Are you a Trump loyalist? However remote the possibility, try, even if for a moment, to consider these things:

[Rumpole]

Over the years, I have witnessed a phenomenon occurring primarily on the right, that many of those on the right, which has burgeoned since Trump (though it has been going on for much longer than that), that their minds have become a bucket of mush filled with thought-terminating clichés ("TDS" "deep state" "fake news" "commies" "leftists" etc) and tired right wing tropes which are engineered to curb critical thinking and kill dissent, with the specific purpose of making the base compliant, complicit, and complacent.

As a man of 72 years, I've heard similar tropes going back to the days of the John Birch Society in the 60s. Their radical views were tolerated by the conservative leaders, but they gradually took things too far and William F Buckley, the granddad of conservatism during those years, as the founding member of the National Review, pushed the group to the sidelines. Once Buckley passed, the right no longer had a filter, and the group morphed into the T party, then the Freedom caucus, and now they are the MAGA movement, and in Trump, they have found their champion Trump, slightly older than myself, must be acutely aware of the history of the GOP, and how to manipulate their flock, and he easily took over the party, he knew the tropes they wanted to hear.

Make no mistake, Trump does not believe a word of what he says, he knows the types of right wing thought-terminating clichés will control his fock, and controlling his base is all he is interested in. In fact, Trump has changed parties no less than 6 times. During his Celeb Apprentice days, he was a democrat, we have videos of him praising democrats during this time, and this is because he knew that celebs are mostly liberal, and naturally he was a dem to curry favor with celebs. But to run for president, he knew the right would be much more receptive to a billionaire, so suddenly, he is now a 'Republican'. The point is, he is whatever the situation demands, he has no core values, he is the quintessential opportunist, the word's greatest conman, and PT Barnum would have loved him, and WC Field's famous quote, "You can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool some of the people some of the time, and........it's just enough to make a good living".

Ask yourself: Why does a billionaire solicit donations? Well, for a conman, if one can, then, why not?

THere is a reason Trump is under attack. It's not because of blind hatred. It's because we, on the left, are not infected by Trump, he has chosen your side so it is much easier for us to see right through his methods. He's using all the same tricks every demagogue in history has used, and it's so obvious I wish I could get on the roofs across the land and shout it, but the right's minds are closed, Trump has successfully mesmerized millions, and they are compliant, complicit, and complacent, it's as if it were right out of an Orwellian script. We loath Trump BECAUSE he doesn't have your interest in mind, only that of Trump, and we don't want such a man ever to have his finger on the nuke football, if you don't mind. This isn't blind, this is well reasoned, well thought out and well understood.

Our intentions are just, and for the national interest. Trump is a threat to US National Security, and he must be stopped by any legal means possible. It is sad that many on the right cannot see it, but there it is. But some sensible souls on the right are with us, such as the good folks over at the Lincoln Project. Read Rick Wilson's book, 'Everything Trump Touches, Dies'. Listen to the videos of Steve Schmidt, another co-founder of the Lincoln Project. it is their goal to resuscitate the GOP to it's original conservative traditions and roots, and Trump has taken it astray, and they know, as we know, he is taking the GOP right over a proverbial cliff. His movement will be disastrous, should Trump win a second term. His only motivation now, is not policies for the good of our country, his motivation is REVENGE, and only revenge, and that is the wrong reason to be president.

Once the MAGA cultist's brain is infected, it appears that for most, there is no escape, resistance, it seems, for many, is futile. They have been programed, via months and months of repetition and propagandistic oratory and TV punditry by Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Mark Levin et al., causing the MAGA base to hate the left and accuse the left of that which they are complicit, which IS the intent of the program by their right wing controllers, who do not have their (or your) best interests in mind, only that of Trump and his ilk. These facts are coming to light in the Dominion law suit. Fox pundits have knowingly been going along with the scheme and have been intentionally lying to their base. However, Fox will not report on the Dominion law suit, but you will find all about it on YouTube.

Some have made it out, but few are so able.

If you haven't, try and escape, you'll be glad you did.

Cheers,
Rumpole.

 

[Hossfly]

MAGA, y'all.

 

[Vrenn]

Over the years, I have witnessed a phenomenon occurring primarily on the right, that many of those on the right, which has burgeoned since Trump (though it has been going on for much longer than that), that their minds have become a bucket of mush filled with thought-terminating clichés ("TDS" "deep state" "fake news" "commies" "leftists" etc) and tired right wing tropes which are engineered to curb critical thinking and kill dissent, with the specific purpose of making the base compliant, complicit, and complacent.

