John Wayne on liberals

In the end....it became obvious that Jane Fonda was right about Vietnam
She was the true patriot....willing to tell her country it was wrong

A true American Patriot does not embrace Communism.
She should have gone to jail for being a traitor to our Country, but the Hollywood crowd gets special treatment in just about everything.

A true American Patriot stands up against unjust wars. Fonda risked her career to fight for what was right

Wayne ducked his chance to fight just to make a buck and then wrapped himself in the flag as an ideal of the true American Patriot

Jane Fonda was the true patriot

No American should ever go to the enemy during any war and take photos and laugh with them.
Yup

Doesn't negate the fact that Fonda was right abbout the war and John Wayne was wrong

No American should advocate escallating a bad war either...Wayne did

Historical Facts;
It is historical record that our involvement in the Viet Nam war occurred long after North Viet Nam had fully committed to Communist "colonization" of the South.
It is historical record that a Republican administration refused to enter Vietnam.
President Eisenhower relied on the judgment of our finest advisors (the Ridgeway Report) rather than political expediency, in deciding that the military requirements for such a war exceeded the probable importance to our National interests.
It is historical record that our entry into the war, and its total mis-management, was initiated and prosecuted by a Democrat administration, and President Johnson.
The agony of the Vietnam war was finally ended during a Republican administration, under President Nixon.
South Vietnam was only defeated, with tens of thousands of subsequent deaths in "Re-education Camps," after the Anti Vietnam movement encouraged a feckless Congress to ignore our promises of logistic support to South Vietnam and, ultimately, betray them.

Jane Fonda knew nothing about theses facts and she marched right into the Communists camp because she is for communism.
She was a Hollywood sex bimbo back then just like she is now.
We turned what was really a civil war into a Cold War. We had no reason to get involved ant the "Domino theory" never happened

Jane Fonda was right that it was a morally wrong war, we had no strategy to win and we're sending more and more troops in the hopes we could wear them out

Fonda was a true patriot......taking on her government for what was right
 
Fonda, at the time, was a confused young person who didn't know what the phuque she was doing in life. What she did was grandstanding, unnecessary and non-constructive, especially to the anti-war movement. It was not serious and not a big deal.
The enemy was the lying policy, much like Iraq, that this was somehow for America. The Vietnamese Communists were insidious sadists who sacrificed their people stupidly. They did not understand their enemy any better than the Americans understood them.
But the Communists were not the real enemy of the American people and our brave brothers and sons who all were casualties, at least psychologically, of that horrible adventure. The real enemy was America's own 'leaders'.
Unlike Iraq, however, Vietnam was not against international law. War crimes were committed, but the intervention itself was not a crime. Iraq was.
Nixon was a war criminal. Kissinger is a war criminal. So are those responsible for Iraq.
 
A true American Patriot does not embrace Communism.
She should have gone to jail for being a traitor to our Country, but the Hollywood crowd gets special treatment in just about everything.

A true American Patriot stands up against unjust wars. Fonda risked her career to fight for what was right

Wayne ducked his chance to fight just to make a buck and then wrapped himself in the flag as an ideal of the true American Patriot

Jane Fonda was the true patriot

No American should ever go to the enemy during any war and take photos and laugh with them.
Yup

Doesn't negate the fact that Fonda was right abbout the war and John Wayne was wrong

No American should advocate escallating a bad war either...Wayne did

Historical Facts;
It is historical record that our involvement in the Viet Nam war occurred long after North Viet Nam had fully committed to Communist "colonization" of the South.
It is historical record that a Republican administration refused to enter Vietnam.
President Eisenhower relied on the judgment of our finest advisors (the Ridgeway Report) rather than political expediency, in deciding that the military requirements for such a war exceeded the probable importance to our National interests.
It is historical record that our entry into the war, and its total mis-management, was initiated and prosecuted by a Democrat administration, and President Johnson.
The agony of the Vietnam war was finally ended during a Republican administration, under President Nixon.
South Vietnam was only defeated, with tens of thousands of subsequent deaths in "Re-education Camps," after the Anti Vietnam movement encouraged a feckless Congress to ignore our promises of logistic support to South Vietnam and, ultimately, betray them.

Jane Fonda knew nothing about theses facts and she marched right into the Communists camp because she is for communism.
She was a Hollywood sex bimbo back then just like she is now.
We turned what was really a civil war into a Cold War. We had no reason to get involved ant the "Domino theory" never happened

Jane Fonda was right that it was a morally wrong war, we had no strategy to win and we're sending more and more troops in the hopes we could wear them out

Fonda was a true patriot......taking on her government for what was right


Only if you love and embrace the principals of Communism like she does.
 
