Ingraham: A first lady double standard?

[Taz]

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

Look at you Ray. Using Russian propaganda talking points like a pro. What you posted is flat out lies and misstatements.

Actions speak louder than words Ray. Zelenskey is in no position to call Trump a liar when Trump sits next to him and says he didn't pressure Zelensky. We've seen how Trump treats those who don't go along with his lies. We have direct evidence from staffers that the Ukrainians were asking questions about their aid that indicated that they knew their aid was being held up.

Last but not least, Zelensky, scheduled an interview with CNN as directed, to announce investigations, and then cancelled the interview when the aid was released.

We had a LOT of direct witnesses: Sondland, Morrison, Yovanavich, Volker, Vindland.

Last but not least: IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THE PRESIDENT TO WITHHOLD FOREIGN AID OF ANY KIND, ONCE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE HAS APPROVED THE AID. IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR TRUMP TO WITHHOLD THE AID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

President Trump didn't withhold any aid.

You make President Zelensky sound like someone who is intimidated by President Trump. He doesn't look intimidated to me.

Once he's under oath, do you think Zelensky would lie for Trump when speaking before the nation?

Communists will never accept the fact that no aid was ever withheld.

Actually, the aid was withheld

It was released once the whistleblower complaint became known

Zelensky didn't know the aid was delayed, so it wasn't any pressure or coercion.

Are you making this up as you go along?

 

[rightwinger]

The President was violating the Constitution and it was reported. Demanding a bribe while in public office is against the oath of office.
It was reported, investigated by the IG and found to be a valid concern
It is now in the hands of Congress

That is not Deep State, that is the way our Constitutional Government is supposed to work

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

LOL

Sure Zelensky is going to provide cover for Trump. He needs US aid. Throwing the president under the bus would mean he has to wait until the next election.

No, I think even Zelensky knew that he could pressure Trump into releasing the money. That's besides the fact it was only held for a few weeks. The arm of the Democrat party--the MSM would have seen to that.

The President has to have a legitimate reason for holding on to the aid. Trump was checking things out and monitoring other UN countries to see what they were going to do.

What card did Zelensky have to pressure Trump?
Trump had the military aid Zelensky desperately needed.......he needed some personal favors first

 

[rightwinger]

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

Look at you Ray. Using Russian propaganda talking points like a pro. What you posted is flat out lies and misstatements.

Actions speak louder than words Ray. Zelenskey is in no position to call Trump a liar when Trump sits next to him and says he didn't pressure Zelensky. We've seen how Trump treats those who don't go along with his lies. We have direct evidence from staffers that the Ukrainians were asking questions about their aid that indicated that they knew their aid was being held up.

Last but not least, Zelensky, scheduled an interview with CNN as directed, to announce investigations, and then cancelled the interview when the aid was released.

We had a LOT of direct witnesses: Sondland, Morrison, Yovanavich, Volker, Vindland.

Last but not least: IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THE PRESIDENT TO WITHHOLD FOREIGN AID OF ANY KIND, ONCE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE HAS APPROVED THE AID. IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR TRUMP TO WITHHOLD THE AID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

President Trump didn't withhold any aid.

You make President Zelensky sound like someone who is intimidated by President Trump. He doesn't look intimidated to me.

Once he's under oath, do you think Zelensky would lie for Trump when speaking before the nation?

Communists will never accept the fact that no aid was ever withheld.

Actually, the aid was withheld

It was released once the whistleblower complaint became known

Zelensky didn't know the aid was delayed, so it wasn't any pressure or coercion.

He knew Trump wanted certain favors in return for the aid. Trump instructed him to talk with his staff for the details

 

[Polishprince]

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

LOL

Sure Zelensky is going to provide cover for Trump. He needs US aid. Throwing the president under the bus would mean he has to wait until the next election.

No, I think even Zelensky knew that he could pressure Trump into releasing the money. That's besides the fact it was only held for a few weeks. The arm of the Democrat party--the MSM would have seen to that.

The President has to have a legitimate reason for holding on to the aid. Trump was checking things out and monitoring other UN countries to see what they were going to do.

