If Ebola is so contagious why

[Esmeralda]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

If it's not contagious, then why are so many people in West Africa dying from it?

Who said it isn't contagious? The point of the OP is that people should stop the hysteria and panic over Ebola.

Nigeria saw 20 cases of Ebola and is about to be declared Ebola free in a few days since they have had no new cases in 6 weeks. Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak.

This bears repeating: "Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak."

Lagos has 5.195 MILLION people. Twenty (20) people in Nigeria have come down with Ebola. Eight (8) have died. There have been no new cases since September 8, 2014.

This does not equate to "so many people dying of it." Eight people out of 166.2 million people. Nigeria has a total population of 166.2 million people. Eight people have died of Ebola.

Germany, Norway and France and the UK have all treated patients who contracted the virus in West Africa. No one in those countries has contracted the disease.

The disease spreads in countries without good sanitary and medical facilities, 3rd world countries.

 

[Theowl32]

Just watch the video here, and the interview with Doctor Jane Orient.




What are her credentials? Glad you asked.

Doctor Jane Orient - Credentials

B.A. chemistry with honors, B.S. mathematics, summa cum laude, University of Arizona, Tucson, 1967
M.D. Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, New York, NY, 1974

Straight internal medicine residency, Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas Veterans Administration Hospital (Texas Southwestern) and University of Arizona Affiliated Hospitals, Tucson

Board certified, American Board of Internal Medicine, 1977

Clinical lecturer in medicine, University of Arizona College of Medicine, 1981-present

Former staff physician, Tucson Veterans Administration Medical Center, and instructor/assistant professor of medicine, University of Arizona College of Medicine, 1977-1980.

Managing editor, Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, www.jpands.org

Member: Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), Arizona Medical Association, Pima County Medical Society, American Association of Orthopedic Medicine, American College of Legal Medicine, Doctors for Disaster Preparedness, International Dose-Response Society

Read this article from CNN based on what he heads of WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION are saying.

Ebola airborne A nightmare that could happen - CNN.com

 

[Esmeralda]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

If it's not contagious, then why are so many people in West Africa dying from it?

It is not easily transmitted.
There are millions of people living in West Africa in very close quarters, especially in their cities.
A little of over 4,000 deaths is small compared to the millions who live there.
Most of the deaths is due to them being poorer countries and not having adequate care givers and hospitals that can deal with the disease.

Exactly.

 

[Theowl32]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

If it's not contagious, then why are so many people in West Africa dying from it?

Who said it isn't contagious? The point of the OP is that people should stop the hysteria and panic over Ebola.

Nigeria saw 20 cases of Ebola and is about to be declared Ebola free in a few days since they have had no new cases in 6 weeks. Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak.

This bears repeating: "Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak."

Lagos has 5.195 MILLION people. Twenty (20) people in Nigeria have come down with Ebola. Eight (8) have died. There have been no new cases since September 8, 2014.

This does not equate to "so many people dying of it." Eight people out of 166.2 million people. Nigeria has a total population of 166.2 million people. Eight people have died of Ebola.

You apparently have no clue what it means when a virus MUTATES.

The death rates have raised from 50% to over 75%. That indicates mutation.

Our safety has been compromised and I am guessing you think the 37 countries that have banned travel to and from there are just morons. I am guessing the health ministers from England and France are just morons.

Of course they are. We are the smart ones.

We have an iron wall of thermometers protecting us, and little questionnaires.

Oh, I should also remind you, this guy that came in from Liberia with the disease, LIED on ths little questionnaire. Also, since this disease has never been here before, there is no way to know how bad it will be, Anything that is being presumed by you is a PRESUMPTION. Nothing more, nothing less.

You cannot just make those types of risks with deadly infectious diseases, especially non vector diseases.

Why am I even attempting to have a sane conversation with a liberal? Why?

 

[Esmeralda]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

If it's not contagious, then why are so many people in West Africa dying from it?

Who said it isn't contagious? The point of the OP is that people should stop the hysteria and panic over Ebola.

Nigeria saw 20 cases of Ebola and is about to be declared Ebola free in a few days since they have had no new cases in 6 weeks. Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak.

This bears repeating: "Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak."