Fonda, at the time, was a confused young person who didn't know what the phuque she was doing in life. What she did was grandstanding, unnecessary and non-constructive, especially to the anti-war movement. It was not serious and not a big deal.
The enemy was the lying policy, much like Iraq, that this was somehow for America. The Vietnamese Communists were insidious sadists who sacrificed their people stupidly. They did not understand their enemy any better than the Americans understood them.
But the Communists were not the real enemy of the American people and our brave brothers and sons who all were casualties, at least psychologically, of that horrible adventure. The real enemy was America's own 'leaders'.
Unlike Iraq, however, Vietnam was not against international law. War crimes were committed, but the intervention itself was not a crime. Iraq was.
Nixon was a war criminal. Kissinger is a war criminal. So are those responsible for Iraq.

President Johnson a democrat got us into the war.
Nixon a republican got us out of the war.
 
Eisenhower, a Republican, oversaw a refusal to accept political reality in a country where the US had no business intervening. Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon continued and compounded the egregious policy. Americans paid with blood and money, as with Iraq.
The enemy was and is political agendas that sacrifice America and Americans (and countless other people, of course).
 
Eisenhower, a Republican, oversaw a refusal to accept political reality in a country where the US had no business intervening. Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon continued and compounded the egregious policy. Americans paid with blood and money, as with Iraq.
The enemy was and is political agendas that sacrifice America and Americans (and countless other people, of course).

Whether you like it or not Nixon ended the Viet Nam war.
Ending the Vietnam War
 
Fonda, at the time, was a confused young person who didn't know what the phuque she was doing in life. What she did was grandstanding, unnecessary and non-constructive, especially to the anti-war movement. It was not serious and not a big deal.
The enemy was the lying policy, much like Iraq, that this was somehow for America. The Vietnamese Communists were insidious sadists who sacrificed their people stupidly. They did not understand their enemy any better than the Americans understood them.
But the Communists were not the real enemy of the American people and our brave brothers and sons who all were casualties, at least psychologically, of that horrible adventure. The real enemy was America's own 'leaders'.
Unlike Iraq, however, Vietnam was not against international law. War crimes were committed, but the intervention itself was not a crime. Iraq was.
Nixon was a war criminal. Kissinger is a war criminal. So are those responsible for Iraq.


I could not agree more and you can put Robert McNamara at the top of that list. Even he finally admitted that he was wrong.

WHY is it that people don't understand that the real enemy is war itself?

And dammit, why do those who know the least, yell the loudest?
 
Fonda, at the time, was a confused young person who didn't know what the phuque she was doing in life. What she did was grandstanding, unnecessary and non-constructive, especially to the anti-war movement. It was not serious and not a big deal.
The enemy was the lying policy, much like Iraq, that this was somehow for America. The Vietnamese Communists were insidious sadists who sacrificed their people stupidly. They did not understand their enemy any better than the Americans understood them.
But the Communists were not the real enemy of the American people and our brave brothers and sons who all were casualties, at least psychologically, of that horrible adventure. The real enemy was America's own 'leaders'.
Unlike Iraq, however, Vietnam was not against international law. War crimes were committed, but the intervention itself was not a crime. Iraq was.
Nixon was a war criminal. Kissinger is a war criminal. So are those responsible for Iraq.

President Johnson a democrat got us into the war.
Nixon a republican got us out of the war.


Oh for Pete's sake.

Vietnam (not)war started long before LBJ was in office.
 
Eisenhower, a Republican, oversaw a refusal to accept political reality in a country where the US had no business intervening. Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon continued and compounded the egregious policy. Americans paid with blood and money, as with Iraq.
The enemy was and is political agendas that sacrifice America and Americans (and countless other people, of course).

Whether you like it or not Nixon ended the Viet Nam war.
Ending the Vietnam War


Nope.
 
Eisenhower, a Republican, oversaw a refusal to accept political reality in a country where the US had no business intervening. Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon continued and compounded the egregious policy. Americans paid with blood and money, as with Iraq.
The enemy was and is political agendas that sacrifice America and Americans (and countless other people, of course).

Whether you like it or not Nixon ended the Viet Nam war.
Ending the Vietnam War


Nope.

OK smarty pants who did?
And don't say it was the protestors because they protested for years and the war still continued.
 
