In Jerusalem, Israel now.

[Phoenall]

Stolen from other nations and claimed as their own. As your link says inspired by the former Sassanid and Byzantine models ............. and The Dome of the Rock (Qubbat al-Sakhrah) in Jerusalem (691) is one of the most important buildings in all of Islamic architecture. It is patterned after the nearby Church of the Holy Sepulchre[5] and Byzantine Christian artists were employed to create its elaborate mosaics against a gold background.[1][6] The great epigraphic vine frieze was adapted from the pre-Islamic Syrian style.[7] The Dome of the Rock featured interior vaulted spaces, a circular dome, and the use of stylized repeating decorative arabesque patterns.
This
The semicircular arch became a popular feature in Islamic structures. Some suggest the Muslims acquired this from the Visigoths in Spain[8] but they may have obtained it from Syria and Persia where the horseshoe arch had been in use by the Persian and Byzantines as early as the 5th century.[9] After the Moorish invasion of Spain in 711 AD the form was taken by the Umayyads who accentuated the curvature of the horseshoe.[
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The Great Mosque of Damascus (completed in 715 by caliph Al-Walid I),[11] built on the site of the basilica of John the Baptist after the Islamic invasion of Damascus, still bore great resemblance to 6th and 7th century Christian basilicas.

So as I said all stolen from other nations.

And you think that architecture in the UK came from where exactly?

Let me ask you a question... Marble Arch, London... Where was the architectural influence for that design from?

Let me save you the embarrassment of looking it up and making yourself look like a twat...

It came from Rome and Paris...

So, is that ok? Or is that "stolen architecture"?

You are simply a belligerent, racist prick Phoney!

I suppose you will be voting UKIP next month too!

Did I say that Britain did not copy other cultures architecture, no I didn't. But we did have a style all to our own with such structures as Stonehenge and Longbarrows.

The arabs had nothing at all they stole everything from the cultures they destroyed, and they are now destroying those cultures religious symbols.

Now let me ask you a question why are you so arrogant and stupid when it is shown the arab muslims have done nothing to enhance humanity in the 1400 years of their existence.


Depends on if they an offer me something the other parties don't, like a complete ban on all immigration and repatriation and/or deportation for migrants that break the law.

Phoney, Phoney, Phoney, the sheer depth and breadth of your ignorance beggars belief. Stone circles existed everywhere from Egypt and Turkey, to even America, at least 3000 years before Stonehenge was built, barrows were even more common.

As for Arab Muslims, next time you have a glass of beer or wine, thank an Arab Muslim. If you, or someone you know wears glasses, thank an Arab Muslim, next time you switch on a light, thank an Arab Muslim, next time you survive a medical operation, thank an Arab Muslim. Muslims contributed vast amount of ideas and knowledge that helped create the world as it is today.

You are so right Challenger,moreover they invented Universities,Mathmatics,Achemedies Screw before the Greek was born 200 years before.....water viaducts and transportation of such over vast distances,building codes,agriculture and so on....steve

Whoah, let's not get carried away, Universities, Mathematics, etc were around before Islam, however Muslim scholars and scientists managed to recover a lot of ancient knowledge that would have been otherwise lost and built on those foundations by adapting and improving them. Sir Isaac Newton famously said, "If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." European scientists and scholars adopted adapted and improved the work done by their Muslim forebears, that's how science and technology evolves.

Keep trying as the evidence was retrieved by non muslims and then stolen and claimed by the arab muslims, and as the evidence shows they did nothing with the stolen knowledge because they did not have the brain power to use it.

 

[Phoenall]

LINKS

As for beer we had that in Britain since the stone age, so how did arab muslims manage to have a hand in that
Lenses were known about before roman times, so how did arab muslims manage to have a hand in that
So which arab muslim invented the light bulb or electricity
people were surviving operations back in the Iron age so where were the muslims then

The muslim contributed nothing at all, they stole everything and passed it off as Islamic inventions. There is no invention from islam at all, unless you can link to the inventors and their inventions.

Go read a book or two, you are embarassing yourself. I'll give you some clues; it's not about the beer, it's not about the lenses and it's not about the electricity.

It't really all about a religion based on and perpetuated by the promise of those 72 virgins. The only thing that keeps Islam going.

Says the man who knows nothing about Islam, outside of what's written in right-wing hate sites and Fox News.

Take away the promise of virgins and Islam will shrivel and die.

There is no "promise of virgins" in Islam.