What card did Zelensky have to pressure Trump?
Trump had the military aid Zelensky desperately needed.......he needed some personal favors first

A Ukrainian investigation of Biden actually hurts Trump, however. Nothing would please President Trump more than if the Democrat Party were to nominate Sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe isn't all there, and President Trump likes competing against the Mentally Deficient.

The last thing Donald J. Trump would want to do is to knock him out of the race.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

LOL

Sure Zelensky is going to provide cover for Trump. He needs US aid. Throwing the president under the bus would mean he has to wait until the next election.

No, I think even Zelensky knew that he could pressure Trump into releasing the money. That's besides the fact it was only held for a few weeks. The arm of the Democrat party--the MSM would have seen to that.

The President has to have a legitimate reason for holding on to the aid. Trump was checking things out and monitoring other UN countries to see what they were going to do.

What card did Zelensky have to pressure Trump?
Trump had the military aid Zelensky desperately needed.......he needed some personal favors first

How did he desperately need it when he didn't even know it was being held up? Of course free money is good money, but remember, Trump provided military aid prior to that unlike Obama.

 

[playtime]

Who cares who the leaker was?
They provided a very valuable service to the nation

Many people care who the leaker was, because it's likely he had an agenda working for the deep state. And thanks to this "valuable service" no other leader of a country will ever discuss important information with a US President over the phone again.

Deep State.....what conspiracy nonsense

People doing their jobs and reporting unethical behavior is not Deep State.

They swear to defend the Constitution not to defend Trump

People doing their jobs and reporting unethical behavior is not Deep State.

Plotting to overthrow the duly elected president is not psrt of their job description

Which is what the unelected Deep State was engaged in

^^^

Obviously low education voters on the right have more wisdom than low education voters on the left

lol - you still support trump.


'nuff said.

 

[playtime]

The President was violating the Constitution and it was reported. Demanding a bribe while in public office is against the oath of office.
It was reported, investigated by the IG and found to be a valid concern
It is now in the hands of Congress

That is not Deep State, that is the way our Constitutional Government is supposed to work

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

Look at you Ray. Using Russian propaganda talking points like a pro. What you posted is flat out lies and misstatements.

Actions speak louder than words Ray. Zelenskey is in no position to call Trump a liar when Trump sits next to him and says he didn't pressure Zelensky. We've seen how Trump treats those who don't go along with his lies. We have direct evidence from staffers that the Ukrainians were asking questions about their aid that indicated that they knew their aid was being held up.

Last but not least, Zelensky, scheduled an interview with CNN as directed, to announce investigations, and then cancelled the interview when the aid was released.

We had a LOT of direct witnesses: Sondland, Morrison, Yovanavich, Volker, Vindland.

Last but not least: IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THE PRESIDENT TO WITHHOLD FOREIGN AID OF ANY KIND, ONCE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE HAS APPROVED THE AID. IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR TRUMP TO WITHHOLD THE AID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Shows you know nothing of what you're talking about. Didn't you watch the inquiries? If holding aid (that's always passed by Congress first) is illegal, then every President in the last 30 years is guilty. A President DOES have the right to withhold aid for whatever his reason may be. If it's illegal, then let's see Obama put on trial.

I never heard of this CNN thing. Care to provide a link? And what Ukrainians were asking questions about the aid when Zelensky didn't even know it was being held up?

wrong yet again, ray ray. the prez cannot hold aid without following strict guidelines & donny simply did not do that.

The Impoundment Control Act of 1974: What Is It? Why Does It Matter?
Oct 23, 2019
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What is the Impoundment Control Act?
The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (ICA) reasserted Congress’ power of the purse. Specifically, Title X of the Act – “Impoundment Control” – established procedures to prevent the President and other government officials from unilaterally substituting their own funding decisions for those of the Congress. The Act also created the House and Senate Budget Committees and the Congressional Budget Office.

Why was the ICA necessary?
Congress passed the ICA in response to President Nixon’s executive overreach – his Administration refused to release Congressionally appropriated funds for certain programs he opposed. While the U.S. Constitution broadly grants Congress the power of the purse, the President – through the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and executive agencies – is responsible for the actual spending of funds. The ICA created a process the President must follow if he or she seeks to delay or cancel funding that Congress has provided.