As a man of 72 years, I've heard similar tropes going back to the days of the John Birch Society in the 60s. Their radical views were tolerated by the conservative leaders, but they gradually took things too far and William F Buckley, the granddad of conservatism during those years, as the founding member of the National Review, pushed the group to the sidelines. Once Buckley passed, the right no longer had a filter, and the group morphed into the T party, then the Freedom caucus, and now they are the MAGA movement, and in Trump, they have found their champion Trump, slightly older than myself, must be acutely aware of the history of the GOP, and how to manipulate their flock, and he easily took over the party, he knew the tropes they wanted to hear.

Make no mistake, Trump does not believe a word of what he says, he knows the types of right wing thought-terminating clichés will control his fock, and controlling his base is all he is interested in. In fact, Trump has changed parties no less than 6 times. During his Celeb Apprentice days, he was a democrat, we have videos of him praising democrats during this time, and this is because he knew that celebs are mostly liberal, and naturally he was a dem to curry favor with celebs. But to run for president, he knew the right would be much more receptive to a billionaire, so suddenly, he is now a 'Republican'. The point is, he is whatever the situation demands, he has no core values, he is the quintessential opportunist, the word's greatest conman, and PT Barnum would have loved him, and WC Field's famous quote, "You can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool some of the people some of the time, and........it's just enough to make a good living".

Ask yourself: Why does a billionaire solicit donations? Well, for a conman, if one can, then, why not?

THere is a reason Trump is under attack. It's not because of blind hatred. It's because we, on the left, are not infected by Trump, he has chosen your side so it is much easier for us to see right through his methods. He's using all the same tricks every demagogue in history has used, and it's so obvious I wish I could get on the roofs across the land and shout it, but the right's minds are closed, Trump has successfully mesmerized millions, and they are compliant, complicit, and complacent, it's as if it were right out of an Orwellian script. We loath Trump BECAUSE he doesn't have your interest in mind, only that of Trump, and we don't want such a man ever to have his finger on the nuke football, if you don't mind. This isn't blind, this is well reasoned, well thought out and well understood.

Our intentions are just, and for the national interest. Trump is a threat to US National Security, and he must be stopped by any legal means possible. It is sad that many on the right cannot see it, but there it is. But some sensible souls on the right are with us, such as the good folks over at the Lincoln Project. Read Rick Wilson's book, 'Everything Trump Touches, Dies'. Listen to the videos of Steve Schmidt, another co-founder of the Lincoln Project. it is their goal to resuscitate the GOP to it's original conservative traditions and roots, and Trump has taken it astray, and they know, as we know, he is taking the GOP right over a proverbial cliff. His movement will be disastrous, should Trump win a second term. His only motivation now, is not policies for the good of our country, his motivation is REVENGE, and only revenge, and that is the wrong reason to be president.

Once the MAGA cultist's brain is infected, it appears that for most, there is no escape, resistance, it seems, for many, is futile. They have been programed, via months and months of repetition and propagandistic oratory and TV punditry by Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Mark Levin et al., causing the MAGA base to hate the left and accuse the left of that which they are complicit, which IS the intent of the program by their right wing controllers, who do not have their (or your) best interests in mind, only that of Trump and his ilk. These facts are coming to light in the Dominion law suit. Fox pundits have knowingly been going along with the scheme and have been intentionally lying to their base. However, Fox will not report on the Dominion law suit, but you will find all about it on YouTube.

Some have made it out, but few are so able.

If you haven't, try and escape, you'll be glad you did.

Cheers,
Rumpole.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

One think that I have noticed about Rumpole[stiltskin] is that he writes an extraordinary number of words, to say very, very little of any actual meaning.

 

[fncceo]

Tl;dr

 

[Mac1958]

Over the years, I have witnessed a phenomenon occurring primarily on the right, that many of those on the right, which has burgeoned since Trump (though it has been going on for much longer than that), that their minds have become a bucket of mush filled with thought-terminating clichés ("TDS" "deep state" "fake news" "commies" "leftists" etc) and tired right wing tropes which are engineered to curb critical thinking and kill dissent, with the specific purpose of making the base compliant, complicit, and complacent.

