Michelle Obama: 'It Is Our Responsibility As a Nation' to Remember the Slaves

[katsteve2012]

It most certainly was.....what other form of slavery kidnapped people in the MILLIONS and shipped them across vast expanses of ocean with the high percentage who died thrown overboard? What other form of slavery took away their native NAMES, RELIGION, CULTURE, LANGUAGE? What other form of slavery based it on race right down to one-drop thru the mother? What other form of slavery had breeding plantations for centuries, sold families apart for centuries?

CENTURIES, really CENTURIES?

The United States was formed in 1775. The end of the Civil War, officially freeing the slaves was 1865. Slavery in the United States existed for less than 100 years. 90 years to be precise.

And what year could they finally vote, eat where they wanted to, buy a home where they wanted to, ride in the front of a bus and not give up seats to whites?

I love how slavery is looked at as ancient history. The lasting effects happened in my life time.

Why is this so hard to understand?

In the context of world history, slavery in America is not "ancient". Some of the same so called "patriots" who proudly state that America is a "young country" should realize that. As far as the right to vote, yes, the 15th amendment was passed in 1869, however it was ratified several times which made it practically impossible for potential black voters to vote in almost 3/4 of the states at that time and practically all of the southern states. Furthermore, acts of intimidation such as threats of lynching and other forms of violence
affected turnout of black voters.

So no, 1869 was not a "magical year" when black citizens although "free" just casually walked into the polls and were greeted with open arms and encouraged to vote. Add that to the fact that Jim Crow was looming on the horizon, and took full legal effect in 1876, which in some ways was worse than slavery, because people who actually thought they were "free" found out that it was not really true.

 

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So none of you rightwingnutters are willing to say slavery was bad and it's good that it is now illegal? Instead your going to justify it???

Jesus wept.

I am a right winger and I am not sure where you get the idea that the right wing is not against slavery. Oh right it is the storyline of the true party of slavery the democrat party. The party that refuses to apologize for what their party did to the blacks, from before the civil war until now. The right wing has NOTHING to be ashamed of and I am tired of the liberals and especially democrats rewriting history.

Maybe they got the idea that the right wing doesn't think slavery was bad is because none of you on the right will say it despite asked several times. I know you will respond with something other than saying "slavery was bad" and that will just add to the suspicion.

I'm just saying

 

[ClosedCaption]

What's wrong with what she said? It's a historical fact and it shouldn't be swept under the rug and "sanitized". The things that some people are are pretty funny!

IMHO, all she was doing is acting upon the sermons she heard for 20 years from Reverend Wright. All Whites are guilty for slavery and should pay for it.

In her speech, where did Michelle Obama mention whites?

When you are black and discuss the topic of slavery it's implied that you hate whitey...right?

At least that's how whites take it. Sensitive bunch they are. Don't talk about the enslaving, raping, murdering, building of America, Generational effects, denial of rights etc...because if you (blacks) talk about that. It hurts...wait for it....it hurts WHITE peoples feelings.

It's like a rape victim describing what happened and the rapist says "No fair"!

 

[Nosmo King]

Whenever the sins of the past are recalled why is it the Conservatives bray the loudest? Guilt perhaps?

We understand that Conservatives eschew science because science shows us things Conservatives believe are wrong. The earth was not formed in a week and mankind was not planted here fully formed like a potted geranium. Pollution destroys the planet and mankind does indeed have the capacity to ruin it irreparably. People die from exposure to certain toxins and those toxins should be regulated despite the cost to industry.

And now Conservatives are hating history. Is it because the sins of history are often the result of Conservative ideology?

With this depth of thinking, how could anyone who can arrive at an answer using reason ever follow Conservative political and social beliefs?

 

[AquaAthena]

May 23, 2013, By Susan Jones @ Michelle Obama: 'It Is Our Responsibility As a Nation' to Remember the Slaves | CNS News

First Lady Michelle Obama joins children learning about the Emancipation Proclamation at historic Decatur House in Washington, D.C., on May 22, 2013. (AP Photo)

(CNSNews.com) - In remarks at the historic Decatur House in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday, first lady Michelle Obama remembered the 20 slaves who toiled at the mansion around the corner from the White House, where "some of our nation's foremost leaders" lived and hosted parties.

The stories of those slaves "too often get lost," Mrs. Obama said.