What does it mean to ‘impound’ funds?
An “impoundment” is any action – or inaction – by an officer or employee of the federal government that precludes federal funds from being obligated[1] or spent, either temporarily or permanently.

How does the ICA work?
The ICA lays out procedures the President must follow to reduce, delay, or eliminate funding in an account. The Act divides impoundments into two categories: rescissions and deferrals.
[...]
The Impoundment Control Act of 1974: What Is It? Why Does It Matter?

& that's why mick mulvaney is just as filthy dirty as trump.

 

[playtime]

The President was violating the Constitution and it was reported. Demanding a bribe while in public office is against the oath of office.
It was reported, investigated by the IG and found to be a valid concern
It is now in the hands of Congress

That is not Deep State, that is the way our Constitutional Government is supposed to work

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

zelinsky is trying to stop his people from being killed & his country from being taken over by putin.

duh, raymond. DUH.

WTF does that have to do with what I said?

zelinsky is still under pressure to bow so he'll get his cash & the US to have his back against putin. he'll still say what he needs to.

 

[playtime]

The President was violating the Constitution and it was reported. Demanding a bribe while in public office is against the oath of office.
It was reported, investigated by the IG and found to be a valid concern
It is now in the hands of Congress

That is not Deep State, that is the way our Constitutional Government is supposed to work

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

zelinsky is trying to stop his people from being killed & his country from being taken over by putin.

duh, raymond. DUH.

So what's your point?

Are you saying that Zelensky is a lying Ukrainian piece of shit?

Should be an interesting cross examination if there is an impeachment trail as Zelensky may well be called.

would you lie to save yours? zelensky will not be called.

 

[playtime]

The President was violating the Constitution and it was reported. Demanding a bribe while in public office is against the oath of office.
It was reported, investigated by the IG and found to be a valid concern
It is now in the hands of Congress

That is not Deep State, that is the way our Constitutional Government is supposed to work

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

LOL

Sure Zelensky is going to provide cover for Trump. He needs US aid. Throwing the president under the bus would mean he has to wait until the next election.

No, I think even Zelensky knew that he could pressure Trump into releasing the money. That's besides the fact it was only held for a few weeks. The arm of the Democrat party--the MSM would have seen to that.

The President has to have a legitimate reason for holding on to the aid. Trump was checking things out and monitoring other UN countries to see what they were going to do.

what? zelensky agreed to go on CNN & make his 'announcement' so he could save his people. duh duh DUH.

 

[rightwinger]

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

zelinsky is trying to stop his people from being killed & his country from being taken over by putin.

duh, raymond. DUH.

WTF does that have to do with what I said?

zelinsky is still under pressure to bow so he'll get his cash & the US to have his back against putin. he'll still say what he needs to.

It is in Zelenskys best interest to have this all just go away

 

[playtime]

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

LOL

Sure Zelensky is going to provide cover for Trump. He needs US aid. Throwing the president under the bus would mean he has to wait until the next election.

No, I think even Zelensky knew that he could pressure Trump into releasing the money. That's besides the fact it was only held for a few weeks. The arm of the Democrat party--the MSM would have seen to that.

The President has to have a legitimate reason for holding on to the aid. Trump was checking things out and monitoring other UN countries to see what they were going to do.

What card did Zelensky have to pressure Trump?
Trump had the military aid Zelensky desperately needed.......he needed some personal favors first

How did he desperately need it when he didn't even know it was being held up? Of course free money is good money, but remember, Trump provided military aid prior to that unlike Obama.

are you ever gonna get your head outa donny's colon, raymond?

Ukraine Knew of Aid Freeze by Early August, Undermining Trump Defense
Top officials were told in early August about the delay of $391 million in security assistance, undercutting a chief argument President Trump has used to deny any quid pro quo.
By Andrew E. Kramer and Kenneth P. Vogel

• Published Oct. 23, 2019Updated Oct. 24, 2019

KIEV, Ukraine — To Democrats who say that President Trump’s decision to freeze $391 million in military aid was intended to bully Ukraine’s leader into carrying out investigations for Mr. Trump’s political benefit, the president and his allies have had a simple response: There was no quid pro quo because the Ukrainians did not know assistance had been blocked.