A true American Patriot stands up against unjust wars. Fonda risked her career to fight for what was right

Wayne ducked his chance to fight just to make a buck and then wrapped himself in the flag as an ideal of the true American Patriot

Jane Fonda was the true patriot

No American should ever go to the enemy during any war and take photos and laugh with them.
Yup

Doesn't negate the fact that Fonda was right abbout the war and John Wayne was wrong

No American should advocate escallating a bad war either...Wayne did

Historical Facts;
It is historical record that our involvement in the Viet Nam war occurred long after North Viet Nam had fully committed to Communist "colonization" of the South.
It is historical record that a Republican administration refused to enter Vietnam.
President Eisenhower relied on the judgment of our finest advisors (the Ridgeway Report) rather than political expediency, in deciding that the military requirements for such a war exceeded the probable importance to our National interests.
It is historical record that our entry into the war, and its total mis-management, was initiated and prosecuted by a Democrat administration, and President Johnson.
The agony of the Vietnam war was finally ended during a Republican administration, under President Nixon.
South Vietnam was only defeated, with tens of thousands of subsequent deaths in "Re-education Camps," after the Anti Vietnam movement encouraged a feckless Congress to ignore our promises of logistic support to South Vietnam and, ultimately, betray them.

Jane Fonda knew nothing about theses facts and she marched right into the Communists camp because she is for communism.
She was a Hollywood sex bimbo back then just like she is now.
We turned what was really a civil war into a Cold War. We had no reason to get involved ant the "Domino theory" never happened

Jane Fonda was right that it was a morally wrong war, we had no strategy to win and we're sending more and more troops in the hopes we could wear them out

Fonda was a true patriot......taking on her government for what was right


Only if you love and embrace the principals of Communism like she does.
What nonsense

Jane Fonda is no communist. She loves her country more than John Wayne. Fonda was willing to give up her career for what is right

John Wayne wasn't
 
Eisenhower, a Republican, oversaw a refusal to accept political reality in a country where the US had no business intervening. Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon continued and compounded the egregious policy. Americans paid with blood and money, as with Iraq.
The enemy was and is political agendas that sacrifice America and Americans (and countless other people, of course).

Whether you like it or not Nixon ended the Viet Nam war.
Ending the Vietnam War


Nope.

OK smarty pants who did?
And don't say it was the protestors because they protested for years and the war still continued.
The War Hawks lost the heart and soul of the country
The protestors, like Fonda and John Kerry stripped away the false patriotism and We the People realized our country had made a grave mistake.

My country right or wrong no longer deceived the people
 
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No American should ever go to the enemy during any war and take photos and laugh with them.
Yup

Doesn't negate the fact that Fonda was right abbout the war and John Wayne was wrong

No American should advocate escallating a bad war either...Wayne did

Historical Facts;
It is historical record that our involvement in the Viet Nam war occurred long after North Viet Nam had fully committed to Communist "colonization" of the South.
It is historical record that a Republican administration refused to enter Vietnam.
President Eisenhower relied on the judgment of our finest advisors (the Ridgeway Report) rather than political expediency, in deciding that the military requirements for such a war exceeded the probable importance to our National interests.
It is historical record that our entry into the war, and its total mis-management, was initiated and prosecuted by a Democrat administration, and President Johnson.
The agony of the Vietnam war was finally ended during a Republican administration, under President Nixon.
South Vietnam was only defeated, with tens of thousands of subsequent deaths in "Re-education Camps," after the Anti Vietnam movement encouraged a feckless Congress to ignore our promises of logistic support to South Vietnam and, ultimately, betray them.

Jane Fonda knew nothing about theses facts and she marched right into the Communists camp because she is for communism.
She was a Hollywood sex bimbo back then just like she is now.
We turned what was really a civil war into a Cold War. We had no reason to get involved ant the "Domino theory" never happened

Jane Fonda was right that it was a morally wrong war, we had no strategy to win and we're sending more and more troops in the hopes we could wear them out

Fonda was a true patriot......taking on her government for what was right


Only if you love and embrace the principals of Communism like she does.
What nonsense

Jane Fonda is no communist. She loves her country more than John Wayne. Fonda was willing to give up her career for what is right

John Wayne wasn't

Yes she was.
She went to many college campus's throughout the USA in the 1970's advocating for it.
 
Eisenhower, a Republican, oversaw a refusal to accept political reality in a country where the US had no business intervening. Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon continued and compounded the egregious policy. Americans paid with blood and money, as with Iraq.
The enemy was and is political agendas that sacrifice America and Americans (and countless other people, of course).

Whether you like it or not Nixon ended the Viet Nam war.
Ending the Vietnam War


Nope.

OK smarty pants who did?
And don't say it was the protestors because they protested for years and the war still continued.


There was no "end". Nixon declared "peace with honor" but it was anything but. As with other (not) wars, we simply pulled out.

