NRA Wants Mentally Ill To Have Gun Rights

[martybegan]

Pity we can't keep the mentally ill from posting on message boards.

Idiocy is not a mental illness......

 

[Locke11_21]

Seriously, why would the NRA want the mentally ill to have gun rights?

I couldn't help but notice your link is a hard left-wing hactivist propaganda machine, the NY Times. So, with that in mind, this source can not be taken seriously.

As for the mentally ill, there are many of them in elected positions (Dianne Feinstein, Harry Reid, Dickhead Durbin, Barbara Boxer, Nazi Piglosi, John Boehner...just to name a few), yet I don't see any complaints about them. How about those mentally ill poilticians placing attachments to the Hurricane Sandy bill, to bring home money to their own areas. Now that is sick, that is mentally ill as well.

How about we have politician control. It is a tragedy these acts by some nutcases, however, this is much to do with left-wing idiots who say we can't be judgemental, we can't identify these nutjobs and say so, because we might offend them. Well, maybe if we were not too worried about offending people, guys like this shooter in CT would have been identified and be locked up in a place for people who are just not all there.

But instead, you blame the guns instead of your own failed policies. Getting back to the mentally ill, we have too many mentally ill in elected office. While we have witnessed a horrific tragedy in CT, CO and some other incidents, we are seeing the mentally ill commit an even bigger tragedy...that is killing our nation, its foundings and its economy.

 

[syrenn]

More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times

More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times

You oppose the right of people to go to court and prove that they aren't actually crazy?

Maybe we should prevent mentally ill people from voting or driving cars forever too.

To own or have access to guns? Once they have a documented mental illness? Yes I do!

wow!

so you were a member of the nra were you...i take it that means you own or owned guns.

And for a self professed depressed person..... i guess you should not have one either.

 

[Politico]

Guys. He knows what due process is. He just wants all guns to be gone. Besides the whole debate is based on an assault weapons ban which this guy didn't even use.

 

[eots]

Mental Illness:

Any of various conditions characterized by impairment of an individual's normal cognitive, emotional, or behavioral functioning, and caused by social, psychological, biochemical, genetic, or other factors, such as infection or head trauma. Also called emotional illness, mental disease, mental disorder.

(Medicine / Pathology) any of various disorders in which a person's thoughts, emotions, or behavior are so abnormal as to cause suffering to himself, herself, or other people.

mental illness - definition of mental illness by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

mental illness
n.
Any of various conditions characterized by impairment of an individual's normal cognitive, emotional, or behavioral functioning, and caused by social, psychological, biochemical, genetic, or other factors, such as infection or head trauma. Also called emotional illness, mental disease, mental disorder.


as defined by who ?..its rather broad is it not ?...so being distracted..upset..angry...excited..sad...are all mental illness ?..because they can impair...normal emotional, or behavioral functioning,

 

[Lakhota]

States have mostly entrusted these decisions to judges, who are often ill-equipped to conduct investigations from the bench. Many seemed willing to simply give petitioners the benefit of the doubt. The results often seem haphazard.

At least a few hundred people with histories of mental health issues already get their gun rights back each year. The number promises to grow, since most of the new state laws are just beginning to take effect. And in November, the Department of Veterans Affairs responded to the federal legislation by establishing a rights restoration process for more than 100,000 veterans who have lost their gun privileges after being designated mentally incompetent by the agency.

Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times

Seriously scary...

 

[blackhawk]

Pity we can't keep the mentally ill from posting on message boards.

Idiocy is not a mental illness......

I think they changed that under obamacare.

 

[martybegan]

States have mostly entrusted these decisions to judges, who are often ill-equipped to conduct investigations from the bench. Many seemed willing to simply give petitioners the benefit of the doubt. The results often seem haphazard.

At least a few hundred people with histories of mental health issues already get their gun rights back each year. The number promises to grow, since most of the new state laws are just beginning to take effect. And in November, the Department of Veterans Affairs responded to the federal legislation by establishing a rights restoration process for more than 100,000 veterans who have lost their gun privileges after being designated mentally incompetent by the agency.

Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times

Seriously scary...

Again, due process is scary.....

You fascist fucktard.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times



More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times

Oh, my, god.... DUE PROCESS!!!!

For the first, and likely last time, we agree.

The question is, however, can you and others on the right be consistent with your advocacy of due process.

