I'm Gonna Buy My Bottle Tomorrow For My Toast When They Slam The Door On Obamacare

[mudwhistle]

Hell.....with his......



.....followed by, 8 years, for Bill & Hill......

....you Teabaggers might (actually) learn something about politics.

So any one who disagrees with your god barry is a tea bagger?

How come the only people here who use terms like that for our President are far righties?

What, you don't act like he walks on water?

You never question his fabrications, so you must think he's God.

Only a zealout acts that way, and your God is presently Barack Obama.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Perhaps your 22 year old should move out of the basement and get a job. Then he could buy some health insurance like the rest of us.

i.e. your employer is baby-sitting you, and providing you with health-insurance....and, you're STUCK, there (now)....an insurance-junkie....and, management knows that as-well-as you do.

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The Union negotiated health insurance for hourly employees and the corporation had to provide it for we salaried geeks as well. Do you hate unions?

I just get a little tired o' hearing people (with employer-provided health-insurance) insisting they're paying for their (own) health-insurance. Most people, like that, have NO IDEA what they're (actually) paying. They surely do find-out, when they get laid-off!! That's when they become Librul-socialists....when they start talkin'-about how expensive health-insurance has gotten.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Hell.....with his......



.....followed by, 8 years, for Bill & Hill......

....you Teabaggers might (actually) learn something about politics.

So any one who disagrees with your god barry is a tea bagger?

How come the only people here who use terms like that for our President are far righties?

Jealousy.

Think-about-it.......

 

[Mr. Shaman]

So any one who disagrees with your god barry is a tea bagger?

How come the only people here who use terms like that for our President are far righties?

What, you don't act like he walks on water?

You never question his fabrications, so you must think he's God.

Only a zealout acts that way, and your God is presently Barack Obama.

Yeah, bodecea.....it's jealousy, alright.​

 

[logical4u]

So any one who disagrees with your god barry is a tea bagger?

How come the only people here who use terms like that for our President are far righties?

What, you don't act like he walks on water?

You never question his fabrications, so you must think he's God.

Only a zealout acts that way, and your God is presently Barack Obama.

I think he is more in the class of Jim Jones or Charles Manson

 

[BlindBoo]

Just to be clear on the Mandate.

The "individual mandate," which requires virtually all Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a fine, was the brainchild of conservative economists and embraced by some of the nation's most prominent Republicans for nearly two decades. Yet today, many of those champions -- including presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich -- are among the mandate's most vocal critics.

Meanwhile, even as Democratic stalwarts warmed to the idea in recent years, one of the last holdouts was the man whose political fate is now most closely intertwined with the mandate: Obama.

"The ironies to this story are endless and everywhere," said John McDonough, a professor at the Harvard University School of Public Health who, as a Senate Democratic staffer, played a key role in drafting the law.

The tale begins in the late 1980s, when conservative economists such as Mark Pauly, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business, were searching for ways to counter liberal calls for government-sponsored universal health coverage.

"We wanted to find an alternative that was more consistent with market-oriented economic ideas and would involve less government intervention," Pauly said.

His solution: a system of tax credits to ensure that all Americans could purchase at least bare-bones "catastrophic" coverage.

Pauly then proposed a mandate requiring everyone to obtain this minimum coverage, thus guarding against "free riders": people who refuse to buy insurance and then, in a crisis, receive care whose costs are absorbed by hospitals, the government and other consumers.

Heath-policy analysts at the conservative Heritage Foundation, led by Stuart Butler, picked up the idea and began developing it for lawmakers in Congress.

By 1993, when President Bill Clinton was readying his major health-care overhaul bill, the Heritage approach -- subsidizing and facilitating the purchase of private health plans, while using the individual mandate to maximize participation -- had gelled as the natural Republican alternative.

Read more: Health mandate was originally a Republican idea

My favorite part of the hearings is when Scallia said basically "Why not Let them die" when talking about how to pay for uninsured visits to ER across the country. What a guy!

Oh and don't count your chickens until the eggs have hatched.

That's what the President gets for adopting a Repubican idea.

 

[francoHFW]

The dupes are dead set against reform, but obviously have no clue what's in it, like Pelosi said (of course they have THAT all wrong too). Stupidest voters in the modern world.
We'll see what Kennedy says, ya brainwashed fools- the four bought off RW hyenas were never in doubt.
Just remember, your lack of compassion for the 45k dead per year will be remembered, and not just by good citizens. Enjoy Hell! lol

 

[8537]

Just to be clear on the Mandate.

The "individual mandate," which requires virtually all Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a fine, was the brainchild of conservative economists and embraced by some of the nation's most prominent Republicans for nearly two decades. Yet today, many of those champions -- including presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich -- are among the mandate's most vocal critics.