The ignorance about that NOT war is very disheartening. Its what makes it easy for a new generation to say and believe we can just up and make war on some tiny country with anything but the same result. That ignorance is what makes it possible for you RW fools to say we should mount a ground war on ISIS.

Its idiocy and you don't even know it.

That means when the war machine, those who profit from death, say 'let's go', you'll vote for it.
 
Yup

Doesn't negate the fact that Fonda was right abbout the war and John Wayne was wrong

No American should advocate escallating a bad war either...Wayne did

Historical Facts;
It is historical record that our involvement in the Viet Nam war occurred long after North Viet Nam had fully committed to Communist "colonization" of the South.
It is historical record that a Republican administration refused to enter Vietnam.
President Eisenhower relied on the judgment of our finest advisors (the Ridgeway Report) rather than political expediency, in deciding that the military requirements for such a war exceeded the probable importance to our National interests.
It is historical record that our entry into the war, and its total mis-management, was initiated and prosecuted by a Democrat administration, and President Johnson.
The agony of the Vietnam war was finally ended during a Republican administration, under President Nixon.
South Vietnam was only defeated, with tens of thousands of subsequent deaths in "Re-education Camps," after the Anti Vietnam movement encouraged a feckless Congress to ignore our promises of logistic support to South Vietnam and, ultimately, betray them.

Jane Fonda knew nothing about theses facts and she marched right into the Communists camp because she is for communism.
She was a Hollywood sex bimbo back then just like she is now.
We turned what was really a civil war into a Cold War. We had no reason to get involved ant the "Domino theory" never happened

Jane Fonda was right that it was a morally wrong war, we had no strategy to win and we're sending more and more troops in the hopes we could wear them out

Fonda was a true patriot......taking on her government for what was right


Only if you love and embrace the principals of Communism like she does.
What nonsense

Jane Fonda is no communist. She loves her country more than John Wayne. Fonda was willing to give up her career for what is right

John Wayne wasn't

Yes she was.
She went to many college campus's throughout the USA in the 1970's advocating for it.


And the willful refusal to learn, change, evolve really does doom our efforts.

You have decided what you want to believe and you have no use for anything that does not feed that voracious machine.
 
Fonda, at the time, was a confused young person who didn't know what the phuque she was doing in life. What she did was grandstanding, unnecessary and non-constructive, especially to the anti-war movement. It was not serious and not a big deal.
The enemy was the lying policy, much like Iraq, that this was somehow for America. The Vietnamese Communists were insidious sadists who sacrificed their people stupidly. They did not understand their enemy any better than the Americans understood them.
But the Communists were not the real enemy of the American people and our brave brothers and sons who all were casualties, at least psychologically, of that horrible adventure. The real enemy was America's own 'leaders'.
Unlike Iraq, however, Vietnam was not against international law. War crimes were committed, but the intervention itself was not a crime. Iraq was.
Nixon was a war criminal. Kissinger is a war criminal. So are those responsible for Iraq.

President Johnson a democrat got us into the war.
Nixon a republican got us out of the war.


Oh for Pete's sake.

Vietnam (not)war started long before LBJ was in office.

Yes it did and Eisenhower and Kennedy kept us mainly out of it and only used special forces.
It was Johnson that drafted our kids.
 
Yup

Doesn't negate the fact that Fonda was right abbout the war and John Wayne was wrong

No American should advocate escallating a bad war either...Wayne did

Historical Facts;
It is historical record that our involvement in the Viet Nam war occurred long after North Viet Nam had fully committed to Communist "colonization" of the South.
It is historical record that a Republican administration refused to enter Vietnam.
President Eisenhower relied on the judgment of our finest advisors (the Ridgeway Report) rather than political expediency, in deciding that the military requirements for such a war exceeded the probable importance to our National interests.
It is historical record that our entry into the war, and its total mis-management, was initiated and prosecuted by a Democrat administration, and President Johnson.
The agony of the Vietnam war was finally ended during a Republican administration, under President Nixon.
South Vietnam was only defeated, with tens of thousands of subsequent deaths in "Re-education Camps," after the Anti Vietnam movement encouraged a feckless Congress to ignore our promises of logistic support to South Vietnam and, ultimately, betray them.

Jane Fonda knew nothing about theses facts and she marched right into the Communists camp because she is for communism.
She was a Hollywood sex bimbo back then just like she is now.
We turned what was really a civil war into a Cold War. We had no reason to get involved ant the "Domino theory" never happened

Jane Fonda was right that it was a morally wrong war, we had no strategy to win and we're sending more and more troops in the hopes we could wear them out

Fonda was a true patriot......taking on her government for what was right


Only if you love and embrace the principals of Communism like she does.
What nonsense

Jane Fonda is no communist. She loves her country more than John Wayne. Fonda was willing to give up her career for what is right

John Wayne wasn't

Yes she was.
She went to many college campus's throughout the USA in the 1970's advocating for it.