Lagos has 5.195 MILLION people. Twenty (20) people in Nigeria have come down with Ebola. Eight (8) have died. There have been no new cases since September 8, 2014.

This does not equate to "so many people dying of it." Eight people out of 166.2 million people. Nigeria has a total population of 166.2 million people. Eight people have died of Ebola.

You apparently have no clue what it means when a virus MUTATES.

The death rates have raised from 50% to over 75%. That indicates mutation.

Our safety has been compromised and I am guessing you think the 37 countries that have banned travel to and from there are just morons. I am guessing the health ministers from England and France are just morons.

Of course they are. We are the smart ones.

We have an iron wall of thermometers protecting us, and little questionnaires.

Oh, I should also remind you, this guy that came in from Liberia with the disease, LIED on ths little questionnaire. Also, since this disease has never been here before, there is no way to know how bad it will be, Anything that is being presumed by you is a PRESUMPTION. Nothing more, nothing less.

You cannot just make those types of risks with deadly infectious diseases, especially non vector diseases.

Why am I even attempting to have a sane conversation with a liberal? Why?

You are hysterical.

 

[Theowl32]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

If it's not contagious, then why are so many people in West Africa dying from it?

Who said it isn't contagious? The point of the OP is that people should stop the hysteria and panic over Ebola.

Nigeria saw 20 cases of Ebola and is about to be declared Ebola free in a few days since they have had no new cases in 6 weeks. Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak.

This bears repeating: "Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak."

Lagos has 5.195 MILLION people. Twenty (20) people in Nigeria have come down with Ebola. Eight (8) have died. There have been no new cases since September 8, 2014.

This does not equate to "so many people dying of it." Eight people out of 166.2 million people. Nigeria has a total population of 166.2 million people. Eight people have died of Ebola.

You apparently have no clue what it means when a virus MUTATES.

The death rates have raised from 50% to over 75%. That indicates mutation.

Our safety has been compromised and I am guessing you think the 37 countries that have banned travel to and from there are just morons. I am guessing the health ministers from England and France are just morons.

Of course they are. We are the smart ones.

We have an iron wall of thermometers protecting us, and little questionnaires.

Oh, I should also remind you, this guy that came in from Liberia with the disease, LIED on ths little questionnaire. Also, since this disease has never been here before, there is no way to know how bad it will be, Anything that is being presumed by you is a PRESUMPTION. Nothing more, nothing less.

You cannot just make those types of risks with deadly infectious diseases, especially non vector diseases.

Why am I even attempting to have a sane conversation with a liberal? Why?

You are hysterical.

You are not worth a bag of shit. On ignore you ignorant moron.

You did not even attempt to address anything I said. You just simply call all of those countries and health ministers along with this Doctor with her credentials hysterical.

The fucking disease stays dormant for 21 days, and I am still trying to figure out what good thermometers do to protect us, given that it stays dormant for 21 days.

A fucking bad joke, is what this is.

I should also point out that virtually everything this CDC puppet has said along with Obama about this has been totally wrong. From the unlikelihood of it getting here, to our hospitals are equipped to handle it. How can all of the hospitals be equipped for something that has never been here.

You go ahead and keep trusting the government that has been wrong, and has lied to us about everything. You go ahead with your pathetic little smirks like the arrogant liberal bitch you are.

You have no debate skills. You are nothing but pure ignorance and puppet for the democrats pushing their fucking socialist agenda, even at the expense of our safety.

Fuck you, you miserable, double talking, hypocritical, giggling hyena.

 

[PredFan]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

I wonder why they dress in those suits. Has it been 21 days? You are a fucking moron.

You aren't making any sense here. Are the family wearing the suits? How come it didn't take 21 days for the two nurses to show symptoms?

 

[Esmeralda]

If it's not contagious, then why are so many people in West Africa dying from it?

Who said it isn't contagious? The point of the OP is that people should stop the hysteria and panic over Ebola.

Nigeria saw 20 cases of Ebola and is about to be declared Ebola free in a few days since they have had no new cases in 6 weeks. Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak.

This bears repeating: "Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak."

Lagos has 5.195 MILLION people. Twenty (20) people in Nigeria have come down with Ebola. Eight (8) have died. There have been no new cases since September 8, 2014.

This does not equate to "so many people dying of it." Eight people out of 166.2 million people. Nigeria has a total population of 166.2 million people. Eight people have died of Ebola.

You apparently have no clue what it means when a virus MUTATES.

The death rates have raised from 50% to over 75%. That indicates mutation.

Our safety has been compromised and I am guessing you think the 37 countries that have banned travel to and from there are just morons. I am guessing the health ministers from England and France are just morons.

Of course they are. We are the smart ones.

We have an iron wall of thermometers protecting us, and little questionnaires.

Oh, I should also remind you, this guy that came in from Liberia with the disease, LIED on ths little questionnaire. Also, since this disease has never been here before, there is no way to know how bad it will be, Anything that is being presumed by you is a PRESUMPTION. Nothing more, nothing less.

You cannot just make those types of risks with deadly infectious diseases, especially non vector diseases.

Why am I even attempting to have a sane conversation with a liberal? Why?

You are hysterical.

You are not worth a bag of shit. On ignore you ignorant moron.

You did not even attempt to address anything I said. You just simply call all of those countries and health ministers along with this Doctor with her credentials hysterical.

The fucking disease stays dormant for 21 days, and I am still trying to figure out what good thermometers do to protect us, given that it stays dormant for 21 days.

A fucking bad joke, is what this is.

I should also point out that virtually everything this CDC puppet has said along with Obama about this has been totally wrong. From the unlikelihood of it getting here, to our hospitals are equipped to handle it. How can all of the hospitals be equipped for something that has never been here.

You go ahead and keep trusting the government that has been wrong, and has lied to us about everything. You go ahead with your pathetic little smirks like the arrogant liberal bitch you are.

You have no debate skills. You are nothing but pure ignorance and puppet for the democrats pushing their fucking socialist agenda, even at the expense of our safety.

Fuck you, you miserable, double talking, hypocritical, giggling hyena.

Very hysterical you are. Yep.

 

[Theowl32]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

I wonder why they dress in those suits. Has it been 21 days? You are a fucking moron.

You aren't making any sense here. Are the family wearing the suits? How come it didn't take 21 days for the two nurses to show symptoms?

Pred, you cannot make presumptions about this disease. It is that dangerous. It is continuously mutating, and this CDC (behind this political hack president) has made claims, most of which have been proven wrong.

I am shocked at you that you take on this disposition. I am really disappointed about the fact you are being thanked and patted on your back by the board morons.

Consider that. You really think all of those other countries are stupid? You really do not think erring on the side of caution is prudent with this?

Do you realize the danger of that? Do you know how a contagion works?

You cannot see that this American hating sack of socialist shit is playing politics and playing Russian roulette with the citizens?

Like I said pred, I am shocked at you. Again, consider who is agreeing with you. The board socialists.

 

[PredFan]

If it's not contagious, then why are so many people in West Africa dying from it?

Who said it isn't contagious? The point of the OP is that people should stop the hysteria and panic over Ebola.

Nigeria saw 20 cases of Ebola and is about to be declared Ebola free in a few days since they have had no new cases in 6 weeks. Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak.

This bears repeating: "Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak."

Lagos has 5.195 MILLION people. Twenty (20) people in Nigeria have come down with Ebola. Eight (8) have died. There have been no new cases since September 8, 2014.

This does not equate to "so many people dying of it." Eight people out of 166.2 million people. Nigeria has a total population of 166.2 million people. Eight people have died of Ebola.

You apparently have no clue what it means when a virus MUTATES.

The death rates have raised from 50% to over 75%. That indicates mutation.

Our safety has been compromised and I am guessing you think the 37 countries that have banned travel to and from there are just morons. I am guessing the health ministers from England and France are just morons.

Of course they are. We are the smart ones.

We have an iron wall of thermometers protecting us, and little questionnaires.

Oh, I should also remind you, this guy that came in from Liberia with the disease, LIED on ths little questionnaire. Also, since this disease has never been here before, there is no way to know how bad it will be, Anything that is being presumed by you is a PRESUMPTION. Nothing more, nothing less.

You cannot just make those types of risks with deadly infectious diseases, especially non vector diseases.

Why am I even attempting to have a sane conversation with a liberal? Why?

