Human Caused Global Warming

[jc456]

But there is no evidence. As in zero. Zilch. Not a bit. Never has been. The political persecution of Dr. Mann and other climate scientists is unprecedented in American history. The persecution of scientists by the Lysenkoists under Stalin is the historical parallel.

Skook, what a about you? When you're not lying about what we believe, can you take the time out to reject your party's open Stalinism? Probably not. I've never encountered a denier who will. Authoritarianism is just too deeply engrained in them.

Question, did Mann take government money?

 

[SSDD]

SSDD, _you_ are personally pushing the Stalinism, and not some random denier professor. You, SSDD, are a proud Stalinist, demanding political prison for scientists who contradict the dogma of TheParty. All the deniers here support that. We don't even have to list examples of your politicians calling for it, which would be easy, because you're doing it here personally.

In contrast, not a single rational person here is pushing imprisonment for deniers. You keep lying outright by saying we do, but that's what Stalinists do. TheParty tells its apparatchiks to lie about their enemies, the better to demonize them and create excuses to send them to the camps.

The two sides are polar opposites. All of the deniers here support Stalinist tactics, while none of the rational people are. You'll keep trying to deflect by yammering about a random nobody professor, but it won't work. I'll just keep returning to the fact that you, SSDD, are a gulag-pushing Stalinist.

Any denier can easily demonstrate that they reject Stalinist tactics. They simply need to criticize TheParty for their attempts to have Dr. Mann and other scientists sent to prison. I keep asking, but so far not a single denier has been willing to renounce their Stalinist tactics. Their devotion to TheParty seems to vastly outweigh their devotion to liberty.

You are such a f'ing idiot. Stalin was a socialist.....like you. Big government. I, on the other hand recognize that the larger government gets, the more poorly it operates. You are the stalinist.

As to who is pushing for imprisonment....sure....but look at crick...he thinks it would be more efficient to just off skeptics....and mann....who can know whether or not he needs to go to jail till he releases all that data he has been hiding....if it turns out that the hockey stick is the fraud most skeptics think it is, and is methods were shabby to the point of incompetence, don't you think he should answer for it considering all of the money that has been wasted because of the hockey stick?

By the way, his results have been duplicated and that bit of reconstruction was achieved by employing some highly questionable techniques.

 

[SSDD]

SSDD, _you_ are personally pushing the Stalinism, and not some random denier professor. You, SSDD, are a proud Stalinist, demanding political prison for scientists who contradict the dogma of TheParty. All the deniers here support that. We don't even have to list examples of your politicians calling for it, which would be easy, because you're doing it here personally.

In contrast, not a single rational person here is pushing imprisonment for deniers. You keep lying outright by saying we do, but that's what Stalinists do. TheParty tells its apparatchiks to lie about their enemies, the better to demonize them and create excuses to send them to the camps.

The two sides are polar opposites. All of the deniers here support Stalinist tactics, while none of the rational people are. You'll keep trying to deflect by yammering about a random nobody professor, but it won't work. I'll just keep returning to the fact that you, SSDD, are a gulag-pushing Stalinist.

Any denier can easily demonstrate that they reject Stalinist tactics. They simply need to criticize TheParty for their attempts to have Dr. Mann and other scientists sent to prison. I keep asking, but so far not a single denier has been willing to renounce their Stalinist tactics. Their devotion to TheParty seems to vastly outweigh their devotion to liberty.

I think you're wrong. Oh, sorry, I know you're wrong. Nice try.

Idiots can't differentiate between big government types such as themselves and small government types such as conservatives....anyone who attempts to compare a conservative to communist, socialist, stalinist, maoist, etc is a complete moron who doesn't know the first thing about political philosophy.

 

[SSDD]

I think you're wrong. Oh, sorry, I know you're wrong. Nice try.

jc, do you support or condemn your party's attempts to jail Dr. Mann and other climate scientists?

Actually, us skeptics support taking him to trial...looking at his data and having him answer questions under oath...you and yours on the other hand favor summary imprisonment and execution.

