NO, Unemployment is NOT DOWN

[pinqy]

So now you think employed people are counted as unemployed???

yes dear idiot liberal a Ph.d flipping burgers for 5 hours a week would be considered employed under U3 but not under u6.

See why we say a liberal will be stupid?

No, he's employed in both. The U6 does not redefine any terms. He'll be in the numerator of the U6 but not the U-1 through U-5, but that doesn't mean he's considered unemployed.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So now you think employed people are counted as unemployed???

yes dear idiot liberal a Ph.d flipping burgers for 5 hours a week would be considered employed under U3 but not under u6.

See why we say a liberal will be stupid?

No, he's employed in both. The U6 does not redefine any terms. He'll be in the numerator of the U6 but not the U-1 through U-5, but that doesn't mean he's considered unemployed.

Feel like an idiot liberal now?
"Note that some of these part-time workers counted as employed by U-3 could be working as little as an hour a week. And the "marginally attached workers" include those who have gotten discouraged and stopped looking, but still want to work. The age considered for this calculation is 16 years and over" - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

 

[pinqy]

So now you think employed people are counted as unemployed???

yes dear idiot liberal a Ph.d flipping burgers for 5 hours a week would be considered employed under U3 but not under u6.

See why we say a liberal will be stupid?

No, he's employed in both. The U6 does not redefine any terms. He'll be in the numerator of the U6 but not the U-1 through U-5, but that doesn't mean he's considered unemployed.

Feel like an idiot liberal now?
"Note that some of these part-time workers counted as employed by U-3 could be working as little as an hour a week. And the "marginally attached workers" include those who have gotten discouraged and stopped looking, but still want to work. The age considered for this calculation is 16 years and over" - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

Yes, I'm aware of the definitions. The U-6 is unemployed plus marginally attached plus part time for economic reasons divided by employed plus unemployed plus marginally attached.
What category do part time for economic reason fall under in the denominator? Well, since they're not under unemployed or marginally attached in the numerator, that leaves employed.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So now you think employed people are counted as unemployed???

yes dear idiot liberal a Ph.d flipping burgers for 5 hours a week would be considered employed under U3 but not under u6.

See why we say a liberal will be stupid?

No, he's employed in both. The U6 does not redefine any terms. He'll be in the numerator of the U6 but not the U-1 through U-5, but that doesn't mean he's considered unemployed.

Feel like an idiot liberal now?
"Note that some of these part-time workers counted as employed by U-3 could be working as little as an hour a week. And the "marginally attached workers" include those who have gotten discouraged and stopped looking, but still want to work. The age considered for this calculation is 16 years and over" - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

Yes, I'm aware of the definitions. The U-6 is unemployed plus marginally attached plus part time for economic reasons divided by employed plus unemployed plus marginally attached.
What category do part time for economic reason fall under in the denominator? Well, since they're not under unemployed or marginally attached in the numerator, that leaves employed.

dear, are you saying that a person who works part time for economic reasons is counted as employed in both u3 and u6?

 

[Faun]

So now you think employed people are counted as unemployed???

yes dear idiot liberal a Ph.d flipping burgers for 5 hours a week would be considered employed under U3 but not under u6.

See why we say a liberal will be stupid?

No, he's employed in both. The U6 does not redefine any terms. He'll be in the numerator of the U6 but not the U-1 through U-5, but that doesn't mean he's considered unemployed.

Feel like an idiot liberal now?
"Note that some of these part-time workers counted as employed by U-3 could be working as little as an hour a week. And the "marginally attached workers" include those who have gotten discouraged and stopped looking, but still want to work. The age considered for this calculation is 16 years and over" - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

Yes, I'm aware of the definitions. The U-6 is unemployed plus marginally attached plus part time for economic reasons divided by employed plus unemployed plus marginally attached.
What category do part time for economic reason fall under in the denominator? Well, since they're not under unemployed or marginally attached in the numerator, that leaves employed.

dear, are you saying that a person who works part time for economic reasons is counted as employed in both u3 and u6?

You're not capable of learning, are you? Yes, a person working part time for any reason is counted is employed.

 

[pinqy]

So now you think employed people are counted as unemployed???

yes dear idiot liberal a Ph.d flipping burgers for 5 hours a week would be considered employed under U3 but not under u6.

See why we say a liberal will be stupid?

No, he's employed in both. The U6 does not redefine any terms. He'll be in the numerator of the U6 but not the U-1 through U-5, but that doesn't mean he's considered unemployed.