You are hysterical.

You are not worth a bag of shit. On ignore you ignorant moron.

You did not even attempt to address anything I said. You just simply call all of those countries and health ministers along with this Doctor with her credentials hysterical.

The fucking disease stays dormant for 21 days, and I am still trying to figure out what good thermometers do to protect us, given that it stays dormant for 21 days.

A fucking bad joke, is what this is.

I should also point out that virtually everything this CDC puppet has said along with Obama about this has been totally wrong. From the unlikelihood of it getting here, to our hospitals are equipped to handle it. How can all of the hospitals be equipped for something that has never been here.

You go ahead and keep trusting the government that has been wrong, and has lied to us about everything. You go ahead with your pathetic little smirks like the arrogant liberal bitch you are.

You have no debate skills. You are nothing but pure ignorance and puppet for the democrats pushing their fucking socialist agenda, even at the expense of our safety.

Fuck you, you miserable, double talking, hypocritical, giggling hyena.

The disease CAN BE dormant for 21 days but it rarely is. How come the nurses who have it showed symptoms in only 3 days?

The CDC has made some mistakes for sure but not in everything. I notice that you accept the CDC's opinion that it stays dormant for 21 days.

Despite what you have heard, our hospitals ARE equipped to handle it. The reason we are equipped to handle a disease that never was here before is because it's a virus, and we are equipped to handle viruses.

Very few people are more conservative than I am and I do not trust the government at all. However, I am in medicine myself and have been for 32 years. I have protected my self from all manner of diseases. Many of them more virulent and contagious than Ebola. I know when I'm being bull shitted about medical things and when I'm not. 90% of the bull shit is coming from places other than the CDC.

 

[PredFan]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

I wonder why they dress in those suits. Has it been 21 days? You are a fucking moron.

You aren't making any sense here. Are the family wearing the suits? How come it didn't take 21 days for the two nurses to show symptoms?

Pred, you cannot make presumptions about this disease. It is that dangerous. It is continuously mutating, and this CDC (behind this political hack president) has made claims, most of which have been proven wrong.

I am shocked at you that you take on this disposition. I am really disappointed about the fact you are being thanked and patted on your back by the board morons.

Consider that. You really think all of those other countries are stupid? You really do not think erring on the side of caution is prudent with this?

Do you realize the danger of that? Do you know how a contagion works?

You cannot see that this American hating sack of socialist shit is playing politics and playing Russian roulette with the citizens?

Like I said pred, I am shocked at you. Again, consider who is agreeing with you. The board socialists.

The only thing the Obama has said that has been wrong us that stopping flights will make it worse. That is outrageously stupid and typical Obama. I don't know of anything else that he said that was wrong. Perhaps you can suggest something else.

I am making no assumptions. I am stating facts.

Well, tbh, I'm surprised that the board morons agree with me.

What other countries? You mean the ones that have banned travel? I agree with them. You seem to be under the impression that I'm against travel bans. This is not so. No where did I mention them. That isn't even the topic of this thread.

 

[Theowl32]

Who said it isn't contagious? The point of the OP is that people should stop the hysteria and panic over Ebola.

Nigeria saw 20 cases of Ebola and is about to be declared Ebola free in a few days since they have had no new cases in 6 weeks. Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak.

This bears repeating: "Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak."

Lagos has 5.195 MILLION people. Twenty (20) people in Nigeria have come down with Ebola. Eight (8) have died. There have been no new cases since September 8, 2014.

This does not equate to "so many people dying of it." Eight people out of 166.2 million people. Nigeria has a total population of 166.2 million people. Eight people have died of Ebola.

You apparently have no clue what it means when a virus MUTATES.

The death rates have raised from 50% to over 75%. That indicates mutation.

Our safety has been compromised and I am guessing you think the 37 countries that have banned travel to and from there are just morons. I am guessing the health ministers from England and France are just morons.

Of course they are. We are the smart ones.

We have an iron wall of thermometers protecting us, and little questionnaires.

Oh, I should also remind you, this guy that came in from Liberia with the disease, LIED on ths little questionnaire. Also, since this disease has never been here before, there is no way to know how bad it will be, Anything that is being presumed by you is a PRESUMPTION. Nothing more, nothing less.

You cannot just make those types of risks with deadly infectious diseases, especially non vector diseases.

Why am I even attempting to have a sane conversation with a liberal? Why?

You are hysterical.

You are not worth a bag of shit. On ignore you ignorant moron.

You did not even attempt to address anything I said. You just simply call all of those countries and health ministers along with this Doctor with her credentials hysterical.

The fucking disease stays dormant for 21 days, and I am still trying to figure out what good thermometers do to protect us, given that it stays dormant for 21 days.

A fucking bad joke, is what this is.

I should also point out that virtually everything this CDC puppet has said along with Obama about this has been totally wrong. From the unlikelihood of it getting here, to our hospitals are equipped to handle it. How can all of the hospitals be equipped for something that has never been here.

You go ahead and keep trusting the government that has been wrong, and has lied to us about everything. You go ahead with your pathetic little smirks like the arrogant liberal bitch you are.

You have no debate skills. You are nothing but pure ignorance and puppet for the democrats pushing their fucking socialist agenda, even at the expense of our safety.

Fuck you, you miserable, double talking, hypocritical, giggling hyena.

The disease CAN BE dormant for 21 days but it rarely is. How come the nurses who have it showed symptoms in only 3 days?

The CDC has made some mistakes for sure but not in everything. I notice that you accept the CDC's opinion that it stays dormant for 21 days.

Despite what you have heard, our hospitals ARE equipped to handle it. The reason we are equipped to handle a disease that never was here before is because it's a virus, and we are equipped to handle viruses.

Very few people are more conservative than I am and I do not trust the government at all. However, I am in medicine myself and have been for 32 years. I have protected my self from all manner of diseases. Many of them more virulent and contagious than Ebola. I know when I'm being bull shitted about medical things and when I'm not. 90% of the bull shit is coming from places other than the CDC.

There are only FOUR hospitals in this country that are adequately equipped. Even if this disease is moderately contagious (and it is more than that) we need to enact travel BANS from that region.

You are really just dismissing the notion that it could be airborne regardless of what the head of the World Health Organization has said?

You are really going to dismiss the fact that the CDC (the puppet of this president and you know the president is a committed socialist) has been UTTERLY WRONG about most of his claims?

You do not think erring on the side of caution is imperative here?

Do you realize how many infectious diseases that have been eradicated here, are here again as a result of the massive number of kids flooding across the border in organized busloads all for political expediency?

You are in the medical field, do you know that this "mystery virus" (the left wing media keeps calling it a mystery and you do not need to wonder why) Enterovirus D68 has long been matched to the Honduras flu and this disease coincides with the mass influx of busloads of unaccompanied children?

To say nothing of a potential outbreak here of Ebola which is mutating according to all of the health experts that are over there.

You shock me here.

 

[Theowl32]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

I wonder why they dress in those suits. Has it been 21 days? You are a fucking moron.

You aren't making any sense here. Are the family wearing the suits? How come it didn't take 21 days for the two nurses to show symptoms?

Pred, you cannot make presumptions about this disease. It is that dangerous. It is continuously mutating, and this CDC (behind this political hack president) has made claims, most of which have been proven wrong.

I am shocked at you that you take on this disposition. I am really disappointed about the fact you are being thanked and patted on your back by the board morons.

Consider that. You really think all of those other countries are stupid? You really do not think erring on the side of caution is prudent with this?

Do you realize the danger of that? Do you know how a contagion works?

You cannot see that this American hating sack of socialist shit is playing politics and playing Russian roulette with the citizens?

Like I said pred, I am shocked at you. Again, consider who is agreeing with you. The board socialists.

The only thing the Obama has said that has been wrong us that stopping flights will make it worse. That is outrageously stupid and typical Obama. I don't know of anything else that he said that was wrong. Perhaps you can suggest something else.

I am making no assumptions. I am stating facts.

Well, tbh, I'm surprised that the board morons agree with me.

What other countries? You mean the ones that have banned travel? I agree with them. You seem to be under the impression that I'm against travel bans. This is not so. No where did I mention them. That isn't even the topic of this thread.

I would say the topic of this thread being about how contagious it is, and discussing the travel bans is pretty directly related.

