Governor To Cut Collective Baragaining.

[Soggy in NOLA]

Great. Get more people working for less money. Get more people into that half of the American households who pay NO federal income taxes. That'll really help.

It's a start. Then we can address getting the 40 percenters start contributing.

 

[EriktheRed]

Those mean ol' union folks just made Gov. Walker blink:

Wis. Gov. Eyeing Changes To Anti-Union Budget Bill | TPMDC

 

[EriktheRed]

Here's a good slideshow of the protesters:


Mad In Madison: Wisconsin Workers Protest Against Governor's Budget Proposals | TPM Photo Galleries

 

[Harry Dresden]

Good for him.
There is no reason that public sector workers should have collective bargaining rights or unions to begin with.

why?.....do the bosses in the Govt treat their employees better than the public sector?...are working conditions so great,are the Employees treated with so much respect that everyone is just happy to be at work?....is that why Unions should be banned in the Public Sector?.....

 

[Old Rocks]

So the bankers and financial people screw everybody over, and the GOP answer is to punish workers. Figures.

 

[EriktheRed]

So the bankers and financial people screw everybody over, and the GOP answer is to punish workers. Figures.

It's all about the guy currently sitting in the Oval Office as far as these new GOP Governors are concerned.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Great. Get more people working for less money. Get more people into that half of the American households who pay NO federal income taxes. That'll really help.

It's a start. Then we can address getting the 40 percenters start contributing.

See people, outside the dishonesty of conservative politicians you get to hear what conservatism is really about...

...make the American working class poorer, and then raise their taxes.

 

[bodecea]

I hope he's successful - and that union decertification spreads across the country.

Why? So more Americans work for less money? So even more American households need 2 spouses working outside the home to be able to afford to raise a family?

What is it with conservatives that they are so eager to see Americans working more for less money?

As Bush said, isn't it great to live in America where people can work three jobs.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Critical mass is reached when you have more takers than givers. The private sector is tired of giving to the public employee unions. It's just that simple.

Fine. When your teachers and cops and firefighters are working for peanuts, enjoy the quality of education and law enforcement and public safety you get.

The old actual service worker body shield bromide.

What about the army of bureaucrats that hide behind the people who actually perform a public service? They out number the productive ones.

Now you're trying to tell me that conservatives are not out to make teachers work for less pay, fewer benefits, and less job security??

Liar.

Tell me, once you have broken the teachers' unions, and teaching is a lower paying job, with fewer benefits, and less job security,

what incentives do you plan to use to get the best and brightest in America to become teachers?? Given that you believe the teaching profession is inadequate already. Given that you believe quality education is vital to America's future.

Who among the brightest young people will want even more to become a teacher, once you conservatives have run that profession, as a career choice, into the ground?

Feel free to ignore this question, that will be proof enough you don't have a clue.

 

[bodecea]

Why are the firement and police unions getting a pass?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I hope he's successful - and that union decertification spreads across the country.

Why? So more Americans work for less money? So even more American households need 2 spouses working outside the home to be able to afford to raise a family?

What is it with conservatives that they are so eager to see Americans working more for less money?

As Bush said, isn't it great to live in America where people can work three jobs.

Conservatives, with their phoney touting of 'family values', want to do everything in their power to make raising a family as difficult as possible,

starting with making it virtually impossible for a family to afford to have a stay at home mom,

which anyone with a brain knows is as important as ANYTHING for the wellbeing of a family.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Why? So more Americans work for less money? So even more American households need 2 spouses working outside the home to be able to afford to raise a family?

What is it with conservatives that they are so eager to see Americans working more for less money?

As Bush said, isn't it great to live in America where people can work three jobs.

Conservatives, with their phoney touting of 'family values', want to do everything in their power to make raising a family as difficult as possible,

starting with making it virtually impossible for a family to afford to have a stay at home mom,

which anyone with a brain knows is as important as ANYTHING for the wellbeing of a family.

Coming from the proponents of abortion, welfare and government intrusion in the lives of families, I really don't need family values lectures from you guys.

 

[Charles_Main]

"During a visit Tuesday to Wausau, Gov. Scott Walker defended his proposal to strip most collective bargaining rights from public employees....outline his plan to limit unions' negotiating powers.

... his eventual goal is to make Wisconsin a "right-to-work" state in which payment of union dues can't be made a condition for employment where organized labor is represented.

[Republican Scott] Suder, a 13-year member of the Assembly, described the plan as "painful to legislate" because it asks people to pay more toward their benefits while the economy still is struggling. But he said Walker's proposal is needed to address a projected $3.7 billion budget deficit.

Suder said he would consider changes raised by other state lawmakers, such as adjusting the proportion of health insurance premiums and pensions that employees would be required to pay. Under Walker's proposal, public employees would pay 12.6 percent of their health care premiums and contribute 5.6 percent of their annual salaries to pensions."No one likes to say, 'we're going to be paying more' -- if you look at the national average, I don't understand the argument as to how this is going to be more painful than losing jobs and massive layoffs," Suder said."
Gov. Scott Walker defends budget plan during Wausau visit | wausaudailyherald.com | Wausau Daily Herald
(emphasis mine)

This is going to hurt a lot of hard working folks, but the blame should be laid at the feet of the union leaders and public officials, including our President, who have shown disrespect for wokers and employers in the public sector...

It is unfortunate that needed adjustments can't be more gradual, but the pendulum swings...

Not sure it should be cut out completely. However it is pretty clear. Especially when it comes to public Sector unions, that their demands have gotten a bit out of hand. IMO. They are paid far more than Private sector counter parts, and have much better health and retirement benefits, and the tax payer pays the bill for it all.

Payroll and Benefits for Public Employees is a huge part of State Deficit problems. No matter where we turn to make cuts and get budgets in order. Someone will scream we are heartless bastards.

 

[Harry Dresden]

...make the American working class poorer, and then raise their taxes.

well that sounds like California....Squeeze money out of everything you can....but instead of taxes...call them "fees"....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Who among the brightest young people will want even more to become a teacher, once you conservatives have run that profession, as a career choice, into the ground?

Feel free to ignore this question, that will be proof enough you don't have a clue.

not ALL Conservatives feel this way....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Conservatives, with their phoney touting of 'family values', want to do everything in their power to make raising a family as difficult as possible,

starting with making it virtually impossible for a family to afford to have a stay at home mom,

which anyone with a brain knows is as important as ANYTHING for the wellbeing of a family.

so once again....ALL Conservatives feel this way?....if you want to throw a tent up over everyone go talk to Dean....he is the best at doing that.....

 

[Political Junky]

Only a fool would try to deprive working men and women of the right to join the union of their choice.
President Dwight Eisenhower (1953-1961), general and Allied Supreme Commander in World War II

 

[Political Junky]

Today in a America, unions have a secure place in our industrial life. Only a handful of reactionaries harbor the ugly thought of breaking unions and depriving working men and women of the right to join the union of their choice. I have no use for those-regardless of their political party-who hold some vain and foolish dream of spinning the clock back to the days when organized labor was huddled, almost as a helpless mass.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

[bodecea]

Today in a America, unions have a secure place in our industrial life. Only a handful of reactionaries harbor the ugly thought of breaking unions and depriving working men and women of the right to join the union of their choice. I have no use for those-regardless of their political party-who hold some vain and foolish dream of spinning the clock back to the days when organized labor was huddled, almost as a helpless mass.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Are you kidding? They'd throw Eisenhower under the bus today...after denigrating his war record.

 

[Rozman]

As long as Ed Schultz of MSNBC is having a cow over this....I am all for what they are doing.Unions in this country are out of control.