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lol, now you are stooping to lying. What an asshole.
he didn't, as far as im aware. Im giving ravir a list of people who would leap on her bandwagon to have me banned.
Your point would be editec? Other than you don't much care for facts that are ideologically uncomfortable.
Your point would be editec? Other than you don't much care for facts that are ideologically uncomfortable.
I don't have to speak for Editec, he can do a real fine job of speaking for himself .. but go here ...
AFRICAN AMERICAN HOLOCAUST
Come back and tell me what your "facts" have to do with this .. and explai again how Blacks enjoyed the same freedoms as Whites. In fact, tell me how Blacks "enjoy" the same freedoms as Whites today.
Let's add a bit of perspective to your comments ...
1. Of the over 4 million Black slaves in the south, less than .5% actually owned a slave. This was often due to free blacks buying a family member, friend, or spouse .. and the majority of those blacks determined to be slave owners were actually Black overseers who stood for absentee white plantation owners .. and the majority of those who were in fact deemed black slave owners, owned 1 or 2 slaves. A few owned more and some even made great profits that soon vanished.
"Black slave owners" were an enigma and extremelly uncommon.
2. Mostly all of the blacks who fought with the confederacy, did so to gain a promise of freedom .. at the same time the confederacy would kill and torture any captured blacks who fought for the north and any white officer who commanded them .. they did so while their fellow blacks still suffered the horrors and degradation of slavery.
3. Some American Indian tribes also owned slaves, but as with the few blacks who did, it ws also absent the extreme degradation, rape, and brutality experienced in the hands of white slave owners. In fact, blacks often married into Indian tribes, became tribal leaders, and built forts and communities together.
If you're going to cite esteemed historian John Hope Franklin, you should know he was no friend of the south and most his work centered around depictions of the horror of southern slavery and the resistance and escape of blacks from that horror.
Bottom line is although a few blacks owned slaves, this anomaly had little to nothing to do with the unspeakable horrors inflicted upon African men, women, and children.
Are there any cultures, or races who have not gone thought periods of persecution and degradation? Of course I'm not defending it---just wondering if any particular group has a corner on the market.
Are there any cultures, or races who have not gone thought periods of persecution and degradation? Of course I'm not defending it---just wondering if any particular group has a corner on the market.
In fact, tell me how Blacks "enjoy" the same freedoms as Whites today.
Sorry coal nothing there contradicts anything I said. The overwhelming majority of lynchings were post Civil War. I'm speaking of the period prior to the Civil War. I neither condone nor excuse lynchings of anyone regardless of race creed or color.
further 'Roots' was the exception not the Rule. The Average African brought to this country from Africa was purchased from another African. And as horrid as slavery was here it was 100 times worse in Africa. People wish to act as if slavery was peculiar to the US and that we had armed parties running though Africa kidnapping people. When in fact we not only did not we in point of fact could not. For one reason and one reason only, Malaria. Both carriers of the gene for sickle cell anemia and those who have sickle cell anemia are essentially immune to malaria. That Gene is not present in Caucasian Americans or most Europeans. Quinine is the most widely accepted cure for malaria and was not discovered until the late 1880's over 20 years after the Civil War and 25 after the Ocean Going slave trade was essentially shut down by the British.
further 'Roots' was the exception not the Rule. The Average African brought to this country from Africa was purchased from another African.
Bullshit. I know you believe that to be true, but honestly...that's mostly bullshit. Do some reading about slavery from reputable historians and get back to me.
And as horrid as slavery was here it was 100 times worse in Africa.
How the fuck do you know that? You don't. You are asserting a claim that you cannot possible support with facts. It MIGHT be true, but neither you nor I nor anybody else can know that for a fact.
I can tell you that eventually slaving became an AFrican industry, but as to how slaves were treated (as domestic slaves in AFria for Africans, I mean) isn't something I think one can describe easily or catagorically, either.
People wish to act as if slavery was peculiar to the US and that we had armed parties running though Africa kidnapping people.
No they don't.
When in fact we not only did not we in point of fact could not. For one reason and one reason only, Malaria.
Didn't stop the Dutch or Portugese or the British or the ARABS from sending raiding parties up rivers in East Africa to abduct whole villages, dude.
English slave trade based on purchasing African slaves or stealing Africans started out in England in 1562 when John Hawkins conducted the first Slaving expedition.
These are the facts, jack.
To make the blanket statement that all slaves were sold to White men by Black men is simply not the truth.
Ocean Going slave trade was essentially shut down by the British.
That is true...the Brits attempted to shut down the slave trade in 1807, then they actually outlawed slavery in England in 1833.
Good for them.
The Jews have gotten it bad in by everyone, in basically every century for the last 4,000 years! They are close to cornering the market!I can't honestly answer your sound question my brother .. so I won't pretend I know .. but certainly, no culture or people can "corner the market" on degradation.
****** please! African-Americans have gone through a lot no doubt, but no matter how bad its been. I is better being black in American even during the slavery times then it was being black in Africa, that is a fact. African Americans nowadays have just as many opportunties as whites aka the first Black President!African-Americans learned how to survive into today from the Indian. It is a debt we (African-Americans) have never repaid.
The mods won't ban you, though I don't know why they don't.
The Jews have gotten it bad in by everyone, in basically every century for the last 4,000 years! They are close to cornering the market!
XXXXXX please!
African-Americans have gone through a lot no doubt, but no matter how bad its been. I is better being black in American even during the slavery times then it was being black in Africa, that is a fact.
African Americans nowadays have just as many opportunties as whites aka the first Black President!
further 'Roots' was the exception not the Rule. The Average African brought to this country from Africa was purchased from another African.
Bullshit. I know you believe that to be true, but honestly...that's mostly bullshit. Do some reading about slavery from reputable historians and get back to me.
gather some support and make your case. Here, let me make it easy for you and list a few people you can pm RIGHT NOW:
Del, Agnapostate, Andrew2382, Charles Bass, Ghook93 and PubliusInfinitum.
There, enjoy. May the force be with you.