Also, the fact that an ignorant moron like Jilian or Esmeralda would agree with you or thank you ought to give you pause.

Sit back, and think about that, just for five minutes....

Please, just think about that for a moment.

 

[Wildman]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

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are you fucking serious ????

are all liberfools this fucking stupid ?




YES !!

 

[PredFan]

Just watch the video here, and the interview with Doctor Jane Orient.




What are her credentials? Glad you asked.

Doctor Jane Orient - Credentials

B.A. chemistry with honors, B.S. mathematics, summa cum laude, University of Arizona, Tucson, 1967
M.D. Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, New York, NY, 1974

Straight internal medicine residency, Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas Veterans Administration Hospital (Texas Southwestern) and University of Arizona Affiliated Hospitals, Tucson

Board certified, American Board of Internal Medicine, 1977

Clinical lecturer in medicine, University of Arizona College of Medicine, 1981-present

Former staff physician, Tucson Veterans Administration Medical Center, and instructor/assistant professor of medicine, University of Arizona College of Medicine, 1977-1980.

Managing editor, Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, www.jpands.org

Member: Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), Arizona Medical Association, Pima County Medical Society, American Association of Orthopedic Medicine, American College of Legal Medicine, Doctors for Disaster Preparedness, International Dose-Response Society

Read this article from CNN based on what he heads of WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION are saying.

Ebola airborne A nightmare that could happen - CNN.com

Notice she doesn't say it IS happening. Anyone who knows viruses, knows how fast and radically they can mutate. Just because they can, doesn't mean they have. There is absolutely no indication that the virus has become airborne yet. In fact all indications are that it is anything but.

 

[Wildman]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

I wonder why they dress in those suits. Has it been 21 days? You are a fucking moron.

You aren't making any sense here. Are the family wearing the suits? How come it didn't take 21 days for the two nurses to show symptoms?

Pred, you cannot make presumptions about this disease. It is that dangerous. It is continuously mutating, and this CDC (behind this political hack president) has made claims, most of which have been proven wrong.

I am shocked at you that you take on this disposition. I am really disappointed about the fact you are being thanked and patted on your back by the board morons.

Consider that. You really think all of those other countries are stupid? You really do not think erring on the side of caution is prudent with this?

Do you realize the danger of that? Do you know how a contagion works?

You cannot see that this American hating sack of socialist shit is playing politics and playing Russian roulette with the citizens?

Like I said pred, I am shocked at you. Again, consider who is agreeing with you. The board socialists.

The only thing the Obama has said that has been wrong us that stopping flights will make it worse. That is outrageously stupid and typical Obama. I don't know of anything else that he said that was wrong. Perhaps you can suggest something else.

I am making no assumptions. I am stating facts.

Well, tbh, I'm surprised that the board morons agree with me.

What other countries? You mean the ones that have banned travel? I agree with them. You seem to be under the impression that I'm against travel bans. This is not so. No where did I mention them. That isn't even the topic of this thread.

I would say the topic of this thread being about how contagious it is, and discussing the travel bans is pretty directly related.

Also, the fact that an ignorant moron like Jilian or Esmeralda would agree with you or thank you ought to give you pause.

Sit back, and think about that, just for five minutes....

Please, just think about that for a moment.

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liberscum are totally incapable og THINKING, they are only capable of FEEEEEEL ! and FEEEEEELINGS

 

[Theowl32]

Just watch the video here, and the interview with Doctor Jane Orient.




What are her credentials? Glad you asked.

Doctor Jane Orient - Credentials

B.A. chemistry with honors, B.S. mathematics, summa cum laude, University of Arizona, Tucson, 1967
M.D. Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, New York, NY, 1974

Straight internal medicine residency, Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas Veterans Administration Hospital (Texas Southwestern) and University of Arizona Affiliated Hospitals, Tucson

Board certified, American Board of Internal Medicine, 1977

Clinical lecturer in medicine, University of Arizona College of Medicine, 1981-present

Former staff physician, Tucson Veterans Administration Medical Center, and instructor/assistant professor of medicine, University of Arizona College of Medicine, 1977-1980.