As a man of 72 years, I've heard similar tropes going back to the days of the John Birch Society in the 60s. Their radical views were tolerated by the conservative leaders, but they gradually took things too far and William F Buckley, the granddad of conservatism during those years, as the founding member of the National Review, pushed the group to the sidelines. Once Buckley passed, the right no longer had a filter, and the group morphed into the T party, then the Freedom caucus, and now they are the MAGA movement, and in Trump, they have found their champion Trump, slightly older than myself, must be acutely aware of the history of the GOP, and how to manipulate their flock, and he easily took over the party, he knew the tropes they wanted to hear.

Make no mistake, Trump does not believe a word of what he says, he knows the types of right wing thought-terminating clichés will control his fock, and controlling his base is all he is interested in. In fact, Trump has changed parties no less than 6 times. During his Celeb Apprentice days, he was a democrat, we have videos of him praising democrats during this time, and this is because he knew that celebs are mostly liberal, and naturally he was a dem to curry favor with celebs. But to run for president, he knew the right would be much more receptive to a billionaire, so suddenly, he is now a 'Republican'. The point is, he is whatever the situation demands, he has no core values, he is the quintessential opportunist, the word's greatest conman, and PT Barnum would have loved him, and WC Field's famous quote, "You can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool some of the people some of the time, and........it's just enough to make a good living".

Ask yourself: Why does a billionaire solicit donations? Well, for a conman, if one can, then, why not?

THere is a reason Trump is under attack. It's not because of blind hatred. It's because we, on the left, are not infected by Trump, he has chosen your side so it is much easier for us to see right through his methods. He's using all the same tricks every demagogue in history has used, and it's so obvious I wish I could get on the roofs across the land and shout it, but the right's minds are closed, Trump has successfully mesmerized millions, and they are compliant, complicit, and complacent, it's as if it were right out of an Orwellian script. We loath Trump BECAUSE he doesn't have your interest in mind, only that of Trump, and we don't want such a man ever to have his finger on the nuke football, if you don't mind. This isn't blind, this is well reasoned, well thought out and well understood.

Our intentions are just, and for the national interest. Trump is a threat to US National Security, and he must be stopped by any legal means possible. It is sad that many on the right cannot see it, but there it is. But some sensible souls on the right are with us, such as the good folks over at the Lincoln Project. Read Rick Wilson's book, 'Everything Trump Touches, Dies'. Listen to the videos of Steve Schmidt, another co-founder of the Lincoln Project. it is their goal to resuscitate the GOP to it's original conservative traditions and roots, and Trump has taken it astray, and they know, as we know, he is taking the GOP right over a proverbial cliff. His movement will be disastrous, should Trump win a second term. His only motivation now, is not policies for the good of our country, his motivation is REVENGE, and only revenge, and that is the wrong reason to be president.

Once the MAGA cultist's brain is infected, it appears that for most, there is no escape, resistance, it seems, for many, is futile. They have been programed, via months and months of repetition and propagandistic oratory and TV punditry by Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Mark Levin et al., causing the MAGA base to hate the left and accuse the left of that which they are complicit, which IS the intent of the program by their right wing controllers, who do not have their (or your) best interests in mind, only that of Trump and his ilk. These facts are coming to light in the Dominion law suit. Fox pundits have knowingly been going along with the scheme and have been intentionally lying to their base. However, Fox will not report on the Dominion law suit, but you will find all about it on YouTube.

Some have made it out, but few are so able.

If you haven't, try and escape, you'll be glad you did.

Cheers,
Rumpole.

Okay, two things:

First, in a vacuum, being critical of Trump on some talk show or podcast or internet message board is one thing. It's low-hanging fruit, it's easy, it's an incredibly target-rich environment. But it's not the core problem here, and I think it's best left to the relatively shallow venues I mention above.

Second, the problem here (as I see it, anyway) requires us to look at this disaster from a 20,000 foot, sociological perspective: What has happened to this country when a person like this can attract such adoration and influence? I've said it a thousand times: It's not about Trump at all. It's about us.

I fully agree with your comments about their media, and it's my opinion that the alternate universe began the day Limbaugh went national. I think the influence of these people is a terribly under-discussed element here. They have turned hyper-partisan politics into a lifestyle. Once a contagion like this is in our very culture, it's terribly difficult to fix.

But again, Trump is low-hanging fruit for casual conversation, a catharsis. But that's all he is. He ain't the problem.

