In Jerusalem, Israel now.

[Phoenall]

If you're going to criticise a religion, at least do it the courtesy of learning about it first, that way you look less like a bigoted idiot when you do criticise it.

I can't believe you said that. Aris was born and raised in the middle of that religion and is an expert on Islam.

I didn't know I had to publish a resume of studies, work, writings or other interests. Where does it say only experts are allowed to criticism or post? A MSc in Religious Anthropology (OK it was a lifetime ago) is that 'expert' enough to be permitted by squirrel to speak on religion?
What qualifies squirrel to tell anyone if they can or not criticize or post on any subject? Kasparov he is not.

You don't. I don't care what qualifications or expertise you claim to have; it's a fallacy called an agrument or appeal to authority. In an internet forum, everyone can claim to be an emeritus professor in whatever subject they like. I'll be more than satisfied with a well thought out argument backed with sources, something extremely rare on this forum.

Ever thought that that is just how we see you, and why you never put up any well thought out arguments. And you never post sources

You have just proved me right again by not being able to prove otherwise. You are making your self a laughing stock all the time, you don't come from Sunderland do you ?

 

[aris2chat]

There is no "promise of virgins" in Islam.

Correct the real promise was for 72 Raisins , but the scribe writing it down squashed a fly that marked the paper.

Houri Define Houri at Dictionary.com
Houri - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Houri The Islamic Sex Slave In Paradise EuropeNews
What does houri mean definition and meaning Free English Language Dictionary
Houri - New World Encyclopedia

THIS is supposed to demonstrate your "expertise" in Islam? Two western dictionary mistranslations, a Wikipedia article along with a re-hash of the same Wikipedia article and a blog written by a neo-Nazi on a website created by Muslim apostates in order to encourage other Muslims to leave their faith. Have you even read the Wikipedia article?

Raisins don't have breasts

By any definition, except for one Christian Lebanese translator, Christoph Luxenberg, more than ten years ago who was using an Aramaic quran, Houri refers to a sexual play thing for men, not a plump piece of fruit. Houri might be sweet and juicy but it is not talking of raisins in all the quotations from the quran or hadith.

Now do you really want to argue his qualifications to translate the quran's real meaning of the word? Or where his name originated?

You really want to stick with the raisin theory? How long have you read arabic or the korish dialect? I seriously doubt you are fluent in aramaic either.

You really should not get your 'facts' from rense.

Don't tell me, tell Phoney, HE was the one who came up with the raisins theory. Reading comprehension issues seem to be widespread amongst the Zionuts.

You were the one that did not like the virgin definition of that of the links I posted. Even when the 'raisin' theory came out it was debunked by most islamic scholars.

Other than a tempting sexual reward, what do you expect will be your houri reward in the gardens of allah?

 

[Phoenall]

Correct the real promise was for 72 Raisins , but the scribe writing it down squashed a fly that marked the paper.

Houri Define Houri at Dictionary.com
Houri - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Houri The Islamic Sex Slave In Paradise EuropeNews
What does houri mean definition and meaning Free English Language Dictionary
Houri - New World Encyclopedia

THIS is supposed to demonstrate your "expertise" in Islam? Two western dictionary mistranslations, a Wikipedia article along with a re-hash of the same Wikipedia article and a blog written by a neo-Nazi on a website created by Muslim apostates in order to encourage other Muslims to leave their faith. Have you even read the Wikipedia article?

Raisins don't have breasts

By any definition, except for one Christian Lebanese translator, Christoph Luxenberg, more than ten years ago who was using an Aramaic quran, Houri refers to a sexual play thing for men, not a plump piece of fruit. Houri might be sweet and juicy but it is not talking of raisins in all the quotations from the quran or hadith.

Now do you really want to argue his qualifications to translate the quran's real meaning of the word? Or where his name originated?

You really want to stick with the raisin theory? How long have you read arabic or the korish dialect? I seriously doubt you are fluent in aramaic either.

You really should not get your 'facts' from rense.

Don't tell me, tell Phoney, HE was the one who came up with the raisins theory. Reading comprehension issues seem to be widespread amongst the Zionuts.

You were the one that did not like the virgin definition of that of the links I posted. Even when the 'raisin' theory came out it was debunked by most islamic scholars.

Other than a tempting sexual reward, what do you expect will be your houri reward in the gardens of allah?

