Jesus on Marriage...

[mal]

I am NOT for the Government Defining Marriage on anyone's Religious Beliefs, this is simply to Address those who Feel that Jesus was Pro-Gay or Pro-Gay Marriage...

“Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” - Matthew 19:4-6.

Jesus is pretty damned Clear on what Marriage is...

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What I am going to need from the "Jesus was not a Homophobe" Crowd here @ USMB is a couple of things...

Where Jesus Reverses the Consistent References of Sin and Abomination regarding Homosexuality throughout the Old and New Testaments.

"For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."
—Romans 1:26-27 (NKJV)

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
—1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)

"Knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,"
—1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NKJV)

And that's not even touching Leviticus where Homosexuality is Spoken of Harsher than Beastiality.

Leviticus 18. The Holy Bible: King James Version.

21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: Lev. 20.1-5 I am the LORD.

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Lev. 20.13

23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Ex. 22.19 · Lev. 20.15, 16 · Deut. 27.21

24 ¶ Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

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^That is Moral Law... It makes no Reference in 18 to what you can and can't eat... That was Jewish Cerimonial Law so save that Line.

Jesus didn't come here to Condone Sin... And Homosexuals can't make an Assumption that the "Sin" and "Abomination" that Homosexuality is called 100% of the time it's Referenced in the Bible was somehow OK with Jesus because he told us not to Judge...

The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:7-8 ESV

Jesus was Clear... And we are not to Condone Sin nor Hate the Sinner but it is Absurd for Homosexuals to expect the Christian Church to Embrace what is so Clearly Sin in the Eyes of God, and what's more, to give it Sanction in Marriage.

I've given plenty of Reference... Now make the case that Jesus was Pro-Gay Marriage and that somehow when he was Referring to Man and Wife as God Designed it, he really meant whatever Coupling of Human Gender you please or that feels good to you.

I'll be here.



peace...

 

[mal]

One or more of the following, and likely in this order will respond to this Thread by calling me a Fag by Insinuation:

Bodecea.
Plasmaball.
Jose.
Ravi.
Valeravie.
del (unfortunately).
G.T. (Because Pinky's trying so hard to fit in).

Just wanted to be sure that was said in Advance of it happening.

Carry on.



peace...

 

[Ravi]

You spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex.

 

[mal]

You spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex.

See Post #2 for this Predictable Non-Response to the Information Provided in Post #1.

Thanks for being what you are Ravi.



peace...

 

[mal]

Hey Ravi... When you get that Fishy Peanut Butter stank off your breath, you should go and start a Flame Thread about this.



peace...

 

[mal]

I'm going to go ahead and Assume that Ravi is Incapable of Countering my OP or making the case that Jesus was Pro-Gay or Pro-Gay Marriage.

Noted... Coward.



peace...

 

[Valerie]

I'm going to go ahead and Assume that Ravi is Incapable of Countering my OP or making the case that Jesus was Pro-Gay or Pro-Gay Marriage.

Noted... Coward.



peace...

Bwahahaha if she doesn't respond she is a coward and if she does she is "stalking" you!





Jesus said, "whatever you did to the least of these, you did to Me"

 

[onecut39]

I'm going to go ahead and Assume that Ravi is Incapable of Countering my OP or making the case that Jesus was Pro-Gay or Pro-Gay Marriage.

Noted... Coward.



peace...

Jesus was so very concerned about homosexuality he said exactly nothing about it. Not a damn thing! That's how high it was on his list of concerns.

 

[Valerie]

You spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex.

It's the only way he can get the attention he is evidently so desperate for!



Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gAY!

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I am NOT for the Government Defining Marriage on anyone's Religious Beliefs, this is simply to Address those who Feel that Jesus was Pro-Gay or Pro-Gay Marriage...

“Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” - Matthew 19:4-6.

Jesus is pretty damned Clear on what Marriage is...

---

What I am going to need from the "Jesus was not a Homophobe" Crowd here @ USMB is a couple of things...

Where Jesus Reverses the Consistent References of Sin and Abomination regarding Homosexuality throughout the Old and New Testaments.

"For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."
—Romans 1:26-27 (NKJV)

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
—1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)

"Knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,"
—1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NKJV)

And that's not even touching Leviticus where Homosexuality is Spoken of Harsher than Beastiality.

Leviticus 18. The Holy Bible: King James Version.

21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: Lev. 20.1-5 I am the LORD.

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Lev. 20.13

23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Ex. 22.19 · Lev. 20.15, 16 · Deut. 27.21

24 ¶ Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

---

^That is Moral Law... It makes no Reference in 18 to what you can and can't eat... That was Jewish Cerimonial Law so save that Line.

Jesus didn't come here to Condone Sin... And Homosexuals can't make an Assumption that the "Sin" and "Abomination" that Homosexuality is called 100% of the time it's Referenced in the Bible was somehow OK with Jesus because he told us not to Judge...

The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:7-8 ESV

Jesus was Clear... And we are not to Condone Sin nor Hate the Sinner but it is Absurd for Homosexuals to expect the Christian Church to Embrace what is so Clearly Sin in the Eyes of God, and what's more, to give it Sanction in Marriage.

I've given plenty of Reference... Now make the case that Jesus was Pro-Gay Marriage and that somehow when he was Referring to Man and Wife as God Designed it, he really meant whatever Coupling of Human Gender you please or that feels good to you.

I'll be here.



peace...

Well said.

I also don't believe the federal government has the authority, under the constitution, to define marriage in any way. I'm also not a christian/catholic/whatever religion type of person as I don't have a religion but what you said is true.

Jesus and the catholics/christians did not accept 2 individuals of the same sex being together in an intimate relationship. They just didn't.

Its cool with me if you are gay just don't let your zealotry for being gay allow you to dishonestly portray people's religions in an effort to gain acceptance.