Managing editor, Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, www.jpands.org

Member: Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), Arizona Medical Association, Pima County Medical Society, American Association of Orthopedic Medicine, American College of Legal Medicine, Doctors for Disaster Preparedness, International Dose-Response Society

Read this article from CNN based on what he heads of WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION are saying.

Ebola airborne A nightmare that could happen - CNN.com

Notice she doesn't say it IS happening. Anyone who knows viruses, knows how fast and radically they can mutate. Just because they can, doesn't mean they have. There is absolutely no indication that the virus has become airborne yet. In fact all indications are that it is anything but.

The point is PRED, is we cannot afford to wait around in case it DOES happen. Er on the side of CAUTION Pred.

Do you understand the danger?

Did you take the 5 minutes I asked you to take to consider who is thanking you in this thread?

Just review the danger. This is a disease that had NEVER EVER been on this soil. It is mutating. There are only FOUR hospitals that are truly equipped to handle this, and that makes sense. You think most hospitals really outfitted their facilities to handle something that we never had here?

You are in the medical field, do you understand all hospitals consider COST whenever they do anything. Hence, the reason why MOST hospitals would not adequately prepare their facilities. They would have needed to spend MILLIONS to prepare for something that had never been here. Hence, the reason why there are only FOUR.

Pred, I am shocked. Sitting here shocked.

 

[Rotagilla]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

I wonder why they dress in those suits. Has it been 21 days? You are a fucking moron.

You aren't making any sense here. Are the family wearing the suits? How come it didn't take 21 days for the two nurses to show symptoms?

Pred, you cannot make presumptions about this disease. It is that dangerous. It is continuously mutating, and this CDC (behind this political hack president) has made claims, most of which have been proven wrong.

I am shocked at you that you take on this disposition. I am really disappointed about the fact you are being thanked and patted on your back by the board morons.

Consider that. You really think all of those other countries are stupid? You really do not think erring on the side of caution is prudent with this?

Do you realize the danger of that? Do you know how a contagion works?

You cannot see that this American hating sack of socialist shit is playing politics and playing Russian roulette with the citizens?

Like I said pred, I am shocked at you. Again, consider who is agreeing with you. The board socialists.

predator is dishonest...she denies what epidemiologists and virologists whose career is studying and treating ebola have said and cautions they have given about the disease...they are all wrong because she is in the "healthcare industry" and therefore knows WAY more about ebola than them.
Her agenda is propping up and defending obama.

 

[PredFan]

This bears repeating: "Lagos, the 5th most populated city on Earth with far less infrastructure and less sanitary conditions than those found in the US, managed not to have a widespread outbreak."

Lagos has 5.195 MILLION people. Twenty (20) people in Nigeria have come down with Ebola. Eight (8) have died. There have been no new cases since September 8, 2014.

This does not equate to "so many people dying of it." Eight people out of 166.2 million people. Nigeria has a total population of 166.2 million people. Eight people have died of Ebola.

You apparently have no clue what it means when a virus MUTATES.

The death rates have raised from 50% to over 75%. That indicates mutation.

Our safety has been compromised and I am guessing you think the 37 countries that have banned travel to and from there are just morons. I am guessing the health ministers from England and France are just morons.

Of course they are. We are the smart ones.

We have an iron wall of thermometers protecting us, and little questionnaires.

Oh, I should also remind you, this guy that came in from Liberia with the disease, LIED on ths little questionnaire. Also, since this disease has never been here before, there is no way to know how bad it will be, Anything that is being presumed by you is a PRESUMPTION. Nothing more, nothing less.

You cannot just make those types of risks with deadly infectious diseases, especially non vector diseases.

Why am I even attempting to have a sane conversation with a liberal? Why?

You are hysterical.

You are not worth a bag of shit. On ignore you ignorant moron.

You did not even attempt to address anything I said. You just simply call all of those countries and health ministers along with this Doctor with her credentials hysterical.

The fucking disease stays dormant for 21 days, and I am still trying to figure out what good thermometers do to protect us, given that it stays dormant for 21 days.

A fucking bad joke, is what this is.

I should also point out that virtually everything this CDC puppet has said along with Obama about this has been totally wrong. From the unlikelihood of it getting here, to our hospitals are equipped to handle it. How can all of the hospitals be equipped for something that has never been here.

