Impeachment Does Not Require a Crime

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    Does it require evidence?
     
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    You are flailing.

    YOUR House Clown’s farce has already been destroyed in under 2 hours.

    Buckle up for Monday’s beatdown, Buttercup.
     
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    Not to IQ2.
     
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    Trump is guilty of...

    ORANGE MAN BAD!!!
     
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    Impeachment does not require a crime and Hamilton said as much.

    See: Op-Ed: Alexander Hamilton would have led the charge to oust Donald Trump

    ‘Trumpers will get their way and Trump will be exonerated.

    ‘But when the next president debases the constitution and abuses his office like Trump, they can look back today who they supported.

    Unlike Trumpers if the next president is a democrat and acts like Trump and debases the constitution and abuses his office just like Trump, I will not be a good cultist like the Trumpist, but will stand up for what is right.

    Going on the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors:

    ’The convention adopted “high crimes and misdemeanors” with little discussion. Most of the framers knew the phrase well. Since 1386, the English parliament had used “high crimes and misdemeanors” as one of the grounds to impeach officials of the crown. Officials accused of “high crimes and misdemeanors” were accused of offenses as varied as misappropriating government funds, appointing unfit subordinates, not prosecuting cases, not spending money allocated by Parliament, promoting themselves ahead of more deserving candidates, threatening a grand jury, disobeying an order from Parliament, arresting a man to keep him from running for Parliament, losing a ship by neglecting to moor it, helping “suppress petitions to the King to call a Parliament,” granting warrants without cause, and bribery. Some of these charges were crimes. Others were not. The one common denominator in all these accusations was that the official had somehow abused the power of his office and was unfit to serve.“

    https://www.crf-usa.org/impeachment/high-crimes-and-misdemeanors.htm

    Abuse of power , among other offense, were considered as impeachable.

    The Trumpers puts Trump before the constitution like Putin is above his constitution. Two peas in a pod.
     
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    Every President since Thomas Jefferson should have been impeached then...

    Abuse of Power is common and you condone it as long as a Democrat does it...

    But

    The one they are truly focus on is Obstruction of Congress which will be tossed because you can not be guilty of that until the Democrats exhausted the Courts which they did not...

    So both the Abuse and Obstruction will be tossed..
     
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    Evidence? Definitely yes IMHO. Impeachment is a big deal, I don't see how you can impeach a president without solid evidence to backup your allegations. More than presumptions, interpretations, and personal guesses.

    As for a crime being necessary? I think if you can't prove a crime then the wrong-doing better be really egregious, above and beyond what other presidents have done. And I'm not seeing that in Trump's case, even if he did break the law according to the GAO, other presidents have done the same thing. To me, the Articles of Impeachment against Trump do not rise to the level where impeachment is appropriate.
     
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    This again!!!!!!?!?!

    Impeachment must never occur on an opinion. NEVER. This is what happened here. We agree there was a phone call. The phone call transcript was released. Aid to Ukraine was released. Zelensky said he did not feel pressured. Burisma situation is at best questionable in terms of how Hunter got that gig. But in the end we are all speculating and guessing when it comes to Trump’s intent.

    The politicians have wasted our money by this bullshit process and people like IM2 racist, do not that the intelligence or education to see that.

    People need to wake up.
     
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