Moms are turning to crowdfunding to help pay for maternity leave

[Katzndogz]

When did everyone's sex life become the financial burden for everyone else?

What "financial burden" do you perceive here?

Is paid maternity leave unpaid? Who pays?

Pay for your own fucking. People have been doing it for thousands of years.

 

[Arianrhod]

Who pays?

Apparently you believe you do. Please provide evidence.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

When did everyone's sex life become the financial burden for everyone else?

What "financial burden" do you perceive here?

Is paid maternity leave unpaid? Who pays?

Pay for your own fucking. People have been doing it for thousands of years.

What's even worse.....why is this so important ?

I mean, many moms don't have a husband to stay at home. You'd think the government would be more interested in collecting child support from them so we don't have to pay welfare taxes (although we need to help them....the primary help should come the father....married or not).

But government is so kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddddddddd.

 

[Arianrhod]

You'd think the government would be more interested in collecting child support from them so we don't have to pay welfare taxes

Good point. Worthy of its own thread.

Too bad you can't see this post.

 

[Katzndogz]

Who pays?

Apparently you believe you do. Please provide evidence.

No one should pay unless they do so voluntarily. No one. Not an employer, not a taxpayer. No one.

 

[Katzndogz]

When did everyone's sex life become the financial burden for everyone else?

What "financial burden" do you perceive here?

Is paid maternity leave unpaid? Who pays?

Pay for your own fucking. People have been doing it for thousands of years.

What's even worse.....why is this so important ?

I mean, many moms don't have a husband to stay at home. You'd think the government would be more interested in collecting child support from them so we don't have to pay welfare taxes (although we need to help them....the primary help should come the father....married or not).

But government is so kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddddddddd.

Half the time they don't know who the father is.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

When did everyone's sex life become the financial burden for everyone else?

What "financial burden" do you perceive here?

Is paid maternity leave unpaid? Who pays?

Pay for your own fucking. People have been doing it for thousands of years.

What's even worse.....why is this so important ?

I mean, many moms don't have a husband to stay at home. You'd think the government would be more interested in collecting child support from them so we don't have to pay welfare taxes (although we need to help them....the primary help should come the father....married or not).

But government is so kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddddddddd.

Half the time they don't know who the father is.

While that might be true.....DNA testing has come a long way.

You want help from the government.....you'll out the dad.

Otherwise you can go it on your own and if you can't make it, the state will be happy to find a home for your child.

 

[Katzndogz]

When did everyone's sex life become the financial burden for everyone else?

What "financial burden" do you perceive here?

Is paid maternity leave unpaid? Who pays?

Pay for your own fucking. People have been doing it for thousands of years.

What's even worse.....why is this so important ?

I mean, many moms don't have a husband to stay at home. You'd think the government would be more interested in collecting child support from them so we don't have to pay welfare taxes (although we need to help them....the primary help should come the father....married or not).

But government is so kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddddddddd.

Half the time they don't know who the father is.

While that might be true.....DNA testing has come a long way.

You want help from the government.....you'll out the dad.

Otherwise you can go it on your own and if you can't make it, the state will be happy to find a home for your child.

Some of these women cannot out the dad. They haven't a clue as to who dad might be. Did you imagine these children were conceived in loving relationships? The women don't know. They might identify a dozen men and it's none of them.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

What "financial burden" do you perceive here?

Is paid maternity leave unpaid? Who pays?

Pay for your own fucking. People have been doing it for thousands of years.

What's even worse.....why is this so important ?

I mean, many moms don't have a husband to stay at home. You'd think the government would be more interested in collecting child support from them so we don't have to pay welfare taxes (although we need to help them....the primary help should come the father....married or not).

But government is so kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddddddddd.

Half the time they don't know who the father is.

While that might be true.....DNA testing has come a long way.

You want help from the government.....you'll out the dad.

Otherwise you can go it on your own and if you can't make it, the state will be happy to find a home for your child.

Some of these women cannot out the dad. They haven't a clue as to who dad might be. Did you imagine these children were conceived in loving relationships? The women don't know. They might identify a dozen men and it's none of them.

DNA testing.

And that might be the case some of the time.....but not most of the time.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I wonder if helping people when they need it might be cheaper in the long run than telling them to eff off ?

 

[Arianrhod]

Who pays?

Apparently you believe you do. Please provide evidence.

No one should pay unless they do so voluntarily. No one. Not an employer, not a taxpayer. No one.

Because you say so? Well, I'm convinced.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I wonder if helping people when they need it might be cheaper in the long run than telling them to eff off ?

"if they need it" is an interesting term.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I wonder if helping people when they need it might be cheaper in the long run than telling them to eff off ?

"if they need it" is an interesting term.

Having a baby is a stressful time. Science has shown us that it is mainly women who have babies. If men had babies there would be a law giving us a year off on full pay.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I wonder if helping people when they need it might be cheaper in the long run than telling them to eff off ?

"if they need it" is an interesting term.

Having a baby is a stressful time. Science has shown us that it is mainly women who have babies. If men had babies there would be a law giving us a year off on full pay.

You are a woman ?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I wonder if helping people when they need it might be cheaper in the long run than telling them to eff off ?

"if they need it" is an interesting term.

Having a baby is a stressful time. Science has shown us that it is mainly women who have babies. If men had babies there would be a law giving us a year off on full pay.

You are a woman ?

No,why would you think that ?

 

[Conservative65]

What does government have to do with whether your employer pays you to have children?

YAWN. If you can't or don't comprehend how the US is the ONLY civilized nation that doesn't offer then you are one of the ones who obviously doesn't care and therefore its useless to even try explaining.

Comprehending that the U.S. doesn't is easy. Trying to understand what place the government has in telling a private business they have to this is what no one can explain.

 

[Conservative65]

Why should a business owner or taxpayer be forced to pay for a woman to go off and have a kid? .....

Just another example of those supporting this thinking the choice to do so belongs solely to the woman while the costs of making that choice belongs to anyone but the one that made the choice.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Why should a business owner or taxpayer be forced to pay for a woman to go off and have a kid? .....

Just another example of those supporting this thinking the choice to do so belongs solely to the woman while the costs of making that choice belongs to anyone but the one that made the choice.

That is infantile thinking. We live together, as a society, in a modern joined up world, we enjoy the benefits and should share the burden.

 

[Sunni Man]

That is infantile thinking. We live together, as a society, in a modern joined up world, we enjoy the benefits and should share the burden.

How about, I pay for my burden, and you pay for yours. ......

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That is infantile thinking. We live together, as a society, in a modern joined up world, we enjoy the benefits and should share the burden.

How about, I pay for my burden, and you pay for yours. ......

Why should you benefit from my contribution,or anybody elses for that matter ?