I posted the raisin theory as that is what a muslim used as a reason for the 72 virgins. If the enlightened want to read the hadiths they will find the 72 virgins include "doe eyed young boys". And they claim same sex intercourse is haram in islam

 

[Humanity]

Your History is rather SKEWIFFED Phoney,the Nazis were NOT Communists at all they were NATIONALISTS........they murdered 10's of thousands of Communists.................This must be the MOST EMBARRASSING POST YOU HAVE EVER MADE............The Nazis for you information.......were as FAR RIGHT AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY GO,so much for your exposea.......steve

Try reading the history of the Nazi party and see just how far away from the truth you are. The communists in Russia murdered millions of other communists because they were a different sect. A bit like muslims in that respect who mass murder other muslim sects for the hell of it.

Another screwed up view of history from Phoney...

Which history books do you read?

They aint Islamic or neo Marxist that's for sure

How about a link for your comment....

"Hitler was a communist"...

Really looking forward to THAT one Phoney!!!

IF you can find one that is!

The German Workers Party

Nazi Party political party Germany Encyclopedia Britannica

Two very 'informative' links Phoney...

Neither of which make any mention of Hitler being a communist!

Another big "Phat Phoney Phail"...

 

[Phoenall]

Try reading the history of the Nazi party and see just how far away from the truth you are. The communists in Russia murdered millions of other communists because they were a different sect. A bit like muslims in that respect who mass murder other muslim sects for the hell of it.

Another screwed up view of history from Phoney...

Which history books do you read?

They aint Islamic or neo Marxist that's for sure

How about a link for your comment....

"Hitler was a communist"...

Really looking forward to THAT one Phoney!!!

IF you can find one that is!

The German Workers Party

Nazi Party political party Germany Encyclopedia Britannica

Two very 'informative' links Phoney...

Neither of which make any mention of Hitler being a communist!

Another big "Phat Phoney Phail"...

WRONG as it shows that the Nazi party was left wing along the lines of communism, both links show this very clearly.

 

[Humanity]

Another screwed up view of history from Phoney...

Which history books do you read?

They aint Islamic or neo Marxist that's for sure

How about a link for your comment....

"Hitler was a communist"...

Really looking forward to THAT one Phoney!!!

IF you can find one that is!

The German Workers Party

Nazi Party political party Germany Encyclopedia Britannica

Two very 'informative' links Phoney...

Neither of which make any mention of Hitler being a communist!

Another big "Phat Phoney Phail"...

WRONG as it shows that the Nazi party was left wing along the lines of communism, both links show this very clearly.

WRONG, DUMMY!!!

You quite clearly stated... "Hitler was a communist"...

The links you provide do NOT support your claim...

They simply try to deflect from the fact you are an ASS and spew BS all over this forum without knowing what you are saying!

 

[Penelope]

Glad you realize 90% of Jews are not Jews but Zionists, ha ha. One is a religion , the other a political ideology. Even Jesus knew the difference.

Being a Zionist (of any faith) does not negate ones religious beliefs or affiliation. Christian Zionists are still Christians just as Jewish Zionists are still Jewish but thanks for once again exhibiting your drooling hatred.

Most Jews are not Jews as Jew is not a race. Few Jews even practice Judaism, it died out like the language, and now they have to reteach Hebrew, and Israel was set up as a secular state not a religious one.

 

[SAYIT]

Glad you realize 90% of Jews are not Jews but Zionists, ha ha. One is a religion , the other a political ideology. Even Jesus knew the difference.

Being a Zionist (of any faith) does not negate ones religious beliefs or affiliation. Christian Zionists are still Christians just as Jewish Zionists are still Jewish but thanks for once again exhibiting your drooling hatred.

Most Jews are not Jews as Jew is not a race. Few Jews even practice Judaism, it died out like the language, and now they have to reteach Hebrew, and Israel was set up as a secular state not a religious one.

Yanno, for one who has posted reams of stupidity, that post establishes a whole new level of stupidity. Thanks for playing.

 

[Penelope]

Glad you realize 90% of Jews are not Jews but Zionists, ha ha. One is a religion , the other a political ideology. Even Jesus knew the difference.

Being a Zionist (of any faith) does not negate ones religious beliefs or affiliation. Christian Zionists are still Christians just as Jewish Zionists are still Jewish but thanks for once again exhibiting your drooling hatred.

Most Jews are not Jews as Jew is not a race. Few Jews even practice Judaism, it died out like the language, and now they have to reteach Hebrew, and Israel was set up as a secular state not a religious one.

Yanno, for one who has posted reams of stupidity, that post establishes a whole new level of stupidity. Thanks for playing.

I wasn't playing, most jews are secular so they are not jews.

 

[Phoenall]

Glad you realize 90% of Jews are not Jews but Zionists, ha ha. One is a religion , the other a political ideology. Even Jesus knew the difference.

