I am pro gun but have expressed my questions about the need for the AR-15 in society

[pismoe]

you do a SILLY Thread Frannie .

 

[flewism]

I don't have an AR but, my SIL does. He brings it over regularly to shoot it at my range out back. I mostly shoot handguns and skeet which I have plenty of both handguns and shotguns in various configurations, but only a couple rifles.

I know it is fun to shoot when he brings it over. I don't see a need for one, but desire maybe.

 

[progressive hunter]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

except for the fact the 2nd amendment was specifically about weapons of war,,,

 

[Darkwind]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

I'll explain this to you, clearly one time. If you have enough intelligence to comprehend, you will stop with this biased and thoughtless question.

The 2nd Amendments VERY PURPOSE is to put firepower into the hands of citizens. Throughout history it is PROVEN FACT that armed societies are far less likely to end up oppressed by governments that couldn't care less about human rights such as China and North Korea.

Further, it has been PROVEN beyond any reasonable doubt that such occurrences can and do occur in modern times. Venezuela to name one.

While any shooting is a tragedy, the extremely small number of lives that "might" be saved via the incremental and never ending march of infringing regulations people such as you propose is VASTLY, OVERWHELMINGLY and DECISIVELY outweighed by the FACT that an armed society is safer than an unarmed one, to the tune of potentially hundreds of millions of lives saved, vs a handful per year.

Your primary fallacy is that you have been conditioned to believe in something history has proven wrong too many times......that governments never becomes corrupted and turn on their population. it also has JUST happened (again in China) by the way.

If you continue to be in the dark, then it is because you choose to be there, for whatever purpose or agenda.

Everything I just posted is solid, verifiable and indisputable no matter how hard you might work to say otherwise.

So the second Amendment allows all US citizens who avow their devotion to Allah to own weapons.

And you approve of this for some reason

The Second Amendment makes no mention of religion at all.

Have you read it?

 

[progressive hunter]

The AR is an extremely accurate platform. Highly modular. It is no more lethal than many guns with the same capacity and different styling.

I wouldn't presume to tell someone how to choose the way in which they defend themselves.

Actually many AR-15 style weapons are krap that blow up in the faces of the users.

LIAR!!!

 

[Frannie]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

except for the fact the 2nd amendment was specifically about weapons of war,,,

Which included one shot muskets

 

[Frannie]

The AR is an extremely accurate platform. Highly modular. It is no more lethal than many guns with the same capacity and different styling.

I wouldn't presume to tell someone how to choose the way in which they defend themselves.

Actually many AR-15 style weapons are krap that blow up in the faces of the users.

LIAR!!!

 

[Frannie]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

I'll explain this to you, clearly one time. If you have enough intelligence to comprehend, you will stop with this biased and thoughtless question.

The 2nd Amendments VERY PURPOSE is to put firepower into the hands of citizens. Throughout history it is PROVEN FACT that armed societies are far less likely to end up oppressed by governments that couldn't care less about human rights such as China and North Korea.

Further, it has been PROVEN beyond any reasonable doubt that such occurrences can and do occur in modern times. Venezuela to name one.

While any shooting is a tragedy, the extremely small number of lives that "might" be saved via the incremental and never ending march of infringing regulations people such as you propose is VASTLY, OVERWHELMINGLY and DECISIVELY outweighed by the FACT that an armed society is safer than an unarmed one, to the tune of potentially hundreds of millions of lives saved, vs a handful per year.

Your primary fallacy is that you have been conditioned to believe in something history has proven wrong too many times......that governments never becomes corrupted and turn on their population. it also has JUST happened (again in China) by the way.

If you continue to be in the dark, then it is because you choose to be there, for whatever purpose or agenda.

Everything I just posted is solid, verifiable and indisputable no matter how hard you might work to say otherwise.

So the second Amendment allows all US citizens who avow their devotion to Allah to own weapons.

And you approve of this for some reason

The Second Amendment makes no mention of religion at all.

Have you read it?

Yea it says that the government has no right to restrict your weapons, that said cartoons are better reading

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I'm also for gun ownership, but it's already not an anything you want situation, there are plenty of weapons we're not allowed to own. And I'm ok with that. You seem to be ok with that as well.

You're officially a liar. Better luck next time.

What am I lying about?

An AR-15 IS a gun. You are against the ownership of AR-15's by LAW ABIDING citizens.

Therefore, you are not fully FOR gun ownership. Just limited ownership as you feel "necessary", which is NOT the intent of the 2nd Amendment.