Oh come on! Gimme a break Moochelle. It's been over a hundred years and nobody alive is responsible for it. You and your husband simply cannot stop playing the race card, can you?

Does she mention anywhere to also remember over 600,000 soldiers and one Republican president lost their lives fighting for the freedom of said slaves??

 

[tjvh]

You're not allowed to talk about slavery that's racist...Not saying slavery was racist I mean people who bring it up are!!!

Deerrrp!

Remember the Alamo!

Yeah ok, show us where she preached we should never forget that?

Civil War Flags for sale!!

Civil War flags have nothing to do with slavery.

 

[PredFan]

Dammit! I forgot the slaves again! Gotta set an alarm.

 

[tjvh]

May 23, 2013, By Susan Jones @ Michelle Obama: 'It Is Our Responsibility As a Nation' to Remember the Slaves | CNS News

First Lady Michelle Obama joins children learning about the Emancipation Proclamation at historic Decatur House in Washington, D.C., on May 22, 2013. (AP Photo)

(CNSNews.com) - In remarks at the historic Decatur House in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday, first lady Michelle Obama remembered the 20 slaves who toiled at the mansion around the corner from the White House, where "some of our nation's foremost leaders" lived and hosted parties.

The stories of those slaves "too often get lost," Mrs. Obama said.

Oh come on! Gimme a break Moochelle. It's been over a hundred years and nobody alive is responsible for it. You and your husband simply cannot stop playing the race card, can you?

Does she mention anywhere to also remember over 600,000 soldiers and one Republican president lost their lives fighting for the freedom of said slaves??

I'm sure more history revisions are in order, like the one that claims the civil war was about slavery when in fact it was not, that slavery only became an issue when Lincoln needed to get more support for the war. And yes, I do live in the North.

 

[Nosmo King]

May 23, 2013, By Susan Jones @ Michelle Obama: 'It Is Our Responsibility As a Nation' to Remember the Slaves | CNS News


Oh come on! Gimme a break Moochelle. It's been over a hundred years and nobody alive is responsible for it. You and your husband simply cannot stop playing the race card, can you?

Does she mention anywhere to also remember over 600,000 soldiers and one Republican president lost their lives fighting for the freedom of said slaves??

I'm sure more history revisions are in order, like the one that claims the civil war was about slavery when in fact it was not, that slavery only became an issue when Lincoln needed to get more support for the war. And yes, I do live in the North.

If the Civil War was not about slavery, what was it about?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Yeah ok, show us where she preached we should never forget that?

Civil War Flags for sale!!

Civil War flags have nothing to do with slavery.

Suuuuurrrrreee they don't. And Swastikas have nothing to do with Nazis...It's really about Buddhism.

The word swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means “good fortune” or “well-being." The motif (a hooked cross) appears to have first been used in Neolithic Eurasia, perhaps representing the movement of the sun through the sky. To this day it is a sacred symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Odinism. It is a common sight on temples or houses in India or Indonesia. Swastikas also have an ancient history in Europe, appearing on artifacts from pre-Christian European cultures.

 

[AquaAthena]

May 23, 2013, By Susan Jones @ Michelle Obama: 'It Is Our Responsibility As a Nation' to Remember the Slaves | CNS News


Oh come on! Gimme a break Moochelle. It's been over a hundred years and nobody alive is responsible for it. You and your husband simply cannot stop playing the race card, can you?

Does she mention anywhere to also remember over 600,000 soldiers and one Republican president lost their lives fighting for the freedom of said slaves??

I'm sure more history revisions are in order, like the one that claims the civil war was about slavery when in fact it was not, that slavery only became an issue when Lincoln needed to get more support for the war. And yes, I do live in the North.

Yes, that is true.

 

[Sunshine]

May 23, 2013, By Susan Jones @ Michelle Obama: 'It Is Our Responsibility As a Nation' to Remember the Slaves | CNS News


Oh come on! Gimme a break Moochelle. It's been over a hundred years and nobody alive is responsible for it. You and your husband simply cannot stop playing the race card, can you?

Does she mention anywhere to also remember over 600,000 soldiers and one Republican president lost their lives fighting for the freedom of said slaves??