Correct the real promise was for 72 Raisins , but the scribe writing it down squashed a fly that marked the paper.

 

[Phoenall]

LINKS

As for beer we had that in Britain since the stone age, so how did arab muslims manage to have a hand in that
Lenses were known about before roman times, so how did arab muslims manage to have a hand in that
So which arab muslim invented the light bulb or electricity
people were surviving operations back in the Iron age so where were the muslims then

The muslim contributed nothing at all, they stole everything and passed it off as Islamic inventions. There is no invention from islam at all, unless you can link to the inventors and their inventions.

Go read a book or two, you are embarassing yourself. I'll give you some clues; it's not about the beer, it's not about the lenses and it's not about the electricity.

It't really all about a religion based on and perpetuated by the promise of those 72 virgins. The only thing that keeps Islam going.

Says the man who knows nothing about Islam, outside of what's written in right-wing hate sites and Fox News.

Why are you an apologist for those who get it so wrong and corrupt the faith?

If you're going to criticise a religion, at least do it the courtesy of learning about it first, that way you look less like a bigoted idiot when you do criticise it.

Talk about being a complete idiot, Aris knows more about islam than the majority of muslims

 

[Challenger]

And you think that architecture in the UK came from where exactly?

Let me ask you a question... Marble Arch, London... Where was the architectural influence for that design from?

Let me save you the embarrassment of looking it up and making yourself look like a twat...

It came from Rome and Paris...

So, is that ok? Or is that "stolen architecture"?

You are simply a belligerent, racist prick Phoney!

I suppose you will be voting UKIP next month too!

Did I say that Britain did not copy other cultures architecture, no I didn't. But we did have a style all to our own with such structures as Stonehenge and Longbarrows.

The arabs had nothing at all they stole everything from the cultures they destroyed, and they are now destroying those cultures religious symbols.

Now let me ask you a question why are you so arrogant and stupid when it is shown the arab muslims have done nothing to enhance humanity in the 1400 years of their existence.


Depends on if they an offer me something the other parties don't, like a complete ban on all immigration and repatriation and/or deportation for migrants that break the law.

Phoney, Phoney, Phoney, the sheer depth and breadth of your ignorance beggars belief. Stone circles existed everywhere from Egypt and Turkey, to even America, at least 3000 years before Stonehenge was built, barrows were even more common.

As for Arab Muslims, next time you have a glass of beer or wine, thank an Arab Muslim. If you, or someone you know wears glasses, thank an Arab Muslim, next time you switch on a light, thank an Arab Muslim, next time you survive a medical operation, thank an Arab Muslim. Muslims contributed vast amount of ideas and knowledge that helped create the world as it is today.

You are so right Challenger,moreover they invented Universities,Mathmatics,Achemedies Screw before the Greek was born 200 years before.....water viaducts and transportation of such over vast distances,building codes,agriculture and so on....steve

Whoah, let's not get carried away, Universities, Mathematics, etc were around before Islam, however Muslim scholars and scientists managed to recover a lot of ancient knowledge that would have been otherwise lost and built on those foundations by adapting and improving them. Sir Isaac Newton famously said, "If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." European scientists and scholars adopted adapted and improved the work done by their Muslim forebears, that's how science and technology evolves.

Keep trying as the evidence was retrieved by non muslims and then stolen and claimed by the arab muslims, and as the evidence shows they did nothing with the stolen knowledge because they did not have the brain power to use it.

 

[Penelope]

Understood. My thread did have something to do with the conflict, but many deflected and did not directly address those points I raised.

When I post my full report, I will post it away from this section, SIR!

As for accusing me of hasbara, you can take your canned response and shove it up your ass.

Their potty mouth has been creeping in as well by the way it sounds.

 

[Phoenall]

Yep, we know, Penelope. A simple-minded person as you are prefers to read the comics. You probably have never sat down with a book in your life except those you were forced to read in school. Penelope probably gives fervent thanks to the Internet for allowing her to drag up articles against the Jews. I wonder if she was one of those who marched in Skokie.

Here one The Jewish Threat by Joseph Bendersky, the Jewish threat was our US Generals. What is sad is that so many were pro Hitler and anti communism, which meant in WWII, anti Jew. Pretty bad to deface the US military, but it never ends. The question to ask, is not if all these intelligent men were racist, but perhaps Hitler was right about the Jewish destroying Germany. This book says more about the Jews than it does our Military Generals.

A pity then that Hitler was a communist isn't it, look at the name of the Nazi party for the clue. They were the National Socialist workers party of Germany, and they made pacts with the Russian communists.