Ukraine’s military struggled in a bare-bones fight against Russian-backed separatists.
But then on Tuesday, William B. Taylor Jr., the top United States diplomat in Kiev, told House impeachment investigators that the freeze was directly linked to Mr. Trump’s demand. That did not deter the president, who on Wednesday approvingly tweeted a quote by a congressional Republican saying neither Mr. Taylor nor any other witness had “provided testimony that the Ukrainians were aware that military aid was being withheld.”

In fact, word of the aid freeze had gotten to high-level Ukrainian officials by the first week in August, according to interviews and documents obtained by The New York Times.

The problem was not bureaucratic, the Ukrainians were told. To address it, they were advised, they should reach out to Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, according to the interviews and records.

The timing of the communications, which have not previously been reported, shows that Ukraine was aware the White House was holding up the funds weeks earlier than acknowledged.

It also means that the Ukrainian government was aware of the freeze during most of the period in August when Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani and two American diplomats were pressing President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to make a public commitment to the investigations.
[...]
Ukraine Knew of Aid Freeze by Early August, Undermining Trump Defense

 

[charwin95]

So where in the Constitution does it say for rats to report the President on anything? Unethical? Show me a law against unethical and how it's defined. How is that defending the Constitution when the word ethical is not even in the document.

Impeachment is for violations of high crimes and misdemeanors, neither of which Trump is guilty of. Furthermore the leaker is part of the deep state given the weak case he made for reporting this call. Trump did nothing wrong. He didn't demand a quid pro quo. He has every right to ask another leader to "look into" possible corruption by the past administration, even if one of them is currently running for the nomination of his party.

The President was violating the Constitution and it was reported. Demanding a bribe while in public office is against the oath of office.
It was reported, investigated by the IG and found to be a valid concern
It is now in the hands of Congress

That is not Deep State, that is the way our Constitutional Government is supposed to work

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

Look at you Ray. Using Russian propaganda talking points like a pro. What you posted is flat out lies and misstatements.

Actions speak louder than words Ray. Zelenskey is in no position to call Trump a liar when Trump sits next to him and says he didn't pressure Zelensky. We've seen how Trump treats those who don't go along with his lies. We have direct evidence from staffers that the Ukrainians were asking questions about their aid that indicated that they knew their aid was being held up.

Last but not least, Zelensky, scheduled an interview with CNN as directed, to announce investigations, and then cancelled the interview when the aid was released.

We had a LOT of direct witnesses: Sondland, Morrison, Yovanavich, Volker, Vindland.

Last but not least: IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THE PRESIDENT TO WITHHOLD FOREIGN AID OF ANY KIND, ONCE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE HAS APPROVED THE AID. IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR TRUMP TO WITHHOLD THE AID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Ray’s head been stuck in Trump ass and Putin for a long time that doesn’t know what he is talking about. These people should move to Russia.

 

[charwin95]

The President was violating the Constitution and it was reported. Demanding a bribe while in public office is against the oath of office.
It was reported, investigated by the IG and found to be a valid concern
It is now in the hands of Congress

That is not Deep State, that is the way our Constitutional Government is supposed to work

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

Look at you Ray. Using Russian propaganda talking points like a pro. What you posted is flat out lies and misstatements.

Actions speak louder than words Ray. Zelenskey is in no position to call Trump a liar when Trump sits next to him and says he didn't pressure Zelensky. We've seen how Trump treats those who don't go along with his lies. We have direct evidence from staffers that the Ukrainians were asking questions about their aid that indicated that they knew their aid was being held up.

Last but not least, Zelensky, scheduled an interview with CNN as directed, to announce investigations, and then cancelled the interview when the aid was released.

We had a LOT of direct witnesses: Sondland, Morrison, Yovanavich, Volker, Vindland.

Last but not least: IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THE PRESIDENT TO WITHHOLD FOREIGN AID OF ANY KIND, ONCE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE HAS APPROVED THE AID. IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR TRUMP TO WITHHOLD THE AID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

President Trump didn't withhold any aid.

