NO, Unemployment is NOT DOWN

[Faun]

No plenty are employed. And way more that the politicians and partisan hacks like yourself say are not.

So now you're saying both employed and unemployed are higher? Please try and give full explanations instead of these cryptic responses. It's discourteous.

It's clear he can't elucidate his position.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

These jobs are employment, yes.

a job is not employment!!! if a foreigner comes here and gets a job that an American wanted the American would then be counted as unemployed. Since the unemployed are steadily going down in number you would have to say unemployment is going down.

U6 which is the broadest measure of unemployment has now gone down to 11.2%( 40% more than before recession so still not good). U6 would count a guy with a Ph.D flipping burgers 20 hours a week as unemployed.

 

[RKMBrown]

These jobs are employment, yes.

a job is not employment!!! if a foreigner comes here and gets a job that an American wanted the American would then be counted as unemployed. Since the unemployed are steadily going down in number you would have to say unemployment is going down.

U6 which is the broadest measure of unemployment has now gone down to 11.2%( 40% more than before recession so still not good). U6 would count a guy with a Ph.D flipping burgers 20 hours a week as unemployed.

And if that unemployed guy just gives up looking for employment, he's now counted as... oh no wait, he's no longer counted as unemployed is he? Gee whiz so the unemployment rate really doesn't mean anything does it?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

These jobs are employment, yes.

a job is not employment!!! if a foreigner comes here and gets a job that an American wanted the American would then be counted as unemployed. Since the unemployed are steadily going down in number you would have to say unemployment is going down.

U6 which is the broadest measure of unemployment has now gone down to 11.2%( 40% more than before recession so still not good). U6 would count a guy with a Ph.D flipping burgers 20 hours a week as unemployed.

And if that unemployed guy just gives up looking for employment, he's now counted as... oh no wait, he's no longer counted as unemployed is he? Gee whiz so the unemployment rate really doesn't mean anything does it?

well he would be counted in the U6 unemployment numbers which is why I think that is the most accurate unemployment number. As I said u6 is now 11.2( 40 % more than before recession) so the situation is bad although improving.

 

[Faun]

These jobs are employment, yes.

a job is not employment!!! if a foreigner comes here and gets a job that an American wanted the American would then be counted as unemployed. Since the unemployed are steadily going down in number you would have to say unemployment is going down.

U6 which is the broadest measure of unemployment has now gone down to 11.2%( 40% more than before recession so still not good). U6 would count a guy with a Ph.D flipping burgers 20 hours a week as unemployed.

And if that unemployed guy just gives up looking for employment, he's now counted as... oh no wait, he's no longer counted as unemployed is he? Gee whiz so the unemployment rate really doesn't mean anything does it?

well he would be counted in the U6 unemployment numbers which is why I think that is the most accurate unemployment number. As I said u6 is now 11.2( 40 % more than before recession) so the situation is bad although improving.

11.2 is 40% more than 8.4??

Thanks for providing yet more reason for why the forum thinks you're a fruit loop dingus; and for why conservatives should stay clear of numbers. For your own safety, of course.

 

[pinqy]

U6 which is the broadest measure of unemployment has now gone down to 11.2%( 40% more than before recession so still not good). U6 would count a guy with a Ph.D flipping burgers 20 hours a week as unemployed.

Key phrase is that it's going down.
As for your example, the Ph.D is irrelevant. And he would have to both want to and be available to work 35 or more hours a week.

And if that unemployed guy just gives up looking for employment, he's now counted as... oh no wait, he's no longer counted as unemployed is he? Gee whiz so the unemployment rate really doesn't mean anything does it?

Sure it does. It measures what percent of people doing something about work who are failed. If someone isn't trying to work, they cannot be hired so they tell us nothing about how hard it is to find work.

well he would be counted in the U6 unemployment numbers which is why I think that is the most accurate unemployment number. As I said u6 is now 11.2( 40 % more than before recession) so the situation is bad although improving.

The U-6 is not an unemployment rate.
It's not more accurate than the U-3 (statistically speaking it's less accurate with bigger error.) it just addresses a different aspect. The two don't measure the same thing and don't answer the same questions

 

[Politico]

No plenty are employed. And way more that the politicians and partisan hacks like yourself say are not.

So now you're saying both employed and unemployed are higher? Please try and give full explanations instead of these cryptic responses. It's discourteous.

No I am saying you are a retarded Millenial idiot who needs to pick up a book.

 

[Moonglow]

When a GOP is in control of the govt. the right uses the govt. figures on unemployment, when they are not they inflate the unemployment numbers of their own...

 

[pinqy]

No plenty are employed. And way more that the politicians and partisan hacks like yourself say are not.

So now you're saying both employed and unemployed are higher? Please try and give full explanations instead of these cryptic responses. It's discourteous.

No I am saying you are a retarded Millenial idiot who needs to pick up a book.