You really are brainwashed with the islamomoron propaganda aren't you

Your History is rather SKEWIFFED Phoney,the Nazis were NOT Communists at all they were NATIONALISTS........they murdered 10's of thousands of Communists.................This must be the MOST EMBARRASSING POST YOU HAVE EVER MADE............The Nazis for you information.......were as FAR RIGHT AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY GO,so much for your exposea.......steve

Try reading the history of the Nazi party and see just how far away from the truth you are. The communists in Russia murdered millions of other communists because they were a different sect. A bit like muslims in that respect who mass murder other muslim sects for the hell of it.

Another screwed up view of history from Phoney...

Which history books do you read?

They aint Islamic or neo Marxist that's for sure

 

[Art__Allm]

Apparently PM Bibi does not want peace, no way no how. If you think they should kiss your feet, I think they still have some pride left.

Neither Bibi, nor other Likundniks (who are the ideological followers of terrorists, like Menachem Begin, whom Einstein called fascists) want peace. They want Eretz Israel, from Nile and Euphrates.

But they understand that they have to sell their land robbery to the gullible people around the world, because Zionists need a positive world opinion and the support of Western governments.

So Zionists use a simple tactic.

They infiltrate and support radical elements among the desperate Palestinians, they provoke small controlled terrorist acts, and then they use these small terrorist acts (that are initiated by some radicals) as pretexts, and after that they kill and destroy 100 more Palestinians and their homes.

Zionists call these overkills "retaliations", and the controlled western media and politicians repeat this nonsense.

There is a big difference between the terrorism of desperate Palestinian radicals and the terrorism of Israel.

The terrorism of Palestinians is not supported by the official representatives of Palestinians, these terrorist acts are usually initiated by desperate Palestinian individuals, who lost their families or properties.
These desperate Palestinians usually kill themselves (because they do no want to live any more, their children or entire families were killed, the property destroyed), and they usually kill a couple of Israelis.

Official representatives of Palestinians always condemn these acts.

But the "retaliations" of Israel are officially supported by the Jewish state, and they are de facto state terrorism.

BTW, the Palestinians, who kill themselves and a couple of Israelis, are usually called "cowards".

But the Israelis, who drop bombs or kill Palestinian children, hiding in armoured vehicles or planes, there is no risk to their own lives, are usually called "heroes" in the controlled Western media.

 

[Phoenall]

Says the man who knows nothing about Islam, outside of what's written in right-wing hate sites and Fox News.

Why are you an apologist for those who get it so wrong and corrupt the faith?

If you're going to criticise a religion, at least do it the courtesy of learning about it first, that way you look less like a bigoted idiot when you do criticise it.

I can't believe you said that. Aris was born and raised in the middle of that religion and is an expert on Islam.

I didn't know I had to publish a resume of studies, work, writings or other interests. Where does it say only experts are allowed to criticism or post? A MSc in Religious Anthropology (OK it was a lifetime ago) is that 'expert' enough to be permitted by squirrel to speak on religion?
What qualifies squirrel to tell anyone if they can or not criticize or post on any subject? Kasparov he is not.

You don't. I don't care what qualifications or expertise you claim to have; it's a fallacy called an agrument or appeal to authority. In an internet forum, everyone can claim to be an emeritus professor in whatever subject they like. I'll be more than satisfied with a well thought out argument backed with sources, something extremely rare on this forum.

Ever thought that that is just how we see you, and why you never put up any well thought out arguments. And you never post sources

 

[Phoenall]

Did I say that Britain did not copy other cultures architecture, no I didn't. But we did have a style all to our own with such structures as Stonehenge and Longbarrows.

The arabs had nothing at all they stole everything from the cultures they destroyed, and they are now destroying those cultures religious symbols.

Now let me ask you a question why are you so arrogant and stupid when it is shown the arab muslims have done nothing to enhance humanity in the 1400 years of their existence.


Depends on if they an offer me something the other parties don't, like a complete ban on all immigration and repatriation and/or deportation for migrants that break the law.

Phoney, Phoney, Phoney, the sheer depth and breadth of your ignorance beggars belief. Stone circles existed everywhere from Egypt and Turkey, to even America, at least 3000 years before Stonehenge was built, barrows were even more common.

As for Arab Muslims, next time you have a glass of beer or wine, thank an Arab Muslim. If you, or someone you know wears glasses, thank an Arab Muslim, next time you switch on a light, thank an Arab Muslim, next time you survive a medical operation, thank an Arab Muslim. Muslims contributed vast amount of ideas and knowledge that helped create the world as it is today.

