Obama scares North Korea out of their nukes!

[Mr. Shaman]

Kickin' Teabagger-ass......'n stackin' 'em like cordwood.....​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

March 1, 2012​

"North Korea has agreed to stop nuclear tests, uranium enrichment and long-range missile launches and to allow international inspectors to visit its Yongbyon nuclear complex in return for food aid from the United States.

The announcement, made simultaneously by the US state department and North Korea's official news agency on Wednesday, paves the way for the possible resumption of six-party disarmament negotiations with the Communist state.

It also marks a significant policy shift by North Korea's reclusive leadership after the death of longtime ruler Kim Jong-il in December.

"The DPRK, upon request by the US and with a view to maintaining positive atmosphere for the DPRK-US high-level talks, agreed to a moratorium on nuclear tests, long-range missile launches, and uranium enrichment activity at Yongbyon and allow the IAEA to monitor the moratorium on uranium enrichment while productive dialogues continue," the official KCNA news agency said."

ANOTHER Obama WIN​

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[LordBrownTrout]

Clinton came close to reaching an agreement with North Korea

It was Bush's strong arm tactics that put us ten years back

Bullshit

Correction:

That's.......

....BUSHIT!!!!

(The FIRST-time BU$HCO made Colin Powell look like a fool.)

Getting her drink on with dear leader.

Redirect Notice

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Bush; North Korean Flip-Flop​

"In March, 2001, Bush surprised the world by announcing, during a visit by South Korean president Kim Dae-jung, that the United States would not resume Clinton-era talks with North Korea. Kim was visiting the US to seek Bush's support for the so-called "Sunshine Policy" of peace and reconciliation with North Korea, a work which won Kim the Nobel Peace Prize. The South Korean president favored resuming talks from the Clinton days, considered successful for achieving a moratorium on North Korea's missile testing in 1999. Bush refused, citing skepticism about the trustworthiness of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il.

Three months later in June, 2001, Bush surprised the world again by having a sudden change of heart. He decided to resume the talks after what the State Department said was "an intense review by Washington on its policies towards North Korea." The New York Times, however, paints a different picture of why the president changed his mind after all the tough-talking he did back in March.

The Sunday, June 10, 2001 New York Times revealed that GW had gotten some fatherly advice on the matter. The Times reports that George Bush, Sr. sent his boy a memo, arguing need to reopen talks with North Korea. He wanted GW to adopt more moderate stand than the one backed by Pentagon.

Was this the advice of an experienced ex-president, seeing an error in his son's handling of foreign policy matters?"

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[Mr. Shaman]

February 2003

Bush's Messiah Complex​

"His first religion also comes into play here. Certainly, the President is entitled to practice whatever religion he believes in, and George W. Bush is not the first President to bandy about the name of God or to claim the United States is under the wing of providence. But when his religious fundamentalist beliefs spill over into his job, and when he uses religious rhetoric in inflammatory ways, we ought to take heed.

Since September 11, Bush has barely gone a day without using the word "evil" or "evildoers." His "axis of evil" speech may have so threatened North Korea that it decided to accelerate its nuclear plans. The phrase "axis of evil" did not happen accidentally, either, nor was it the original speechwriter's exact term. Frum came up with the term "axis of hatred" in the draft he sent on to chief speechwriter Michael Gerson. Says Frum: "Gerson wanted to use the theological language that Bush had made his own since September 11--so 'axis of hatred' became 'axis of evil.' "

Frum is quite open about the importance of fundamentalism in the Bush Administration. The first words he says he ever heard in the White House from George Bush were: "Missed you at Bible study." Frum writes, "Bush came from and spoke for a very different culture from that of the individualistic Ronald Reagan: the culture of modern Evangelicalism. To understand the Bush White House, you must understand its predominant creed."

Frum also cites the speech that Bush gave at his alma mater, Yale, on May 21, 2001. It was one Bush personally worked very hard on, and Frum said it was among the President's most self-revealing. Said Bush: "Life takes its own turns, makes its own demands, writes its own story. And along the way, we start to realize we are not the author."

Bush expressed the same feeling when he was governor of Texas. "I could not be governor if I did not believe in a divine plan that supersedes all human plans," he said.

When he was considering running for President, Bush attended church with his mother. The preacher talked about a reluctant Moses unsure of his leadership qualities. Barbara told George that he was that Moses figure. While running for President, he himself invoked the divine plan. "Together, we have a charge to keep," he wrote in his campaign book, which was not too subtly entitled A Charge to Keep.

