If God doesn't exist...

[Dr Grump]

How many cases of my bottled water should I put you down for?

None. I drink from the tap (faucet) of life...

 

[RWS]

As I already said, Socialism is a religion that is very closely related to two Christian religions, one of which we have a holiday for, minus the "god". The goal of socialism is
to get to Communism, rather than Heaven. And of course, the goal is unattainable, but people are forced to strive and obey their rulers regardless, and the rulers keep making more money and power, while never letting the truth be known.

Socialism intentionally denies examination. In fact there is no formal defined dogma. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something noble and good, of equality, communal ownership, and justice: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. World socialism as a whole, and all the figures associated with it, are shrouded in legend; its contradictions are forgotten or concealed; it does not respond to arguments but continually ignores them--all this stems from the mist of irrationality that surrounds socialism and from its instinctive aversion to scientific analysis. Socialism dismisses its defeats and ignores its incongruities. The genesis of the first socialist doctrines were reactions: Plato as a reaction to Greek culture, and the Gnostics as a reaction to Christianity. They sought to counteract the endeavor of the human spirit to stand erect, and strove to return to the earthbound existence of the primitive states of antiquity. Socialism is diametrically opposed between the concepts of man held by religion and by socialism. Socialism seeks to reduce human personality to its most primitive levels and to extinguish the highest, most complex, and "God-like" aspects of human individuality. And even equality itself, that powerful appeal and great promise of socialists throughout the ages, turns out to signify not equality of rights, of opportunities, and of external conditions, but equality qua identity, equality seen as the movement of variety toward uniformity.

Socialism acts like a religion which worships big government and social policy. It is based on atheism and deification of man. It proceeds in almost all its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of an individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and communality or equality. The religious nature of socialism explains the extraordinary attraction to socialist doctrines and its capacity to inflame individuals and inspire popular movements and condemn respect for any who believe in Christianity. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. Their hostility towards traditional religions is that of an animosity between a rival religion. They can be identified by an external locus of control. They worship science but are the first to argue against it.

Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn -- A World Split Apart — Commencement Address Delivered At Harvard University, June 8, 1978

The Socialist Phenomenon by Igor Shafarevich

More links?!?

Did you take the time to read them this time, to make sure they're not falsifying your argument? I sure ain't gonna click 'em anymore...

But your reply is EXACTLY what Christianity did. Minus the God part... Think Puritanism and Calvinism as easy examples. I'm not promoting Socialism either, it is equally bad due to coercing people to do bad things in the name of their "God" (god being government in Socialism). And Socialists killed millions of people due to their religion in the 20th century. Just showing you that Socialism is a religion, just as bad as Christianity.

But atheists are not Socialists! Geez...

Just because people are atheist/agnostic, does not make them part of mother Russia! You sound like McCarthy at his peak!

People that are atheist/agnostic simply haven't been fooled by the snake-oil salesmen that have tried to embed themselves into our psyche from birth.

We're rational people, looking at an irrational society of religious lemmings killing each other over supernatural beings, and wondering where this craziness is going to lead us...

And I don't see it leading anywhere "good" for humanity, as it stands right now. I think the Earth could definitely use an "intervention".

Except believing socialism is bad I agree. Some things should be socialized.

Or properly regulated.

I agree that Communism is potentially good, though I don't know if humans can really live that way over a prolonged time. Socialism is the way that they told people is necessary in getting there, and they successfully fooled their followers into thinking that they will eventually get there. But the people won't.... Because the ones in power will never willingly give up their power and be a common person, which is what is necessary for Communism. Greed is too mighty to ignore.

Couldn't you say the same thing about capitalism?

Yes, it could be potentially good. But again, the greedy have capitalized (forgive the pun) and it is no longer what it was initially meant to be.

 

[ding]

This is not true. One needs to look no further than the Christians on this forum to see that this statement is completely false.

Charities and organizations which serve the betterment of man have been around long before Christianity was around. Most of the biggest corrupt charitable organizations have been Christian ones.

Another lie. In fact when we look at countries with the highest literacy rates we see that the countries with large Christian influence are absent from the list.
25 Countries With The Highest Literacy Rates
Countries with the best healthcare and education for all and not just the rich show up on countries without Christian influence throughout every list polled.As for being the first source, this is misleading. We know Christian ministries will set up schools and shelters in third world countries but not without a price. People must convert to Christianity to usually get access to books, healthcare, clothing, toys and food in these instances.


I don't think you would want to list orphanages with all the history of abuse conducted by those Christian protectors of children. Supporting Cultural outreaches?? Are you kidding me? Like how Christians supported the native population by taking their children away from their parents and placing them in residential schools where isolation, humiliation , denigration and abuse were widespread.

Not one Christian gets their morality and civility form the bible. It comes from other influences. This I can prove. Other nations where other religions and non-religion have more influence usually have the same morality and civility.
Again, these traits were around long before Christianity. Loot at the huge amount of Christians and Christian leaders that have shown zero accountability and responsibility.

Because of time constraints I will argue these points later. Off to work.

Atheism is correlated with better scientific literacy, lower poverty rates, higher literacy rates, higher average incomes, less violence, lower divorce rates, lower teen pregnancy rates, lower STD infection rates, lower crime rates and lower homicide rates.

Studies on happiness outside of predominantly religious countries (eg. the United States) find little to no correlation between happiness and religious belief. This corresponds with evidence which shows social and community bonding, rather than spiritual engagement, explains why religious people report greater satisfaction with life.

That hasn't been my observation on these boards and in life in general.

How come China never swallowed the Jesus story? Paul went to Greece and conned my ancestors. Why didn't like or John go con the Asians? Or did they try unsuccessfully?

We all know Asians are smart. Maybe they are too smart for the abrahamic religions

You will have to ask them.

What Is The Future Of Religion? - When Will China Become the World’s Largest Christian Country?

Oh no even them?

Good thing you don't have a preference about what others choose, lol.

 

[ding]

No go be a free spirit. Leave my spirit alone.

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No go be a free spirit. Leave my spirit alone.

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like you left hers alone, the Free Spirits you disdain.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was established in 1478 by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under Papal control. It became the most substantive of the three different manifestations of the wider Christian Inquisition along with the Roman Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition.
Spanish Inquisition - Wikipedia

they and a few others and with humanx, bing and their crowd a new revival for their next notch in history. sadly for womanhood.

They were pieces of shit.

can there be hope for bing ... red alert, calling humanx.


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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

you have it backwards bing, they were christians, jews and islamist ... the gal is a Free Spirit that despite their effort, yours and humanx lives today. stay your faith, keep trying the bible is your shield.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

 

[ding]

No go be a free spirit. Leave my spirit alone.

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No go be a free spirit. Leave my spirit alone.

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like you left hers alone, the Free Spirits you disdain.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

.

Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was established in 1478 by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under Papal control. It became the most substantive of the three different manifestations of the wider Christian Inquisition along with the Roman Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition.
Spanish Inquisition - Wikipedia

they and a few others and with humanx, bing and their crowd a new revival for their next notch in history. sadly for womanhood.

They were pieces of shit.

can there be hope for bing ... red alert, calling humanx.


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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

Reminds me of the us military's record on how women are treated. We let our boys rape women and get away with it.

Or how we didn't imprison any priests who molested kids. The Catholic Church transferred them to other parashes where they could rape again.

I'm glad you have a holy book of absolute right and wrong. Now if your Christian nation would live by those rules it'd be great.

As an atheist I don't need a holy book to tell me not to rape.

It was mainly a homosexual problem that ended back in the 80's, but don't let that get in the way of your confirmation bias of rape and pedifilia by ALL priests. I wouldn't want you to gain any objectivity on this subject and disrupt the movie playing in your head.

 

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I agree that Communism is potentially good,

I rest my case.

Religion is a communist system. One powerful person at the top, and everyone under them is a loser who needs to be saved by the system that they'll feed.

I'm sure you do see it that way.

That's what it is, the guy at the top tells you what and how to think. Otherwise, maybe you're not even a Catholic. Just a faker like all the rest.

Exactly, "Communism" is "Heaven" to followers of Socialism (but not to the rulers). Of course that ideal would be very nice. But it's not possible because it doesn't exist. It's a made-up fantasy that they promise to their poor followers if they cooperate. While the rulers rack in tons of money... And in the case of Socialism, they will never let go, to allow Communism. In the case of religions, people just die, and can never go back and give a 0-star rating to their religion on Amazon...

Socialism can never refuse communism. It is only a matter of time and failure.

 

[ding]

More links?!?

Did you take the time to read them this time, to make sure they're not falsifying your argument? I sure ain't gonna click 'em anymore...

Of course I did. I wouldn't expect you to be able stomach reading them and even if you could I wouldn't expect you to comprehend them.

But your reply is EXACTLY what Christianity did. Minus the God part... Think Puritanism and Calvinism as easy examples. I'm not promoting Socialism either, it is equally bad due to coercing people to do bad things in the name of their "God" (god being government in Socialism). And Socialists killed millions of people due to their religion in the 20th century. Just showing you that Socialism is a religion, just as bad as Christianity.

Don't be silly, Christianity has been the greatest force for good in the history of mankind. You just can't be objective about it because you don't believe you can be wrong. Your righteous indignation was only made possible by the high standards established by Judea/Christianity. You are like the dog who bites the hand that feeds it. You are like the goat who believes the other pasture is greener. Path not taken. Grow up in India or China and see how you would have been treated.

But atheists are not Socialists! Geez...

Just because people are atheist/agnostic, does not make them part of mother Russia! You sound like McCarthy at his peak!

People that are atheist/agnostic simply haven't been fooled by the snake-oil salesmen that have tried to embed themselves into our psyche from birth.

We're rational people, looking at an irrational society of religious lemmings killing each other over supernatural beings, and wondering where this craziness is going to lead us...

And I don't see it leading anywhere "good" for humanity, as it stands right now. I think the Earth could definitely use an "intervention".

First of all, you are not agnostic. You are an atheist. Maybe a borderline militant atheist. Secondly, history and reason tells us the MILITANT atheism leads to communism.

lol, whatever you want to classify me as, I can tell you one thing... I understand the nature of goodness more than you ever will, while you're trapped in your fantasies of religious superiority.

No. You don't. Your morals are relative and can change. You have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure.

Again, you have it backwards. My morals never change. They are the same from birth. Or at least as far back as I can remember....

And it is to never kill or hurt another person, unless I am physically attacked first.

That's not the way religion has rolled, throughout history. And there's a simple reason why. Let's say there are 100 followers of someone promoting a new religion, and that person is genuinely honest. That causes a lot of money to be raised, and necessitates the need for people to collect that money and hand it out as needed. However, there is never a true 100% transfer of donations to charities. The rulers take the money they need to survive and live to their means, and before death, pass along the money-making machine to their offspring or friends. But once the initial followers die of natural causes, the religion ends and the money stops flowing. So therefore, they must constantly try to convert more people into the religion to keep a constant cash-flow.

And sometimes, the rate of peaceful converts is not enough to sustain that religion as it expands, should another religion attack. So they have to form a large enough army by forcibly creating new followers and/or slaves, since their initial 100 true followers will eventually die and they can't defend themselves. And when they can't convert them by their logic, they turn to threats of torture and death. If that fails, they go to slavery.

Eventually when they have encompassed a large enough area, the newborn babies in that area will be brainwashed into that religion from birth. Since that is all they ever knew. So each generation develops a future army, to go out and kill and conquer for the financial benefit of their current religious ruler. Because the more they grow, the more difficult they are to defeat. And that ensures riches for the ones that promote the religions.

God does not need money. God does not need worshipers. And he definitely doesn't need an army.... The people that tell you that God needs these things, are simply trying to fill their own coffers at the expense of the people who really need it. And they've been very successful at it, covering many religions, for well over 4000 years.

I hope you don't mind if I see it differently.

 

[RWS]

I rest my case.

Religion is a communist system. One powerful person at the top, and everyone under them is a loser who needs to be saved by the system that they'll feed.

I'm sure you do see it that way.

That's what it is, the guy at the top tells you what and how to think. Otherwise, maybe you're not even a Catholic. Just a faker like all the rest.

Exactly, "Communism" is "Heaven" to followers of Socialism (but not to the rulers). Of course that ideal would be very nice. But it's not possible because it doesn't exist. It's a made-up fantasy that they promise to their poor followers if they cooperate. While the rulers rack in tons of money... And in the case of Socialism, they will never let go, to allow Communism. In the case of religions, people just die, and can never go back and give a 0-star rating to their religion on Amazon...

Socialism can never refuse communism. It is only a matter of time and failure.

You need to learn the order of things.

They don't go in the way that your fantasies predict. As I quoted before, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

You need to choose whether you will continue to be a lemming, or, make a new path for yourself based on your faith.

Regurgitating the terrible stuff your religion has caused, and trying to turn it into a positive, is not a good sign for your spiritual future.

You're just a follower. Consider becoming a leader in something beneficial instead...

 

[Mudda]

Christians dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan. Christians also destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan. And the Christian god let AIDS happen. Should I go on?

Sure, and they should not have rationalized that it was a good thing. What's your point?

You'll have to take that aids thingee up with God. Make sure to give Him an earful when you do.

Point is that Christians, like everyone else, are capable of the complete range of human actions, from the good to the bad, and aren't in any special category because of the belief in an invisible superbeing.

I'm for sure going to ask god why he gives little kids, or anyone really, cancer. Is it for fun, or is he simply a douchesack.

Yep, we are all broken human beings. Some more than others. You prove that on a daily basis. Not to worry His spirit is still inside of you pruning you. Be patient. It is a work in progress.

This must be how god wants me to be, otherwise he would have changed me/led me down a different path.

If you say so.

Glad you agree. Good for you.

 

[Mudda]

I agree that Communism is potentially good,

I rest my case.

Religion is a communist system. One powerful person at the top, and everyone under them is a loser who needs to be saved by the system that they'll feed.

I'm sure you do see it that way.

That's what it is, the guy at the top tells you what and how to think. Otherwise, maybe you're not even a Catholic. Just a faker like all the rest.

I'm happy enough for you to believe anything you want about me or God.

It's how you project yourself to others. Pretty much as a fake Catholic. Because you obviously can't tell. You're welcome.

 

[Mudda]

Greatest force for good??? The religion that promotes slavery, bigotry, racism, witch burnings, the crusades, the holy wars, the inquisition... I could go on. Christianity also homophobic, misogynistic, anti-scientific and anti-intellectual, it preys on the ignorant, the innocent. It encourages acceptance of truly bad things while focusing on imaginary evils. There is way to many more to list. I will acknowledge that Christianity has done some good things for some individuals but as a whole it has done more harm.

Yes, greatest force for good. Western Civilization was built upon the foundation of Christianity.

Christianity promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness. Christianity is responsible for the creation of wonderful charities and organizations which serve the betterment of man. Christians and Christian institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.Christians and Christian institutions have been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing. Christianity gave us the concept of subsidiarity and has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility Christianity teaches accountability and responsibility. Christianity teaches that we have a choice in how we behave and that actions have consequences. Christianity inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe and helps us feel connected to one another and to nature through regular community gatherings. Christianity helps us feel less alone in the world by binding the community together. Christianity serves to ennoble the human spirit and inspires love, peace and happiness. Christianity brings order to our lives by promoting the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness and humility. Christianity brings comfort to the terminally ill and can act as a source of hope for the oppressed. Christianity teaches that we can transform ourselves. That it is possible to change for the better. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market. The Catholic Church invented the university. Western law grew out of Church canon law. The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources. Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians. Christianity gave us America. Christianity gave us incredible artwork, music and architecture. Christianity has spread democracy throughout the world. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression and rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII. Christians put a man on the moon and ended the cold war.

Christians dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan. Christians also destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan. And the Christian god let AIDS happen. Should I go on?

Sure, and they should not have rationalized that it was a good thing. What's your point?

You'll have to take that aids thingee up with God. Make sure to give Him an earful when you do.

Point is that Christians, like everyone else, are capable of the complete range of human actions, from the good to the bad, and aren't in any special category because of the belief in an invisible superbeing.

I'm for sure going to ask god why he gives little kids, or anyone really, cancer. Is it for fun, or is he simply a douchesack.

Yep, we are all broken human beings. Some more than others. You prove that on a daily basis. Not to worry His spirit is still inside of you pruning you. Be patient. It is a work in progress.

Why does god need to prune me? He fuck up when he made me the first time?

 

[sealybobo]

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like you left hers alone, the Free Spirits you disdain.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was established in 1478 by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under Papal control. It became the most substantive of the three different manifestations of the wider Christian Inquisition along with the Roman Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition.
Spanish Inquisition - Wikipedia

they and a few others and with humanx, bing and their crowd a new revival for their next notch in history. sadly for womanhood.

They were pieces of shit.

can there be hope for bing ... red alert, calling humanx.


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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

Reminds me of the us military's record on how women are treated. We let our boys rape women and get away with it.

Or how we didn't imprison any priests who molested kids. The Catholic Church transferred them to other parashes where they could rape again.

I'm glad you have a holy book of absolute right and wrong. Now if your Christian nation would live by those rules it'd be great.

As an atheist I don't need a holy book to tell me not to rape.

It was mainly a homosexual problem that ended back in the 80's, but don't let that get in the way of your confirmation bias of rape and pedifilia by ALL priests. I wouldn't want you to gain any objectivity on this subject and disrupt the movie playing in your head.

I'm talking about how the church reacted to rapist priests.

Your holy books of absolute right and wrong let you down. You guys do whatever makes you feel good too. If not then what is the official punishment for raping little boys? What does your holy book say we should do with the next pedophile priest?

And when will the USA, a supposedly Christian nation, start dealing with the men who rape women? What does your holy book say we should do with the next soldier who's a rapist?

Your holy book doesn't teach on these things.

 

[BreezeWood]

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like you left hers alone, the Free Spirits you disdain.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was established in 1478 by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under Papal control. It became the most substantive of the three different manifestations of the wider Christian Inquisition along with the Roman Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition.
Spanish Inquisition - Wikipedia

they and a few others and with humanx, bing and their crowd a new revival for their next notch in history. sadly for womanhood.

They were pieces of shit.

can there be hope for bing ... red alert, calling humanx.


.

The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

you have it backwards bing, they were christians, jews and islamist ... the gal is a Free Spirit that despite their effort, yours and humanx lives today. stay your faith, keep trying the bible is your shield.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

the point bing the deceiver is they arrived to late the gal and all her friends died. funny how its after the fact you claim redemption, after your sins. christianity is indeed special.

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[sealybobo]

Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was established in 1478 by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under Papal control. It became the most substantive of the three different manifestations of the wider Christian Inquisition along with the Roman Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition.
Spanish Inquisition - Wikipedia

they and a few others and with humanx, bing and their crowd a new revival for their next notch in history. sadly for womanhood.

They were pieces of shit.

can there be hope for bing ... red alert, calling humanx.


.

The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

you have it backwards bing, they were christians, jews and islamist ... the gal is a Free Spirit that despite their effort, yours and humanx lives today. stay your faith, keep trying the bible is your shield.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

the point bing the deceiver is they arrived to late the gal and all her friends died. funny how its after the fact you claim redemption, after your sins. christianity is indeed special.

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I thing Bing understands my original point. He thinks because of his religion his morals are set in stone but we see Christians have come a long way.

So have Jews by the way. There was a time when they crucified a guy just for saying he was gods sun. Would Jews kill someone for that today? Probably not

 

[ding]

Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was established in 1478 by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under Papal control. It became the most substantive of the three different manifestations of the wider Christian Inquisition along with the Roman Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition.
Spanish Inquisition - Wikipedia

they and a few others and with humanx, bing and their crowd a new revival for their next notch in history. sadly for womanhood.

They were pieces of shit.

can there be hope for bing ... red alert, calling humanx.


.

The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

you have it backwards bing, they were christians, jews and islamist ... the gal is a Free Spirit that despite their effort, yours and humanx lives today. stay your faith, keep trying the bible is your shield.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

the point bing the deceiver is they arrived to late the gal and all her friends died. funny how its after the fact you claim redemption, after your sins. christianity is indeed special.

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The Cathars should have perished sooner.

 

[ding]

Yes, greatest force for good. Western Civilization was built upon the foundation of Christianity.

Christianity promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness. Christianity is responsible for the creation of wonderful charities and organizations which serve the betterment of man. Christians and Christian institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.Christians and Christian institutions have been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing. Christianity gave us the concept of subsidiarity and has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility Christianity teaches accountability and responsibility. Christianity teaches that we have a choice in how we behave and that actions have consequences. Christianity inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe and helps us feel connected to one another and to nature through regular community gatherings. Christianity helps us feel less alone in the world by binding the community together. Christianity serves to ennoble the human spirit and inspires love, peace and happiness. Christianity brings order to our lives by promoting the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness and humility. Christianity brings comfort to the terminally ill and can act as a source of hope for the oppressed. Christianity teaches that we can transform ourselves. That it is possible to change for the better. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market. The Catholic Church invented the university. Western law grew out of Church canon law. The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources. Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians. Christianity gave us America. Christianity gave us incredible artwork, music and architecture. Christianity has spread democracy throughout the world. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression and rebuilt Europe and Japan after WWII. Christians put a man on the moon and ended the cold war.

Christians dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan. Christians also destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan. And the Christian god let AIDS happen. Should I go on?

Sure, and they should not have rationalized that it was a good thing. What's your point?

You'll have to take that aids thingee up with God. Make sure to give Him an earful when you do.

Point is that Christians, like everyone else, are capable of the complete range of human actions, from the good to the bad, and aren't in any special category because of the belief in an invisible superbeing.

I'm for sure going to ask god why he gives little kids, or anyone really, cancer. Is it for fun, or is he simply a douchesack.

Yep, we are all broken human beings. Some more than others. You prove that on a daily basis. Not to worry His spirit is still inside of you pruning you. Be patient. It is a work in progress.

Why does god need to prune me? He fuck up when he made me the first time?

No. your parents did.

 

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

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Oh, you mean those reprehensible Cathars. They were pieces of shit.

The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was established in 1478 by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile. It was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under Papal control. It became the most substantive of the three different manifestations of the wider Christian Inquisition along with the Roman Inquisition and Portuguese Inquisition.
Spanish Inquisition - Wikipedia

they and a few others and with humanx, bing and their crowd a new revival for their next notch in history. sadly for womanhood.

They were pieces of shit.

can there be hope for bing ... red alert, calling humanx.


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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

Reminds me of the us military's record on how women are treated. We let our boys rape women and get away with it.

Or how we didn't imprison any priests who molested kids. The Catholic Church transferred them to other parashes where they could rape again.

I'm glad you have a holy book of absolute right and wrong. Now if your Christian nation would live by those rules it'd be great.

As an atheist I don't need a holy book to tell me not to rape.

It was mainly a homosexual problem that ended back in the 80's, but don't let that get in the way of your confirmation bias of rape and pedifilia by ALL priests. I wouldn't want you to gain any objectivity on this subject and disrupt the movie playing in your head.

I'm talking about how the church reacted to rapist priests.

Your holy books of absolute right and wrong let you down. You guys do whatever makes you feel good too. If not then what is the official punishment for raping little boys? What does your holy book say we should do with the next pedophile priest?

And when will the USA, a supposedly Christian nation, start dealing with the men who rape women? What does your holy book say we should do with the next soldier who's a rapist?

Your holy book doesn't teach on these things.

Sure it should have been handled better but it was mainly homosexual affairs. Not rape. And it wasn't little boys. It was teens. But you believe whatever you want.

 

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Sure, and they should not have rationalized that it was a good thing. What's your point?

You'll have to take that aids thingee up with God. Make sure to give Him an earful when you do.

Point is that Christians, like everyone else, are capable of the complete range of human actions, from the good to the bad, and aren't in any special category because of the belief in an invisible superbeing.

I'm for sure going to ask god why he gives little kids, or anyone really, cancer. Is it for fun, or is he simply a douchesack.

