If Romney doesn't win, what's next for the GOP?

[JakeStarkey]

Your wrong, WT: go back to Newt Gingrich and the 1990~~they were GOP ideas.

Yeah, the democrats were real open to input with Obamacare. Sheesh, some of you guys are so dishonest.

They were. Mandate.....GOP idea.....Buying across state lines....GOP idea.....Tort reform......GOP idea.....giving up on the public option.....GOP DEMAND.

That's just off the top of my head

No! that's something you've just pulled out of your ass.

 

[Steelplate]

Yeah, the democrats were real open to input with Obamacare. Sheesh, some of you guys are so dishonest.

They were. Mandate.....GOP idea.....Buying across state lines....GOP idea.....Tort reform......GOP idea.....giving up on the public option.....GOP DEMAND.

That's just off the top of my head

No! that's something you've just pulled out of your ass.

No.....you are just a senile bitch who gets her history from Fox.

 

[WillowTree]

They were. Mandate.....GOP idea.....Buying across state lines....GOP idea.....Tort reform......GOP idea.....giving up on the public option.....GOP DEMAND.

That's just off the top of my head

No! that's something you've just pulled out of your ass.

No.....you are just a senile bitch who gets her history from Fox.

Ha ha loser can you feel it slipping away?

 

[Steelplate]

No! that's something you've just pulled out of your ass.

No.....you are just a senile bitch who gets her history from Fox.

Ha ha loser can you feel it slipping away?

only a fool would feel confident in a race this close.

 

[MarcATL]

As a lapsed Republican I have pretty much given up on the GOP.

If getting beaten by an incredibly shallow and incompetent disaster like Obama doesn't wake Republicans up to what an unmitigated disaster they themselves have become, nothing will, and my only hope is that a third major party is born. One made up of sane people.

I am seriously depressed and angry at just how batshit insane the right has become.


You know what's funny, though? I was talking to my mother on the phone the other day. Just for a little background, she was our state's chairman of the ACU during the Reagan years. If you don't know what the ACU is, you aren't a conservative, you're a dipshit.

Anyway, as most of you know by now, I am in favor of gays being allowed to file a federal married tax return and to collect Social Security death benefits and all that stuff. In short, I am "pro gay marriage".

As my parents are old school conservative, even more paleo-conservative than me, I have been withholding my position on gay marriage from my parents out of respect for them. My dad has poor health and I was seriously concerned if he found out where I stood on the issue, it would kill him.

Well, the other day my mother starting going off about how batshit crazy the right has become.

Whaaaaaaaaat?

And somehow during the conversation she revealed she was pro gay marriage!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT???

I could not believe it. This was a HUGE load off my chest.

And she fricking HATES Romney. And Mitch McConnell.

We have fought for years over all kinds of things, and then to suddenly discover how synched we were on these particular things was mind-boggling.


So maybe there is a ray of hope for the right, after all.


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Republicans & other assorted conservatives have an opportunity like you will never have again for decades. To send a message to your hard RW party to change their ways. If you keep voting for them as "against" the other guy you will keep getting the same and worse.

I hope you people have made the right decision today.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Never mind the GOP, just keep in mind what Bill Maher told us, "If you're thinking about voting for Mitt Romney, I would like to make this one plea. Black people know who you are and they will come after you,"Hmm, did Oblamer tell him to say that, or was it just willy's idea?

 

[Mustang]

They could open up a bait shop.

 

[PredFan]

If Romney doesn't win it wont matter one whit what's next for the GOP, it's the end of this country and there will be no fixing it after that. Not even the Libertarian Party will be able to fix it if Obama gets 4 more years.

 

[candycorn]

If Mitt Romney doesn't win (and how big an if that is, is certainly open for interpretation) how does the GOP react?

From Inaguration Day until today, Republicans have done absolutely everything within their power to guarantee that Obama is a one term president. They've denied every bit of encouraging economic news; they've pooh-poohed the justice inflicted on Bin Laden; they've phoned-in 247 fillabusters in the Senate to grind government to a halt; they empowered a radical fringe group to question citizenship, religion, etc, and now that radical fringe group is biting them in the butt; and they even nominated a candidate even they didn't like because they thought he would be the most likely to beat Obama.

They've pulled every procedural and public relations gambit they could dream up in order to attack non-stop.

So what do they do if all that doesn't work?