Being a Zionist (of any faith) does not negate ones religious beliefs or affiliation. Christian Zionists are still Christians just as Jewish Zionists are still Jewish but thanks for once again exhibiting your drooling hatred.

Most Jews are not Jews as Jew is not a race. Few Jews even practice Judaism, it died out like the language, and now they have to reteach Hebrew, and Israel was set up as a secular state not a religious one.

Bull crap as the Jews are a race, much to the dismay of the arab muslims who claim that they are related to the Jews. All this because the Jews were singled by International law as being semites and making anti Semitism a racist offence.

 

[Phoenall]

Glad you realize 90% of Jews are not Jews but Zionists, ha ha. One is a religion , the other a political ideology. Even Jesus knew the difference.

Being a Zionist (of any faith) does not negate ones religious beliefs or affiliation. Christian Zionists are still Christians just as Jewish Zionists are still Jewish but thanks for once again exhibiting your drooling hatred.

Most Jews are not Jews as Jew is not a race. Few Jews even practice Judaism, it died out like the language, and now they have to reteach Hebrew, and Israel was set up as a secular state not a religious one.

Yanno, for one who has posted reams of stupidity, that post establishes a whole new level of stupidity. Thanks for playing.

I wasn't playing, most jews are secular so they are not jews.

So which stupid web site did you get it from................

 

[SAYIT]

Glad you realize 90% of Jews are not Jews but Zionists, ha ha. One is a religion , the other a political ideology. Even Jesus knew the difference.

Being a Zionist (of any faith) does not negate ones religious beliefs or affiliation. Christian Zionists are still Christians just as Jewish Zionists are still Jewish but thanks for once again exhibiting your drooling hatred.

Most Jews are not Jews as Jew is not a race. Few Jews even practice Judaism, it died out like the language, and now they have to reteach Hebrew, and Israel was set up as a secular state not a religious one.

Bull crap as the Jews are a race, much to the dismay of the arab muslims who claim that they are related to the Jews. All this because the Jews were singled by International law as being semites and making anti Semitism a racist offence.

I don't know where to start. Jews, as already explained, are not a race and while the term "anti-Semitism" is indeed defined as "prejudice or hatred toward Jews," there is no international law establishing Jews as Semites or making anti-Semitism a racist offense.

 

[aris2chat]

Houri Define Houri at Dictionary.com
Houri - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Houri The Islamic Sex Slave In Paradise EuropeNews
What does houri mean definition and meaning Free English Language Dictionary
Houri - New World Encyclopedia

THIS is supposed to demonstrate your "expertise" in Islam? Two western dictionary mistranslations, a Wikipedia article along with a re-hash of the same Wikipedia article and a blog written by a neo-Nazi on a website created by Muslim apostates in order to encourage other Muslims to leave their faith. Have you even read the Wikipedia article?

Raisins don't have breasts

By any definition, except for one Christian Lebanese translator, Christoph Luxenberg, more than ten years ago who was using an Aramaic quran, Houri refers to a sexual play thing for men, not a plump piece of fruit. Houri might be sweet and juicy but it is not talking of raisins in all the quotations from the quran or hadith.

Now do you really want to argue his qualifications to translate the quran's real meaning of the word? Or where his name originated?

You really want to stick with the raisin theory? How long have you read arabic or the korish dialect? I seriously doubt you are fluent in aramaic either.

You really should not get your 'facts' from rense.

Don't tell me, tell Phoney, HE was the one who came up with the raisins theory. Reading comprehension issues seem to be widespread amongst the Zionuts.

You were the one that did not like the virgin definition of that of the links I posted. Even when the 'raisin' theory came out it was debunked by most islamic scholars.

Other than a tempting sexual reward, what do you expect will be your houri reward in the gardens of allah?

I posted the raisin theory as that is what a muslim used as a reason for the 72 virgins. If the enlightened want to read the hadiths they will find the 72 virgins include "doe eyed young boys". And they claim same sex intercourse is haram in islam

Despite what fundamentalists claim, there is a long history of homosexuality in the muslim world. Famous literature and poets were bisexual or homosexual. Boys and castrated men were used. Some just gelded and some completely castrated. served a number of uses.

 

[Humanity]

THIS is supposed to demonstrate your "expertise" in Islam? Two western dictionary mistranslations, a Wikipedia article along with a re-hash of the same Wikipedia article and a blog written by a neo-Nazi on a website created by Muslim apostates in order to encourage other Muslims to leave their faith. Have you even read the Wikipedia article?

Raisins don't have breasts

By any definition, except for one Christian Lebanese translator, Christoph Luxenberg, more than ten years ago who was using an Aramaic quran, Houri refers to a sexual play thing for men, not a plump piece of fruit. Houri might be sweet and juicy but it is not talking of raisins in all the quotations from the quran or hadith.

