National Debt now more than $2-trillion larger than on the day Pres Trump took office

[S.J.]

You politically-biased ignoramus....where EXACTLY did I say that FY 2009 was not partially Obama's responsibility? Of course it was...DUH.

You weren't here in 2009 (unless you used a different name), but every one of your leftist buddies on here was blaming Bush for the 2009 budget. Don't deny it.

I despise both parties, again, DUH.

Sure you do, that's why you always defend leftists and attack conservatives.

And I will ask you again about the present FY $1.8 TRILLION deficit?

I don't support deficit spending by either party, and I wasn't defending Trump, I was pointing out that the 2017 budget was Obama's (just like all your leftist buddies pointed out that the 2009 budget was Bush's). You don't like the same standard being applied to the left, which is why you get all emotional when you're criticized for the same shit for which you criticize Republicans.

 

[toobfreak]

National Debt now more than $2-trillion larger than on the day Pres Trump took office

Uh Oh. Better call in Obama and the Democrats to show us fiscal responsibility!

 

[toobfreak]

but hey, the rich got richer faster.

Nowhere near as fast as they did under Obama's QE1 and QE2 when he made 800 billion dollars disappear each time into his crony friend's pockets overnight.

 

[danielpalos]

but hey, the rich got richer faster.

Nowhere near as fast as they did under Obama's QE1 and QE2 when he made 800 billion dollars disappear each time into his crony friend's pockets overnight.

the right wing does't complain about welfare for the rich as much as they do about welfare for the Poor.

 

[McRocket]

You politically-biased ignoramus....where EXACTLY did I say that FY 2009 was not partially Obama's responsibility? Of course it was...DUH.

You weren't here in 2009 (unless you used a different name), but every one of your leftist buddies on here was blaming Bush for the 2009 budget. Don't deny it.

Who gives a shit 'where I was'? You assumed without proof. Not everyone is a Rep or a Dem, you know?

Sure you do, that's why you always defend leftists and attack conservatives.

You are again, making ignorant assumptions.

Now look at these links - just from the last month - and tell me again how I 'always' defend leftists and attack conservatives'?

This is why progressives (fiscally) scare me
Trump Supporters only, please - do you support Trump's pulling US forces out of Syria
Administration officials brace for Trump announcement on Afghanistan
Donald Trump Jr. Says Border Wall Is Like A Zoo Fence Protecting You From Animals

I don't support deficit spending by either party, and I wasn't defending Trump, I was pointing out that the 2017 budget was Obama's (just like all your leftist buddies pointed out that the 2009 budget was Bush's). You don't like the same standard being applied to the left, which is why you get all emotional when you're criticized for the same shit for which you criticize Republicans.

All emotional? Over what a yet another biased, faceless, nobody on a chat thinks?

Please.

I just find it fun to tell off jerks/people who act like jerks. And here is as good a place as any. There are more consequences if one does it at work/everyday life.


No, you were not defending him...but you were not attacking him for it either? Why not?

I attack ANY POTUS for running deficits during peacetime. ANY ONE. Obama was PATHETIC as POTUS for running the deficits he did. Just as GWB Bush was.

Trump is now in office and he is running a (pro-rated) GIGANTIC deficit of $1.8 trillion.

I will ask again...why are you not putting him down for it?

https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts.pdf

 

[toobfreak]

the right wing does't complain about welfare for the rich

I never complain about welfare for the poor! I have DEFENDED IT repeatedly here! But I do complain when it is stolen from, cheated and abused by a flawed system. Now please explain what you mean by welfare for the rich? Do you resent the wealthy and simply hate them doing what you can't? Or maybe you actually believe you'd have more if they had less? Do please tell us which flavor of socialist you are.

 

[danielpalos]

the right wing does't complain about welfare for the rich

I never complain about welfare for the poor! I have DEFENDED IT repeatedly here! But I do complain when it is stolen from, cheated and abused by a flawed system. Now please explain what you mean by welfare for the rich? Do you resent the wealthy and simply hate them doing what you can't? Or maybe you actually believe you'd have more if they had less? Do please tell us which flavor of socialist you are.

i subscribe to our federal doctrine.

Our welfare clause is general. There is no provision for excuses.

We could have solved simple poverty on an at-will basis Yesterday; the Only reason it hasn't happened is Because the Poor may benefit and the Right Wing, has a problem with that.

 

[toobfreak]

the right wing does't complain about welfare for the rich

I never complain about welfare for the poor! I have DEFENDED IT repeatedly here! But I do complain when it is stolen from, cheated and abused by a flawed system. Now please explain what you mean by welfare for the rich? Do you resent the wealthy and simply hate them doing what you can't? Or maybe you actually believe you'd have more if they had less? Do please tell us which flavor of socialist you are.

i subscribe to our federal doctrine.

Our welfare clause is general. There is no provision for excuses.

We could have solved simple poverty on an at-will basis Yesterday; the Only reason it hasn't happened is Because the Poor may benefit and the Right Wing, has a problem with that.

California must put something in their drinking water to keep your kind in a fantasy. As always, empty words but no actual realistic plan to accomplish it (except in fantasy).

 

[task0778]

Question: the federal deficit in FY 2017 was $666 billion, and was $779 billion in FY 2018. So, how'd the national debt grow by $2 trillion over Trump's 1st 2 years in office?

The Treasury Department today released a report showing the official fiscal year 2018 deficit was $779 billion, an increase of $113 billion, or 17 percent, from last year.

FY 2018 Deficit Was $779 Billion

 

[danielpalos]

the right wing does't complain about welfare for the rich

I never complain about welfare for the poor! I have DEFENDED IT repeatedly here! But I do complain when it is stolen from, cheated and abused by a flawed system. Now please explain what you mean by welfare for the rich? Do you resent the wealthy and simply hate them doing what you can't? Or maybe you actually believe you'd have more if they had less? Do please tell us which flavor of socialist you are.

i subscribe to our federal doctrine.

Our welfare clause is general. There is no provision for excuses.

We could have solved simple poverty on an at-will basis Yesterday; the Only reason it hasn't happened is Because the Poor may benefit and the Right Wing, has a problem with that.

California must put something in their drinking water to keep your kind in a fantasy. As always, empty words but no actual realistic plan to accomplish it (except in fantasy).

an at-will basis not market friendly enough for you in any at-will employment State?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Question: the federal deficit in FY 2017 was $666 billion, and was $779 billion in FY 2018. So, how'd the national debt grow by $2 trillion over Trump's 1st 2 years in office?

The Treasury Department today released a report showing the official fiscal year 2018 deficit was $779 billion, an increase of $113 billion, or 17 percent, from last year.

FY 2018 Deficit Was $779 Billion

The deficit released by the Govt is just how much more was spent over budgeted items, it does not include all spending. It is one of their ways of lying without really lying.

If you want the true deficit, use this site...

Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

Jan 20th 2017: $19,947,304,555,212.49
Jan 10, 2019: $21,917,603,881,288.34

 

[RealDave]

Numbers posted today by @USTreasury show the National Debt ended 2018 more than $2-trillion larger than on the day Pres Trump took office. It represents a 10% increase in the Debt on Pres Trump's watch. National Debt now stands at $21.974-trillion. 1

Whatever happened to the party of fiscal responsibility?

Mark Knoller on Twitter

This reminds me of the guy who marries the divorcee with four unruly kids and they quickly run up his credit cards without his knowledge to hurt him, get him to divorce their Mom, get themselves free bling or just leave.

The Libs and Leftists in government may have orchestrated this increase just to voice their contempt for the new Marshall in town.

In which case they should be made to fear for their jobs.

Or you Trumpettes elected a total asshole who is driving this bus into massive debt.

How did the Democrats do it as you claim? They can't spend money as they were in a minority in the House. So tell me, OI wise one, are you saying it is the Democrat's fault because they did not stop the Republicans?

 

[S.J.]

Not everyone is a Rep or a Dem, you know?

I don't look at it as "Rep vs Dem", I look at it as the Constitution vs Socialism. Which are you? Lemme guess, somewhere in the middle?

Now read these links and tell me again how I 'always' defend leftists and attack conservatives'?

I'll give you credit for those 4 threads. Feel better now?

All emotional? Over what a yet another biased, faceless, nobody on a chat forum thinks?
Please.

Yes, you post like a drama queen.

No, you were not defending him...but you were not attacking him for it either? Why not?

Oh, probably because I like to watch drama queens get upset when I don't.

I think you fail to see the bigger picture here. We can argue all day long about who spends more, who lies more, who is a better family man, etc. but in the end it comes down to the fact that there are only two choices. I don't vote Republican because I love Republicans, I vote Republican because I loathe socialism and socialism is what the Dem Party represents. You can languish in the middle all you want (and get nowhere) but a choice between the Founding Fathers and Karl Marx is a no brainer. I don't think you have your eyes open.

 

[McRocket]

I don't look at it as "Rep vs Dem", I look at it as the Constitution vs Socialism. Which are you? Lemme guess, somewhere in the middle?

It's in my sig.

I'll give you credit for those 4 threads. Feel better now?

You said I 'always defend leftists and attack conservatives'. Was that statement factual or not?

Yes, you post like a drama queen.

And you post like a politically, ignorant troll who hates anyone who does not vote Republican.

I think you fail to see the bigger picture here.

I will ask you again, Trump is currently running a $1.8 trillion deficit for FY 2019.

https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts.pdf

Are you prepared to - right now - knock him for running such an insane, fiscal deficit?

Yes or no, please?

 

[RealDave]

Numbers posted today by @USTreasury show the National Debt ended 2018 more than $2-trillion larger than on the day Pres Trump took office. It represents a 10% increase in the Debt on Pres Trump's watch. National Debt now stands at $21.974-trillion. 1

Whatever happened to the party of fiscal responsibility?

Mark Knoller on Twitter

Well make sure to elect more Dems to office so they can enact their “everything’s free” policies. That’s sure to improve the debt!

Like when??? Certainly not in the last 50 years.

Who did this? Republicans.
As an example under Bush, they passed Medicare Part D & only funded a small portion. It adds about 100 billion to the debt every year.

Trump's unfunded tax cuts adds about 150 billion to the debt every year.

Republicans increased Militasy spending by 70 billion - never paid for it.

 

[RealDave]

Not everyone is a Rep or a Dem, you know?

I don't look at it as "Rep vs Dem", I look at it as the Constitution vs Socialism. Which are you? Lemme guess, somewhere in the middle?

Now read these links and tell me again how I 'always' defend leftists and attack conservatives'?

I'll give you credit for those 4 threads. Feel better now?

All emotional? Over what a yet another biased, faceless, nobody on a chat forum thinks?
Please.

Yes, you post like a drama queen.

No, you were not defending him...but you were not attacking him for it either? Why not?

Oh, probably because I like to watch drama queens get upset when I don't.

I think you fail to see the bigger picture here. We can argue all day long about who spends more, who lies more, who is a better family man, etc. but in the end it comes down to the fact that there are only two choices. I don't vote Republican because I love Republicans, I vote Republican because I loathe socialism and socialism is what the Dem Party represents. You can languish in the middle all you want (and get nowhere) but a choice between the Founding Fathers and Karl Marx is a no brainer. I don't think you have your eyes open.

You vote Republican because you are grossly uninformed.

 

[RealDave]

but hey, the rich got richer faster.

Uh, under the Trump tax cuts, the rich lost a huge tax deduction with the $10K cap on the deduction for state and local taxes. Also, the Trump tax cuts ended the tax-free status of American companies that operate and park money overseas--now they pay 21% on their foreign-made income, whereas before they paid nothing.

And, uh, FYI, median household income has been rising steadily under Trump, whereas it was flat-lined under Obama.

Actually, American companies pay the difference between the tax in that foreign country & the US tax rate. So instrsd of getting 35%- country rate, we will get 21 - country rate. An incentive for doing business over seas.

 

[RealDave]

The first year belongs to Obama.

Typical conservative. Nothing is EVER your fault.

Who signed the budget for 2017?

Who passed it?

So the gains in employment, etc in 20217 were also Obama's?

 

[RealDave]

The first year belongs to Obama.

Typical conservative. Nothing is EVER your fault.

Funny how much they increased over Obamas last deficits....

Obama spent more than all other Presidents COMBINED. Trump has a long way to go to match THAT record.

And you'll cheer him on as he does it..

Depends on what the money is spent on. If he does something outrageous like give $150 billion to Iran or put another 13 million people on welfare I will criticize him for it.

It is also dependent on if you are so fucking stupid you think releasing Iran's assets is the US paying them 150 billion dollars.

 

[RealDave]

Why should this bother ABNORMALS?.....They didn't care when the Surrender Monkey raised it $8 trillion in 8 years.....said it was nothing!

Racist fuck. Why are so many of you Trumpettes posting racist shit or defending it?