Meanwhile, even as Democratic stalwarts warmed to the idea in recent years, one of the last holdouts was the man whose political fate is now most closely intertwined with the mandate: Obama.

"The ironies to this story are endless and everywhere," said John McDonough, a professor at the Harvard University School of Public Health who, as a Senate Democratic staffer, played a key role in drafting the law.

The tale begins in the late 1980s, when conservative economists such as Mark Pauly, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business, were searching for ways to counter liberal calls for government-sponsored universal health coverage.

"We wanted to find an alternative that was more consistent with market-oriented economic ideas and would involve less government intervention," Pauly said.

His solution: a system of tax credits to ensure that all Americans could purchase at least bare-bones "catastrophic" coverage.

Pauly then proposed a mandate requiring everyone to obtain this minimum coverage, thus guarding against "free riders": people who refuse to buy insurance and then, in a crisis, receive care whose costs are absorbed by hospitals, the government and other consumers.

Heath-policy analysts at the conservative Heritage Foundation, led by Stuart Butler, picked up the idea and began developing it for lawmakers in Congress.

By 1993, when President Bill Clinton was readying his major health-care overhaul bill, the Heritage approach -- subsidizing and facilitating the purchase of private health plans, while using the individual mandate to maximize participation -- had gelled as the natural Republican alternative.

Read more: Health mandate was originally a Republican idea

My favorite part of the hearings is when Scallia said basically "Why not Let them die" when talking about how to pay for uninsured visits to ER across the country. What a guy!

Oh and don't count your chickens until the eggs have hatched.

That's what the President gets for adopting a Repubican idea.

The individual mandate and Cap & Trade: Two smart Republican ideas that have been tossed under the bus in the name of ALEC.

 

[mudwhistle]

Just to be clear on the Mandate.

The "individual mandate," which requires virtually all Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a fine, was the brainchild of conservative economists and embraced by some of the nation's most prominent Republicans for nearly two decades. Yet today, many of those champions -- including presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich -- are among the mandate's most vocal critics.

Meanwhile, even as Democratic stalwarts warmed to the idea in recent years, one of the last holdouts was the man whose political fate is now most closely intertwined with the mandate: Obama.

"The ironies to this story are endless and everywhere," said John McDonough, a professor at the Harvard University School of Public Health who, as a Senate Democratic staffer, played a key role in drafting the law.

The tale begins in the late 1980s, when conservative economists such as Mark Pauly, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business, were searching for ways to counter liberal calls for government-sponsored universal health coverage.

"We wanted to find an alternative that was more consistent with market-oriented economic ideas and would involve less government intervention," Pauly said.

His solution: a system of tax credits to ensure that all Americans could purchase at least bare-bones "catastrophic" coverage.

Pauly then proposed a mandate requiring everyone to obtain this minimum coverage, thus guarding against "free riders": people who refuse to buy insurance and then, in a crisis, receive care whose costs are absorbed by hospitals, the government and other consumers.

Heath-policy analysts at the conservative Heritage Foundation, led by Stuart Butler, picked up the idea and began developing it for lawmakers in Congress.

By 1993, when President Bill Clinton was readying his major health-care overhaul bill, the Heritage approach -- subsidizing and facilitating the purchase of private health plans, while using the individual mandate to maximize participation -- had gelled as the natural Republican alternative.

Read more: Health mandate was originally a Republican idea

My favorite part of the hearings is when Scallia said basically "Why not Let them die" when talking about how to pay for uninsured visits to ER across the country. What a guy!

Oh and don't count your chickens until the eggs have hatched.

That's what the President gets for adopting a Repubican idea.

The individual mandate and Cap & Trade: Two smart Republican ideas that have been tossed under the bus in the name of ALEC.

RLMFAO!!!!!!!!

I know......the Dems inherited it.

 

[Dr.House]

Hope you get cancer and they kick you off, moron dupe. LOL

You're a dick.


Karma, asshole.

You gotta love when the "compassionate left" gets on a roll....

 

[BlindBoo]

Just to be clear on the Mandate.

The "individual mandate," which requires virtually all Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a fine, was the brainchild of conservative economists and embraced by some of the nation's most prominent Republicans for nearly two decades. Yet today, many of those champions -- including presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich -- are among the mandate's most vocal critics.

Meanwhile, even as Democratic stalwarts warmed to the idea in recent years, one of the last holdouts was the man whose political fate is now most closely intertwined with the mandate: Obama.

"The ironies to this story are endless and everywhere," said John McDonough, a professor at the Harvard University School of Public Health who, as a Senate Democratic staffer, played a key role in drafting the law.

The tale begins in the late 1980s, when conservative economists such as Mark Pauly, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business, were searching for ways to counter liberal calls for government-sponsored universal health coverage.