 

[dudmuck]

Over the years, I have witnessed a phenomenon occurring primarily on the right, that many of those on the right, which has burgeoned since Trump (though it has been going on for much longer than that), that their minds have become a bucket of mush filled with thought-terminating clichés ("TDS" "deep state" "fake news" "commies" "leftists" etc) and tired right wing tropes which are engineered to curb critical thinking and kill dissent, with the specific purpose of making the base compliant, complicit, and complacent.

As a man of 72 years, I've heard similar tropes going back to the days of the John Birch Society in the 60s. Their radical views were tolerated by the conservative leaders, but they gradually took things too far and William F Buckley, the granddad of conservatism during those years, as the founding member of the National Review, pushed the group to the sidelines. Once Buckley passed, the right no longer had a filter, and the group morphed into the T party, then the Freedom caucus, and now they are the MAGA movement, and in Trump, they have found their champion Trump, slightly older than myself, must be acutely aware of the history of the GOP, and how to manipulate their flock, and he easily took over the party, he knew the tropes they wanted to hear.

Make no mistake, Trump does not believe a word of what he says, he knows the types of right wing thought-terminating clichés will control his fock, and controlling his base is all he is interested in. In fact, Trump has changed parties no less than 6 times. During his Celeb Apprentice days, he was a democrat, we have videos of him praising democrats during this time, and this is because he knew that celebs are mostly liberal, and naturally he was a dem to curry favor with celebs. But to run for president, he knew the right would be much more receptive to a billionaire, so suddenly, he is now a 'Republican'. The point is, he is whatever the situation demands, he has no core values, he is the quintessential opportunist, the word's greatest conman, and PT Barnum would have loved him, and WC Field's famous quote, "You can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool some of the people some of the time, and........it's just enough to make a good living".

Ask yourself: Why does a billionaire solicit donations? Well, for a conman, if one can, then, why not?

THere is a reason Trump is under attack. It's not because of blind hatred. It's because we, on the left, are not infected by Trump, he has chosen your side so it is much easier for us to see right through his methods. He's using all the same tricks every demagogue in history has used, and it's so obvious I wish I could get on the roofs across the land and shout it, but the right's minds are closed, Trump has successfully mesmerized millions, and they are compliant, complicit, and complacent, it's as if it were right out of an Orwellian script. We loath Trump BECAUSE he doesn't have your interest in mind, only that of Trump, and we don't want such a man ever to have his finger on the nuke football, if you don't mind. This isn't blind, this is well reasoned, well thought out and well understood.

Our intentions are just, and for the national interest. Trump is a threat to US National Security, and he must be stopped by any legal means possible. It is sad that many on the right cannot see it, but there it is. But some sensible souls on the right are with us, such as the good folks over at the Lincoln Project. Read Rick Wilson's book, 'Everything Trump Touches, Dies'. Listen to the videos of Steve Schmidt, another co-founder of the Lincoln Project. it is their goal to resuscitate the GOP to it's original conservative traditions and roots, and Trump has taken it astray, and they know, as we know, he is taking the GOP right over a proverbial cliff. His movement will be disastrous, should Trump win a second term. His only motivation now, is not policies for the good of our country, his motivation is REVENGE, and only revenge, and that is the wrong reason to be president.

Once the MAGA cultist's brain is infected, it appears that for most, there is no escape, resistance, it seems, for many, is futile. They have been programed, via months and months of repetition and propagandistic oratory and TV punditry by Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Mark Levin et al., causing the MAGA base to hate the left and accuse the left of that which they are complicit, which IS the intent of the program by their right wing controllers, who do not have their (or your) best interests in mind, only that of Trump and his ilk. These facts are coming to light in the Dominion law suit. Fox pundits have knowingly been going along with the scheme and have been intentionally lying to their base. However, Fox will not report on the Dominion law suit, but you will find all about it on YouTube.

Some have made it out, but few are so able.

If you haven't, try and escape, you'll be glad you did.

Cheers,
Rumpole.

How To Free Our Minds with Cult Deprogramming Expert Dr. Steven Hassan

In an era of likes, followers, and echo chambers, how can we become aware of undue influence and gain sovereignty over our minds? Our guest this week is Dr. Steven Hassan, an expert on undue influence, brainwashing, and unethical hypnosis.

www.humanetech.com

some of the answers are here.

most people leave because the abuse of the group makes life terrible enough to break the indoctrination. This takes more time to develop, because maga has only been around for five years, cults take many more years for the abuse to develop.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

One think that I have noticed about Rumpole[stiltskin] is that he writes an extraordinary number of words, to say very, very little of any actual meaning.

