Impeachment Does Not Require a Crime

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This again!!!!!!?!?!

Impeachment must never occur on an opinion. NEVER. This is what happened here. We agree there was a phone call. The phone call transcript was released. Aid to Ukraine was released. Zelensky said he did not feel pressured. Burisma situation is at best questionable in terms of how Hunter got that gig. But in the end we are all speculating and guessing when it comes to Trump’s intent.

The politicians have wasted our money by this bullshit process and people like IM2 racist, do not that the intelligence or education to see that.

People need to wake up.

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Lindsey Graham

And of course Senate Republicans will ensure that honor and integrity will not be restored to the office of president.

That task will be left to the voters this November by voting Trump out of office.

 

[Siete]

the country needs evidence the Right doesnt have their head up Trumps fat ass-

Do you have the 51 votes for removal yet?

days later and still triggered ?

you need meds and fast.

if only I had known you were so fragile -

 

[JLW]

Does it require evidence?

No. It just requires an accusation by a lying, anti-American, butt-hurt liberal.

Along with the cooperation by a Criminal In Charge and his merry band of Criminals.

What crime has he been charged with?

No crime is necessary. Read post #6.

To be a criminal, you need a crime.

Learn to read simple English, Moron.

Can't you read you friggin moron. I can count on you with a knee jerk reaction. Just like a Trumper who thinks with his ass and not his brains. Do some research. Stop getting your friggin opinions from Fox News and think for yourself. I know its a hard thing to do.

 

[Desperado]

Does it require evidence?

Ok so according to the Demorats; Impeachment does not require a crime and since there is no crime it does not require any evidence. Just the fact that the accused hurt someone's feelings is enough.

 

[Nostra]

the country needs evidence the Right doesnt have their head up Trumps fat ass-

Do you have the 51 votes for removal yet?

days later and still triggered ?

you need meds and fast.

if only I had known you were so fragile -

Triggered? I’m having a blast mocking your idiocy.

 

[JLW]

the country needs evidence the Right doesnt have their head up Trumps fat ass-

Do you have the 51 votes for removal yet?

days later and still triggered ?

you need meds and fast.

if only I had known you were so fragile -

Ain't that the truth. The nut is knee jerk fool. Thinks he knows more than anybody else. Just like his savior, the Orange one.

 

[Nostra]

No. It just requires an accusation by a lying, anti-American, butt-hurt liberal.

Along with the cooperation by a Criminal In Charge and his merry band of Criminals.

What crime has he been charged with?

No crime is necessary. Read post #6.

To be a criminal, you need a crime.

Learn to read simple English, Moron.

Can't you read you friggin moron. I can count on you with a knee jerk reaction. Just like a Trumper who thinks with his ass and not his brains. Do some research. Stop getting your friggin opinions from Fox News and think for yourself. I know its a hard thing to do.

Fox has nothing to do with Daryl Hunt’s lies, Moron.

Learn to read.

 

[Nostra]

Does it require evidence?

Ok so according to the Demorats; Impeachment does not require a crime and since there is no crime it does not require any evidence. Just the fact that the accused hurt someone's feelings is enough.

See the red in my sig...

 

[SmokeALib]

This again!!!!!!?!?!

Impeachment must never occur on an opinion. NEVER. This is what happened here. We agree there was a phone call. The phone call transcript was released. Aid to Ukraine was released. Zelensky said he did not feel pressured. Burisma situation is at best questionable in terms of how Hunter got that gig. But in the end we are all speculating and guessing when it comes to Trump’s intent.

The politicians have wasted our money by this bullshit process and people like IM2 racist, do not that the intelligence or education to see that.

People need to wake up.

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

Lindsey Graham

And of course Senate Republicans will ensure that honor and integrity will not be restored to the office of president.

That task will be left to the voters this November by voting Trump out of office.

In your Marxist dreams...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The title speaks for itself. Abuse of power is an impeachable offense. trumps impeachment is constitutionally correct.

Presidential Impeachment: The Legal Standard and Procedure - FindLaw

Then, you will have no problem with impeachment proceedings against the next Democrat to hold the office starting within hours of his inauguration?

Since the Republican Senate will acquit Trump, the next president will be immune from impeachment for abuse of power because the Senate said abuse power is not impeachable. Nor will the next president be held accountable as he can give the middle finger to Congressional subpoenas. This is the new reality you all have created.