 

[pismoe]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

except for the fact the 2nd amendment was specifically about weapons of war,,,

Which included one shot muskets

--------------------------------------------- and still includes one shot muskets and Rifles . shotguns , Deer Rifles and other Weapons of WAR Frannie ,

 

[progressive hunter]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

except for the fact the 2nd amendment was specifically about weapons of war,,,

Which included one shot muskets

the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

and being pro gun is not the same as being pro 2nd A

 

[Frannie]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

except for the fact the 2nd amendment was specifically about weapons of war,,,

Which included one shot muskets

--------------------------------------------- and still includes one shot muskets and Rifles Frannie ,

Take a musket to war, keep us informed...………………..

Yawn

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm also for gun ownership, but it's already not an anything you want situation, there are plenty of weapons we're not allowed to own. And I'm ok with that. You seem to be ok with that as well.

You're officially a liar. Better luck next time.

What am I lying about?

An AR-15 IS a gun. You are against the ownership of AR-15's by LAW ABIDING citizens.

Therefore, you are not fully FOR gun ownership. Just limited ownership as you feel "necessary", which is NOT the intent of the 2nd Amendment.

the 2nd doesnt say law abiding citizens,,,

 

[Frannie]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

except for the fact the 2nd amendment was specifically about weapons of war,,,

Which included one shot muskets

the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

and being pro gun is not the same as being pro 2nd A

It mentions guns as guns are included in arms.

Try again little girl

 

[toobfreak]

the fact is that there are far more accurate weapons and more dangerous as well for home users

as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense.

You heard it first from the crackpot "pro-gunner:" The AR-15 isn't accurate enough for home defense (though its military counterpart is good enough to use in combat), yet the shotgun, the most inaccurate of all weapons which just sprays a blast of shot out hoping one or more will hit its target is better for home defense! Yeah, the shotgun really is a great defense tool but it really comes down to personal choice and preference, not someone else making that decision FOR you.
So, you don't even NEED an AR-15 in society! And if you don't need that, you certainly don't need AK-47s and a hundred other carbine and assault style variants! The very weapons which if it ever came down to civil collapse with no power, food or water and it was every man for himself, or a military action by the government, the very thing the Founders sought to give the people the power to resist, these would be your FIRST choice of weapons.

Kinda funny, though involved in less than 1% of all gun crimes, these are the ones everyone keeps trying to go after. Hmm.

And you heard it all here first, from your friendly pro-gun, pro-UFO, pro-relativistic Bigfoot black hole denying Lake Champlain loving person, FRANNIE, shooter-extraordinaire.

 

[Frannie]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

except for the fact the 2nd amendment was specifically about weapons of war,,,

Which included one shot muskets

the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

and being pro gun is not the same as being pro 2nd A

Their is no second amendment, it ended long ago as the government restricts all the best arms for itself rendering you useless in their wake

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Which included one shot muskets

 

[progressive hunter]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

except for the fact the 2nd amendment was specifically about weapons of war,,,

Which included one shot muskets

the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

and being pro gun is not the same as being pro 2nd A

It mentions guns as guns are included in arms.

Try again little girl

it is about being equally armed as the government that could oppress you


try again you dumb ****,

 

[progressive hunter]

I have said that this gun is a watered down version of a military weapon that has no place in society as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense. However since I now know that Hollywood is hunting me, all I can say is lock and load, everything...…..hollow points, exploding rounds and laser targeting preferred
The Hunt - IMDb

except for the fact the 2nd amendment was specifically about weapons of war,,,

Which included one shot muskets

the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

and being pro gun is not the same as being pro 2nd A

Their is no second amendment, it ended long ago as the government restricts all the best arms for itself rendering you useless in their wake

I've seen no repeal of the 2nd A

just because you sheep have given up doesnt mean I have,,,

 

[Frannie]

the fact is that there are far more accurate weapons and more dangerous as well for home users

as there are far better hunting rifles and the shotgun is typically better for home defense.

You heard it first from the crackpot "pro-gunner:" The AR-15 isn't accurate enough for home defense (though its military counterpart is good enough to use in combat), yet the shotgun, the most inaccurate of all weapons which just sprays a blast of shot out hoping one or more will hit its target is better for home defense!
So, you don't even NEED an AR-15 in society! And if you don't need that, you certainly don't need AK-47s and a hundred other carbine and assault style variants! The very weapons which if it ever came down to civil collapse with no power, food or water and it was every man for himself, or a military action by the government, the very thing the Founders sought to give the people the power to resist, these would be your FIRST choice of weapons.

And you heard it all here first, from your friendly pro-gun, pro-UFO, pro-relativistic Bigfoot black hole denying Lake Champlain loving person, FRANNIE, shooter-extraordinaire.

The military does not use semi auto pea shooters like the semi ar15 when in combat