You make President Zelensky sound like someone who is intimidated by President Trump. He doesn't look intimidated to me.

Once he's under oath, do you think Zelensky would lie for Trump when speaking before the nation?

Yes he did. Aid should have been release in May 2019. It wasn’t released till September when it has so much media exposure.

Sunday ( Dec. 8) Zelensky blasted Trump. Thought you may want to know.

 

[charwin95]

The President was violating the Constitution and it was reported. Demanding a bribe while in public office is against the oath of office.
It was reported, investigated by the IG and found to be a valid concern
It is now in the hands of Congress

That is not Deep State, that is the way our Constitutional Government is supposed to work

And this is where the lies are. Trump never demanded anything.

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

Look at you Ray. Using Russian propaganda talking points like a pro. What you posted is flat out lies and misstatements.

Actions speak louder than words Ray. Zelenskey is in no position to call Trump a liar when Trump sits next to him and says he didn't pressure Zelensky. We've seen how Trump treats those who don't go along with his lies. We have direct evidence from staffers that the Ukrainians were asking questions about their aid that indicated that they knew their aid was being held up.

Last but not least, Zelensky, scheduled an interview with CNN as directed, to announce investigations, and then cancelled the interview when the aid was released.

We had a LOT of direct witnesses: Sondland, Morrison, Yovanavich, Volker, Vindland.

Last but not least: IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THE PRESIDENT TO WITHHOLD FOREIGN AID OF ANY KIND, ONCE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE HAS APPROVED THE AID. IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR TRUMP TO WITHHOLD THE AID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Shows you know nothing of what you're talking about. Didn't you watch the inquiries? If holding aid (that's always passed by Congress first) is illegal, then every President in the last 30 years is guilty. A President DOES have the right to withhold aid for whatever his reason may be. If it's illegal, then let's see Obama put on trial.

I never heard of this CNN thing. Care to provide a link? And what Ukrainians were asking questions about the aid when Zelensky didn't even know it was being held up?

Dude you are out of order.

Yes we watched the hearing. Your statements came from Republicans bullshit defense.
Trump withhold the aid as a leverage to dig dirt against his political rival. Pure and simple. Abuse of power.
Impeach that piece of shit Trump.

 

[charwin95]

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

Look at you Ray. Using Russian propaganda talking points like a pro. What you posted is flat out lies and misstatements.

Actions speak louder than words Ray. Zelenskey is in no position to call Trump a liar when Trump sits next to him and says he didn't pressure Zelensky. We've seen how Trump treats those who don't go along with his lies. We have direct evidence from staffers that the Ukrainians were asking questions about their aid that indicated that they knew their aid was being held up.

Last but not least, Zelensky, scheduled an interview with CNN as directed, to announce investigations, and then cancelled the interview when the aid was released.

We had a LOT of direct witnesses: Sondland, Morrison, Yovanavich, Volker, Vindland.

Last but not least: IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THE PRESIDENT TO WITHHOLD FOREIGN AID OF ANY KIND, ONCE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE HAS APPROVED THE AID. IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR TRUMP TO WITHHOLD THE AID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

President Trump didn't withhold any aid.

You make President Zelensky sound like someone who is intimidated by President Trump. He doesn't look intimidated to me.

Once he's under oath, do you think Zelensky would lie for Trump when speaking before the nation?

Communists will never accept the fact that no aid was ever withheld.

Actually, the aid was withheld

It was released once the whistleblower complaint became known

Zelensky didn't know the aid was delayed, so it wasn't any pressure or coercion.

Wrong. He was aware since May this year.

 

[charwin95]

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

LOL

Sure Zelensky is going to provide cover for Trump. He needs US aid. Throwing the president under the bus would mean he has to wait until the next election.

No, I think even Zelensky knew that he could pressure Trump into releasing the money. That's besides the fact it was only held for a few weeks. The arm of the Democrat party--the MSM would have seen to that.

The President has to have a legitimate reason for holding on to the aid. Trump was checking things out and monitoring other UN countries to see what they were going to do.