Will they give statesmanship and leadership another chance to win back former-Republicans like myself who detest what they've turned themselves into? Or would admitting a mistake be too humiliating? Do they double-down on the snarling, sputtering, tantrums?

The party has to come to grips with a black man as President and he isn't going anywhere. I think now that defeating him is off the "to do list", they'll start working with the President until 2014 or so. After that, it's all 2016 all the time.

When we get to that point, there are only two ways for a GOP candidate to win. Keep in mind this is 4 years out....

1). Run a candidate that breaks up the bi-coastal lock the DNC has; a popular candidate from NY or CA (Christie Perhaps)? Rubio should be able to carry FL on his own but the GOP starts from so far behind it needs to do something to mitigate the hole.

2). Run a candidate that doesn't have to pivot to the right so vividly as Romney needed to do in 2012. When they start trying to moderate their views, they leave themselves open to the etch-a-sketch argument.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I don't understand how anyone could think the GOP losing the WH, but gaining in Both Houses means they need to change the way they have been doing things in the Congress.

Seems to me that it means they need to stop nominating wishy-washy moderates as Presidential candidates...which, for the record, is something I have been saying for a while! Every wishy-washy moderate they have nominated has gotten pasted...Bush Sr. in 1992 (he won in 1988 because he was viewed-incorrectly-as Reagan's "third term"...and because he was running against Mike Dukakis), Dole in 1996, McCain in 2008, and now Romney, who it is looking like has just managed to lose to the second coming of Jimmy Carter.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I can tell you one thing for sure if Obama wins.

All the Romney piss drinkers we have seen over the past few months will be, "It wasn't me! I hated Romney! Wasn't me!" There will be a stampede for the exits from the Romney tent.

I know of NOBODY actually enthusiastic about Romney. Even his supporters are not voting for him as much as against Obama.

 

[Jarlaxle]

If Romney doesn't win.. Hmmm. I've always told my GOP buds they should lay down, use the force of the opponent to their advantage and let the Class Warfare/Redistributionist Revolution roll..

Four more years of UNimpeded Progressive Revolution would KILL the Dem party deader than Osama.

Give 'em EVERYTHING they want. That's how you obliterate the opposition...

Problem is --- the Rep party is too stupid to do anything that strategically brilliant..

MORE stimulus -- MORE windmills --- MORE taxes in a stagnant economy. MORE -- fake job fixes. MORE -- stealing from Soc Sec.
Wouldn't even need to raise funds for 2014 or 2016.. The white flag would be out. You just go out and take prisoners.

The problem with that being: you end up with more people feeding at the trough...and they, of course, then vote to keep the slops coming.

 

[Samson]

I think the OP is forgetting that even if Romney loses it is looking pretty likely the GOP will gain seats in Both Houses of Congress. That is hardly a Repudiation of them Blocking Obama in the Congress, It's a vote for them to continue.

If Obama wins and the GOP gains seats in Both Houses of Congress it will be a clear Vote by the American People for Divided Government. The Message to Obama will be clear, You get your 4 more years, but you better be willing to REALLY compromise this time and move you ass back to the Center, Unless you want to be a lame duck President for at least 2 years.

The GOP definition for "really compromise" has been - "Do it our way as if we had won."
So let me get this straight. You're spin is that by re-electing Obama, Americans would be signalling that they don't want him to pursue his agenda anymore?

And the GOP - after having shot every bullet they could to defeat Obama and failing - would read the message as "America wants you to keep doing what you're doing"?

I wouldn't say the Dem definition for "really compromise" has been anything vastly different.

However, I would agree with you that the GOP needs some introspection, even if Romney wins. They are clearly way the fuck off base in their rejection of pro choice. They are also ridiculously devoted to absurd military spending.

 

[flacaltenn]

If Romney doesn't win.. Hmmm. I've always told my GOP buds they should lay down, use the force of the opponent to their advantage and let the Class Warfare/Redistributionist Revolution roll..

Four more years of UNimpeded Progressive Revolution would KILL the Dem party deader than Osama.

Give 'em EVERYTHING they want. That's how you obliterate the opposition...

Problem is --- the Rep party is too stupid to do anything that strategically brilliant..

MORE stimulus -- MORE windmills --- MORE taxes in a stagnant economy. MORE -- fake job fixes. MORE -- stealing from Soc Sec.
Wouldn't even need to raise funds for 2014 or 2016.. The white flag would be out. You just go out and take prisoners.

