Obama voted in favor of infanticide so get off your moral horses libs

[Remodeling Maidiac]

So I'm desperate? Seems to me it's Obama who is desperate. Desperately running from his past record on ALL fronts

 

[Annie]

BIG LIE!

Obama didn't vote FOR infanticide.

He voted against the "Born Alive" bill in IL because a similar law was already on the books from the early '70's requiring a doctor to administer medical care to an infant born alive during an abortion.

He opposed it because it was an attempt to give "personhood" status to the infant beyond what the current law already said and didn't distinguish between a viable or non-viable born alive infant.

According to Politifact (and Factcheck bears this out also):

We researched Obama’s position on "born alive" legislation extensively during the presidential campaign. Obama favors abortion rights generally, and he opposed the state version of Illinois’ "born alive" measure as a state senator. But he never said that premature children, The federal legislation (the law Santorum sponsored in the Senate) became law in 2002. The federal legislation included a so-called "neutrality clause," which said the law would not change the legal status or legal rights of anyone prior to being "born alive." Abortion rights advocates said the clause was necessary to make sure the bill would not affect current abortion laws.

Obama said as far back as 2004 that he would have supported the federal bill and that he would have supported the Illinois versions if they had included a similar neutrality clause. The laws the full Illinois Senate voted on in 2001 and 2002 did not have such a clause, but 2003 is a different story even those who survived an abortion, could be killed.

...Obama never said that "any child prior to nine months of gestation would be able to be killed" or that "any child born prematurely … can be killed," as Santorum said.

...

Our ruling

To reiterate what’s not in dispute: Obama opposed "born alive" legislation in Illinois and gave several reasons for opposing the proposals. But at no time did he make the argument that infants who survived botched abortions should be killed.

he favored a baby born through abortion, that breathed/cried to lay in closet laying in rags until it expired. Sort of like yogurt or soylent green crackers. Get them on both ends.

 

[candycorn]

Do the libs have an infanticide exception clause in their abortion platform?

dude you look desperate.

Thats because he is. Not as out the door as Frank and Muddy but Grumps is showing his true colors. Not pretty.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I've said since day one what an abysmal failure Obama has been and nothing has changed.

 

[francoHFW]

You dupes are too ADD to understand the complexity of the votes, I guess- carry on- The Supreme Court says, "STFU and stop dividing the country over what was decided long ago. Thank god Obamacare will bring birth control to those who want it and decimate the number of abortions, no thanks to hypocrite Pubs and silly dupes...

 

[Lakhota]

I just heard Chris Matthews say a new poll has Obama leading Romney among women by 28 points. It should be much higher.

 

[tinydancer]

Myths and falsehoods regarding Obama's votes on "born alive" bills | Research | Media Matters for America

FactCheck.org : Obama and ‘Infanticide’

Fact Checker - Is Obama Guilty of 'Infanticide'?

FACT CHECK: Gingrich Claim on Obama Infanticide Vote A
Stretch - Naureen Khan - NationalJournal.com

PolitiFact | Rick Santorum said Obama said "any child" born prematurely "can be killed"

Great post thanks for the info

Every link is an interpretation of his votes. His votes are on record in the Illinois legislative files.
Sorry. No one can spin their way out of it.

He's also on voice record.

No spin zone.

 

[Lakhota]

I've said since day one what an abysmal failure Obama has been and nothing has changed.

Since day one? Wow, you really gave the guy a chance.

 

[AmyNation]

Myths and falsehoods regarding Obama's votes on "born alive" bills | Research | Media Matters for America

FactCheck.org : Obama and ‘Infanticide’

Fact Checker - Is Obama Guilty of 'Infanticide'?

FACT CHECK: Gingrich Claim on Obama Infanticide Vote A
Stretch - Naureen Khan - NationalJournal.com

PolitiFact | Rick Santorum said Obama said "any child" born prematurely "can be killed"

Great post thanks for the info

Every link is an interpretation of his votes. His votes are on record in the Illinois legislative files.
Sorry. No one can spin their way out of it.

He's also on voice record.

No spin zone.

The fact is, you can't see that you are also spinning it.

 

[tinydancer]

I just heard Chris Matthews say a new poll has Obama leading Romney among women by 28 points. It should be much higher.

Link?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I just heard Chris Matthews say a new poll has Obama leading Romney among women by 28 points. It should be much higher.

Where was the poll taken?