You are so right Challenger,moreover they invented Universities,Mathmatics,Achemedies Screw before the Greek was born 200 years before.....water viaducts and transportation of such over vast distances,building codes,agriculture and so on....steve

Whoah, let's not get carried away, Universities, Mathematics, etc were around before Islam, however Muslim scholars and scientists managed to recover a lot of ancient knowledge that would have been otherwise lost and built on those foundations by adapting and improving them. Sir Isaac Newton famously said, "If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." European scientists and scholars adopted adapted and improved the work done by their Muslim forebears, that's how science and technology evolves.

Keep trying as the evidence was retrieved by non muslims and then stolen and claimed by the arab muslims, and as the evidence shows they did nothing with the stolen knowledge because they did not have the brain power to use it.

Only if you have a closed mind and refuse to accept new evidence.

 

[Penelope]

Well said, and a lot of what they do (the Israelis IDF and settlers) does not make the news, but we are sure to hear about everything any Palestinians does when they get desperate. Its hard to even trust news from Israel sources anymore.

 

[Art__Allm]

Well said, and a lot of what they do (the Israelis IDF and settlers) does not make the news, but we are sure to hear about everything any Palestinians does when they get desperate. Its hard to even trust news from Israel sources anymore.

Yep, the controlled media gives every detail of killed Israelis, they will show their families, they will tell you about the biography of the killed etc. And they will repeat the stories about the killed Israelis many times, in all media.

The killed Palestinians are usually only numbers without any faces, they are mentioned once, and the media will never condemn Zionists for these acts. The controlled media will usually tell that the killed Palestinians are collateral damage, that Israel has the right to protect its citizens, and that the Palestinian terrorists are responsible for these death, because they use civilians as "shields".

And most brain damaged people even believes this propaganda lies of Zionists and their media.

 

[Humanity]

Here one The Jewish Threat by Joseph Bendersky, the Jewish threat was our US Generals. What is sad is that so many were pro Hitler and anti communism, which meant in WWII, anti Jew. Pretty bad to deface the US military, but it never ends. The question to ask, is not if all these intelligent men were racist, but perhaps Hitler was right about the Jewish destroying Germany. This book says more about the Jews than it does our Military Generals.

A pity then that Hitler was a communist isn't it, look at the name of the Nazi party for the clue. They were the National Socialist workers party of Germany, and they made pacts with the Russian communists.

You really are brainwashed with the islamomoron propaganda aren't you

Your History is rather SKEWIFFED Phoney,the Nazis were NOT Communists at all they were NATIONALISTS........they murdered 10's of thousands of Communists.................This must be the MOST EMBARRASSING POST YOU HAVE EVER MADE............The Nazis for you information.......were as FAR RIGHT AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY GO,so much for your exposea.......steve

Try reading the history of the Nazi party and see just how far away from the truth you are. The communists in Russia murdered millions of other communists because they were a different sect. A bit like muslims in that respect who mass murder other muslim sects for the hell of it.

Another screwed up view of history from Phoney...

Which history books do you read?

They aint Islamic or neo Marxist that's for sure

How about a link for your comment....

"Hitler was a communist"...

Really looking forward to THAT one Phoney!!!

IF you can find one that is!

 

[aris2chat]

Go read a book or two, you are embarassing yourself. I'll give you some clues; it's not about the beer, it's not about the lenses and it's not about the electricity.

It't really all about a religion based on and perpetuated by the promise of those 72 virgins. The only thing that keeps Islam going.

Says the man who knows nothing about Islam, outside of what's written in right-wing hate sites and Fox News.

Take away the promise of virgins and Islam will shrivel and die.

There is no "promise of virgins" in Islam.

Correct the real promise was for 72 Raisins , but the scribe writing it down squashed a fly that marked the paper.

Houri Define Houri at Dictionary.com
Houri - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Houri The Islamic Sex Slave In Paradise EuropeNews
What does houri mean definition and meaning Free English Language Dictionary
Houri - New World Encyclopedia

 

[Art__Allm]

"Hitler was a communist"...

He was a leftists, speak a socialist, a national-socialist.

 

[Hossfly]

Well said, and a lot of what they do (the Israelis IDF and settlers) does not make the news, but we are sure to hear about everything any Palestinians does when they get desperate. Its hard to even trust news from Israel sources anymore.