The problem with that being: you end up with more people feeding at the trough...and they, of course, then vote to keep the slops coming.

Hang on man -- it doesn't QUITE lead to that.. You see when the credit rating slips and the free lunches RUN OUT -- most Socialists countries bring in the Conservatives to clean up for a decade.. If you TRUST your political principles and instincts, you know that EVEN IF you temporarily have a food feast going on -- the party is not gonna last too long.

Especially with the debt crisis, the soc sec/Medicare crisis and the natural contraction of jobs crisis ALL coming very soon..

 

[Shelzin]

I think the OP is forgetting that even if Romney loses it is looking pretty likely the GOP will gain seats in Both Houses of Congress. That is hardly a Repudiation of them Blocking Obama in the Congress, It's a vote for them to continue.

If Obama wins and the GOP gains seats in Both Houses of Congress it will be a clear Vote by the American People for Divided Government. The Message to Obama will be clear, You get your 4 more years, but you better be willing to REALLY compromise this time and move you ass back to the Center, Unless you want to be a lame duck President for at least 2 years.

I think that's the best scenario that could happen outside of a republican or democrat not being president. At this moment in time anyway.

 

[GHook93]

If Mitt Romney doesn't win (and how big an if that is, is certainly open for interpretation) how does the GOP react?

From Inaguration Day until today, Republicans have done absolutely everything within their power to guarantee that Obama is a one term president. They've denied every bit of encouraging economic news; they've pooh-poohed the justice inflicted on Bin Laden; they've phoned-in 247 fillabusters in the Senate to grind government to a halt; they empowered a radical fringe group to question citizenship, religion, etc, and now that radical fringe group is biting them in the butt; and they even nominated a candidate even they didn't like because they thought he would be the most likely to beat Obama.

They've pulled every procedural and public relations gambit they could dream up in order to attack non-stop.

So what do they do if all that doesn't work?

Will they give statesmanship and leadership another chance to win back former-Republicans like myself who detest what they've turned themselves into? Or would admitting a mistake be too humiliating? Do they double-down on the snarling, sputtering, tantrums?

As a right leaner, if Romney loses its extinction for the GOP. Obama will push through the Dream Act via executive order, get more people reliant on the government and push more class warfare, that way he can flood red states with newly made Democrats in TX, AZ, OK etc making them less red and the swing states of FL, VA firmly blue!

 

[RDD_1210]

If Mitt Romney doesn't win (and how big an if that is, is certainly open for interpretation) how does the GOP react?

From Inaguration Day until today, Republicans have done absolutely everything within their power to guarantee that Obama is a one term president. They've denied every bit of encouraging economic news; they've pooh-poohed the justice inflicted on Bin Laden; they've phoned-in 247 fillabusters in the Senate to grind government to a halt; they empowered a radical fringe group to question citizenship, religion, etc, and now that radical fringe group is biting them in the butt; and they even nominated a candidate even they didn't like because they thought he would be the most likely to beat Obama.

They've pulled every procedural and public relations gambit they could dream up in order to attack non-stop.

So what do they do if all that doesn't work?

Will they give statesmanship and leadership another chance to win back former-Republicans like myself who detest what they've turned themselves into? Or would admitting a mistake be too humiliating? Do they double-down on the snarling, sputtering, tantrums?

As a right leaner, if Romney loses its extinction for the GOP. Obama will push through the Dream Act via executive order, get more people reliant on the government and push more class warfare, that way he can flood red states with newly made Democrats in TX, AZ, OK etc making them less red and the swing states of FL, VA firmly blue!

Enjoy your last day of posting on this site. Bon Voyage!

 

[Charles_Main]

If Mitt Romney doesn't win (and how big an if that is, is certainly open for interpretation) how does the GOP react?

I think they have no choice but to Cooperate with Obama in Immigration Reform. Gaining Favor with the Latino Vote seems to be their Most Viable Option to catch up to the Dems.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The GOP gives in on immigration reform and defense reduction in return for tax cuts extensions.

 

[WillowTree]

The GOP gives in on immigration reform and defense reduction in return for tax cuts extensions.

that's just what this country needs, 100,000 more teachers, 8 million more illiterate illegals and a weak assed military. good damn thinking.