Many people were saying the same things she said - that we were lied to and that people were dying because of those lies. Very much like the lies we have been told about Iraq and other NOT wars.

Communism - no.

An end to the blood bath - YES. I was one of those people who lost loved ones in VN and spoke out against it. I would do that again.

If you're ever able to let go of your partisan hatred, you might just learn a thing or two about what really happened in VN. But, you are one who needs to hold on to the hate and nurse it.

That's your choice.

Oh and BTW, whether you like it or not, there is nothing illegal about believing in Communism. Not many do. Its like believing in Ayn Rand. It looks good until you get close and educate yourself. But, even if you do believe in it, its not illegal.
 
Yup

Doesn't negate the fact that Fonda was right abbout the war and John Wayne was wrong

No American should advocate escallating a bad war either...Wayne did

Historical Facts;
It is historical record that our involvement in the Viet Nam war occurred long after North Viet Nam had fully committed to Communist "colonization" of the South.
It is historical record that a Republican administration refused to enter Vietnam.
President Eisenhower relied on the judgment of our finest advisors (the Ridgeway Report) rather than political expediency, in deciding that the military requirements for such a war exceeded the probable importance to our National interests.
It is historical record that our entry into the war, and its total mis-management, was initiated and prosecuted by a Democrat administration, and President Johnson.
The agony of the Vietnam war was finally ended during a Republican administration, under President Nixon.
South Vietnam was only defeated, with tens of thousands of subsequent deaths in "Re-education Camps," after the Anti Vietnam movement encouraged a feckless Congress to ignore our promises of logistic support to South Vietnam and, ultimately, betray them.

Jane Fonda knew nothing about theses facts and she marched right into the Communists camp because she is for communism.
She was a Hollywood sex bimbo back then just like she is now.
We turned what was really a civil war into a Cold War. We had no reason to get involved ant the "Domino theory" never happened

Jane Fonda was right that it was a morally wrong war, we had no strategy to win and we're sending more and more troops in the hopes we could wear them out

Fonda was a true patriot......taking on her government for what was right


Only if you love and embrace the principals of Communism like she does.
What nonsense

Jane Fonda is no communist. She loves her country more than John Wayne. Fonda was willing to give up her career for what is right

John Wayne wasn't

Yes she was.
She went to many college campus's throughout the USA in the 1970's advocating for it.

Yes....to the John Birchers every liberal was a commie

JFK, Dr King, RFK, Fonda and every war protestor
 
Historical Facts;
It is historical record that our involvement in the Viet Nam war occurred long after North Viet Nam had fully committed to Communist "colonization" of the South.
It is historical record that a Republican administration refused to enter Vietnam.
President Eisenhower relied on the judgment of our finest advisors (the Ridgeway Report) rather than political expediency, in deciding that the military requirements for such a war exceeded the probable importance to our National interests.
It is historical record that our entry into the war, and its total mis-management, was initiated and prosecuted by a Democrat administration, and President Johnson.
The agony of the Vietnam war was finally ended during a Republican administration, under President Nixon.
South Vietnam was only defeated, with tens of thousands of subsequent deaths in "Re-education Camps," after the Anti Vietnam movement encouraged a feckless Congress to ignore our promises of logistic support to South Vietnam and, ultimately, betray them.

Jane Fonda knew nothing about theses facts and she marched right into the Communists camp because she is for communism.
She was a Hollywood sex bimbo back then just like she is now.
We turned what was really a civil war into a Cold War. We had no reason to get involved ant the "Domino theory" never happened

Jane Fonda was right that it was a morally wrong war, we had no strategy to win and we're sending more and more troops in the hopes we could wear them out

Fonda was a true patriot......taking on her government for what was right


Only if you love and embrace the principals of Communism like she does.
What nonsense

Jane Fonda is no communist. She loves her country more than John Wayne. Fonda was willing to give up her career for what is right

John Wayne wasn't

Yes she was.
She went to many college campus's throughout the USA in the 1970's advocating for it.


And the willful refusal to learn, change, evolve really does doom our efforts.

You have decided what you want to believe and you have no use for anything that does not feed that voracious machine.

She talked at the College campus I went to in early 1973 and she was very much for Communism.
You are the one who refuses to learn, change or evolve.
 

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