I can be more consistent than you.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Seriously, why would the NRA want the mentally ill to have gun rights?

Define ..mentally ill

http://www.usmessageboard.com/members/lakhota.html

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[Lakhota]

By Jeffrey Young

People with histories of mental illness and a proclivity toward violence are not supposed to be able to purchase firearms in the United States. But in practice, say experts, a patchwork of state and federal laws only apply to people who have been institutionalized or deemed by authorities to be dangerous.

Federal law mandates background checks meant to keep convicted felons and people with mental illnesses from legally acquiring guns, but the rules only apply to people who buy weapons from licensed dealers -- meaning that people, including those with mental illnesses, can buy what they please from other individuals at gun shows or elsewhere. At the state level, standards vary and are bedeviled by poor tracking and a lack of coordination with federal authorities, making enforcement spotty.

In short, no effective system exists that can prevent those with mental illness from getting hold of deadly firearms or reliably predict who may act out in violence.

The underlying goal of laws restricting who can buy guns is to keep guns out of the hands of the people most likely to commit violent acts. By that measure, the laws aren't working, said Paul Appelbaum, the director of the Division of Law, Ethics and Psychiatry at Columbia University's department of psychiatry.

More: Gun Control Laws Fail To Keep Mentally Ill Away From Guns

 

[martybegan]

By Jeffrey Young

People with histories of mental illness and a proclivity toward violence are not supposed to be able to purchase firearms in the United States. But in practice, say experts, a patchwork of state and federal laws only apply to people who have been institutionalized or deemed by authorities to be dangerous.

Federal law mandates background checks meant to keep convicted felons and people with mental illnesses from legally acquiring guns, but the rules only apply to people who buy weapons from licensed dealers -- meaning that people, including those with mental illnesses, can buy what they please from other individuals at gun shows or elsewhere. At the state level, standards vary and are bedeviled by poor tracking and a lack of coordination with federal authorities, making enforcement spotty.

In short, no effective system exists that can prevent those with mental illness from getting hold of deadly firearms or reliably predict who may act out in violence.

The underlying goal of laws restricting who can buy guns is to keep guns out of the hands of the people most likely to commit violent acts. By that measure, the laws aren't working, said Paul Appelbaum, the director of the Division of Law, Ethics and Psychiatry at Columbia University's department of psychiatry.

More: Gun Control Laws Fail To Keep Mentally Ill Away From Guns

And thus the lakhota "solution" Ban everyone from having guns.

You shouldnt lose your 2nd amendment rights because you are depressed, or you are stressed out. It has to be a defined serious mental defect, like schizophrenia, manic depressive disorder, or the like.

 

[syrenn]

Seriously, why would the NRA want the mentally ill to have gun rights?

Define ..mentally ill

http://www.usmessageboard.com/members/lakhota.html

Sorry, couldn't resist.

have another



http://www.usmessageboard.com/members/truthmatters.html

 

[Lakhota]

Possession of a firearm by the mentally ill is regulated by both state and federal laws.

Federal Law

Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”

State Laws (see link below)

Possession of a Firearm by the Mentally Ill

 

[eots]

we should pass a law that says bad people cant try and hurt other people..we can have tribunals to weed out the potential bad ones before a tragity strikes

 

[Lakhota]

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) helped bring about stricter laws relating to drunk driving. Sounds like America needs a similar movement to help keep guns out of the hands of mentally defectives.

 

[eots]

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) helped bring about stricter laws relating to drunk driving. Sounds like America needs a similar movement to help keep guns out of the hands of mentally defectives.

alcohol impermanent is not subjective and easily measurable and well defined parameter

 

[martybegan]

Possession of a firearm by the mentally ill is regulated by both state and federal laws.

Federal Law

Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”

State Laws (see link below)

Possession of a Firearm by the Mentally Ill

Note the word "ajudicated" which means a judge says you are mentally defective in a legal sense. It is the same as a conviction.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Sure I did...

yea you are one credible individual.....

 

[syrenn]

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) helped bring about stricter laws relating to drunk driving. Sounds like America needs a similar movement to help keep guns out of the hands of mentally defectives.

again... i guess that would mean your guns need to be taken away from you.

how many times have you told us you suffered depression now? I would call that a mental illness under your guidelines..... someone pron to snapping and going on a killing rampage.