I'm sure more history revisions are in order, like the one that claims the civil war was about slavery when in fact it was not, that slavery only became an issue when Lincoln needed to get more support for the war. And yes, I do live in the North.

Lincoln did not free the slaves in the north.

And there were plenty of black slave owners:

Black Slave Owners Civil War Article by Robert M Grooms

 

[NLT]

Does she mention anywhere to also remember over 600,000 soldiers and one Republican president lost their lives fighting for the freedom of said slaves??

I'm sure more history revisions are in order, like the one that claims the civil war was about slavery when in fact it was not, that slavery only became an issue when Lincoln needed to get more support for the war. And yes, I do live in the North.

If the Civil War was not about slavery, what was it about?

States versus Federal rights

 

[Nosmo King]

I'm sure more history revisions are in order, like the one that claims the civil war was about slavery when in fact it was not, that slavery only became an issue when Lincoln needed to get more support for the war. And yes, I do live in the North.

If the Civil War was not about slavery, what was it about?

States versus Federal rights

The Confederate States were exercising their rights to do what, exactly?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Does she mention anywhere to also remember over 600,000 soldiers and one Republican president lost their lives fighting for the freedom of said slaves??

I'm sure more history revisions are in order, like the one that claims the civil war was about slavery when in fact it was not, that slavery only became an issue when Lincoln needed to get more support for the war. And yes, I do live in the North.

Lincoln did not free the slaves in the north.

And there were plenty of black slave owners:

Black Slave Owners Civil War Article by Robert M Grooms

Also the sky was blue.

 

[NLT]

If the Civil War was not about slavery, what was it about?

States versus Federal rights

The Confederate States were exercising their rights to do what, exactly?

1. Economic and social differences between the North and the South.

With Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin in 1793, cotton became very profitable. This machine was able to reduce the time it took to separate seeds from the cotton. However, at the same time the increase in the number of plantations willing to move from other crops to cotton meant the greater need for a large amount of cheap labor, i.e. slaves. Thus, the southern economy became a one crop economy, depending on cotton and therefore on slavery. On the other hand, the northern economy was based more on industry than agriculture. In fact, the northern industries were purchasing the raw cotton and turning it into finished goods. This disparity between the two set up a major difference in economic attitudes. The South was based on the plantation system while the North was focused on city life. This change in the North meant that society evolved as people of different cultures and classes had to work together. On the other hand, the South continued to hold onto an antiquated social order.

2. States versus federal rights.

Since the time of the Revolution, two camps emerged: those arguing for greater states rights and those arguing that the federal government needed to have more control. The first organized government in the US after the American Revolution was under the Articles of Confederation. The thirteen states formed a loose confederation with a very weak federal government. However, when problems arose, the weaknesses of the Articles caused the leaders of the time to come together at the Constitutional Convention and create, in secret, the US Constitution. Strong proponents of states rights like Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry were not present at this meeting. Many felt that the new constitution ignored the rights of states to continue to act independently. They felt that the states should still have the right to decide if they were willing to accept certain federal acts. This resulted in the idea of nullification, whereby the states would have the right to rule federal acts unconstitutional. The federal government denied states this right. However, proponents such as John C. Calhoun fought vehemently for nullification. When nullification would not work and states felt that they were no longer respected, they moved towards secession.

3. Slavery


Top Five Causes of the Civil War

 

[Nosmo King]

States versus Federal rights

The Confederate States were exercising their rights to do what, exactly?

1. Economic and social differences between the North and the South.

With Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin in 1793, cotton became very profitable. This machine was able to reduce the time it took to separate seeds from the cotton. However, at the same time the increase in the number of plantations willing to move from other crops to cotton meant the greater need for a large amount of cheap labor, i.e. slaves. Thus, the southern economy became a one crop economy, depending on cotton and therefore on slavery. On the other hand, the northern economy was based more on industry than agriculture. In fact, the northern industries were purchasing the raw cotton and turning it into finished goods. This disparity between the two set up a major difference in economic attitudes. The South was based on the plantation system while the North was focused on city life. This change in the North meant that society evolved as people of different cultures and classes had to work together. On the other hand, the South continued to hold onto an antiquated social order.