You are here, You are Queer, We are used to it.
You are here, You are Queer, Get over yourselves!

 

[Ravi]

You spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex.

It's the only way he can get the attention he is evidently so desperate for!



Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gAY!

Actually, he usually calls them Homos or Homosexuals with a capital H. I believe he enjoys how those words roll off his tongue.

 

[Valerie]

One or more of the following, and likely in this order will respond to this Thread by calling me a Fag by Insinuation:

Bodecea.
Plasmaball.
Jose.
Ravi.
Valeravie.
del (unfortunately).
G.T. (Because Pinky's trying so hard to fit in).

Just wanted to be sure that was said in Advance of it happening.

Carry on.



peace...

I don't think you're gay, mal... I just think you're stuck on stoopid.



Please keep in mind, if you're capable, that if I were ever to call you gay, that just means I'm only pushing your big gay button!

 

[del]

i don't define my marriage by what other people do or don't do.



you should try it.

 

[Valerie]

...........Jesus' favorite T-Shirt ^

 

[Valerie]

You spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex.

It's the only way he can get the attention he is evidently so desperate for!



Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gAY!

Actually, he usually calls them Homos or Homosexuals with a capital H. I believe he enjoys how those words roll off his tongue.

It's just so precious the way he quotes the Old Testament in an OP about Jesus.




We've been through this before mal, you're boring us to tears...



‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— then he is to take his wife to the priest.


“‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse.


Here the priest is to put the woman under this curse —“may the Lord cause you to become a cursed among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”


“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it. ”



ABORTION? WWJD...........???

 

[mal]

One or more of the following, and likely in this order will respond to this Thread by calling me a Fag by Insinuation:

Bodecea.
Plasmaball.
Jose.
Ravi.
Valeravie.
del (unfortunately).
G.T. (Because Pinky's trying so hard to fit in).

Just wanted to be sure that was said in Advance of it happening.

Carry on.



peace...

I don't think you're gay, mal... I just think you're stuck on stoopid.



Please keep in mind, if you're capable, that if I were ever to call you gay, that just means I'm only pushing your big gay button!

It's your Right to be Wrong.



peace...

 

[mal]

i don't define my marriage by what other people do or don't do.



you should try it.

That's all fine... This is an expansion on a Debate from another Thread and it's Specific to Christians or those Claiming the Faith Based on the Bible.

It is not about Proving Facts or saying that Homosexuality is Right or Wrong outside of Christianity.

If you are not a Christian and don't follow Jesus and the Book, then this Thread probably doesn't Concern you.



peace...

 

[mal]

I am NOT for the Government Defining Marriage on anyone's Religious Beliefs, this is simply to Address those who Feel that Jesus was Pro-Gay or Pro-Gay Marriage...

“Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” - Matthew 19:4-6.

Jesus is pretty damned Clear on what Marriage is...

---

What I am going to need from the "Jesus was not a Homophobe" Crowd here @ USMB is a couple of things...

Where Jesus Reverses the Consistent References of Sin and Abomination regarding Homosexuality throughout the Old and New Testaments.

"For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."
—Romans 1:26-27 (NKJV)

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
—1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)

"Knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,"
—1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NKJV)

And that's not even touching Leviticus where Homosexuality is Spoken of Harsher than Beastiality.

Leviticus 18. The Holy Bible: King James Version.

21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: Lev. 20.1-5 I am the LORD.

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Lev. 20.13

23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Ex. 22.19 · Lev. 20.15, 16 · Deut. 27.21

24 ¶ Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

---

^That is Moral Law... It makes no Reference in 18 to what you can and can't eat... That was Jewish Cerimonial Law so save that Line.

Jesus didn't come here to Condone Sin... And Homosexuals can't make an Assumption that the "Sin" and "Abomination" that Homosexuality is called 100% of the time it's Referenced in the Bible was somehow OK with Jesus because he told us not to Judge...

The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:7-8 ESV

Jesus was Clear... And we are not to Condone Sin nor Hate the Sinner but it is Absurd for Homosexuals to expect the Christian Church to Embrace what is so Clearly Sin in the Eyes of God, and what's more, to give it Sanction in Marriage.

I've given plenty of Reference... Now make the case that Jesus was Pro-Gay Marriage and that somehow when he was Referring to Man and Wife as God Designed it, he really meant whatever Coupling of Human Gender you please or that feels good to you.

I'll be here.



peace...

Well said.

I also don't believe the federal government has the authority, under the constitution, to define marriage in any way. I'm also not a christian/catholic/whatever religion type of person as I don't have a religion but what you said is true.

Jesus and the catholics/christians did not accept 2 individuals of the same sex being together in an intimate relationship. They just didn't.

Its cool with me if you are gay just don't let your zealotry for being gay allow you to dishonestly portray people's religions in an effort to gain acceptance.

You are here, You are Queer, We are used to it.
You are here, You are Queer, Get over yourselves!

Exactly.



peace...

 

[mal]

You spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex.

It's the only way he can get the attention he is evidently so desperate for!



Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gAY!

Actually, he usually calls them Homos or Homosexuals with a capital H. I believe he enjoys how those words roll off his tongue.

I Capitalize Heterosexual also you Miserable little Person.

Do you want to Debate this Issue or are you just going to Troll and Verify my Prediction about you further?



peace...

 

[del]

i don't define my marriage by what other people do or don't do.



you should try it.

That's all fine... This is an expansion on a Debate from another Thread and it's Specific to Christians or those Claiming the Faith Based on the Bible.

It is not about Proving Facts or saying that Homosexuality is Right or Wrong outside of Christianity.

If you are not a Christian and don't follow Jesus and the Book, then this Thread probably doesn't Concern you.



peace...

is next week muslim week?