That Bush believes he was assigned the Presidency from on high comes through in another passage of Frum's book. After Bush's September 20, 2001, speech to Congress, Gerson called up the President to compliment him: "Mr. President, when I saw you on television, I thought--God wanted you there," Gerson said, according to Frum.

"He wants us all here, Gerson," the President responded, according to Frum."

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[GoneBezerk]

Mr Shitman is a mental ward patient.

 

[Trajan]

well since according to you we are not provding them aid....


go look up the Kaesong Industrial Region, we most certainly have been aiding them, I have said before and will again, until so. kor gets off its ass, we should pull all aid to the UN agencies how supply them and directly to nor kor. as we are just enabling the virtual slavery of their own people... the south doesn't want to crash nor. kor and absorb the refugees. screw that.

they will sucker more fuel and money out of us, watch...this 2 step is as old as prostitution and wine.

You must be mixing me up with someone else. I have not denied that we are giving them aid.

Your solution would be what? Ignore the problem? Isn't that what Bush did?

Isn't that what got us N Korean Nukes in the first place?

wow.did everyone just see that?

whats the matter?

Oh so the old "Containment plan" is not viable?

( as in the oft suggested refuge of the failed foggy bottom feeders- the Saddam lest contain him clan...and saddam he had several contiguous states that he could and did smuggle in- out -thru, and was infinitely more sophisticated than Nor Kor.)

...you're good, but not good enough grasshopper...


and, that is exactly what I mean, nothing , not one gallon of oil and not one seed or grain.


And no, thats not what bush did, you must have a short memory or really winging it here- hillary et al browbeat the shit out of him to engage in 5-6 50 party talks...and? same old same old, he got played just like hubby not once either but twice....

 

[Trajan]

annnnnd theeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre off...another dear leader,another useful idiot steps up to the plate, sign in please Pres. Obama........who called it? as if it wasn't dreadfully obvious anyway...




Buying Off North Korea (Again)
Washington pays for promises from another Kim.
March 1 2012 (updated)


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On Wednesday, North Korea announced that it would stop enriching uranium, suspend its nuclear tests and allow U.N. nuclear inspectors to inspect its nuclear facilities (or at least those it chooses to declare).

In exchange, the U.S. has agreed to provide 240,000 metric tons of food aid over the next year. The deal is said to contain verification mechanisms to ensure that the food doesn't merely feed North Korean soldiers. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton calls it "a modest first step in the right direction." Other Administration officials insist they won't let themselves be fooled by empty Pyongyang promises.

Good luck with that. When the Clinton Administration (with Japan and South Korea) negotiated the Agreed Framework with Pyongyang in 1994, it too won promises from the regime that it would close its weapons-breeding reactor at Yongbyon and put its plutonium under seal in exchange for 500,000 tons a year in oil, two "light-water" reactors and a variety of U.S security guarantees.

That economic lifeline was certainly helpful to Kim Jong Il, who managed to keep his regime afloat and avoid the fate of most Soviet clients. But it didn't keep him from flouting the terms of the agreement.

In 2002, the Bush Administration confronted Pyongyang with evidence that it was pursuing a parallel program to enrich weapons-grade uranium. The North acknowledged the charge and admitted it had been doing so for years, only to deny it again later. It then pulled out of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and expelled U.N. inspectors.

The North conducted its first nuclear test four years later. And in September 2007 we learned, thanks to an Israeli strike, that Pyongyang was secretly building a nuclear reactor in the Syrian desert, notwithstanding President Bush's explicit warning that the U.S. would react harshly to such proliferation attempts.

Once again, however, the U.S. tried to make a deal. In June 2008 President Bush announced that he was lifting sanctions on the North after Pyongyang offered an obviously incomplete nuclear accounting and destroyed portions of its already obsolete Yongbyon facility. "We will trust you only to the extent that you fulfill your promises," said Mr. Bush, sounding a lot like those State Department gnomes sound today.

The Obama Administration came into office a few months later, and the Kim family promptly welcomed the U.S. diplomatic overtures with ballistic missile tests, a second nuclear shot, the expulsion of U.N. inspectors, withdrawal from the negotiating table, and, for good measure, the hostage-taking of a couple of American reporters. So it was back to tough talk and sanctions—until now. What's changed?

more at-
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...22862397942.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop

 

[Trajan]

that was the pitch above, ....and herrrrres the swing........



U.S., North Korea to Discuss Aid in Beijing


BEIJING—A U.S. human-rights envoy is scheduled to meet with North Korean officials in Beijing on Wednesday as Washington and Pyongyang hash out the details of their new arms-and-aid deal.