True.

At least as far as the president of the United States is concerned, Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution is null and void.

For a third time Senate Republicans will fail to obey the Framers’ intent with regard to impeachment, reaffirming a dangerous precedent, and codifying the Imperial Presidency.

 

[JLW]

The title speaks for itself. Abuse of power is an impeachable offense. trumps impeachment is constitutionally correct.

Presidential Impeachment: The Legal Standard and Procedure - FindLaw

Then, you will have no problem with impeachment proceedings against the next Democrat to hold the office starting within hours of his inauguration?

Since the Republican Senate will acquit Trump, the next president will be immune from impeachment for abuse of power because the Senate said abuse power is not impeachable. Nor will the next president be held accountable as he can give the middle finger to Congressional subpoenas. This is the new reality you all have created.

True.

At least as far as the president of the United States is concerned, Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution is null and void.

For a third time Senate Republicans will fail to obey the Framers’ intent with regard to impeachment, reaffirming a dangerous precedent, and codifying the Imperial Presidency.

The Republic is headed the way of the Roman Republic when the Senate and the people really just didn't care anymore. The impeachment article and Congressional oversight is headed for the trash heap.

 

[Siete]

over 70% of registered voters want to hear witnesses - so lets swear them in and get evidence

 

[Auld Phart]

The title speaks for itself. Abuse of power is an impeachable offense. trumps impeachment is constitutionally correct.

Presidential Impeachment: The Legal Standard and Procedure - FindLaw

Then, you will have no problem with impeachment proceedings against the next Democrat to hold the office starting within hours of his inauguration?

Hmm. I don't remember the House bringing up impeachment right after Trump was elected. Probably because Republicans controlled the House. Sure you always had the fringe on the Dem party side calling for that...but Nancy was there to squash them...even after the Russia investigation concluded, Nancy said no. Until Trump just couldn't stop his inner stupid from coming out and she had no choice.

So if any future Dem President solicits a foreign power to intervene in our election on their behalf, yep, I'm up for the same treatment. But it has to rise to the level of what Trump did (and we know he'll be acquitted), not the eight years of crap the Republicans threw against the wall when Obama was president.

are you claiming some representatives haven't been pushing for his impeachment since he took office?

Rep. Green says impeachment began when Trump "was running for office"

 

[JLW]

The title speaks for itself. Abuse of power is an impeachable offense. trumps impeachment is constitutionally correct.

Presidential Impeachment: The Legal Standard and Procedure - FindLaw

Then, you will have no problem with impeachment proceedings against the next Democrat to hold the office starting within hours of his inauguration?

Hmm. I don't remember the House bringing up impeachment right after Trump was elected. Probably because Republicans controlled the House. Sure you always had the fringe on the Dem party side calling for that...but Nancy was there to squash them...even after the Russia investigation concluded, Nancy said no. Until Trump just couldn't stop his inner stupid from coming out and she had no choice.

So if any future Dem President solicits a foreign power to intervene in our election on their behalf, yep, I'm up for the same treatment. But it has to rise to the level of what Trump did (and we know he'll be acquitted), not the eight years of crap the Republicans threw against the wall when Obama was president.

are you claiming some representatives haven't been pushing for his impeachment since he took office?

Rep. Green says impeachment began when Trump "was running for office"

So are you saying Trump can commit any violation of the Constitution or commit every crime because one guy said something stupid?

 

[Auld Phart]

the country needs evidence the Right doesnt have their head up Trumps fat ass-

Do you have the 51 votes for removal yet?

Do you have the 51 votes for removal yet?

Takes 67

 

[Auld Phart]

The title speaks for itself. Abuse of power is an impeachable offense. trumps impeachment is constitutionally correct.

Presidential Impeachment: The Legal Standard and Procedure - FindLaw

Then, you will have no problem with impeachment proceedings against the next Democrat to hold the office starting within hours of his inauguration?

Hmm. I don't remember the House bringing up impeachment right after Trump was elected. Probably because Republicans controlled the House. Sure you always had the fringe on the Dem party side calling for that...but Nancy was there to squash them...even after the Russia investigation concluded, Nancy said no. Until Trump just couldn't stop his inner stupid from coming out and she had no choice.

So if any future Dem President solicits a foreign power to intervene in our election on their behalf, yep, I'm up for the same treatment. But it has to rise to the level of what Trump did (and we know he'll be acquitted), not the eight years of crap the Republicans threw against the wall when Obama was president.

are you claiming some representatives haven't been pushing for his impeachment since he took office?

Rep. Green says impeachment began when Trump "was running for office"

So are you saying Trump can commit any violation of the Constitution or commit every crime because one guy said something stupid?

No

I'm saying, and backing it up, that some have been pushing to remove Trump from office since he took it.

 

[JLW]

The title speaks for itself. Abuse of power is an impeachable offense. trumps impeachment is constitutionally correct.

Presidential Impeachment: The Legal Standard and Procedure - FindLaw

Then, you will have no problem with impeachment proceedings against the next Democrat to hold the office starting within hours of his inauguration?

Hmm. I don't remember the House bringing up impeachment right after Trump was elected. Probably because Republicans controlled the House. Sure you always had the fringe on the Dem party side calling for that...but Nancy was there to squash them...even after the Russia investigation concluded, Nancy said no. Until Trump just couldn't stop his inner stupid from coming out and she had no choice.

So if any future Dem President solicits a foreign power to intervene in our election on their behalf, yep, I'm up for the same treatment. But it has to rise to the level of what Trump did (and we know he'll be acquitted), not the eight years of crap the Republicans threw against the wall when Obama was president.

are you claiming some representatives haven't been pushing for his impeachment since he took office?

Rep. Green says impeachment began when Trump "was running for office"

So are you saying Trump can commit any violation of the Constitution or commit every crime because one guy said something stupid?

No

I'm saying, and backing it up, that some have been pushing to remove Trump from office since he took it.

There were some stupid remarks made by Democrats early on, I will give you that.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

The title speaks for itself. Abuse of power is an impeachable offense. trumps impeachment is constitutionally correct.

Presidential Impeachment: The Legal Standard and Procedure - FindLaw

Then, you will have no problem with impeachment proceedings against the next Democrat to hold the office starting within hours of his inauguration?

Hmm. I don't remember the House bringing up impeachment right after Trump was elected. Probably because Republicans controlled the House. Sure you always had the fringe on the Dem party side calling for that...but Nancy was there to squash them...even after the Russia investigation concluded, Nancy said no. Until Trump just couldn't stop his inner stupid from coming out and she had no choice.

So if any future Dem President solicits a foreign power to intervene in our election on their behalf, yep, I'm up for the same treatment. But it has to rise to the level of what Trump did (and we know he'll be acquitted), not the eight years of crap the Republicans threw against the wall when Obama was president.

are you claiming some representatives haven't been pushing for his impeachment since he took office?

Rep. Green says impeachment began when Trump "was running for office"

Of course. Rep. Green (and others) fit the "fringe" on the Democratic party side I was talking about. By no means a majority. And there was Nancy to squash it.

 

[hadit]

I agree with the OP ... the House can impeach, and Senate remove from office, for any reason they want to ... it's one of the "checks and balances" built into our constitution ...

My reasoning is that this is a strictly political process, not a judicial one ... to my knowledge, there has never be a case of removal from office accepted by the Federal District Courts ... however, my knowledge is quite limited, so if someone has a reference to an actual court case accepted, I'd be more than happy to read it; and if true, rescind my claims in this post ...

No evidence, no proof, no nothing ... just 2/3's the Senate is all ...

You will notice the Rumpsters are a bit quiet right now. Their Handlers are all in the crap houses confurring on their computers trying to come up with a response that won't quite sound as fruitcakey. Of course, they won't come up with anything so they will just come up with something stupid. But it'll take then a bit to dome up with it.

It it could just be that it's Sunday and many set aside politics for more serious pursuits.

 

[ReinyDays]

Since the Republican Senate will acquit Trump, the next president will be immune from impeachment for abuse of power because the Senate said abuse power is not impeachable. Nor will the next president be held accountable as he can give the middle finger to Congressional subpoenas. This is the new reality you all have created.

You're confusing judicial procedures with congressional procedures again ... the Senate cannot unilaterally amend the constitution ... the House, and the House alone, impeaches ... the Senate has no say there ...