely, most people who are highly educated are quite religious too: 72% percent of people with post-graduate degrees believed in miracles and 78% percent believe in the survival of the soul after death. Liberals can't mock religious people as dumb when they disagree with them but hail their wisdom when they're liberals like Jimmy Carter. This intellectual snobbery is a major reason why religious conservatives distrust liberal elites.

For the rest of the "Truths": Understanding the truth (and lies) about liberals and conservatives By Steven Waldman- Beliefnet.com



btw: just to make sure no one is confused, I'm the Perverted, God-Hating Frenchy