Robert King, U.S. special envoy for North Korean human-rights issues, arrived in Beijing on Tuesday in advance of the talks, which are expected to take place at the embassies of both the U.S. and North Korea in the Chinese capital Wednesday. Mr. King said he will discuss details of the humanitarian aid the U.S. last week agreed to provide as part of the deal.

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"I'm looking forward to a positive discussion," he told reporters upon his arrival at the Beijing airport, though he declined to answer questions or give additional information.

U.S. officials said last week that they had reached a deal with Pyongyang under which North Korea agreed to freeze the development of nuclear weapons and permit international inspectors to return to the country. In return, the U.S. agreed to offer 240,000 metric tons of food aid.

more at-

U.S., North Korea to Discuss Aid in Beijing - WSJ.com



wits orth repeating is this old saw;

"There's a sucker born every minute"....

In our case there's a sucker born in every administration. This is a huge mistake. Bigger than usual.

 

[Conservative]

as I said earlier... once NK has what they want from us, they will simply stop any inspections, and start their program again... if indeed it was ever slowed or stopped to begin with.

It's what they do.

 

[Si modo]

Well, the O-bot cheerleaders have a bit of egg on their faces.

Defiant North Korea says rocket launch to go ahead | Reuters

Defiant North Korea says rocket launch to go ahead

Reuters) - North Korea on Sunday rejected criticism of its planned long-range missile launch which threatens to upset its only major benefactor, China, and put relations with the United States back in the freezer just as they seemed to be starting to thaw.

....

Washington, which last month agreed to supply North Korea with food in exchange for a suspension of nuclear tests, missile launches and uranium enrichment and to allow nuclear inspectors into the country, called the planned launch "highly provocative".

More troubling perhaps for Pyongyang, which is long accustomed to trading invective with Washington, Beijing called the planned launch a "worry" in a rare attempt to put public pressure on its impoverished ally.

.....​

Obama just flushed more of our money down the toilet. As if the non-cheerleaders didn't know AND know that Obama SHOULD have known as well.

Yay!

 

[Conservative]

Well, the O-bot cheerleaders have a bit of egg on their faces.

Defiant North Korea says rocket launch to go ahead | Reuters

Defiant North Korea says rocket launch to go ahead

Reuters) - North Korea on Sunday rejected criticism of its planned long-range missile launch which threatens to upset its only major benefactor, China, and put relations with the United States back in the freezer just as they seemed to be starting to thaw.

....

Washington, which last month agreed to supply North Korea with food in exchange for a suspension of nuclear tests, missile launches and uranium enrichment and to allow nuclear inspectors into the country, called the planned launch "highly provocative".

More troubling perhaps for Pyongyang, which is long accustomed to trading invective with Washington, Beijing called the planned launch a "worry" in a rare attempt to put public pressure on its impoverished ally.

.....​

Obama just flushed more of our money down the toilet. As if the non-cheerleaders didn't know AND know that Obama SHOULD have known as well.

Yay!

well, in all fairness, this is a missile test, not a payload test.

They might be intending on dropping a shitload of leaflets and books about the Chairman with this missile.

 

[Si modo]

Well, the O-bot cheerleaders have a bit of egg on their faces.

Defiant North Korea says rocket launch to go ahead | Reuters

Defiant North Korea says rocket launch to go ahead

Reuters) - North Korea on Sunday rejected criticism of its planned long-range missile launch which threatens to upset its only major benefactor, China, and put relations with the United States back in the freezer just as they seemed to be starting to thaw.

....

Washington, which last month agreed to supply North Korea with food in exchange for a suspension of nuclear tests, missile launches and uranium enrichment and to allow nuclear inspectors into the country, called the planned launch "highly provocative".

More troubling perhaps for Pyongyang, which is long accustomed to trading invective with Washington, Beijing called the planned launch a "worry" in a rare attempt to put public pressure on its impoverished ally.

.....​

Obama just flushed more of our money down the toilet. As if the non-cheerleaders didn't know AND know that Obama SHOULD have known as well.

Yay!

well, in all fairness, this is a missile test, not a payload test.

They might be intending on dropping a shitload of leaflets and books about the Chairman with this missile.

True, it is. But it was part of the extortion agreement.

 

[Unkotare]

Japan ready to shoot down N Korean rocket, if necessary ? Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion

 

[Si modo]

Japan ready to shoot down N Korean rocket, if necessary ? Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion