How Much Should A Teacher Get Paid?

[The T]

1. Abolish the public education system

2. Make teaching more practical (less tests, more teaching people how to work).

3. Teachers exposed to the market gradually become like any other profession, some work for free (as a form of charity) and others charge through the nose, everyone knows who is a 'bad' and 'good' teacher.

4. Teachers choose their students, parents/students choose their teachers.

^All result in better working conditions, wages and of course better education. But no one will ever see that, thus ever rising education bills, unhappy overworked teachers, and parents having to deal with bad education.

Yea, teach people how to dig ditches. Fuck science and technology.

WEAK deany. YOU need to get another gig...

 

[The T]

Well of course! The interest here isn't about how teachers feel, it is about cutting their paychecks & benefits & destroying the Unions. You have the best people, you just don't want to treat them like they are the best. So they are in snow and dissatisfied.

Like I say, you retards won't be happy until you have the return of the company store.

Keeping the LIE alive I see? How many here have you called 'SCABS' already? Put them on your attack list?

You being a scab, has nothing to do with "cutting their paychecks & benefits & destroying the Unions." No lie, comes from your own rightwing NewsMax dude. Call them liars if you doubt it. I don't write it, I report it, Scab. LOL!

I get where I am honestly...not by using Union THUGGERY...to be a mediocre whining asswipe.

 

[The T]

Merit of accomplishment Shithead...MERIT...

 

[shintao]

Teachers (along with everyone else) should be whatever the market will pay them.

I teach people how to solve a very parrticular problem. I get paid a lot of money to do this because I am exceptionally talented at teaching this particular skill, there are very few people that can do what I do, and I am very good at finding people who need to learn how this problem solved.

If I was teaching kids how to recite the Alphabet I would make far less money. Teaching is going to go virtual anyway, kids won't be going to school- they'll stay home and turn on the internet.

I taught for a while in nuclear power using mock ups, and timing workers in their tasks, in order to reduce their rad exposure when doing the actual task in containment.

Oh, you mean parents won't have teachers to baby sit their chillins? What will they do? Think of the lost wages. I am surprised T skimmed right over this.

I agree with you, students can be taught at home 24/7 on 200 channels and the internet, and take finals at a building similar to a DMV in their local area. They may have to travel to do particular lab work type classes.

 

[JFK_USA]

Below the poverty line with other welfare recipients.......oh, and they have to say thank you and kiss the school boards' rings when receiving their pay checks.

Yeah!!!

And they should worship Ronald Reagan. Build a statue at every school and have daily worships to the GOD RONALD REAGAN.

ALL HAIL REAGAN!!!

 

[Ragnar]

And should there be a cap on how much that can get paid?

How much is a teacher worth in your opinion?

Considering the amount of money Republicans think teachers are giving to Democratic candidates, they must make a hundred thousand a week.

Democrats just don't understand the new populism | Timothy P. Carney | Politics | Washington Examiner

... unions are "Big Money." Of the top 10 sources of political contributions since 1989, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, five are unions. Of the top 20 sources of 2010 campaign funds, 10 are unions.

And the notion that Big Labor is cancelling out Big Business -- well, that's a Big Lie, too. The 10 industries that contributed the most during the 2010 elections -- from Wall Street to government unions -- all gave more to Democrats than to Republicans.

The top donor to House and Senate campaigns in the 2010 elections -- the Service Employees International Union -- is otherwise known as "Obama's Union." The company that spent the most on lobbying in 2010 -- General Electric -- is also known as "the for-profit arm of the Obama Administration."

In the retrograde liberal way of thinking, though, populism is about class warfare, in which the wealthy and corporations are the "special interests" arrayed against the poor working man. But in today's Wisconsin skirmish, the "working man" is implausibly the Wisconsin Education Association, the third-largest political donor in the state last election cycle.

And they are playing with "house money" to boot. Actually that is why unions can spend on par with corporations. Unions don't have shareholders to turn a profit for and since they are using taxpayer dollars, they can demand the State run at a deficit indefinitely. Corporations can't do that. Well, unless your GM that is. (wonder why?)