.

Like 99% of the leftist vermin who post here.

.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Tl;dr

.

You didn't miss anything.

.

 

[SeaMajor7]

One think that I have noticed about Rumpole[stiltskin] is that he writes an extraordinary number of words, to say very, very little of any actual meaning.

It's a salad shooter.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Okay, two things:

First, in a vacuum, being critical of Trump on some talk show or podcast or internet message board is one thing. It's low-hanging fruit, it's easy, it's an incredibly target-rich environment. But it's not the core problem here, and I think it's best left to the relatively shallow venues I mention above.

Second, the problem here (as I see it, anyway) requires us to look at this disaster from a 20,000 foot, sociological perspective: What has happened to this country when a person like this can attract such adoration and influence? I've said it a thousand times: It's not about Trump at all. It's about us.

I fully agree with your comments about their media, and it's my opinion that the alternate universe began the day Limbaugh went national. I think the influence of these people is a terribly under-discussed element here. They have turned hyper-partisan politics into a lifestyle. Once a contagion like this is in our very culture, it's terribly difficult to fix.

But again, Trump is low-hanging fruit for casual conversation, a catharsis. But that's all he is. He ain't the problem.

Trump just brought the problem(s) out of the woodwork.
Trump knows his gullible "marks" well.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yup, on the Right, there are some Trump loyalists out there, and some dislike him, both numbers unknown.

There are various phenomenons in American politics, the most disturbing one that has being going on pre 2016 is Trump Derangement Syndrome.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Over the years, I have witnessed a phenomenon occurring primarily on the right, that many of those on the right, which has burgeoned since Trump (though it has been going on for much longer than that), that their minds have become a bucket of mush filled with thought-terminating clichés ("TDS" "deep state" "fake news" "commies" "leftists" etc) and tired right wing tropes which are engineered to curb critical thinking and kill dissent, with the specific purpose of making the base compliant, complicit, and complacent.

As a man of 72 years, I've heard similar tropes going back to the days of the John Birch Society in the 60s. Their radical views were tolerated by the conservative leaders, but they gradually took things too far and William F Buckley, the granddad of conservatism during those years, as the founding member of the National Review, pushed the group to the sidelines. Once Buckley passed, the right no longer had a filter, and the group morphed into the T party, then the Freedom caucus, and now they are the MAGA movement, and in Trump, they have found their champion Trump, slightly older than myself, must be acutely aware of the history of the GOP, and how to manipulate their flock, and he easily took over the party, he knew the tropes they wanted to hear.

Make no mistake, Trump does not believe a word of what he says, he knows the types of right wing thought-terminating clichés will control his fock, and controlling his base is all he is interested in. In fact, Trump has changed parties no less than 6 times. During his Celeb Apprentice days, he was a democrat, we have videos of him praising democrats during this time, and this is because he knew that celebs are mostly liberal, and naturally he was a dem to curry favor with celebs. But to run for president, he knew the right would be much more receptive to a billionaire, so suddenly, he is now a 'Republican'. The point is, he is whatever the situation demands, he has no core values, he is the quintessential opportunist, the word's greatest conman, and PT Barnum would have loved him, and WC Field's famous quote, "You can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool some of the people some of the time, and........it's just enough to make a good living".

Ask yourself: Why does a billionaire solicit donations? Well, for a conman, if one can, then, why not?

THere is a reason Trump is under attack. It's not because of blind hatred. It's because we, on the left, are not infected by Trump, he has chosen your side so it is much easier for us to see right through his methods. He's using all the same tricks every demagogue in history has used, and it's so obvious I wish I could get on the roofs across the land and shout it, but the right's minds are closed, Trump has successfully mesmerized millions, and they are compliant, complicit, and complacent, it's as if it were right out of an Orwellian script. We loath Trump BECAUSE he doesn't have your interest in mind, only that of Trump, and we don't want such a man ever to have his finger on the nuke football, if you don't mind. This isn't blind, this is well reasoned, well thought out and well understood.

Our intentions are just, and for the national interest. Trump is a threat to US National Security, and he must be stopped by any legal means possible. It is sad that many on the right cannot see it, but there it is. But some sensible souls on the right are with us, such as the good folks over at the Lincoln Project. Read Rick Wilson's book, 'Everything Trump Touches, Dies'. Listen to the videos of Steve Schmidt, another co-founder of the Lincoln Project. it is their goal to resuscitate the GOP to it's original conservative traditions and roots, and Trump has taken it astray, and they know, as we know, he is taking the GOP right over a proverbial cliff. His movement will be disastrous, should Trump win a second term. His only motivation now, is not policies for the good of our country, his motivation is REVENGE, and only revenge, and that is the wrong reason to be president.