"We wanted to find an alternative that was more consistent with market-oriented economic ideas and would involve less government intervention," Pauly said.

His solution: a system of tax credits to ensure that all Americans could purchase at least bare-bones "catastrophic" coverage.

Pauly then proposed a mandate requiring everyone to obtain this minimum coverage, thus guarding against "free riders": people who refuse to buy insurance and then, in a crisis, receive care whose costs are absorbed by hospitals, the government and other consumers.

Heath-policy analysts at the conservative Heritage Foundation, led by Stuart Butler, picked up the idea and began developing it for lawmakers in Congress.

By 1993, when President Bill Clinton was readying his major health-care overhaul bill, the Heritage approach -- subsidizing and facilitating the purchase of private health plans, while using the individual mandate to maximize participation -- had gelled as the natural Republican alternative.

Read more: Health mandate was originally a Republican idea

My favorite part of the hearings is when Scallia said basically "Why not Let them die" when talking about how to pay for uninsured visits to ER across the country. What a guy!

Oh and don't count your chickens until the eggs have hatched.

That's what the President gets for adopting a Repubican idea.

The individual mandate and Cap & Trade: Two smart Republican ideas that have been tossed under the bus in the name of ALEC.

RLMFAO!!!!!!!!

I know......the Dems inherited it.

Newt Sure Loved the Health-Care Mandate in 2005

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Just to be clear on the Mandate.

The "individual mandate," which requires virtually all Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a fine, was the brainchild of conservative economists and embraced by some of the nation's most prominent Republicans for nearly two decades. Yet today, many of those champions -- including presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich -- are among the mandate's most vocal critics.

Meanwhile, even as Democratic stalwarts warmed to the idea in recent years, one of the last holdouts was the man whose political fate is now most closely intertwined with the mandate: Obama.

"The ironies to this story are endless and everywhere," said John McDonough, a professor at the Harvard University School of Public Health who, as a Senate Democratic staffer, played a key role in drafting the law.

The tale begins in the late 1980s, when conservative economists such as Mark Pauly, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business, were searching for ways to counter liberal calls for government-sponsored universal health coverage.

"We wanted to find an alternative that was more consistent with market-oriented economic ideas and would involve less government intervention," Pauly said.

His solution: a system of tax credits to ensure that all Americans could purchase at least bare-bones "catastrophic" coverage.

Pauly then proposed a mandate requiring everyone to obtain this minimum coverage, thus guarding against "free riders": people who refuse to buy insurance and then, in a crisis, receive care whose costs are absorbed by hospitals, the government and other consumers.

Heath-policy analysts at the conservative Heritage Foundation, led by Stuart Butler, picked up the idea and began developing it for lawmakers in Congress.

By 1993, when President Bill Clinton was readying his major health-care overhaul bill, the Heritage approach -- subsidizing and facilitating the purchase of private health plans, while using the individual mandate to maximize participation -- had gelled as the natural Republican alternative.

Read more: Health mandate was originally a Republican idea

My favorite part of the hearings is when Scallia said basically "Why not Let them die" when talking about how to pay for uninsured visits to ER across the country. What a guy!

Oh and don't count your chickens until the eggs have hatched.

That's what the President gets for adopting a Repubican idea.

The individual mandate and Cap & Trade: Two smart Republican ideas that have been tossed under the bus in the name of ALEC.

RLMFAO!!!!!!!!

I know......the Dems inherited it.

Tell me you haven't heard about....

....Romneycare.

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.....And, how could we POSSIBLY forget......​

August 2009

The Political History Of
Cap And Trade​

"How an unlikely mix of environmentalists and free-market conservatives hammered out the strategy known as cap-and-trade."

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RLMFAO!!!!!!!!​

 

[mudwhistle]

The individual mandate and Cap & Trade: Two smart Republican ideas that have been tossed under the bus in the name of ALEC.

RLMFAO!!!!!!!!

I know......the Dems inherited it.

Newt Sure Loved the Health-Care Mandate in 2005

I've got news for you......the mandate isn't the most objectionable part of the bill.

Just saying.

 

[sealybobo]

The dupes are dead set against reform, but obviously have no clue what's in it, like Pelosi said (of course they have THAT all wrong too). Stupidest voters in the modern world.
We'll see what Kennedy says, ya brainwashed fools- the four bought off RW hyenas were never in doubt.
Just remember, your lack of compassion for the 45k dead per year will be remembered, and not just by good citizens. Enjoy Hell! lol

This will help you argue with these idiots

Here’s why health insurance is not like broccoli | The Great Debate

Referring to the recent Supreme Court arguments: If the government can require people to buy health insurance, why couldn’t it require people to buy broccoli, which also enhances people’s health?

