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A whole half acre
How will the nation ever recover
Yes, we get 160,000 TONS of natural oil seep a year!! Somehow we survive. (see m former post for link, etc.)
Natural oil seep is nothing like the diluted bitumen (dilbit) pumped thru the Keystone. It's a toxic sludge that has to be injected with liquefied natural gas to thin it sufficiently to flow through the pipeline. It's easily contained within 1/2 acre because it doesn't flow without the boosting pump stations of a pipeline. It does, however, have a specific gravity much higher than crude oil. 383,000 gallons on 1/2 acre is 17+ gallons/sf. It won't just sit there - it will seep into the ground. Crude is lighter than water, dilbit is not, increasing the danger to any water table it may contact, or transit top-to-bottom, in the event of a leak. Pipelines are largely-safe, with sensors and excess-flow valves to prevent large leaks, but they are susceptible to attack and accidents. It's borderline insane to transport dilbit across the US and over water tables.
Idiot. The light ends will evaporate and the rest of it will solidify. It's going nowhere. Scoop it up with a loader.
Those are the same characteristics that make it a more severe threat to water. You're right as to the light ends, but they're a proprietary blend likely containing benzine and wtfelse. The 'solid' is peanut butter-like and there is some transfer. I don't think pipeline safety is a big problem, but they are vulnerable. Why do Canada's dirty work?
Fool. It's 35 in Fargo and 26 in Grand Forks today. Sure, that tar is going to flow all over the place.
Yes, we get 160,000 TONS of natural oil seep a year!! Somehow we survive. (see m former post for link, etc.)
Natural oil seep is nothing like the diluted bitumen (dilbit) pumped thru the Keystone. It's a toxic sludge that has to be injected with liquefied natural gas to thin it sufficiently to flow through the pipeline. It's easily contained within 1/2 acre because it doesn't flow without the boosting pump stations of a pipeline. It does, however, have a specific gravity much higher than crude oil. 383,000 gallons on 1/2 acre is 17+ gallons/sf. It won't just sit there - it will seep into the ground. Crude is lighter than water, dilbit is not, increasing the danger to any water table it may contact, or transit top-to-bottom, in the event of a leak. Pipelines are largely-safe, with sensors and excess-flow valves to prevent large leaks, but they are susceptible to attack and accidents. It's borderline insane to transport dilbit across the US and over water tables.
Idiot. The light ends will evaporate and the rest of it will solidify. It's going nowhere. Scoop it up with a loader.
Those are the same characteristics that make it a more severe threat to water. You're right as to the light ends, but they're a proprietary blend likely containing benzine and wtfelse. The 'solid' is peanut butter-like and there is some transfer. I don't think pipeline safety is a big problem, but they are vulnerable. Why do Canada's dirty work?
Fool. It's 35 in Fargo and 26 in Grand Forks today. Sure, that tar is going to flow all over the place.
And it's always 26 in Grand Fork. I hear you. And the pipeline doesn't continue another 900 miles south. And if it does, it's always 26 there, too. When, and if, it's completed to the Gulf Coast, it will always be 26 there. It's a miracle.
Natural oil seep is nothing like the diluted bitumen (dilbit) pumped thru the Keystone. It's a toxic sludge that has to be injected with liquefied natural gas to thin it sufficiently to flow through the pipeline. It's easily contained within 1/2 acre because it doesn't flow without the boosting pump stations of a pipeline. It does, however, have a specific gravity much higher than crude oil. 383,000 gallons on 1/2 acre is 17+ gallons/sf. It won't just sit there - it will seep into the ground. Crude is lighter than water, dilbit is not, increasing the danger to any water table it may contact, or transit top-to-bottom, in the event of a leak. Pipelines are largely-safe, with sensors and excess-flow valves to prevent large leaks, but they are susceptible to attack and accidents. It's borderline insane to transport dilbit across the US and over water tables.
Idiot. The light ends will evaporate and the rest of it will solidify. It's going nowhere. Scoop it up with a loader.
Those are the same characteristics that make it a more severe threat to water. You're right as to the light ends, but they're a proprietary blend likely containing benzine and wtfelse. The 'solid' is peanut butter-like and there is some transfer. I don't think pipeline safety is a big problem, but they are vulnerable. Why do Canada's dirty work?
Fool. It's 35 in Fargo and 26 in Grand Forks today. Sure, that tar is going to flow all over the place.
And it's always 26 in Grand Fork. I hear you. And the pipeline doesn't continue another 900 miles south. And if it does, it's always 26 there, too. When, and if, it's completed to the Gulf Coast, it will always be 26 there. It's a miracle.
Come back when you get a brain, you idiot.
That oil came from a tanker ship...Biden's alternative for getting crude to our refineries.Why don't you ask ask a pelican ?
It's much, much more than that....the 160 number is the discovered measurable....it is assumed to be less than 1% of the whole ...Yes, we get 160,000 TONS of natural oil seep a year!! Somehow we survive. (see m former post for link, etc.)
A whole half acre
How will the nation ever recover
That oil came from a tanker ship...Biden's alternative for getting crude to our refineries.
Obama held up the Keystone XL Pipeline for his buddies. Trump got it back under construction. Biden shut it down.
In doing so, he increased the danger of oil contamination caused by failure of other modes of transporting it, namely trucks, trains and tanker ships. All of these vehicles use fuel oil...tons of it daily. The Environmentalists must be seething.
However, Warren Buffet is a happy multi-billionaire.
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remember, you're trying to educate a demofk that has no ability to comprehend reality.That oil came from a tanker ship...Biden's alternative for getting crude to our refineries.
Obama held up the Keystone XL Pipeline for his buddies. Trump got it back under construction. Biden shut it down.
In doing so, he increased the danger of oil contamination caused by failure of other modes of transporting it, namely trucks, trains and tanker ships. All of these vehicles use fuel oil...tons of it daily. The Environmentalists must be seething.
However, Warren Buffet is a happy multi-billionaire.
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remember, you're trying to educate a demofk that has no ability to comprehend reality.
prove it.The Canadians and the Chinese owners of tarsands want to take advantage of Tax Free zones to refined products that they will sell overseas. There is no benefit to US consumers. You should have figured that out 11 years ago. Its strictly an export pipeline.
prove it.
post the link that states it. as you all say, you claim it, you prove it.LOLOL Have you been living under a rock? Its an EXPORT pipeline.. That's what XL means. Its a tax dodge to utilize the free trade zones where Motiva refineries are located.
That gunk sells at deep discount like $29 ppb.. but if they can avoid taxes, transport it to the free trade zone and sell it abroad they can make a nice profit.
You have had 12 years to learn something about the Keystone export pipeline. So far you haven't.
That gunk sells at deep discount like $29 ppb.. but if they can avoid taxes, transport it to the free trade zone and sell it abroad they can make a nice profit.
There's nothing worse than a profitable corporation.....paying US taxes and US workers, right?
They pay NO taxes in the US.. That's the point.
You're wrong. That's the point.
If they refine oil in the US, at a profit, they'll pay US taxes.
Don't you understand anything?
Once the pipeline construction crews finish, there are no US jobs.
Refinery jobs, silly.
Now, about those perfect mullahs.
Don't you just love them?
You mean Motiva may hire three guys?
If they ship the oil to the free trade zone they pay NO US taxes.
You mean Motiva may hire three guys?
That refinery only has 3 workers? Link?
If they ship the oil to the free trade zone they pay NO US taxes.
They pay no tariffs. They still pay taxes on their profit.
You don't really understand how this stuff works, do you?
Just stick to what you're good at, fluffing the mullahs.
