Now the Left is trying to force that Baker to make a transgender cake.

[hadit]

Not if it's a private wedding, as most are. They're by invitation only, and only methos of choosing who can and can't attend is accepted. Hence "privte"

Then limit it to the politician's private events. You know, the $1,000 a plate fund raisers, complete with "Born in the USA" blasting on the sound system. Those are certainly private because you have to purchase entry.

 

[Concerned American]

I was just answering your question. When the law forces one artist to sell his work to all customers but allows another to refuse service to some, it needs to be changed, because it is applied unequally.

Apples and Oranges. I am sure the baker would have sold any cake that he had in stock. He was not going to make one that didn't meet his standards. In the artist analogy, you are comparing the artist selling something he had already painted--not forcing him to paint something that did not meet his standards.

 

[dblack]

They are free to go into another line of work, which is not a public accommodation.

LOL - you sure have a funky conception of freedom. I suppose if a cop shoots you down for defying the state's orders, you're free to bleed out on the ground, eh?

 

[percysunshine]

 

[gtopa1]

Like excluding religious people from being bakers?

I saw your other comment, slick, try weaseling out of this one.

And contracted services are not true public accommodations. They already said they don't discriminate in point of sale items.

Or CEOs of a sporting club???

"

'Grieves me greatly': New Essendon CEO hits out as he resigns one day after appointment​

Andrew Thorburn was only announced as Essendon's new chief executive on Monday, but resigned just a day later after the Bombers made it clear he couldn't hold positions at both his church and the AFL club."​

'Grieves me greatly': New Essendon CEO hits out as he resigns one day after appointment

Andrew Thorburn was only announced as Essendon's new chief executive on Monday, but resigned just a day later after the Bombers made it clear he couldn't hold positions at both his church and the AFL club.

www.sbs.com.au

Greg

 

[meaner gene]

There's no law that forces me to manufacture what you demand. If you want a cake, grab one off the shelf. I will not submit.

If you offer a service to one, you have to offer that service to all.

The baker is free to stop making wedding cakes.

 

[BS Filter]

If you offer a service to one, you have to offer that service to all.

The baker is free to stop making wedding cakes.

Wrong. I never offered to make you a custom cake. I sell cakes. Grab one off the shelf. No problem.

 

[struth]

The legal verbiage declares (with various arbitrary criteria) certain business to be "public accommodations", which means that have to do whatever the state tells them.

every business, every person, has to follow the State laws.

Public Accommodations are a certain type of business, that can be either a private business, or a public one....public accommodations under Federal law, must be handicap accessiable, and can't discriminate based on race, gender, national origin, or religion.

 

[struth]

If you offer a service to one, you have to offer that service to all.

The baker is free to stop making wedding cakes.

There is no law that states that. A lawyer for example doesn't have to offer their service to everyone, a tutor doesn't, a barber, and bartender etc.

That's just untrue

 

[martybegan]

If you offer a service to one, you have to offer that service to all.

The baker is free to stop making wedding cakes.

Or the couple is free to find another baker.

 

[struth]

They are free to go into another line of work, which is not a public accommodation.

A custom baker is not a public accomdation.

 

[meaner gene]

I was just answering your question. When the law forces one artist to sell his work to all customers but allows another to refuse service to some, it needs to be changed, because it is applied unequally.

As I pointed out, one was for "public" use, the other for "private" use.
An artist can control what is done publicly with his works. But what people do with his works in private is out of his control.

It's just like revenge porn

Revenge Porn Laws in California | Penal Code 647(J)(4)

Revenge porn laws prohibit posting sexual related pictures or videos online to cause a victim distress.

But you can still privately share them.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

It is just a fucking cake
Bake it, hand it to the customer and move on to the next one

No need to be such a drama queen

The "drama queens" are the ones who are doing this simply to be able to file a lawsuit.

 

[dblack]

every business, every person, has to follow the State laws.

Yes. That's the nature of laws.

Public Accommodations are a certain type of business, that can be either a private business, or a public one....public accommodations under Federal law, must be handicap accessiable, and can't discriminate based on race, gender, national origin, or religion.

Whatever. It's government overreach.

 

[struth]

Yes. That's the nature of laws. Very observant.

Whatever. It's government overreach.

Maybe so, Barry Goldwater certainly thought so, that's why he voted against the Civil Rights Act of 64

 

[meaner gene]

It was $3.316 in Nassau according to your link. You lied again; you welshed!!!

Greg

Nope, you lost, it's $3.31 like I said

Weekly Average Motor Gasoline Prices - NYSERDA

A weekly listing of average motor gasoline prices from throughout New York State.

www.nyserda.ny.gov

New York City Metropolitan Area
10/03/2022 330.5

 

[dblack]

Maybe so, Barry Goldwater certainly thought so, that's why he voted against the Civil Rights Act of 64

Yep. I'd have voted against it too. Socialists seized on the civil rights movement as as way to get rid of equal rights.

 

[struth]

As I pointed out, one was for "public" use, the other for "private" use.
An artist can control what is done publicly with his works. But what people do with his works in private is out of his control.

It's just like revenge porn

Revenge Porn Laws in California | Penal Code 647(J)(4)

Revenge porn laws prohibit posting sexual related pictures or videos online to cause a victim distress.

But you can still privately share them.

You can't force the artist to do any work at all to begin with. That's the point. If the artist doesn't want to paint you a picture, he doesn't have to

 

[meaner gene]

Then limit it to the politician's private events. You know, the $1,000 a plate fund raisers, complete with "Born in the USA" blasting on the sound system. Those are certainly private because you have to purchase entry.

Purchase isn't the criteria, it's how people are chosen. If the event holder chooses the people who attend, it's "private" if the customers choose who attends, it's "public".

Sports events are public even at $200 a seat.

 

[meaner gene]

There is no law that states that. A lawyer for example doesn't have to offer their service to everyone, a tutor doesn't, a barber, and bartender etc.

That's just untrue

Read the law again. A lawyer can pick and choose his clients but not on a discriminatory basis. And under the 6th amendment require lawyers to take clients they would normally refuse.