Yep, the controlled media gives every detail of killed Israelis, they will show their families, they will tell you about the biography of the killed etc. And they will repeat the stories about the killed Israelis many times, in all media.

The killed Palestinians are usually only numbers without any faces, they are mentioned once, and the media will never condemn Zionists for these acts. The controlled media will usually tell that the killed Palestinians are collateral damage, that Israel has the right to protect its citizens, and that the Palestinian terrorists are responsible for these death, because they use civilians as "shields".

And most brain damaged people even believes this propaganda lies of Zionists and their media.

 

[Humanity]

"Hitler was a communist"...

He was a leftists, speak a socialist, a national-socialist.

Yep, and, oddly enough, thats what history tells us...

Oddly enough our Phoney 'friend' seems to think different... Yet another 'Phoney History Lesson'...

So, when Phoney can provide a link that actually supports his comment, hell WILL freeze over!

 

[montelatici]

"Hitler was a communist"...

He was a leftists, speak a socialist, a national-socialist.

National Socialist is a contradiction in terms. There is no such thing. Socialism (and communism) regard nationalism as an evil. Hitler named his party National Socialism in the hope of getting some socialist votes. Hitler adopted Fascism and added a turbo to it. Hitler was as right-wing as you can get.

 

[toastman]

Well said, and a lot of what they do (the Israelis IDF and settlers) does not make the news, but we are sure to hear about everything any Palestinians does when they get desperate. Its hard to even trust news from Israel sources anymore.

Yep, the controlled media gives every detail of killed Israelis, they will show their families, they will tell you about the biography of the killed etc. And they will repeat the stories about the killed Israelis many times, in all media.

The killed Palestinians are usually only numbers without any faces, they are mentioned once, and the media will never condemn Zionists for these acts. The controlled media will usually tell that the killed Palestinians are collateral damage, that Israel has the right to protect its citizens, and that the Palestinian terrorists are responsible for these death, because they use civilians as "shields".

And most brain damaged people even believes this propaganda lies of Zionists and their media.

What are you talking about ? The media always condemns Israel.

 

[montelatici]

Well said, and a lot of what they do (the Israelis IDF and settlers) does not make the news, but we are sure to hear about everything any Palestinians does when they get desperate. Its hard to even trust news from Israel sources anymore.

Yep, the controlled media gives every detail of killed Israelis, they will show their families, they will tell you about the biography of the killed etc. And they will repeat the stories about the killed Israelis many times, in all media.

The killed Palestinians are usually only numbers without any faces, they are mentioned once, and the media will never condemn Zionists for these acts. The controlled media will usually tell that the killed Palestinians are collateral damage, that Israel has the right to protect its citizens, and that the Palestinian terrorists are responsible for these death, because they use civilians as "shields".

And most brain damaged people even believes this propaganda lies of Zionists and their media.

What are you talking about ? The media always condemns Israel.

The western media does not criticize Israel unless the preponderance of the evidence is so overwhelming that it is impossible to do otherwise. Before the UN report came out confirming Israel bombed refugee centers in Gaza, the media gave Israel a pass, for example. They allowed that Israeli spokesman Oren, or whatever his name is, make absurd claims that the Palestinians were the ones that bombed the shelters. Sheesh.

 

[toastman]

Well said, and a lot of what they do (the Israelis IDF and settlers) does not make the news, but we are sure to hear about everything any Palestinians does when they get desperate. Its hard to even trust news from Israel sources anymore.

Yep, the controlled media gives every detail of killed Israelis, they will show their families, they will tell you about the biography of the killed etc. And they will repeat the stories about the killed Israelis many times, in all media.

The killed Palestinians are usually only numbers without any faces, they are mentioned once, and the media will never condemn Zionists for these acts. The controlled media will usually tell that the killed Palestinians are collateral damage, that Israel has the right to protect its citizens, and that the Palestinian terrorists are responsible for these death, because they use civilians as "shields".

And most brain damaged people even believes this propaganda lies of Zionists and their media.

What are you talking about ? The media always condemns Israel.

The western media does not criticize Israel unless the preponderance of the evidence is so overwhelming that it is impossible to do otherwise. Before the UN report came out confirming Israel bombed refugee centers in Gaza, the media gave Israel a pass, for example. They allowed that Israeli spokesman Oren, whatever his name is, make absurd claims that the Palestinians were the ones that bombed the shelters. Sheesh.

Maybe he was referring to a specific incident where Israel was blamed for a Hamas rocket that landed on a shelter and killed Palestinians.