Islam and Christian comparisons

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by Spirit_Soul, Oct 23, 2003.

  1. Spirit_Soul

    Spirit_Soul Guest

    This is from a website about Islam and Bible and how they present the status of females in their scriptures.

    Christianity: "When the woman (Eve) saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband (Adam), who was with her, and he ate it...Then the man (Adam) and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. But the Lord God called to the man, "Where are you?" He (Adam) answered, "I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid." And he (God) said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?" The man said, "The woman (Eve) you put here with me-she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it." Then the Lord God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." To the woman he (God) said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." To Adam he (God) said, "Because you listen to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life."

    Islam (Quran): (God said):"O Adam! You and your wife dwell in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as you wish: but do not approach this tree, or you run into harm and transgression." "Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to them (Adam and Eve), bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them (before): he (Satan) said: "Your Lord only forbade you this tree, lest you should become angels or such beings as live for ever." "And he (Satan) swore to them both, that he was their sincere adviser." "So by deceit he brought about their (Adam and Eve) fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the Garden over their bodies. And their Lord called to them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy to you?" "They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged our own souls: if You do not forgive us and do not bestow upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be lost"
  2. Spirit_Soul

    Spirit_Soul Guest

    Can I know this "uncleanliness" ? Is it similar to Hindu uncleanliness?- you are made to stay away from religious duties and other daily activities when you have your period or give birth to a child?

    Bible : "...if a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days...but if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks..."

    Quran : ""To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. He creates what He wills. He bestows female children to whomever He wills and bestows male children to whomever He wills. "

    Hadith : "He who is involved in bringing up daughters, and accords benevolent treatment towards them, they will be protection for him against Hell-Fire." - Prophet Muhammed.

    On Female Spiritual Essence:

    Christian scriptures : "I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare." "Look," says the Teacher, "this is what I have discovered: "Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things-while I was still searching but not finding- I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all."

    Quranic scriptures : "And Allah sets forth, as an example to those who believe, the wife of Pharaoh: behold she said: 'O my Lord! build for me, in nearness to You, a mansion in the Garden, and save me from Pharaoh and his doings, and save me from those that do wrong," "And Mary the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants)."

    Hadith : "Heaven is at the feet of the mothers." - Prophet Muhammed.

    Bible more on uncleanliness : "When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. Whoever touches her bed must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Whoever touches anything she sits on must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Whether it is the bed or anything she was sitting on, when anyone touches it, he will be unclean till evening."

    Hadith : Ali asked the Prophet Mohammed if when a man and a woman make love then their clothes stick to them from the sweat of their bodies, or if when a woman has her period her clothes stick to her body, are the clothes considered unclean?
    The Prophet replied: "No, the uncleanness is only in the semen and the blood."

    For those who are ignorant of the Islamic scriptures and who continue to speak against it : the three main Islamic scriptures are as follows : Quran - Specifically believed to be the word of God.

    Hadith - Specifically believed to be the "words of God empowered being" Muhammed

    Sharia- The laws by which they abide to have a harmonious society, these are based on Quran and Hadith.
  3. Spirit_Soul

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    By the way, all of this is from

    On sexual relations during menstrual cycle: Bible : "Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period."

    Quran : "They ask you concerning women's courses (period). Say: They are a hurt and a pollution: so keep away (of making love) from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they are clean..."

    Bible : "let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law, and if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for woman to speak in the church."

    Quran : Seeking knowledge is obligatory on every Muslim man and Muslim woman.

    Bible : "Say to the Israelites, 'If a man dies and leaves no son, turn his inheritance over to his daughter...'

    Quran :"From what is left by parents and those nearest related there is a share for men and a share for women, whether the property be small or large, -a determinate share."

    Bible : "Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head...If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head"

    Quran : "O Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

    Bible : "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God"

    Quran : ...they (believing women) should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women...or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex..."

    Bible : "After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and wives in Jerusalem, and more sons and daughters were born to him."
    2 Samuel 5:13
    "He (Solomon) had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines..."
    1 Kings 11:3
    "And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
    Genesis 4:19
    "If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the first-born son be hers that was hated: then it shall be, when he maketh..."
    Deuteronomy 21:15
    "if he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall her not diminish."

    Quran : "If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one... to prevent you from doing injustice."
    Quran 4:3

    lol this is a good one :p
    Bible : "Do not take your wife's sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living." Leviticus 18:18

    Quran: ""Prohibited to you (for marriage) are: -your mothers, daughters, sisters...and two sisters (the wife and her sister) in wedlock at one and the same time..."
    Quran 4:23

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