What card did Zelensky have to pressure Trump?
Trump had the military aid Zelensky desperately needed.......he needed some personal favors first

A Ukrainian investigation of Biden actually hurts Trump, however. Nothing would please President Trump more than if the Democrat Party were to nominate Sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe isn't all there, and President Trump likes competing against the Mentally Deficient.

The last thing Donald J. Trump would want to do is to knock him out of the race.

So why do you think Trump and his goons are fighting to dig dirt against Biden? They even include Hunter as part of the attack. That’s how desperate these corrupted people are.

Why? We know that Biden have a very good chance of dethroning that 11 yo king out of the WH?

 

[charwin95]

his long time lawyer 'splained it perfectly. donny doesn't explicitly say what he wants - but when he does want something, he'll make it clear to you.

And Zelensky knew Trump as well as he did? Zelensky said he felt absolutely no pressure from Trump, but you're going to take his imprisoned lawyers word for it instead. Shokin stated he was indeed on the tail of Burisma, but you're going to take the Democrats word for it that he wasn't.

Seems to me you on the left don't like direct witnesses, You like "he said" "she said" information and base your claims on that. Second hand, third hand, fourth hand information is just fine with you, but direct information is to be ignored and even called unreliable.

LOL

Sure Zelensky is going to provide cover for Trump. He needs US aid. Throwing the president under the bus would mean he has to wait until the next election.

No, I think even Zelensky knew that he could pressure Trump into releasing the money. That's besides the fact it was only held for a few weeks. The arm of the Democrat party--the MSM would have seen to that.

The President has to have a legitimate reason for holding on to the aid. Trump was checking things out and monitoring other UN countries to see what they were going to do.

What card did Zelensky have to pressure Trump?
Trump had the military aid Zelensky desperately needed.......he needed some personal favors first

How did he desperately need it when he didn't even know it was being held up? Of course free money is good money, but remember, Trump provided military aid prior to that unlike Obama.

Dude you don’t know shit.

Every year these countries that receive aids especially military. They look at their calendar each year. They monitor our budget, congress and process. They also have connections like ambassador to get information.

That’s a fact.

 

[Issa]

Speaking 5 languages?
Can you prove with a video where she speaks French, German or Italian....go. She also lied about her college degree.

According to CNN you are wrong, which doesn’t surprise me.

Melania Trump Fast Facts - CNN

Seems you are intimidated by strong women.

As First Lady, Melania travels the world and has had ample opportunity to demonstrate her mastery of languages. Yet, the only video of her speaking in French and Italian shows a rudimentary skill

Hello, my name is Melania, what is your name?
Then, back to English

So CNN is now fake news?

What that has to do with Melania the gold digger nude model lying about speaking French, German and Italian ?

I posted it the reason already, but knowing how difficult it is for you to connect the dots, here is the link again. Melania Trump Fast Facts - CNN

CNN is not Gospel ....Melania made the info available to everyone, and has been lying about things and she got exposed by her own's country's media.
Most right wing media ran with the lie of her speaking 5 languages which has also been debunked.
Why are always butt hurt when the liar in chief and his entourage are exposed....aren't you for the truth?

 

[Papageorgio]

According to CNN you are wrong, which doesn’t surprise me.

Melania Trump Fast Facts - CNN

Seems you are intimidated by strong women.

As First Lady, Melania travels the world and has had ample opportunity to demonstrate her mastery of languages. Yet, the only video of her speaking in French and Italian shows a rudimentary skill

Hello, my name is Melania, what is your name?
Then, back to English

So CNN is now fake news?

What that has to do with Melania the gold digger nude model lying about speaking French, German and Italian ?

I posted it the reason already, but knowing how difficult it is for you to connect the dots, here is the link again. Melania Trump Fast Facts - CNN

CNN is not Gospel ....Melania made the info available to everyone, and has been lying about things and she got exposed by her own's country's media.
Most right wing media ran with the lie of her speaking 5 languages which has also been debunked.
Why are always butt hurt when the liar in chief and his entourage are exposed....aren't you for the truth?

Cite the major news media source that debunked the story? Go ahead post the legit news source, no left wing propaganda site. Go ahead, we are waiting. CNN? NYT? CBS?