BSNBC headquarters?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I just heard Chris Matthews say a new poll has Obama leading Romney among women by 28 points. It should be much higher.

Link?

Democratsstackpolls.com

 

[Lakhota]

Per the poll, Obama has a 22-point lead (52%-30%) on caring about average people, as well as a 28-point advantage (52%-24%) on issues concerning women. These are what we call our “gut check” questions, and Romney is trailing here — and trailing badly.

More: Why Romney can’t move ahead of Obama | theGrio

 

[MeBelle]

I'm gonna pull a Lahkota here....my apologies in advance.

Barack Obama's Actions and Shifting Claims on the Protection of Born-Alive Aborted Infants

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/index.html

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/SB1082asintroduced.pdf

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaKills2003amendedBAIPA.htm

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/2003AmendedILBAIPAandFedBAIPA.html

Senate Republican Staff Analysis of SB 1082

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaKillsBAIPA2003APstory.pdf

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/NARALAlertCorrection.html

Complete text of Illinois Born-Alive Infants Protection bill killed by Barack Obama

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/FromBarackObamaCampaignAug192008.pdf

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/FedCourtDecree1993BlockingIllinoisLaw.pdf

Comparison of the two Illinois BAIPA

Obama Cover-up on Born-Alive Abortion Survivors

Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2000

There is much more, just click the 'LIVE' links from the first post.

 

[MeBelle]

How'd I do?

 

[MeBelle]

Per the poll, Obama has a 22-point lead (52%-30%) on caring about average people, as well as a 28-point advantage (52%-24%) on issues concerning women. These are what we call our “gut check” questions, and Romney is trailing here — and trailing badly.

More: Why Romney can’t move ahead of Obama | theGrio

Which has ZERO to do with the OP...

 

[MeBelle]

not real?

So if the baby were you, you are merely a figment of the imagination?

If i was a baby and posting on the internet, id be rich.

And alive after a botched abortion!

 

[PixieStix]

BIG LIE!

Obama didn't vote FOR infanticide.

He voted against the "Born Alive" bill in IL because a similar law was already on the books from the early '70's requiring a doctor to administer medical care to an infant born alive during an abortion.

He opposed it because it was an attempt to give "personhood" status to the infant beyond what the current law already said and didn't distinguish between a viable or non-viable born alive infant.

According to Politifact (and Factcheck bears this out also):

We researched Obama’s position on "born alive" legislation extensively during the presidential campaign. Obama favors abortion rights generally, and he opposed the state version of Illinois’ "born alive" measure as a state senator. But he never said that premature children, The federal legislation (the law Santorum sponsored in the Senate) became law in 2002. The federal legislation included a so-called "neutrality clause," which said the law would not change the legal status or legal rights of anyone prior to being "born alive." Abortion rights advocates said the clause was necessary to make sure the bill would not affect current abortion laws.

Obama said as far back as 2004 that he would have supported the federal bill and that he would have supported the Illinois versions if they had included a similar neutrality clause. The laws the full Illinois Senate voted on in 2001 and 2002 did not have such a clause, but 2003 is a different story even those who survived an abortion, could be killed.

...Obama never said that "any child prior to nine months of gestation would be able to be killed" or that "any child born prematurely … can be killed," as Santorum said.

...

Our ruling

To reiterate what’s not in dispute: Obama opposed "born alive" legislation in Illinois and gave several reasons for opposing the proposals. But at no time did he make the argument that infants who survived botched abortions should be killed.

Excuses, excuses

 

[CrazedScotsman]

I would bet he's in favor of abortion up to two years old too. Seriously, there are people who President Obama put into positions that are in favor of this.

If you're asking yourself, "Why up to only two years old, why not older?". Well, people believe that a child becomes aware of their existence at around two years old, so once that happens, it becomes murder.

It's all part of the lefts plans. Abortion, voluntary sterilization which could become forced with the simple stroke of a pen, the acceptance of the gay lifestyle and so on. It's all about population control and getting rid of undesirables.

We can't afford 4 more years of President Obama both monetarily or morally.

You may now be asking yourself, "Why does Crazed include the gay lifestyle, it makes no sense". Well, have you ever seen a gay man poop out a baby or even heard of one? I rest my case.

LOL.

 

[MeBelle]

Oops, found another...

Obama In '03: Voted No On Banning Late Term Abortions | RealClearPolitics
In video, in the Presidents own words!!!!