Jesus on Marriage...

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    I am NOT for the Government Defining Marriage on anyone's Religious Beliefs, this is simply to Address those who Feel that Jesus was Pro-Gay or Pro-Gay Marriage...

    “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” - Matthew 19:4-6.

    Jesus is pretty damned Clear on what Marriage is... :thup:

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    What I am going to need from the "Jesus was not a Homophobe" Crowd here @ USMB is a couple of things...

    Where Jesus Reverses the Consistent References of Sin and Abomination regarding Homosexuality throughout the Old and New Testaments.

    "For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."
    —Romans 1:26-27 (NKJV)

    "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
    —1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)

    "Knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,"
    —1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NKJV)


    And that's not even touching Leviticus where Homosexuality is Spoken of Harsher than Beastiality.

    Leviticus 18. The Holy Bible: King James Version.

    21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: Lev. 20.1-5 I am the LORD.

    22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Lev. 20.13

    23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Ex. 22.19 · Lev. 20.15, 16 · Deut. 27.21

    24 ¶ Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things
    : for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

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    ^That is Moral Law... It makes no Reference in 18 to what you can and can't eat... That was Jewish Cerimonial Law so save that Line. :thup:

    Jesus didn't come here to Condone Sin... And Homosexuals can't make an Assumption that the "Sin" and "Abomination" that Homosexuality is called 100% of the time it's Referenced in the Bible was somehow OK with Jesus because he told us not to Judge...

    The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:7-8 ESV

    Jesus was Clear... And we are not to Condone Sin nor Hate the Sinner but it is Absurd for Homosexuals to expect the Christian Church to Embrace what is so Clearly Sin in the Eyes of God, and what's more, to give it Sanction in Marriage.

    I've given plenty of Reference... Now make the case that Jesus was Pro-Gay Marriage and that somehow when he was Referring to Man and Wife as God Designed it, he really meant whatever Coupling of Human Gender you please or that feels good to you.

    I'll be here.

    :)

    peace...
     
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    One or more of the following, and likely in this order will respond to this Thread by calling me a Fag by Insinuation:

    Bodecea.
    Plasmaball.
    Jose.
    Ravi.
    Valeravie.
    del (unfortunately).
    G.T. (Because Pinky's trying so hard to fit in).

    Just wanted to be sure that was said in Advance of it happening.

    Carry on.

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    You spend a lot of time thinking about gay sex.
     
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    See Post #2 for this Predictable Non-Response to the Information Provided in Post #1.

    Thanks for being what you are Ravi. :thup:

    :)

    peace...
     
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    Hey Ravi... When you get that Fishy Peanut Butter stank off your breath, you should go and start a Flame Thread about this. :thup:

    :)

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    I'm going to go ahead and Assume that Ravi is Incapable of Countering my OP or making the case that Jesus was Pro-Gay or Pro-Gay Marriage.

    Noted... Coward. :thup:

    :)

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    Bwahahaha if she doesn't respond she is a coward and if she does she is "stalking" you! :lol:





    Jesus said, "whatever you did to the least of these, you did to Me" :eusa_whistle:
     
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    Jesus was so very concerned about homosexuality he said exactly nothing about it. Not a damn thing! That's how high it was on his list of concerns.
     
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    It's the only way he can get the attention he is evidently so desperate for! :lol:



    Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gAY! :uhoh3:
     
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    Well said.

    I also don't believe the federal government has the authority, under the constitution, to define marriage in any way. I'm also not a christian/catholic/whatever religion type of person as I don't have a religion but what you said is true.

    Jesus and the catholics/christians did not accept 2 individuals of the same sex being together in an intimate relationship. They just didn't.

    Its cool with me if you are gay just don't let your zealotry for being gay allow you to dishonestly portray people's religions in an effort to gain acceptance.

    You are here, You are Queer, We are used to it.
    You are here, You are Queer, Get over yourselves!

    :)
     
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