If God doesn't exist...

[RWS]

If you obviously plagiarize something, you should provide the source. Not post it as your own creation.

You seem to have to turn to quickly googling a subject and either pasting the link without reading it (which has failed you), or posting content of a link without reference. Which again fails you here.

This signals desperation on your side.

There is no need for desperation. Simply ask why people may think differently than you do, and listen to them. And do not put them down because they think that way. You may actually learn something. And if you have questions of how your faiths may exist, just ask them. You need to let go of this superiority complex that "religion from birth" gave you. It's not helping anybody...

 

[ding]

If you obviously plagiarize something, you should provide the source. Not post it as your own creation.

You seem to have to turn to quickly googling a subject and either pasting the link without reading it (which has failed you), or posting content of a link without reference. Which again fails you here.

This signals desperation on your side.

There is no need for desperation. Simply ask why people may think differently than you do, and listen to them. And do not put them down because they think that way. You may actually learn something. And if you have questions of how your faiths may exist, just ask them. You need to let go of this superiority complex that "religion from birth" gave you. It's not helping anybody...

The Socialist Phenomenon by Alexander Shafarevich. It's probably over your head. The post was made to show how reprehensible the Free Spirits were that he so greatly admires.

You worry about what you post and I'll worry about what I post, Ok? If I want your advice, I'll ask. Fair enough?

 

[RWS]

You're like the fake news stories that are proliferating around the internet. You have no idea what you post. You just put it out there, in hopes that nobody reads it and just accepts it as proof of your gibberish. Have you ever read anything that you have wrote?

First of all... His name was Igor!

Tell me, what do you understand from his writings...

 

[ding]

You're like the fake news stories that are proliferating around the internet. You have no idea what you post. You just put it out there, in hopes that nobody reads it and just accepts it as proof of your gibberish. Have you ever read anything that you have wrote?

First of all... His name was Igor!

Tell me, what do you understand from his writings...

Yep, it was Igor. I transposed his first name with Solzhenitsyn. I've done that before. Shoot me. I have read IGOR's work. Have you?

 

[Mudda]

Christians dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan. Christians also destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan. And the Christian god let AIDS happen. Should I go on?

Sure, and they should not have rationalized that it was a good thing. What's your point?

You'll have to take that aids thingee up with God. Make sure to give Him an earful when you do.

Point is that Christians, like everyone else, are capable of the complete range of human actions, from the good to the bad, and aren't in any special category because of the belief in an invisible superbeing.

I'm for sure going to ask god why he gives little kids, or anyone really, cancer. Is it for fun, or is he simply a douchesack.

Yep, we are all broken human beings. Some more than others. You prove that on a daily basis. Not to worry His spirit is still inside of you pruning you. Be patient. It is a work in progress.

Why does god need to prune me? He fuck up when he made me the first time?

No. your parents did.

They're dead. Thanks. You're such a loser. Again.

 

[RWS]

You're like the fake news stories that are proliferating around the internet. You have no idea what you post. You just put it out there, in hopes that nobody reads it and just accepts it as proof of your gibberish. Have you ever read anything that you have wrote?

First of all... His name was Igor!

Tell me, what do you understand from his writings...

Yep, it was Igor. I transposed his first name with Solzhenitsyn. I've done that before. Shoot me. I have read IGOR's work. Have you?

Apparently you have not, since again you use something you haven't read to contradict your own argument about religion. Socialism is a religion. I have said that so many times so far. Not sure which one you missed. And, by fooling people to follow outrageous ideas for the benefit of their rulers, Socialists are just as guilty as any other religion of genocide and other horrific crimes against humanity.

The "heaven" that socialism offers is "communism". Communism has never existed, because it can't, given our human nature for greed. However, Christianity claims that "Heaven" is just like "Communism" because there is no greed or sin. We all live equally and in peace with each other on some other plane of existence. So the difference is that Communism wants that ideal on Earth, while Heaven wants it on some ethereal plane that requires death.

Both "heaven" and "communism" are impossible on this earth. Along with "valhalla" and "nirvana" and "jannah" and countless other paradises that rulers use to fool people into killing for them. They all require you to die in order to see it, while being in servitude throughout your life. That should be a big red flag.

These various "heavens" are simply a means rulers use to get their subjects to kill, based on the promise of paradise, in exchange for their martyrdom.

The true "paradise" we should strive for, should be the future success of mankind. And that requires getting along with other humans, science, protecting the earth and its habitats, and a way out of here when the cosmic shit eventually hits the fan.

 

[RWS]

So consider this scenario....

You meet a woman and fall in love. She is the love of your life and you marry her. That is a great thing!

But on her deathbed, you promise to be with her in Heaven.

Years later, you meet another wonderful woman and marry her. She is also everything you ever wanted and fall deeply in love.

But she dies too.

Which one do you spend eternity in Heaven with, once you die?

It's a paradox...

Unless Heaven is occupied by Mormons and that stuff is allowed...

Same thing applies to women, vice-versa.

Or, simply, there is no paradox, because there is no heaven where we get to hang out with each other after death.

 

[RWS]

I tend to stay on topic, but that question really confounds me....

Assume you're on Gilligan's Island and Heaven really exists, and you have loved Ginger for years (who then sadly died), and then Maryanne for years (who later sadly died).

Which one do you choose to spend eternity with in Heaven when you die? And won't the other feel a bit slighted, having been waiting, and then left all alone for eternity, despite your love for her? And what if she found someone else, before you got there?

It's a conundrum millions and eventually billions of people must face in Heaven... if it exists.

 

[RWS]

Is there a "Heaven Dating Bar" that rejected people go to, to find eternal soulmates?

 

[ding]

Sure, and they should not have rationalized that it was a good thing. What's your point?

You'll have to take that aids thingee up with God. Make sure to give Him an earful when you do.

Point is that Christians, like everyone else, are capable of the complete range of human actions, from the good to the bad, and aren't in any special category because of the belief in an invisible superbeing.

I'm for sure going to ask god why he gives little kids, or anyone really, cancer. Is it for fun, or is he simply a douchesack.

Yep, we are all broken human beings. Some more than others. You prove that on a daily basis. Not to worry His spirit is still inside of you pruning you. Be patient. It is a work in progress.

Why does god need to prune me? He fuck up when he made me the first time?

No. your parents did.

They're dead. Thanks. You're such a loser. Again.

Sorry for your loss.

 

[ding]

You're like the fake news stories that are proliferating around the internet. You have no idea what you post. You just put it out there, in hopes that nobody reads it and just accepts it as proof of your gibberish. Have you ever read anything that you have wrote?

First of all... His name was Igor!

Tell me, what do you understand from his writings...

Yep, it was Igor. I transposed his first name with Solzhenitsyn. I've done that before. Shoot me. I have read IGOR's work. Have you?

Apparently you have not, since again you use something you haven't read to contradict your own argument about religion. Socialism is a religion. I have said that so many times so far. Not sure which one you missed. And, by fooling people to follow outrageous ideas for the benefit of their rulers, Socialists are just as guilty as any other religion of genocide and other horrific crimes against humanity.

The "heaven" that socialism offers is "communism". Communism has never existed, because it can't, given our human nature for greed. However, Christianity claims that "Heaven" is just like "Communism" because there is no greed or sin. We all live equally and in peace with each other on some other plane of existence. So the difference is that Communism wants that ideal on Earth, while Heaven wants it on some ethereal plane that requires death.

Both "heaven" and "communism" are impossible on this earth. Along with "valhalla" and "nirvana" and "jannah" and countless other paradises that rulers use to fool people into killing for them. They all require you to die in order to see it, while being in servitude throughout your life. That should be a big red flag.

These various "heavens" are simply a means rulers use to get their subjects to kill, based on the promise of paradise, in exchange for their martyrdom.

The true "paradise" we should strive for, should be the future success of mankind. And that requires getting along with other humans, science, protecting the earth and its habitats, and a way out of here when the cosmic shit eventually hits the fan.

Heaven is not being separated from God. Hell is being separated from God. I wouldn't read anymore than that into it.

 

[ding]

So consider this scenario....

You meet a woman and fall in love. She is the love of your life and you marry her. That is a great thing!

But on her deathbed, you promise to be with her in Heaven.

Years later, you meet another wonderful woman and marry her. She is also everything you ever wanted and fall deeply in love.

But she dies too.

Which one do you spend eternity in Heaven with, once you die?

It's a paradox...

Unless Heaven is occupied by Mormons and that stuff is allowed...

Same thing applies to women, vice-versa.

Or, simply, there is no paradox, because there is no heaven where we get to hang out with each other after death.

Jesus already answered this.

 

[RWS]

Well, I'd love to hear the reason in regular talk. Because from what I've learned, it actually does become a dating bar afterwards. Where you rejoin each spouse and live together and eventually decide whether you really want her/him or not. And then you go back and try again with the other, and so on. And if you're not there early enough, you may be out of luck. And spend eternity without a soulmate.

Doesn't seem fair to a poor fellow like Gilligan, in my example, who truly loved them both deeply. Maybe he'll hook up with the Skipper...

Do soulmates in Heaven have to be different genders?

 

[ding]

Well, I'd love to hear the reason in regular talk. Because from what I've learned, it actually does become a dating bar afterwards. Where you rejoin each spouse and live together and eventually decide whether you really want her/him or not. And then you go back and try again with the other, and so on. And if you're not there early enough, you may be out of luck. And spend eternity without a soulmate.

Doesn't seem fair to a poor fellow like Gilligan, in my example, who truly loved them both deeply. Maybe he'll hook up with the Skipper...

Do soulmates in Heaven have to be different genders?

There's no marriage in heaven.

 

[RWS]

Well, then why do they force it on earth?

Have a child out of wedlock when you're a Christian, and that poor kid is subject to ridicule.

If we're just going to start over in a dating bar in Heaven, why promote the bond of marriage on earth?

I got married in a Catholic church. Before I did, my future wife and I had to meet with the priests. The purpose, I believe, was why we are having a holy sanctimony in the "Church".

Now she's Catholic. I never accepted a religion, even though my parents are Catholic. But I do believe in the goodness that the words of Jesus promote. And she knew how I rolled.

So they questioned her and I for about an hour, but very mostly me, and I told them the flat out truth. I told them that I believe that the ideal of Jesus is good, but I do not believe that he was a supernatural being, and definitely not the son of "God". I told them that the idea of "god" is just something to make money out of, and that the only reason I wanted to get married there was to honor her faith. But that I would always be a good person that Jesus would be proud of. I laid out the truth to them, just like I have laid it out here.

After a conference of about 30 minutes, they told me I could get married at their church for a donation. I offered $1000 and they accepted.

So, whether it was them trusting my good nature even though I did not believe in the religion... or just wanting the donation...

I got married here, and it was absolutely beautiful.

Apparently, money trumps faith, when it really comes down to it.

 

[sealybobo]

...and science holds the answer to all questions....

Then what kick started the universe?

After all we wouldn't want to violate one of Newton's three laws now would we?

If the scientific answer at this time is we don't know...

Then doesn't that mean a miracle occurred?

*****CHUCKLE*****

If God doesn't exist then you are not a God who yourself lives forever, never gets sick and are always happy for all eternity.

But you actually believe you are a God, don't you? That's insane when you think about it

 

[BreezeWood]

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But you actually believe you are a God, don't you?

have you reached the Apex of Knowledge and accomplished the Triumph of Good vs Evil ... then the Almighty will judge if it were the correct Triumph and finally your Spirit may be set free, for as long as it will last in the Everlasting.

 

[PK1]

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But you actually believe you are a God, don't you?

have you reached the Apex of Knowledge and accomplished the Triumph of Good vs Evil ... then the Almighty will judge if it were the correct Triumph and finally your Spirit may be set free, for as long as it will last in the Everlasting.

How anthropomorphic, from an intellectually feeble perspective.
If you're going to fantasize a god who gives a shit what you do, why not imagine a being that appreciates your ability to have fun and enhance the merriness of all others you cross paths with?

 

[Tuatara]

...and science holds the answer to all questions....

Then what kick started the universe?

After all we wouldn't want to violate one of Newton's three laws now would we?

If the scientific answer at this time is we don't know...

Then doesn't that mean a miracle occurred?

*****CHUCKLE*****

If God doesn't exist then you are not a God who yourself lives forever, never gets sick and are always happy for all eternity.

But you actually believe you are a God, don't you? That's insane when you think about it

Think about that. For all eternity. After 7,099,364 trillion years I think you would be saying "can someone kill me for real?"

 

[PK1]

If God doesn't exist...

Life would continue as is,
and i would not notice any difference.

Seems to me that "God" is what a feeble mind imagines to easy-button "explain" their origins, from their anthropomorphic perspective, of course.