Feel like an idiot liberal now?
"Note that some of these part-time workers counted as employed by U-3 could be working as little as an hour a week. And the "marginally attached workers" include those who have gotten discouraged and stopped looking, but still want to work. The age considered for this calculation is 16 years and over" - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

Yes, I'm aware of the definitions. The U-6 is unemployed plus marginally attached plus part time for economic reasons divided by employed plus unemployed plus marginally attached.
What category do part time for economic reason fall under in the denominator? Well, since they're not under unemployed or marginally attached in the numerator, that leaves employed.

dear, are you saying that a person who works part time for economic reasons is counted as employed in both u3 and u6?

Yes. Part time for economic reasons is in the numerator of the U-6 alongside unemployed, in the denominator, it's part of employed. They still fit the definition of employed.

The terms employed and unemployed are not redefined for the different U measures

 

[DriftingSand]

And who said it was down ? The Obama administration ? And its Bureau of Labor Statisitics ? That's part of the US Dept of Commerce. And that's part of Obama's cabinet.

Here's the kicker of it. Unemployment rates include FOREIGNERS coming into the country and taking American jobs, inside the US. These include millions of illegal aliens, and many more legal aliens on work visas, added to that. NONE of these jobs should be counted in calculating unemployment rates. But every one of them is counted as employment, while every one of them should be counted as UNEMPLOYMENT.

These jobs are employment, yes. But they are employment for ANOTHER COUNTRY (not the US). A Mexican comes to the US in 2013, and for all of 2014, he is working in a particular job. Same with a guy from India. And these guys should be counted in such a way as to lower the unemployment rate ? Not hardly. This whole unemployment picture as reported by the media is poppy$#@!.

Until the govt gets every foreigner the hell out of here, and out of the jobs they're stealing from American workers, there is NOTHING to be said about unemployment, and until then there IS NO UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. And we should all stop talking about it as if there is.

According the Obama administration there are no borders. The world is one, big, happy family. Come one and come all. America's taxpayers will take care of ya.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The terms employed and unemployed are not redefined for the different U measures

if so why have different u measures?

 

[SteadyMercury]

According the Obama administration there are no borders. The world is one, big, happy family. Come one and come all. America's taxpayers will take care of ya.

Sweet! We interrupt Special EdBaiamonte getting absolutely pasted in this thread to have DriftingSand roll in with some silly partisan hyperbole. Let's just set the stupid-meter on max on let her run for a bit longer...

 

[pinqy]

Look at it this way: the U3 is unemployed divided by employed plus unemployed.
The U6 is unemployed plus marginally attached plus part time for economic reasons divided by employed plus unemployed plus marginally attached.

How in that do you think part time for economic reasons is now part of the definition of unemployed?

 

[pinqy]

The terms employed and unemployed are not redefined for the different U measures

if so why have different u measures?

Because they measure different things.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Look at it this way: the U3 is unemployed divided by employed plus unemployed.
The U6 is unemployed plus marginally attached plus part time for economic reasons divided by employed plus unemployed plus marginally attached.

How in that do you think part time for economic reasons is now part of the definition of unemployed?

dear please answer my question rather than change the subject

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The terms employed and unemployed are not redefined for the different U measures

if so why have different u measures?

Because they measure different things.

got it so they meause different things but they are not redefined for different u measures?

See why we say the liberal will be slow? What other conclusion is possible?

 

[Faun]

The terms employed and unemployed are not redefined for the different U measures

if so why have different u measures?

Because they measure different things.

got it so they meause different things but they are not redefined for different u measures?

See why we say the liberal will be slow? What other conclusion is possible?

Hisses the con who thinks people who work are unemployed.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Hisses the con who thinks people who work are unemployed.

no need to feel stupid!! after all you and pinky are liberals for whom its 100% normal


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

 

[Faun]

Hisses the con who thinks people who work are unemployed.

no need to feel stupid!! after all you and pinky are liberals for whom its 100% normal


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Guess that make you abnormal then to think employed people are unemployed.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Hisses the con who thinks people who work are unemployed.

no need to feel stupid!! after all you and pinky are liberals for whom its 100% normal


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Guess that make you abnormal then to think employed people are unemployed.

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus totalemployed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

 

[Faun]

Hisses the con who thinks people who work are unemployed.

no need to feel stupid!! after all you and pinky are liberals for whom its 100% normal


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Guess that make you abnormal then to think employed people are unemployed.

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus totalemployed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Hisses the con who thinks people who work are unemployed.

no need to feel stupid!! after all you and pinky are liberals for whom its 100% normal


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Guess that make you abnormal then to think employed people are unemployed.

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus totalemployed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

total idiot liberal!! The BLS calls them unemployed under the U6 designation.

 

[pinqy]

Hisses the con who thinks people who work are unemployed.

no need to feel stupid!! after all you and pinky are liberals for whom its 100% normal


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Right, they are Employed, not magically redefined as unemployed.