Once the MAGA cultist's brain is infected, it appears that for most, there is no escape, resistance, it seems, for many, is futile. They have been programed, via months and months of repetition and propagandistic oratory and TV punditry by Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Mark Levin et al., causing the MAGA base to hate the left and accuse the left of that which they are complicit, which IS the intent of the program by their right wing controllers, who do not have their (or your) best interests in mind, only that of Trump and his ilk. These facts are coming to light in the Dominion law suit. Fox pundits have knowingly been going along with the scheme and have been intentionally lying to their base. However, Fox will not report on the Dominion law suit, but you will find all about it on YouTube.

Some have made it out, but few are so able.

If you haven't, try and escape, you'll be glad you did.

Cheers,
Rumpole.

a threat to national security. LOL
Chinese spy satelites do figure 8's over our military facility and biden does nothing b/c they have their hooks in him so deep

 

[Smokin' OP]

a threat to national security. LOL
Chinese spy satelites do figure 8's over our military facility and biden does nothing b/c they have their hooks in him so deep

May 15 2018
On Sunday, Donald Trump surprised his own advisers and reversed U.S. policy by announcing on Twitter that he wanted to lift U.S. sanctions on the Chinese telecom company ZTE. On Monday, Trump explained that the move was in part a personal favor to China’s president, Xi Jinping.

In what may or may not be related news, the Agence France-Presse news service is reporting that a Chinese company agreed last Thursday to build a theme park at a major Indonesian development project that is set to include Trump-branded hotels, residences, and a golf course—and that will be funded in part by $500 million in Chinese government loans.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump


President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!


11:01 AM · May 13, 2018

 

[Rumpole]

Okay, two things:

First, in a vacuum, being critical of Trump on some talk show or podcast or internet message board is one thing. It's low-hanging fruit, it's easy, it's an incredibly target-rich environment. But it's not the core problem here, and I think it's best left to the relatively shallow venues I mention above.

Second, the problem here (as I see it, anyway) requires us to look at this disaster from a 20,000 foot, sociological perspective: What has happened to this country when a person like this can attract such adoration and influence? I've said it a thousand times: It's not about Trump at all. It's about us.

I fully agree with your comments about their media, and it's my opinion that the alternate universe began the day Limbaugh went national. I think the influence of these people is a terribly under-discussed element here. They have turned hyper-partisan politics into a lifestyle. Once a contagion like this is in our very culture, it's terribly difficult to fix.

But again, Trump is low-hanging fruit for casual conversation, a catharsis. But that's all he is. He ain't the problem.

But that was the point. The 'problem' was the people in this sector. They have always been there, and before Trump, were kept under logs, so to speak. Since Trump, they have crawled out from under the logs and have been emboldened, now they are making a lot of noise, some even violent, and a few have even taken off their hoods. In Trump, they have found their champion. The traditional conservatives look upon them with horror, how they have hijacked the party.

We can never get rid of them, they will always be there. But, they will slither back to the logs when Trump goes, because there are few people like Trump, they come once in a few hundred years. A lot of countries have already had their Trump; Chile had Pinochet (not really a demagogue, but a dictator who rose to power via military coup), Argentina had Peron, Brazil had Bolsonaro (not a dictator, but a Trumpian demagogue), Spain had Franco, Italy had Mussolini, Russia has Putin, China had Mao, Cambodia had Pol Pot, Cuba had Castro, and Germany had Hitler . (these men are not all equal, a few are genocidal maniacs) America has never seen such a character rise to power, until Trump. One would think that after Trump's failure to win the election in 2020, America is now inoculated. But, America has the electoral college, which allows Republicans to win with a minority vote, and thus, even though he won't win the popular vote in 2024, it is possible, if Biden doesn't win by a large margin, tha Trump could regain power.

 

[Rumpole]

One think that I have noticed about Rumpole[stiltskin] is that he writes an extraordinary number of words, to say very, very little of any actual meaning.

Are you really that ignorant, Blaylock? Say it isn't so.