Now do you really want to argue his qualifications to translate the quran's real meaning of the word? Or where his name originated?

You really want to stick with the raisin theory? How long have you read arabic or the korish dialect? I seriously doubt you are fluent in aramaic either.

You really should not get your 'facts' from rense.

Don't tell me, tell Phoney, HE was the one who came up with the raisins theory. Reading comprehension issues seem to be widespread amongst the Zionuts.

You were the one that did not like the virgin definition of that of the links I posted. Even when the 'raisin' theory came out it was debunked by most islamic scholars.

Other than a tempting sexual reward, what do you expect will be your houri reward in the gardens of allah?

I posted the raisin theory as that is what a muslim used as a reason for the 72 virgins. If the enlightened want to read the hadiths they will find the 72 virgins include "doe eyed young boys". And they claim same sex intercourse is haram in islam

Despite what fundamentalists claim, there is a long history of homosexuality in the muslim world. Famous literature and poets were bisexual or homosexual. Boys and castrated men were used. Some just gelded and some completely castrated. served a number of uses.

Is there not a long history of homosexuality in the world in general NOT just Muslim world?

 

[Phoenall]

Raisins don't have breasts

By any definition, except for one Christian Lebanese translator, Christoph Luxenberg, more than ten years ago who was using an Aramaic quran, Houri refers to a sexual play thing for men, not a plump piece of fruit. Houri might be sweet and juicy but it is not talking of raisins in all the quotations from the quran or hadith.

Now do you really want to argue his qualifications to translate the quran's real meaning of the word? Or where his name originated?

You really want to stick with the raisin theory? How long have you read arabic or the korish dialect? I seriously doubt you are fluent in aramaic either.

You really should not get your 'facts' from rense.

Don't tell me, tell Phoney, HE was the one who came up with the raisins theory. Reading comprehension issues seem to be widespread amongst the Zionuts.

You were the one that did not like the virgin definition of that of the links I posted. Even when the 'raisin' theory came out it was debunked by most islamic scholars.

Other than a tempting sexual reward, what do you expect will be your houri reward in the gardens of allah?

I posted the raisin theory as that is what a muslim used as a reason for the 72 virgins. If the enlightened want to read the hadiths they will find the 72 virgins include "doe eyed young boys". And they claim same sex intercourse is haram in islam

Despite what fundamentalists claim, there is a long history of homosexuality in the muslim world. Famous literature and poets were bisexual or homosexual. Boys and castrated men were used. Some just gelded and some completely castrated. served a number of uses.

Is there not a long history of homosexuality in the world in general NOT just Muslim world?

It is the hypocrisy and double standards at work in the Islamic world. They play on words to hide the truth, about the only thing they are masters of

 

[theliq]

"Hitler was a communist"...

He was a leftists, speak a socialist, a national-socialist.

National Socialist is a contradiction in terms. There is no such thing. Socialism (and communism) regard nationalism as an evil. Hitler named his party National Socialism in the hope of getting some socialist votes. Hitler adopted Fascism and added a turbo to it. Hitler was as right-wing as you can get.

You don't know what you are rambling on about. Most communists are really nationalists as they put their national pride above all else. Just as Russia had athletics breeding farms and other sports academies so they would always be better than the capitalists of America.

NATIONALIST ARE NOT COMMUNISTS...Stop this BANALITY NOW.......

 

[theliq]

Apparently PM Bibi does not want peace, no way no how. If you think they should kiss your feet, I think they still have some pride left.

Neither Bibi, nor other Likundniks (who are the ideological followers of terrorists, like Menachem Begin, whom Einstein called fascists) want peace. They want Eretz Israel, from Nile and Euphrates.

But they understand that they have to sell their land robbery to the gullible people around the world, because Zionists need a positive world opinion and the support of Western governments.

So Zionists use a simple tactic.

They infiltrate and support radical elements among the desperate Palestinians, they provoke small controlled terrorist acts, and then they use these small terrorist acts (that are initiated by some radicals) as pretexts, and after that they kill and destroy 100 more Palestinians and their homes.

Zionists call these overkills "retaliations", and the controlled western media and politicians repeat this nonsense.

There is a big difference between the terrorism of desperate Palestinian radicals and the terrorism of Israel.

The terrorism of Palestinians is not supported by the official representatives of Palestinians, these terrorist acts are usually initiated by desperate Palestinian individuals, who lost their families or properties.
These desperate Palestinians usually kill themselves (because they do no want to live any more, their children or entire families were killed, the property destroyed), and they usually kill a couple of Israelis.