2. States versus federal rights.

Since the time of the Revolution, two camps emerged: those arguing for greater states rights and those arguing that the federal government needed to have more control. The first organized government in the US after the American Revolution was under the Articles of Confederation. The thirteen states formed a loose confederation with a very weak federal government. However, when problems arose, the weaknesses of the Articles caused the leaders of the time to come together at the Constitutional Convention and create, in secret, the US Constitution. Strong proponents of states rights like Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry were not present at this meeting. Many felt that the new constitution ignored the rights of states to continue to act independently. They felt that the states should still have the right to decide if they were willing to accept certain federal acts. This resulted in the idea of nullification, whereby the states would have the right to rule federal acts unconstitutional. The federal government denied states this right. However, proponents such as John C. Calhoun fought vehemently for nullification. When nullification would not work and states felt that they were no longer respected, they moved towards secession.

3. Slavery


Top Five Causes of the Civil War

So the Civil War WAS about slavery. The economics was about slavery, the States rights issues were about slavery. The abolitionist movement was about slavery. Lincoln's election threatened slavery.

So the South was all about economic exploitation through slavery and cloaked the political and economic reasons to justify slavery. Is this a heritage to be proud of? A culture to revere? A justification to promote the symbols of this corrupt and morally bankrupt system? Are there any reasons for the Civil War that do not lead back to slavery?

 

[Katzndogz]

In the history of slavery throughout the world and throughout history, blacks were slaves in the United States for less time than it takes to blink an eyelash. Less than 100 years. For that they want accommodation for the rest of time.

When the Brits get accommodation for the years of Roman slavery, and the Irish get recompense for the years of British slavery, and the Jews get recompense for centuries of slavery from everybody, lets talk about accommodation for years of American slavery.

 

[Katzndogz]

The Confederate States were exercising their rights to do what, exactly?

1. Economic and social differences between the North and the South.

With Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin in 1793, cotton became very profitable. This machine was able to reduce the time it took to separate seeds from the cotton. However, at the same time the increase in the number of plantations willing to move from other crops to cotton meant the greater need for a large amount of cheap labor, i.e. slaves. Thus, the southern economy became a one crop economy, depending on cotton and therefore on slavery. On the other hand, the northern economy was based more on industry than agriculture. In fact, the northern industries were purchasing the raw cotton and turning it into finished goods. This disparity between the two set up a major difference in economic attitudes. The South was based on the plantation system while the North was focused on city life. This change in the North meant that society evolved as people of different cultures and classes had to work together. On the other hand, the South continued to hold onto an antiquated social order.

2. States versus federal rights.

Since the time of the Revolution, two camps emerged: those arguing for greater states rights and those arguing that the federal government needed to have more control. The first organized government in the US after the American Revolution was under the Articles of Confederation. The thirteen states formed a loose confederation with a very weak federal government. However, when problems arose, the weaknesses of the Articles caused the leaders of the time to come together at the Constitutional Convention and create, in secret, the US Constitution. Strong proponents of states rights like Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry were not present at this meeting. Many felt that the new constitution ignored the rights of states to continue to act independently. They felt that the states should still have the right to decide if they were willing to accept certain federal acts. This resulted in the idea of nullification, whereby the states would have the right to rule federal acts unconstitutional. The federal government denied states this right. However, proponents such as John C. Calhoun fought vehemently for nullification. When nullification would not work and states felt that they were no longer respected, they moved towards secession.

3. Slavery


Top Five Causes of the Civil War

So the Civil War WAS about slavery. The economics was about slavery, the States rights issues were about slavery. The abolitionist movement was about slavery. Lincoln's election threatened slavery.

So the South was all about economic exploitation through slavery and cloaked the political and economic reasons to justify slavery. Is this a heritage to be proud of? A culture to revere? A justification to promote the symbols of this corrupt and morally bankrupt system? Are there any reasons for the Civil War that do not lead back to slavery?

Lincoln wanted an end to slavery. He also considered black people detrimental to the United States and wanted them rounded up and shipped back to Africa. His repatriation group was successful in removing thousands.

 

[ClosedCaption]

In the history of slavery throughout the world and throughout history, blacks were slaves in the United States for less time than it takes to blink an eyelash. Less than 100 years. For that they want accommodation for the rest of time.

When the Brits get accommodation for the years of Roman slavery, and the Irish get recompense for the years of British slavery, and the Jews get recompense for centuries of slavery from everybody, lets talk about accommodation for years of American slavery.

Go fuck yourself