Cheers,
Rumpole

 

[Mac1958]

But that was the point. The 'problem' was the people in this sector. They have always been there, and before Trump, were kept under logs, so to speak. Since Trump, they have crawled out from under the logs and have been emboldened, now they are making a lot of noise, some even violent, and a few have even taken off their hoods. In Trump, they have found their champion. The traditional conservatives look upon them with horror, how they have hijacked the party.

We can never get rid of them, they will always be there. But, they will slither back to the logs when Trump goes, because there are few people like Trump, they come once in a few hundred years. A lot of countries have already had their Trump; Chile had Pinochet (not really a demagogue, but a dictator who rose to power via military coup), Argentina had Peron, Brazil had Bolsonaro (not a dictator, but a Trumpian demagogue), Spain had Franco, Italy had Mussolini, Russia has Putin, China had Mao, Cambodia had Pol Pot, Cuba had Castro, and Germany had Hitler . (these men are not all equal, a few are genocidal maniacs) America has never seen such a character rise to power, until Trump. One would think that after Trump's failure to win the election in 2020, America is now inoculated. But, America has the electoral college, which allows Republicans to win with a minority vote, and thus, even though he won't win the popular vote in 2024, it is possible, if Biden doesn't win by a large margin, tha Trump could regain power.

I just never thought I would see this here. Never, ever.

And no, we can't get rid of them, and frankly I really don't want to. I want all voices heard, loud and clear. But it sure would be nice if our society would nudge them back to the political fringe where they belong, rather than giving them so much power. When MTG is representing a major political party and is even mentioned for VP, this country is in serious peril. Something is clearly broken.

 

[Vrenn]

But that was the point. The 'problem' was the people in this sector. They have always been there, and before Trump, were kept under logs, so to speak. Since Trump, they have crawled out from under the logs and have been emboldened, now they are making a lot of noise, some even violent, and a few have even taken off their hoods. In Trump, they have found their champion. The traditional conservatives look upon them with horror, how they have hijacked the party.

We can never get rid of them, they will always be there. But, they will slither back to the logs when Trump goes, because there are few people like Trump, they come once in a few hundred years. A lot of countries have already had their Trump; Chile had Pinochet (not really a demagogue, but a dictator who rose to power via military coup), Argentina had Peron, Brazil had Bolsonaro (not a dictator, but a Trumpian demagogue), Spain had Franco, Italy had Mussolini, Russia has Putin, China had Mao, Cambodia had Pol Pot, Cuba had Castro, and Germany had Hitler . (these men are not all equal, a few are genocidal maniacs) America has never seen such a character rise to power, until Trump. One would think that after Trump's failure to win the election in 2020, America is now inoculated. But, America has the electoral college, which allows Republicans to win with a minority vote, and thus, even though he won't win the popular vote in 2024, it is possible, if Biden doesn't win by a large margin, tha Trump could regain power.

It's not that simple. The MAGAts are here to stay, yes. But we need to put them forceably back under their rocks and back into the caves. In otherwords, we need to start exercising our Laws which would start locking up more and more of the fruitcakes. Just claiming to support a Revolution should be enough to either fine or jail them for a short time.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It's not that simple. The MAGAts are here to stay, yes. But we need to put them forceably back under their rocks and back into the caves. In otherwords, we need to start exercising our Laws which would start locking up more and more of the fruitcakes. Just claiming to support a Revolution should be enough to either fine or jail them for a short time.

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Oh, thank you! I really needed that!






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[Rumpole]

Yup, on the Right, there are some Trump loyalists out there, and some dislike him, both numbers unknown.

There are various phenomenons in American politics, the most disturbing one that has being going on pre 2016 is Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Yes, like I wrote in the OP,

Over the years, I have witnessed a phenomenon occurring primarily on the right, that many of those on the right, which has burgeoned since Trump (though it has been going on for much longer than that), that their minds have become a bucket of mush filled with thought-terminating clichés ("TDS" "deep state" "fake news" "commies" "leftists" etc) and tired right wing tropes which are engineered to curb critical thinking and kill dissent, with the specific purpose of making the base compliant, complicit, and complacent.

Why is 'TDS' a thought-terminating cliché? Your intent on mentioning is to kill the conversation, and it also serves to curtail your critical thinking skills. That is true because that term only resonates in the right wing brain.

Demagogues implant thought-terminating clichés in your brain via repetition, because they want you compliant, complicit, and complacent.

Unless you can snap out of your stupor, you'll never know it is happening to you.

Cheers,
Rumpole.