You go ahead and keep trusting the government that has been wrong, and has lied to us about everything. You go ahead with your pathetic little smirks like the arrogant liberal bitch you are.

You have no debate skills. You are nothing but pure ignorance and puppet for the democrats pushing their fucking socialist agenda, even at the expense of our safety.

Fuck you, you miserable, double talking, hypocritical, giggling hyena.

The disease CAN BE dormant for 21 days but it rarely is. How come the nurses who have it showed symptoms in only 3 days?

The CDC has made some mistakes for sure but not in everything. I notice that you accept the CDC's opinion that it stays dormant for 21 days.

Despite what you have heard, our hospitals ARE equipped to handle it. The reason we are equipped to handle a disease that never was here before is because it's a virus, and we are equipped to handle viruses.

Very few people are more conservative than I am and I do not trust the government at all. However, I am in medicine myself and have been for 32 years. I have protected my self from all manner of diseases. Many of them more virulent and contagious than Ebola. I know when I'm being bull shitted about medical things and when I'm not. 90% of the bull shit is coming from places other than the CDC.

There are only FOUR hospitals in this country that are adequately equipped. Even if this disease is moderately contagious (and it is more than that) we need to enact travel BANS from that region.

You are really just dismissing the notion that it could be airborne regardless of what the head of the World Health Organization has said?

You are really going to dismiss the fact that the CDC (the puppet of this president and you know the president is a committed socialist) has been UTTERLY WRONG about most of his claims?

You do not think erring on the side of caution is imperative here?

Do you realize how many infectious diseases that have been eradicated here, are here again as a result of the massive number of kids flooding across the border in organized busloads all for political expediency?

You are in the medical field, do you know that this "mystery virus" (the left wing media keeps calling it a mystery and you do not need to wonder why) Enterovirus D68 has long been matched to the Honduras flu and this disease coincides with the mass influx of busloads of unaccompanied children?

To say nothing of a potential outbreak here of Ebola which is mutating according to all of the health experts that are over there.

You shock me here.

Every single hospital in this country is equipped to handle Ebola if a patient enters it's hospital with it. Only 4 are capable of handling Ebola patients and treating them long term. There is a difference. If I was working the ER, which I do rotate through, and a patient came in who was known to have the Ebola virus, I could take care of him, get him ready for transport to one of those 4 hospitals, and NOT worry about contracting the disease. I do stuff like that every single day.

I'm not dismissing the notion that it COULD BE AIRBORNE at all. I'm just pointing out that there are no indications that it is airborne at this time. In fact all evidence shows that it is not.

The CDC has been wrong about only one thing that I know of, what are the things you think they have wrong?

What does the border have to do with our conversation?

You claim that "experts" all over the world are disagreeing with the CDC, could you provide any links?

 

[Theowl32]

Have so few people in Dallas come down with it?

I wonder why they dress in those suits. Has it been 21 days? You are a fucking moron.

You aren't making any sense here. Are the family wearing the suits? How come it didn't take 21 days for the two nurses to show symptoms?

Pred, you cannot make presumptions about this disease. It is that dangerous. It is continuously mutating, and this CDC (behind this political hack president) has made claims, most of which have been proven wrong.

I am shocked at you that you take on this disposition. I am really disappointed about the fact you are being thanked and patted on your back by the board morons.

Consider that. You really think all of those other countries are stupid? You really do not think erring on the side of caution is prudent with this?

Do you realize the danger of that? Do you know how a contagion works?

You cannot see that this American hating sack of socialist shit is playing politics and playing Russian roulette with the citizens?

Like I said pred, I am shocked at you. Again, consider who is agreeing with you. The board socialists.

predator is dishonest...she denies what epidemiologists and virologists whose career is studying and treating ebola have said and cautions they have given about the disease...they are all wrong because she is in the "healthcare industry" and therefore knows WAY more about ebola than them.
Her agenda is propping up and defending obama.

That is not what pred usually does though and that has me shocked. I cannot believe we are saying we should only act IF it gets loose here.

I just, cannot believe it.

No one has ever answered me when I have asked about the thermometers what they are suppose to do. I mean really.

What is the protocol if one of these people do detect a disease? What then? Quarantine the entire airport?