 

[shintao]

There is no issue with your family here. You are talking about trying to extort people for more money.

There shouldnt be a minimum wage. That's part of what's artificially increasing the cost of labor in this nation.

What makes you think people who go into teaching to help students would be dissatisfied with their station in life because of lower salaries?


Maybe the problem is there are too many people becoming teachers because they want cushy jobs where they feel they dont have to do much rather than to help people. If that's the case, you take away the cushy parts of the job, and those that want ease will find other jobs while those that actually want to help people, will help people.


If that happens then you will indeed have the best people working the job.

Well of course! The interest here isn't about how teachers feel, it is about cutting their paychecks & benefits & destroying the Unions. You have the best people, you just don't want to treat them like they are the best. So they are in snow and dissatisfied.

Like I say, you retards won't be happy until you have the return of the company store.

So, show us where they are proposing cutting their paychecks & benefits.

You're making the claim......Prove it........The balls in your court.

Until you do, you're lying.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

Coming back and raging, sure as hell doesn't make your point or prove a damn thing.

Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

STFU! LMAO!!

 

[Avatar4321]

Yea, teach people how to dig ditches. Fuck science and technology.

Keep trying to force the progressive cancer down the throats of people and thats the only jobs that will be left.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And should there be a cap on how much that can get paid?

How much is a teacher worth in your opinion?

Not one dime more than an American soldier makes. Not one dime more.

Now we're getting somewhere

Republicans are finally willing to put a price on what teachers are worth.

I just went to an Army website, and the salary for a private first class is between 20 and 23k a year. Which is what, about ten dollars an hour?


So the official rightwing position is that teachers should be paid ten dollars an hour? Well done!

Interesting how you ignored every other post on the subject, chose the one that let you vent your spleen, and decided it was the "official right-wing position". Are you always such a disingenuous, puerile dickwad, or did you practice special just for us?

WILLOW posted that opinion. As much as I do like Willow, she speaks officially only for Willow. None of us have elected her our official spokesperson, and certainly the right-wing in general has not done so, and we DEFINITELY have not give a second-rate jizz stain like YOU the power to appoint a spokesperson for us. So if you wish to answer Willow's post, then keep in mind that you are answering WILLOW when you do so. If you wish to address someone else on the right-wing, you're just going to have to man up, read one of that person's posts, and then respond to it.

 

[shintao]

Translation: "I have no other recourse but to attack and not post any fact...but hey I'll bet that Wicked Jester and the T are just SCABS anyway...YEAH! That's the ticket...!"

Notice, I didn't I didn't refer to you as a Liar, because you don't seem to have a need to lie. But being you, I might be pissed if a LIAR was calling me a "Brother." LMAO!! I think I would put some distance between yourself and him. IMO!

Notice that I don't give a tinker's damn?

Hmmm, I thought you had some honor and character going for you. I guess you are just Scab charACTOR. LMAO!!

 

[percysunshine]

So shintao, what do you think about my idea to give teachers a 1% royalty on the future earnings of their pupils?

Should work out pretty well over time. They would be like insurance agents.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And should there be a cap on how much that can get paid?

How much is a teacher worth in your opinion?

Considering the amount of money Republicans think teachers are giving to Democratic candidates, they must make a hundred thousand a week.

Teachers? No. Teachers' unions? We don't think they're giving that much. We KNOW they're giving that much, since political donations are a matter of public record.

 

[shintao]

Keeping the LIE alive I see? How many here have you called 'SCABS' already? Put them on your attack list?

You being a scab, has nothing to do with "cutting their paychecks & benefits & destroying the Unions." No lie, comes from your own rightwing NewsMax dude. Call them liars if you doubt it. I don't write it, I report it, Scab. LOL!

Official translation:

I've completely lost this round. I lied, and cannot prove otherwise.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired Now i'm forced to name call and accuse.......Newsmax - articlename of these days, I hope the Alinsky tactics will work. I might want to try them on those who may believe the BS.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired Because T and WJ are too smart to fall for said bullshit, and have made me look like a lying fool.......That sucks!Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

End of official translation.

TRANSLATION: Let me suck your massive cock Shintao, and please stop saying I am a fucking LIAR!!! LMAO!!

Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

 

[The T]

You being a scab, has nothing to do with "cutting their paychecks & benefits & destroying the Unions." No lie, comes from your own rightwing NewsMax dude. Call them liars if you doubt it. I don't write it, I report it, Scab. LOL!

Official translation:

I've completely lost this round. I lied, and cannot prove otherwise.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired Now i'm forced to name call and accuse.......Newsmax - articlename of these days, I hope the Alinsky tactics will work. I might want to try them on those who may believe the BS.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired Because T and WJ are too smart to fall for said bullshit, and have made me look like a lying fool.......That sucks!Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

End of official translation.

TRANSLATION: Let me suck your massive cock Shintao, and please stop saying I am a fucking LIAR!!! LMAO!!

Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

Let the pink slips commence.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Well of course! The interest here isn't about how teachers feel, it is about cutting their paychecks & benefits & destroying the Unions. You have the best people, you just don't want to treat them like they are the best. So they are in snow and dissatisfied.

Like I say, you retards won't be happy until you have the return of the company store.

So, show us where they are proposing cutting their paychecks & benefits.

You're making the claim......Prove it........The balls in your court.

Until you do, you're lying.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

Coming back and raging, sure as hell doesn't make your point or prove a damn thing.

Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

STFU! LMAO!!

Fail.....Show us where they are taking away their pay and benefits.

 

[shintao]

Keeping the LIE alive I see? How many here have you called 'SCABS' already? Put them on your attack list?

You being a scab, has nothing to do with "cutting their paychecks & benefits & destroying the Unions." No lie, comes from your own rightwing NewsMax dude. Call them liars if you doubt it. I don't write it, I report it, Scab. LOL!

I get where I am honestly...not by using Union THUGGERY...to be a mediocre whining asswipe.

But you are still Scab, who like a parasite, got there off the backs of Union workers.

 

[rdean]

At least we know what the right thinks about education and teachers. Or did we already know that?

 

[Wicked Jester]

You being a scab, has nothing to do with "cutting their paychecks & benefits & destroying the Unions." No lie, comes from your own rightwing NewsMax dude. Call them liars if you doubt it. I don't write it, I report it, Scab. LOL!

Official translation:

I've completely lost this round. I lied, and cannot prove otherwise.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired Now i'm forced to name call and accuse.......Newsmax - articlename of these days, I hope the Alinsky tactics will work. I might want to try them on those who may believe the BS.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired Because T and WJ are too smart to fall for said bullshit, and have made me look like a lying fool.......That sucks!Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

End of official translation.

TRANSLATION: Let me suck your massive cock Shintao, and please stop saying I am a fucking LIAR!!! LMAO!!

Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

Fail.....Show us where they are taking away their pay and benefits.

 

[American I Am]

How's $7.25 hr sound, for everyone. Seems to be what certain Governor's are aiming for.

I've seen "Merit" based promotions in action, and it looks something like the following.
A. Brown Noser
B. Suck Up
C. (Y) Kisser
D. After Hours Specialist

As far as I'm concerned you can take "Merit" based promotions and shove'em, unless of course I'm the BOSS, then I'm all for it.

rdean " At least we know what the right thinks about education and teachers. Or did we already know that? "

Well, we already know in Ohio that Gov Kasich thinks the Police are "idiots" his own words.

 

[The T]

Official translation:

I've completely lost this round. I lied, and cannot prove otherwise.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired Now i'm forced to name call and accuse.......Newsmax - articlename of these days, I hope the Alinsky tactics will work. I might want to try them on those who may believe the BS.Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired Because T and WJ are too smart to fall for said bullshit, and have made me look like a lying fool.......That sucks!Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

End of official translation.

TRANSLATION: Let me suck your massive cock Shintao, and please stop saying I am a fucking LIAR!!! LMAO!!

Wisconsin Teachers: Accept Cuts or Be Fired

Fail.....Show us where they are taking away their pay and benefits.

he can't. NONE of them can. They just don't want the gravy train of reward for medicrity to end...much less be responsible for their bennies as the rest of the TAXPAYERS have to be...