First, as George H.W. Bush made quite clear, you need never eat broccoli. But unless you are a hermit in Alaska, you will use healthcare at some point in your life. Today, it is estimated that the uninsured use more than $116 billion in healthcare services each year.

While it is feasible that you may never be engaged in the broccoli market, at some point, everyone – including the uninsured – will be engaged in the healthcare market.

And unlike broccoli, when some people don’t participate in the health insurance market, the costs is shoved onto the rest of us through higher insurance premiums or taxes that hospitals, insurers and doctors must charge to recoup the costs of uncompensated care.

Justices Scalia and Alito seemed not to appreciate this crucial difference between health insurance and broccoli. Justice Scalia said: “If I don’t buy a Volt, I raise the price of Volts.” WRONG! If people aren't buying Volts, the price iwill go down, not up. Is he stupid or playing dumb?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

RLMFAO!!!!!!!!

I know......the Dems inherited it.

Newt Sure Loved the Health-Care Mandate in 2005

I've got news for you......the mandate isn't the most objectionable part of the bill.

Just saying.

August 2009

The Political History Of
Cap And Trade​

"How an unlikely mix of environmentalists and free-market conservatives hammered out the strategy known as cap-and-trade."

.

.

.

.

.

RLMFAO!!!!!!!!

Just saying!​

 

[The T]

RLMFAO!!!!!!!!

I know......the Dems inherited it.

Newt Sure Loved the Health-Care Mandate in 2005

I've got news for you......the mandate isn't the most objectionable part of the bill.

Just saying.

One of the biggest is IPAB.

 

[asaratis]

really?

it's cute for someone who has no kids to be happy that when my son turns 22 he'll be uninsured instead of being insured til he's 26.

Is the grown man unable to support himself?

We'll see what Kennedy says, morons. Guess you guys don't care about 45k dead and 750k bankruptcies/year, spiraling rises with no controls, ruining our competitiveness. Enjoy Hell, stupid brainwashed dupes...

I guess you don't care about that pesky old Constitution, do you?

You stupid brainwashed dope!

 

[asaratis]

The dupes are dead set against reform, but obviously have no clue what's in it, like Pelosi said (of course they have THAT all wrong too). Stupidest voters in the modern world.
We'll see what Kennedy says, ya brainwashed fools- the four bought off RW hyenas were never in doubt.
Just remember, your lack of compassion for the 45k dead per year will be remembered, and not just by good citizens. Enjoy Hell! lol

This will help you argue with these idiots

Here’s why health insurance is not like broccoli | The Great Debate

Referring to the recent Supreme Court arguments: If the government can require people to buy health insurance, why couldn’t it require people to buy broccoli, which also enhances people’s health?

First, as George H.W. Bush made quite clear, you need never eat broccoli. But unless you are a hermit in Alaska, you will use healthcare at some point in your life. Today, it is estimated that the uninsured use more than $116 billion in healthcare services each year.

While it is feasible that you may never be engaged in the broccoli market, at some point, everyone – including the uninsured – will be engaged in the healthcare market.

And unlike broccoli, when some people don’t participate in the health insurance market, the costs is shoved onto the rest of us through higher insurance premiums or taxes that hospitals, insurers and doctors must charge to recoup the costs of uncompensated care.

Justices Scalia and Alito seemed not to appreciate this crucial difference between health insurance and broccoli. Justice Scalia said: “If I don’t buy a Volt, I raise the price of Volts.” WRONG! If people aren't buying Volts, the price iwill go down, not up. Is he stupid or playing dumb?

The government does not have the right to require a citizen to buy anything....and don't come back with that lame "driver's license/hunting license" crap. You are not forced to drive on public roads(requiring a license) and you are not forced to hunt.

 

[hjmick]

I will toast Obama and the end of his presidency (may it come speedily in our days) with this appropriate bottle:

Is that stuff kosher?




Try VooDoo American Stout from the Left Coast Brewing Company...

 

[g5000]

First, as George H.W. Bush made quite clear, you need never eat broccoli. But unless you are a hermit in Alaska, you will use healthcare at some point in your life. Today, it is estimated that the uninsured use more than $116 billion in healthcare services each year.

I love how in one second the uninsured are the poor and neglected who can't get insurance, so we need to create a giant healthcare bill to cover them, but then the next second they are willfully uninsured and we must FORCE them to get insurance because they are a drain on the rest of us.

And then one second later, they are not a drain on our resources but actually a cash cow which must be used to counter the cost of forcing insurance companies to add people with pre-existing conditions to the risk pool. Which is the real reason the willfully uninsured are being forced to buy insurance. Not because they are some future burden, but because they are an untapped cash cow whose money will be spend on others today.

Talk about smoke and mirrors!

This is Shell #1 of the confidence trick.