Wow, wrong on all counts.
But let's review…you said the unemployment rate would be higher if "all the numbers were added up" though of course you refuse to say which numbers. I looked and found a post of yours where you claimed that you consider everyone in the population who is not old, young, or indigent to be unemployed.
And now you claim that there are more employed than the government is reporting.
Do you really think you're making sense with all that?

While of course I t' s possible for employment to be higher and the unemployment rate lower, I really doubt that's what you're claiming.

But then you prefer the childish game of vague responses that explain nothing (and pointless insults) than trying to have an adult discussion. I have my theories on why that is.

Oh, for the record I'm early Generation X, and I've certainly read more about labor statistics than you have.

 

[danielpalos]

The real unemployment rate according to Forbes.


Tackling The Real Unemployment Rate: 12.6%




Imagine being served your poolside drinks by a lawyer, or getting your chicken sandwich delivered by an experienced marketing professional. The first is a friend of mine, the second my waitress a few weeks ago. Both lost jobs due to economic downturns at their organizations. Both took available work to pay the bills while looking for new positions in their chosen professions.

My friend and the waitress are victims of a massive but hidden problem called underemployment. Watching falling unemployment numbers being reported at 6.2%, down from nearly 10% four years earlier, is simply misleading.

Despite the significant decrease in the official U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics(BLS) unemployment rate, the real unemployment rate is over double that at 12.6%. This number reflects the government’s “U-6” report, which accounts for the full unemployment picture including those “marginally attached to the labor force,” plus those “employed part time for economic reasons.”


Tackling The Real Unemployment Rate 12.6 - Forbes

I believe this social dilemma could use socialism to bailout capitalism, like usual. We should be solving simple poverty in a market friendly manner and on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, simply for the sake of Individual Liberty, not the "collectivism" of religious morals from an Iron Age.

 

[Faun]

No plenty are employed. And way more that the politicians and partisan hacks like yourself say are not.

So now you're saying both employed and unemployed are higher? Please try and give full explanations instead of these cryptic responses. It's discourteous.

No I am saying you are a retarded Millenial idiot who needs to pick up a book.

Among all of your floundering, you're not making any sense.

 

[RKMBrown]

No plenty are employed. And way more that the politicians and partisan hacks like yourself say are not.

So now you're saying both employed and unemployed are higher? Please try and give full explanations instead of these cryptic responses. It's discourteous.

No I am saying you are a retarded Millenial idiot who needs to pick up a book.

Among all of your floundering, you're not making any sense.

Irony.

 

[Faun]

No plenty are employed. And way more that the politicians and partisan hacks like yourself say are not.

So now you're saying both employed and unemployed are higher? Please try and give full explanations instead of these cryptic responses. It's discourteous.

No I am saying you are a retarded Millenial idiot who needs to pick up a book.

Among all of your floundering, you're not making any sense.

Irony.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Key phrase is that it's (u6) going down.
.

that depends on whether it keeps going down. Mean time, there are millions and millions unemployed thanks to Barry's idiotic lib commie policies .

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

As for your example, the Ph.D is irrelevant. And he would have to both want to and be available to work 35 or more hours a week.

dear, if you have millions of Ph.D's flipping burgers they are in effect unemployed so its very relevant. Barry is shipping good jobs off shore and replacing them with low paid service jobs at Wal Mart and 7-11.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The U-6 is not an unemployment rate.

dear, the U in U6 stand for unemployment. See why we have to conclude that a liberal will be slow??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It's not more accurate than the U-3 (statistically speaking it's less accurate with bigger error.) it just addresses a different aspect. The two don't measure the same thing and don't answer the same questions

dear, how slow are you?? A Ph.D flipping burgers 3 hours a work will not show up as u3 unemployed but will show up in U6 as unemployed. Now perhaps even you can understand why we use U6 to see whats really going on with economy.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I believe this social dilemma could use socialism to bailout capitalism, like usual..

dear, you sound 100% illiterate but why not try to tell us how socialism can bail out capitalism. PLease keep in mind the China just switched to capitalism from libcommie socialism and instantly eliminated 40% of the entire world's poverty!!

 

[Faun]

The U-6 is not an unemployment rate.

dear, the U in U6 stand for unemployment. See why we have to conclude that a liberal will be slow??

Holyfuckingshit!

Prove the 'U' stands for 'unemployment' ...

 

[Faun]

It's not more accurate than the U-3 (statistically speaking it's less accurate with bigger error.) it just addresses a different aspect. The two don't measure the same thing and don't answer the same questions

dear, how slow are you?? A Ph.D flipping burgers 3 hours a work will not show up as u3 unemployed but will show up in U6 as unemployed. Now perhaps even you can understand why we use U6 to see whats really going on with economy.

Holyfuckingshit!

So now you think employed people are counted as unemployed???

Now do you understand why everyone thinks you're a fruit loop dingus?