 

[SSDD]

But there is no evidence. As in zero. Zilch. Not a bit. Never has been. The political persecution of Dr. Mann and other climate scientists is unprecedented in American history. The persecution of scientists by the Lysenkoists under Stalin is the historical parallel.

Skook, what a about you? When you're not lying about what we believe, can you take the time out to reject your party's open Stalinism? Probably not. I've never encountered a denier who will. Authoritarianism is just too deeply engrained in them.

The fact that more than a million dollars has been spent hiding his research is certainly probable cause for further investigation. that research, after all was paid for by public money....the public owns it.

 

[SSDD]

But there is no evidence. As in zero. Zilch. Not a bit. Never has been. The political persecution of Dr. Mann and other climate scientists is unprecedented in American history. The persecution of scientists by the Lysenkoists under Stalin is the historical parallel.

Skook, what a about you? When you're not lying about what we believe, can you take the time out to reject your party's open Stalinism? Probably not. I've never encountered a denier who will. Authoritarianism is just too deeply engrained in them.

Question, did Mann take government money?

You don't really expect an honest answer to that one do you?

 

[jc456]

But there is no evidence. As in zero. Zilch. Not a bit. Never has been. The political persecution of Dr. Mann and other climate scientists is unprecedented in American history. The persecution of scientists by the Lysenkoists under Stalin is the historical parallel.

Skook, what a about you? When you're not lying about what we believe, can you take the time out to reject your party's open Stalinism? Probably not. I've never encountered a denier who will. Authoritarianism is just too deeply engrained in them.

Question, did Mann take government money?

You don't really expect an honest answer to that one do you?

nope, but I had to ask it as I walk down the road he/she was going. BTW, do they ever answer any question? Ever?

 

[SSDD]

But there is no evidence. As in zero. Zilch. Not a bit. Never has been. The political persecution of Dr. Mann and other climate scientists is unprecedented in American history. The persecution of scientists by the Lysenkoists under Stalin is the historical parallel.

Skook, what a about you? When you're not lying about what we believe, can you take the time out to reject your party's open Stalinism? Probably not. I've never encountered a denier who will. Authoritarianism is just too deeply engrained in them.

Question, did Mann take government money?

You don't really expect an honest answer to that one do you?

nope, but I had to ask it as I walk down the road he/she was going. BTW, do they ever answer any question? Ever?

All sorts of answers....very little in the way of honesty. Honesty isn't their thing. You can't hold their point of view and be honest at the same time.....incompatable.

 

[jc456]

But there is no evidence. As in zero. Zilch. Not a bit. Never has been. The political persecution of Dr. Mann and other climate scientists is unprecedented in American history. The persecution of scientists by the Lysenkoists under Stalin is the historical parallel.

Skook, what a about you? When you're not lying about what we believe, can you take the time out to reject your party's open Stalinism? Probably not. I've never encountered a denier who will. Authoritarianism is just too deeply engrained in them.

Question, did Mann take government money?

You don't really expect an honest answer to that one do you?

nope, but I had to ask it as I walk down the road he/she was going. BTW, do they ever answer any question? Ever?

All sorts of answers....very little in the way of honesty. Honesty isn't their thing. You can't hold their point of view and be honest at the same time.....incompatable.

They deflect with their answers. There is an agenda to the answers they give. They believe they are so smart that they don't have to answer honestly. You know, the science is settled. Then one has to ask them, if that is so, why are they here on an environmental thread posting insults. Why should they care, the science has spoken.

Their issue is, as I see it, that the earth hasn't cooperated with their settled science and they are worried.

 

[SSDD]

But there is no evidence. As in zero. Zilch. Not a bit. Never has been. The political persecution of Dr. Mann and other climate scientists is unprecedented in American history. The persecution of scientists by the Lysenkoists under Stalin is the historical parallel.

Skook, what a about you? When you're not lying about what we believe, can you take the time out to reject your party's open Stalinism? Probably not. I've never encountered a denier who will. Authoritarianism is just too deeply engrained in them.

Question, did Mann take government money?

You don't really expect an honest answer to that one do you?

nope, but I had to ask it as I walk down the road he/she was going. BTW, do they ever answer any question? Ever?

All sorts of answers....very little in the way of honesty. Honesty isn't their thing. You can't hold their point of view and be honest at the same time.....incompatable.