Yep, we are all broken human beings. Some more than others. You prove that on a daily basis. Not to worry His spirit is still inside of you pruning you. Be patient. It is a work in progress.

This must be how god wants me to be, otherwise he would have changed me/led me down a different path.

If you say so.

Glad you agree. Good for you.

Thanks. Happy new year.

 

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they and a few others and with humanx, bing and their crowd a new revival for their next notch in history. sadly for womanhood.


can there be hope for bing ... red alert, calling humanx.


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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

you have it backwards bing, they were christians, jews and islamist ... the gal is a Free Spirit that despite their effort, yours and humanx lives today. stay your faith, keep trying the bible is your shield.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

the point bing the deceiver is they arrived to late the gal and all her friends died. funny how its after the fact you claim redemption, after your sins. christianity is indeed special.

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The Cathars should have perished sooner.

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The Cathars should have perished sooner.

2016, same book bing the deciever, tell us how you are any different ... since the 4th century its all been the same, you are the same - hating Free Spirits.

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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

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The free spirits hated women. Free spirits could take any woman they wanted. Free spirits were reprehensible people.

you have it backwards bing, they were christians, jews and islamist ... the gal is a Free Spirit that despite their effort, yours and humanx lives today. stay your faith, keep trying the bible is your shield.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

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No. They were reprehensible Cathars who got what they brought upon themselves.

the point bing the deceiver is they arrived to late the gal and all her friends died. funny how its after the fact you claim redemption, after your sins. christianity is indeed special.

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The Cathars should have perished sooner.

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The Cathars should have perished sooner.

2016, same book bing the deciever, tell us how you are any different ... since the 4th century its all been the same, you are the same - hating Free Spirits.

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Among the Cathars there were many different groups. Pope Innocent III counted as many as forty Cathar sects. In addition, there existed other sects that had many doctrinal points in common with the Cathars; among the best known were the Albigenses. They are all usually categorized as gnostic or Manichean heresies. In order to avoid unnecessary complexity, we shall describe the beliefs and notions common to all groups, without specifying the relative importance that a particular view might have in a given sect. (For a more detailed account, see 9 [Vol. I], 10, and 11.) The basic contention in all branches of the movement was the belief in the irreconcilable contradiction between the physical world, seen as the source of evil, and the spiritual world, seen as the essence of good. The so-called dualistic Cathars believed this to be caused by the existence of two Gods--one good, the other evil. It was the God of evil who had created the physical world--the earth with everything that grows upon it, the sky, the sun and the stars, and human bodies as well. The good God, on the other hand, was seen as the creator of the spiritual world, in which there is another, spiritual sky, other stars and another sun. Other Cathars, called monarchian Cathars, believed in one beneficent God, the creator of the universe, but assumed that the physical world was the creation of his eldest, fallen son--Satan or Lucifer. All the Cathars held that the mutual hostility of the realms of matter and spirit allowed for no intermingling. They therefore denied the bodily incarnation of Christ (asserting that his body was a spiritual one, which had only the appearance of physicality) and the resurrection of the flesh. They saw a reflection of their dualism in the division of the Holy Scriptures into Old and New Testaments. They identified the God of the Old Testament, the creator of the physical world, with the evil God or with Lucifer. They professed the New Testament as the teaching of the good God. The Cathars did not believe that God had created the world from nothing; they held that matter was eternal and that the world would have no end. So far as people were concerned, they considered their bodies to be the creation of the evil force. Their souls, though, did not have a single source. The souls of the majority of men, just like their bodies, were begotten by evil--such people had no hope for salvation and were doomed to perish when the entire material world returned to a state of primeval chaos. But the souls of some men had been created by the good God; these were the angels led into temptation by Lucifer and thus imprisoned in earthly bodies. As a result of changing into a series of bodies (Cathars believed in the transmigration of souls), they were destined to end up in their sect so as to receive liberation from the prison of matter. The ultimate goal and the ideal of all mankind was in principle universal suicide. This was conceived either as in the most direct sense (we shall encounter the practical realization of this .view later) or through ceasing to bear children.