Official representatives of Palestinians always condemn these acts.

But the "retaliations" of Israel are officially supported by the Jewish state, and they are de facto state terrorism.

BTW, the Palestinians, who kill themselves and a couple of Israelis, are usually called "cowards".

But the Israelis, who drop bombs or kill Palestinian children, hiding in armoured vehicles or planes, there is no risk to their own lives, are usually called "heroes" in the controlled Western media.

As I have been saying too,ZIONISTS are the scum of the Earth.....but other Jews and secular Jews fine

You cant be a Jew without being a Zionist. it is like saying you can be a Shi'ite without being a muslim.

You Moron,complete Moron.....Zionists are Terrorists and only been in existence for circa 114 years........you need to be accurate in your posts,theking aka theliq

 

[Phoenall]

"Hitler was a communist"...

He was a leftists, speak a socialist, a national-socialist.

National Socialist is a contradiction in terms. There is no such thing. Socialism (and communism) regard nationalism as an evil. Hitler named his party National Socialism in the hope of getting some socialist votes. Hitler adopted Fascism and added a turbo to it. Hitler was as right-wing as you can get.

You don't know what you are rambling on about. Most communists are really nationalists as they put their national pride above all else. Just as Russia had athletics breeding farms and other sports academies so they would always be better than the capitalists of America.

NATIONALIST ARE NOT COMMUNISTS...Stop this BANALITY NOW.......

Instead of shouting why don't you try proving that the NASDAP was not communist. In case you don't know NASDAP is the Nazi party of Germany. The National Socialist workers party

 

[Phoenall]

Apparently PM Bibi does not want peace, no way no how. If you think they should kiss your feet, I think they still have some pride left.

Neither Bibi, nor other Likundniks (who are the ideological followers of terrorists, like Menachem Begin, whom Einstein called fascists) want peace. They want Eretz Israel, from Nile and Euphrates.

But they understand that they have to sell their land robbery to the gullible people around the world, because Zionists need a positive world opinion and the support of Western governments.

So Zionists use a simple tactic.

They infiltrate and support radical elements among the desperate Palestinians, they provoke small controlled terrorist acts, and then they use these small terrorist acts (that are initiated by some radicals) as pretexts, and after that they kill and destroy 100 more Palestinians and their homes.

Zionists call these overkills "retaliations", and the controlled western media and politicians repeat this nonsense.

There is a big difference between the terrorism of desperate Palestinian radicals and the terrorism of Israel.

The terrorism of Palestinians is not supported by the official representatives of Palestinians, these terrorist acts are usually initiated by desperate Palestinian individuals, who lost their families or properties.
These desperate Palestinians usually kill themselves (because they do no want to live any more, their children or entire families were killed, the property destroyed), and they usually kill a couple of Israelis.

Official representatives of Palestinians always condemn these acts.

But the "retaliations" of Israel are officially supported by the Jewish state, and they are de facto state terrorism.

BTW, the Palestinians, who kill themselves and a couple of Israelis, are usually called "cowards".

But the Israelis, who drop bombs or kill Palestinian children, hiding in armoured vehicles or planes, there is no risk to their own lives, are usually called "heroes" in the controlled Western media.

As I have been saying too,ZIONISTS are the scum of the Earth.....but other Jews and secular Jews fine

You cant be a Jew without being a Zionist. it is like saying you can be a Shi'ite without being a muslim.

You Moron,complete Moron.....Zionists are Terrorists and only been in existence for circa 114 years........you need to be accurate in your posts,theking aka theliq

Zionism has been around for over 2000 years, longer than islam has been in existence. It was not named as such until 1870's when the political movement was started. The real terrorists are the Shi'ites and Sunni's who have murdered between them over 100 million since islam was invented in 625 C.E.

 

[Humanity]

"Hitler was a communist"...

He was a leftists, speak a socialist, a national-socialist.

National Socialist is a contradiction in terms. There is no such thing. Socialism (and communism) regard nationalism as an evil. Hitler named his party National Socialism in the hope of getting some socialist votes. Hitler adopted Fascism and added a turbo to it. Hitler was as right-wing as you can get.

You don't know what you are rambling on about. Most communists are really nationalists as they put their national pride above all else. Just as Russia had athletics breeding farms and other sports academies so they would always be better than the capitalists of America.

NATIONALIST ARE NOT COMMUNISTS...Stop this BANALITY NOW.......

Instead of shouting why don't you try proving that the NASDAP was not communist. In case you don't know NASDAP is the Nazi party of Germany. The National Socialist workers party

Phoney you have failed to prove that NASDAP was communist...

So, go look at the links YOU posted to see that the Nazi party was NOT communist!