They deflect with their answers. There is an agenda to the answers they give. They believe they are so smart that they don't have to answer honestly. You know, the science is settled. Then one has to ask them, if that is so, why are they here on an environmental thread posting insults. Why should they care, the science has spoken.

Their issue is, as I see it, that the earth hasn't cooperated with their settled science and they are worried.

They want disaster.....they hope for disaster....they believe it is what humans deserve. They hate themselves and seem to be able to identify with others who also hate themselves....they hate us conservative types with a special sort of vitriol because we don't hate ourselves. If disaster isn't coming, then they were wrong and for self haters like themselves, being wrong about it all isn't a viable option. If they are wrong about this, what else might they have been wrong about....as if the failure of liberal thinking hasn't already left an indelible mark on history.

 

[mamooth]

Actually, us skeptics support taking him to trial...looking at his data and having him answer questions under oath.

And with that, Stalin looks up at his star pupil SSDD, and smiles in approval. jc is a less advanced pupil, but ghost-Stalin has high hopes for him as well.

you and yours on the other hand favor summary imprisonment and execution.

If you couldn't lie, you couldn't talk. That's the biggest reason why the whole planet holds your cult in such well-deserved contempt.

You Stalinists won't even try to defend your own actions, being even you know how your actions are indefensible. That's why you keep trying to deflect by lying about the rational side. None of us here have threatened you with death or imprisonment. Nobody of any note in the world has done so. You two are merely inept cult liars, and you suck at hiding it. Given you'll respond to anything by openly lying about what we said, there's really no point in engaging you, other than to mock you for being such disgusting human beings.

 

[jc456]

Actually, us skeptics support taking him to trial...looking at his data and having him answer questions under oath.

And with that, Stalin looks up at his star pupil SSDD, and smiles in approval. jc is a less advanced pupil, but ghost-Stalin has high hopes for him as well.

you and yours on the other hand favor summary imprisonment and execution.

If you couldn't lie, you couldn't talk. That's the biggest reason why the whole planet holds your cult in such well-deserved contempt.

You Stalinists won't even try to defend your own actions, being even you know how your actions are indefensible. That's why you keep trying to deflect by lying about the rational side. None of us here have threatened you with death or imprisonment. Nobody of any note in the world has done so. You two are merely inept cult liars, and you suck at hiding it. Given you'll respond to anything by openly lying about what we said, there's really no point in engaging you, other than to mock you for being such disgusting human beings.

hahahahahahaahahaha LoSiNg
how low can you go?

BTW, why again are you here?

I have an answer. I'll let you speak first.

 

[SSDD]

Actually, us skeptics support taking him to trial...looking at his data and having him answer questions under oath.

And with that, Stalin looks up at his star pupil SSDD, and smiles in approval. jc is a less advanced pupil, but ghost-Stalin has high hopes for him as well.

you and yours on the other hand favor summary imprisonment and execution.

If you couldn't lie, you couldn't talk. That's the biggest reason why the whole planet holds your cult in such well-deserved contempt.


Sorry hairball, but you are living proof that stupid just can't be fixed....if you knew the first thing about stalinism, you would know that conservatives don't fit the mould...that is all you and yours....big government types. And do you really believe that mann should be allowed to withhold data paid for by the public...and why do you believe so much money has been spent to keep it out of the public eye?

I am afraid it is you and yours who are held in contempt....exactly because you are such a liar...I guess crick had the decency to not attempt to equate the suggestions of voluntary indefinite breath holding to the outright public calls for imprisonment and death for skeptics...you on the other hand, clearly don't have any decency at all...bitterness will do that to you I guess. Everything you say is a lie and you don't even try to be subtle about it now...you have, over time simply become a bald faced liar. Congratulations...you have fulfilled your potential.

 

[SSDD]

Actually, us skeptics support taking him to trial...looking at his data and having him answer questions under oath.

And with that, Stalin looks up at his star pupil SSDD, and smiles in approval. jc is a less advanced pupil, but ghost-Stalin has high hopes for him as well.

you and yours on the other hand favor summary imprisonment and execution.

If you couldn't lie, you couldn't talk. That's the biggest reason why the whole planet holds your cult in such well-deserved contempt.

You Stalinists won't even try to defend your own actions, being even you know how your actions are indefensible. That's why you keep trying to deflect by lying about the rational side. None of us here have threatened you with death or imprisonment. Nobody of any note in the world has done so. You two are merely inept cult liars, and you suck at hiding it. Given you'll respond to anything by openly lying about what we said, there's really no point in engaging you, other than to mock you for being such disgusting human beings.

hahahahahahaahahaha LoSiNg
how low can you go?

BTW, why again are you here?

I have an answer. I'll let you speak first.

Hairball is here because she feels compelled to spread the lie of AGW.

 

[jc456]

Actually, us skeptics support taking him to trial...looking at his data and having him answer questions under oath.

And with that, Stalin looks up at his star pupil SSDD, and smiles in approval. jc is a less advanced pupil, but ghost-Stalin has high hopes for him as well.

you and yours on the other hand favor summary imprisonment and execution.

If you couldn't lie, you couldn't talk. That's the biggest reason why the whole planet holds your cult in such well-deserved contempt.

You Stalinists won't even try to defend your own actions, being even you know how your actions are indefensible. That's why you keep trying to deflect by lying about the rational side. None of us here have threatened you with death or imprisonment. Nobody of any note in the world has done so. You two are merely inept cult liars, and you suck at hiding it. Given you'll respond to anything by openly lying about what we said, there's really no point in engaging you, other than to mock you for being such disgusting human beings.

hahahahahahaahahaha LoSiNg
how low can you go?

BTW, why again are you here?

I have an answer. I'll let you speak first.

Hairball is here because she feels compelled to spread the lie of AGW.

to who? She has to be smart enough to know she ain't changing our minds. So what else is there for her to accomplish accept look like a nutjob. DOH!!!!!!

 

[westwall]

Actually, us skeptics support taking him to trial...looking at his data and having him answer questions under oath.

And with that, Stalin looks up at his star pupil SSDD, and smiles in approval. jc is a less advanced pupil, but ghost-Stalin has high hopes for him as well.

you and yours on the other hand favor summary imprisonment and execution.

If you couldn't lie, you couldn't talk. That's the biggest reason why the whole planet holds your cult in such well-deserved contempt.

You Stalinists won't even try to defend your own actions, being even you know how your actions are indefensible. That's why you keep trying to deflect by lying about the rational side. None of us here have threatened you with death or imprisonment. Nobody of any note in the world has done so. You two are merely inept cult liars, and you suck at hiding it. Given you'll respond to anything by openly lying about what we said, there's really no point in engaging you, other than to mock you for being such disgusting human beings.

And yet your latest hero sports a avi of Hitler because he admires him so! You guys are just too funny. It's your policy to kill those you don't like, and those who have no use. When one thinks Stalinism, one immediately thinks mammy, saigon, olfraud, crick, blunder, and old crazy ed.

 

[SSDD]

to who? She has to be smart enough to know she ain't changing our minds. So what else is there for her to accomplish accept look like a nutjob. DOH!!!!!!

You would think that wouldn't you? You would be wrong. She isn't trying to change our minds...she is just here to vent her bitterness on people who she especially hates because unlike here, we don't hate ourselves and in turn feel like mankind deserves to be punished. Mamooth is a few cats past the point of becoming a crazy cat lady.

 

[Crick]

It's your policy to kill those you don't like, and those who have no use. When one thinks Stalinism, one immediately thinks mammy, saigon, olfraud, crick, blunder, and old crazy ed.

Why don't you put together a collection of quotes from the people you just accused. Something like the collection below of deniers doing precisely that of which you've accused us.

In order to reduce your own personal creation of greenhouse gasses, hold your breath forever.

I wonder how many of these warmer idiots will suicide out of sheer despair when the hoax finally comes tumbling down?

It never ends well for Death worshipong Cults, CO2 is their Jonesville and they will glady drink the KoolAid

So, it looks like you can kill yourself out of shame now. But that's one emotion you're incapable of, isn't it?

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

I just made one and you're right---it's too expensive to let people with breathing problems live.

Lets see now, if your charts and conclusions are correct, we need to kill all the chinese and indians. Should we nuke them? no, too much fall out. Poison their water? stop shipping food to them? how about the booming populations in indonesia and south america, how do we eliminate them?

Nice part of cults is that they tend to mass suicide.

In this instance, if they are right, their lemmingesque checking out would do an immense bit toward ending the warming they fear most. Provided they all just took dirt naps instead of being roasted and emitting all those nasty pollutants......

Oh Please! Oh God! That would be so fucking awesome! They don't even have to die, just get off the Internet

Really, the absolute best way for humans to limit their emissions is to minimize the number of humans. I most heartily welcome the voluntary participation of those who believe that humans are a major factor in "global warming", or "climate change" (whatever the current buzzword is) in the "minimize humans" green program..go ahead, do us all a favor, your personal contribution to decreasing human damage to the planet will be welcomed.

This is why I say the Warmers are a sick, death-worshiping Cult

Well all you AGW church members if you believe that CO2 drives climate you might want to show belief by not breathing anymore.

Reduce air pollution. Stop breathing. We promise to miss you. But we will enjoy the cleaner air.

I have issued this challenge before to all the adherents of the AGW cult before:
If you are so very concerned about the damage being done to the Earth by human infestation, please lead the way. You are more than welcome to contribute, up close and personal, to improving the situation. I'll be watching the obits to see whether you all are convinced enough to put your money where your mouth is.

The solution to AGW issue is simple, and very inexpensive. Since CO2 is a normally occurring byproduct of human respiration, I challenge every proponent of AGW, every worshiper of the whole AGW myth, to cease all respiration, and ensure that anyone in your family joins you in you effort to diminish humanity's contribution to CO2 emissions.
C'mon, step up and show us how committed you are to saving the environment.

"If you want to save the Planet, Stop breathing dammit"

So why wouldn't you stop the damage you do by killing yourself?

 

[jc456]

It's your policy to kill those you don't like, and those who have no use. When one thinks Stalinism, one immediately thinks mammy, saigon, olfraud, crick, blunder, and old crazy ed.

Why don't you put together a collection of quotes from the people you just accused. Something like the collection below of deniers doing precisely what you've accused us of doing.

In order to reduce your own personal creation of greenhouse gasses, hold your breath forever.

I wonder how many of these warmer idiots will suicide out of sheer despair when the hoax finally comes tumbling down?

It never ends well for Death worshipong Cults, CO2 is their Jonesville and they will glady drink the KoolAid

So, it looks like you can kill yourself out of shame now. But that's one emotion you're incapable of, isn't it?

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

I just made one and you're right---it's too expensive to let people with breathing problems live.

Lets see now, if your charts and conclusions are correct, we need to kill all the chinese and indians. Should we nuke them? no, too much fall out. Poison their water? stop shipping food to them? how about the booming populations in indonesia and south america, how do we eliminate them?

Nice part of cults is that they tend to mass suicide.

In this instance, if they are right, their lemmingesque checking out would do an immense bit toward ending the warming they fear most. Provided they all just took dirt naps instead of being roasted and emitting all those nasty pollutants......

Oh Please! Oh God! That would be so fucking awesome! They don't even have to die, just get off the Internet

Really, the absolute best way for humans to limit their emissions is to minimize the number of humans. I most heartily welcome the voluntary participation of those who believe that humans are a major factor in "global warming", or "climate change" (whatever the current buzzword is) in the "minimize humans" green program..go ahead, do us all a favor, your personal contribution to decreasing human damage to the planet will be welcomed.

This is why I say the Warmers are a sick, death-worshiping Cult

Well all you AGW church members if you believe that CO2 drives climate you might want to show belief by not breathing anymore.

Reduce air pollution. Stop breathing. We promise to miss you. But we will enjoy the cleaner air.

I have issued this challenge before to all the adherents of the AGW cult before:
If you are so very concerned about the damage being done to the Earth by human infestation, please lead the way. You are more than welcome to contribute, up close and personal, to improving the situation. I'll be watching the obits to see whether you all are convinced enough to put your money where your mouth is.

The solution to AGW issue is simple, and very inexpensive. Since CO2 is a normally occurring byproduct of human respiration, I challenge every proponent of AGW, every worshiper of the whole AGW myth, to cease all respiration, and ensure that anyone in your family joins you in you effort to diminish humanity's contribution to CO2 emissions.
C'mon, step up and show us how committed you are to saving the environment.

"If you want to save the Planet, Stop breathing dammit"

So why wouldn't you stop the damage you do by killing yourself?

Nice collection. Except one thing. I don't see anyone in that list discussing doing away with anyone. Please, if you believe there is a phrase of someone stating to do away with someone point it out. Those quotes don't. All of that is request for volunteers who believe their lives are in danger and a suggested way to avoid that anguish. So, not sure the point.

 

[cultsmasher]

It's your policy to kill those you don't like, and those who have no use. When one thinks Stalinism, one immediately thinks mammy, saigon, olfraud, crick, blunder, and old crazy ed.

Why don't you put together a collection of quotes from the people you just accused. Something like the collection below of deniers doing precisely what you've accused us of doing.

In order to reduce your own personal creation of greenhouse gasses, hold your breath forever.

I wonder how many of these warmer idiots will suicide out of sheer despair when the hoax finally comes tumbling down?

It never ends well for Death worshipong Cults, CO2 is their Jonesville and they will glady drink the KoolAid

So, it looks like you can kill yourself out of shame now. But that's one emotion you're incapable of, isn't it?

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

I just made one and you're right---it's too expensive to let people with breathing problems live.

Lets see now, if your charts and conclusions are correct, we need to kill all the chinese and indians. Should we nuke them? no, too much fall out. Poison their water? stop shipping food to them? how about the booming populations in indonesia and south america, how do we eliminate them?

Nice part of cults is that they tend to mass suicide.

In this instance, if they are right, their lemmingesque checking out would do an immense bit toward ending the warming they fear most. Provided they all just took dirt naps instead of being roasted and emitting all those nasty pollutants......

Oh Please! Oh God! That would be so fucking awesome! They don't even have to die, just get off the Internet

Really, the absolute best way for humans to limit their emissions is to minimize the number of humans. I most heartily welcome the voluntary participation of those who believe that humans are a major factor in "global warming", or "climate change" (whatever the current buzzword is) in the "minimize humans" green program..go ahead, do us all a favor, your personal contribution to decreasing human damage to the planet will be welcomed.

This is why I say the Warmers are a sick, death-worshiping Cult

Well all you AGW church members if you believe that CO2 drives climate you might want to show belief by not breathing anymore.

Reduce air pollution. Stop breathing. We promise to miss you. But we will enjoy the cleaner air.

I have issued this challenge before to all the adherents of the AGW cult before:
If you are so very concerned about the damage being done to the Earth by human infestation, please lead the way. You are more than welcome to contribute, up close and personal, to improving the situation. I'll be watching the obits to see whether you all are convinced enough to put your money where your mouth is.

The solution to AGW issue is simple, and very inexpensive. Since CO2 is a normally occurring byproduct of human respiration, I challenge every proponent of AGW, every worshiper of the whole AGW myth, to cease all respiration, and ensure that anyone in your family joins you in you effort to diminish humanity's contribution to CO2 emissions.
C'mon, step up and show us how committed you are to saving the environment.

"If you want to save the Planet, Stop breathing dammit"

So why wouldn't you stop the damage you do by killing yourself?

Nice collection. Except one thing. I don't see anyone in that list discussing doing away with anyone. Please, if you believe there is a phrase of someone stating to do away with someone point it out. Those quotes don't. All of that is request for volunteers who believe their lives are in danger and a suggested way to avoid that anguish. So, not sure the point.

jc456,
You have all gotten off the track. The point isn't who should do what to who. The point is that human caused global warming is real. I think it was SSDD who came up with the best denier argument against it by talking about how much CO2 the earth naturally produces. As weak as that argument was.

However you want to look at it, the ammount of CO2 humans are responsable for IS having an impact. Maybe it's because the CO2 humans are responsable for comes out in a more concentrated and localized form.